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12:00 AM
Also, drugs are already effectively legal here.
 
You are too much sensitive.
As I am - but I didn't meant to hurt your feelings.
 
user1804599
You can't hurt my feelings.
 
Nah, it will just be funny to see you rant over the ban though
 
Where do you live?
 
user1804599
I just like to tell people to get out. :P
 
12:02 AM
What ban - OMG?
 
user1804599
In the Netherlands.
 
@rightfold How can we have a problem with your sexual orientation when we don't know what it is?
If you are gay I am okay with that
 
user1804599
Hmm, interesting.
 
user1804599
I use std::shared_ptr for immutable values.
 
user1804599
However if the use count is 1 then I can mutate the values safely.
 
user1804599
12:07 AM
In some cases, not all.
 
user1804599
Which is nice for stuff like string concatenation and bigint arithmetic.
 
& if you are gay, I fully support your decision to hit on any of the guys here
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telkitty, you are one sexy cat.
 
@chmod711telkitty Does that mean you are not interest in us?
:c
 
Come over to my place and so I can give you sudo access.
 
12:20 AM
@FISOCPP He's the official lounge-doctor.
Or should I say offficial.
 
@Jefffrey I was hoping he would be interested in some of my online enemies. Why does the dirty work yourself when you can get someone else to do it for you?
 
you're terribru kitty
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@Nican but ... but ... do you give other people sudo access often?
 
sudo make_nooble_room_owner
 
I am not okay with sharing your root access with 20 other women :'(
 
12:44 AM
I'm trying to teach myself the 24 hour clock.
I think it's 8:44.
 
24 hr clock best clock
it has 0 preconditions to remove ambiguity
 
Hey @AlexM.
Where is your icon from?
 
use google m8
day by day I'm amazed how steam doesn't provide one basic functionality that I believe should exist: autoignoring all friend requests
I keep having to ignore these retarded bots and shit manually
 
@AlexM. I believe so. But I've been using the 12 hour clock ever since I'd been born.
 
@AlexM. HAy arE U on FB?
 
12:52 AM
no they just want to trade CS skins
and I don't
the moment you keep something interesting in your inventory, the whole horde of bots comes in
 
Not gonna pin that today because god where did all those pins come from
 
I voted yes but I hope you will add trading cards and achievements
 
I only vote yes on my fellow amigos who shitpost on /vg/ agdg
 
Achievements probably
We're low on artist manpower tho so dunno about cards
 
Voting yes :)
 
12:58 AM
Is that what you do for a job?
 
Cat.... is a gamedev? no wonder he hates himself
 
No, I'm a webdevops for a job
 
Nice upgrade you did there
 
isn't that Buzzwords: The Job?
I think I'm forgetting what devops is
 
@AlexM. thats probably from a hentai rolleyes
 
1:00 AM
In my case it's doing both dev and ops sometimes
Thankfully I don't have a pager
 
@LucasHenrique not far from the truth but not quite there
 
Did you use FRP?
FRP is da future
 
> Cluj, la Silicon Valley de l’Europe parismatch.com/Actu/Economie/…
in case anyone wondered how people program in my city
like that
all day long
 
Too much light
Also sitting on the ground is not healthy
 
Too much greenlight
 
1:06 AM
Oh hey another RimWorld update
 
Yeah too much light. I'll have to use a light theme, and only maniacs use that.
 
> Changes to speed up pacing: reduced building costs, start with more steel, a colonist will join reasonably early
yesss
 
I'm the first guy who turns on the light in the office :\
 
Seriously though. What technologies have you guys used?
 
I can't use a PC without ambient light
 
1:07 AM
Unity
 
@AlexM. Really? I mean I kinda hate it when my monitor starts glaring at my glasses.
 
Total dark is crap too
 
But then I just turn down the brightness.
 
It's not healthy
Ambilight is nice, but you need to put monitor against a wall
 
I really like sunny days though.
 
1:10 AM
normally I like bright lights because they're far away but in my room I use a dim light that's behind me
too weak to shine into the monitor, strong enough for my eyes to not bleed
 
Dim lights are fine.
 
2:04 AM
Hi.
 
Hey
 
I'm running out of battery.
 
Tell me
Do you read?
You will.
 
And I'm back.
 
2:23 AM
What's a good tool that turns XML comments to HTML for C#?
 
creative use of NSoup?
Anybody have experience with zmq?
I normally do the producer consumer scheduling manually with std::
 
2:39 AM
Oh Ive seen this exact question before but I cant find the dupe right now, IIRC its just VS that sucks at optimizing it. I'll post it here if I find it. — Borgleader 1 min ago
Damnit... I'm sure I've seen this exact question before, but I can't find it
its so annoying
 
@Jefffrey Funny
 
@LightningRacisinObrit really?!
happy birthday tom!
 
Older (x)art :p
 
2:48 AM
Happy birthday 🎉🎼🎶🍰
 
ta chick[en]
 
🍧🍦🍒🍑🍓
 
I can't see any of those glyphs. :(
 
OH MY GOD THIS IS HILLARIOUS
 
@chmod711telkitty ???
 
thanks :)
jesus it's even worse on Firefox via my old CentOS 5 box
why is everything so shit at UniChode?
 
"Did you hear what scientists are aaying?
"What?"
"That they are gonna only be seven planets after I destroy Uranus"

WTF
 
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A: iter_swap() versus swap() -- what's the difference?

Lightning Racis in ObritThis seems to be one of those scenarios in which the internet produces a host of conflicting information. cplusplus.com says that iter_swap is identical to swap and, by that logic, MSDN would be correct in saying that one ought to simply stick to swap. cppreference.com tells us that calling swa...

is this good or not
got some upvotes, re-read it, not sure now
@Cinch what about it
 
@LightningRacisinObrit No I'm not hitting on you sorry
 
2:57 AM
I'm drunk in the "feeling nauseous" sense rather than the "I am not myself" sense. Definitely prefer the latter.
 
couldn't agree more
 
Also 'leaf' in the yard says hey :x
 
hi
 
Thanks for the 24p donation, whoever you are. <3
I will spend it all at once.
 
3:24 AM
wtf
either a man saying his woman only exists to kiss him
or a woman saying her man only exists to kiss her
bloody sexists
 
3:59 AM
@Jeremy ...
just no
 
If inp is of type std::ifstream, then is while(inp>>temp){...} considered as a good practice? (temp is a std::string.)
 
yes
 
4:15 AM
fucking std::string
and its dumb std::initializer_list constructor
why is it even there
 
it’s more or less a vector of char :|
 
I know
I am contemplating using const char* instead
this constructor is bugging me
 
@Rapptz string_view please
 
I haven't written my own yet
but at least GCC 4.9 has it
 
That’s the one I’m using.
 
4:20 AM
I'm working on this dependency thing again
This time with versions.
Should versions be strings or integers?
 
Go with a datatype.
 
versions are complicated no?
I should just stick with good ol' SemVer
 
Given the total amount of love being the same, the more intense the love is, the shorter it is felt that way. -Telkitty's law in regard to the dynamic of love
 
Semver is a good fit for a datatype.
 
4:23 AM
I have a feeling my dependency solver thing sucks.
 
I haven't done much research into how people implement these.
I am just looking at cases where pip fails or something else fails and see if I can fix it.
 
Well a root of many cabal evils is that it doesn’t reinstall/upgrade stuff, so don’t look there (except for, you know, deciding to in fact reinstall stuff)
 
I am planning on doing upgrade.
I like upgrade.
I still don't have a name for this.
You wanna help? :D
 
4:25 AM
How about 'upster'?
 
Can version numbers be negative.
I don't think so.
 
@Rapptz It’s not just that. Consider a case where dep A depends on Top >= 1.0 and B depends on Top >=1.1 and Top 1.0 is installed. You want the solver to upgrade to Top 1.1.
 
@LucDanton That's somewhere pip fails.
I'm actually implementing this right now.
Which is why I need versions.
 
And cabal as well IIRC
 
Does it have to be a real number? How about of square root of -1?
 
4:27 AM
Well Rust seems to enforce SemVer and since this is something new I can do that too.
 
to be fair I guess it’s not just the tool’s fault, but the ecosystem/community in general. E.g. lack of semver-like convention for what breaks and what doesn’t means no tool can know when to upgrade or not :/
@Rapptz Go semver
 
jesus listen to this crowd they're going wild
can't believe you people find this shit funny
anyway
 
@LucDanton Yeah.
But now I'm thinking about tags..
man
 
What do you guys think about autism?
 
@Rapptz You don’t have to do everything at once :)
 
4:29 AM
How does rust handle pre-release tags?
 
@Rapptz pass
 
@LucDanton :(
 
@Cinch Don't make me flag you.
 
Huh?
Why?
 
He's being a shitlord.
 
4:30 AM
@Rapptz No clue. I assume it follows the spec.
 
Your question is either trolling or stupid.
 
No I'm serious
 
Either way, it is quite obvious that it is not going to go well.
 
...What?
 
4:31 AM
Mmmh are tags supposed to be ordered by the ISO date? You can always provide that as an extension I guess.
 
I'm not telling at all and its a serious question
s/telling/trolling
 
@LucDanton Tags like 1.0.0-beta or 1.0.0-rc or the more complex 1.0.0-0.3.7
 
a little teaser
this is my problem I don't even know where to start. — pashaUSA 43 mins ago
 
@Rapptz See, they’re supposed to denote unstable stuff. So I think the sensible default behaviour is to not automatically upgrade unless the user asks. That should put aside ordering considerations for a while, no?
@Rapptz Turns out I was thinking of +metadata.
Required to be ignored, too.
 
4:34 AM
yep
So I'll just parse and discard.
 
I would store it.
 
I mean internally discard.
 
i.e. not discard :)
 
I kinda don't wanna work on this myself.
I'll see how it goes I guess.
npm seems to ignore sorting rules for pre-release tags
> The purpose for this behavior is twofold. First, prerelease versions frequently are updated very quickly, and contain many breaking changes that are (by the author's design) not yet fit for public consumption. Therefore, by default, they are excluded from range matching semantics.
> Second, a user who has opted into using a prerelease version has clearly indicated the intent to use that specific set of alpha/beta/rc versions. By including a prerelease tag in the range, the user is indicating that they are aware of the risk. However, it is still not appropriate to assume that they have opted into taking a similar risk on the next set of prerelease versions.
 
@Rapptz Well, it’s more like bypassing.
You don’t need to sort if the tool won’t try to match them in the first place!
 
4:41 AM
I don't like these tags
it's only been 10 minutes and I already hate them
 
Store as a string, figure out the details later.
You don’t need to break them up/parse them if you’re not sorting them.
 
I still have to compare somehow.
 
13 mins ago, by Luc Danton
@Rapptz You don’t have to do everything at once :)
 
the entire purpose was comparison :(
the thing is comparing requires parsing
 
The purpose I had in mind was faithfulness. You don’t want to treat a 1.0.0-foo thing as a 1.0.0-bar thing, much less 1.0.0. So you have to store that somewhere.
So if the user wants 1.0.0 you have to retrieve and serve the right thing :/
You’ll need to sort when/if automatic resolution needs it. Are you there yet?
Right now dumb, stringly equality comparison should serve your needs. No need to parse for that.
makes sense?
 
4:50 AM
meh
 
What do you guys think about a game that has programming-inspired metagame/mechanics?
 
been done
 
@Rapptz where?
 
MLM
@Cinch Like Minecraft redstone?
 
@MLM No, more like servers and whatnot
I had an idea for a game where people fought over servers and became analogous to territory in other games
It would be a cyber-based universe, of course
 
5:02 AM
@LucDanton I am currently trying to fix brace init list compile errors
these are fun
 
@Rapptz Neat
But that's not what I had in mind
 
that game's pretty cool btw
 
@Rapptz It is
 
Shit, it's Ludum Dare this weekend.
 
5:24 AM
Maybe adding an email address to my public profile wasn't such a good idea after all...
 
@fredoverflow Remove it then ;)
 
lol
 
Holy smokes that is cool
 
Well, as long as it doesn't take over... this is the first mail I got to that address, ever.
 
@Rapptz Best game ever
 
5:27 AM
I'm actually a little curious why those questions are important to him.
 
@fredoverflow Oh I should send you an email
 
Why would anybody care if register will be removed in C++17?
Exam preparation or something?
 
Answer with 'fak off m8' and move on.
 
MLM
When making a template deduction factory, is there a better way to condense these "constructors" down (accept references, rvalues, const)? I feel I may be doing something wrong because of the repitition. coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/e7d08ae8b7b7e08f
Plus those constructors work on Coliru and VS but I get "overloaded ambiguous" errors on another platform
 
5:35 AM
lol TOML is not so minimal
datetime literals
shit man
 
@MLM For each arity of overload sets, only the first overload is useful. The other ones will never be used, because they cannot be called.
 
what's minimal and obvious about that?
 
I also wouldn’t bother with a foo<target>(x) flavour. The user can do foo(static_cast<target>(x)).
 
MLM
@LucDanton Really? Point(static_cast<PointGeneric<>>(Point(1.23456, 2.34567)); gives a no conversion error
Or do you mean something more like: auto foo = Point(1.23456, 2.34567); auto bar = Point(float(foo.x), float(foo.y)); ---- or --- auto foo = Point(1.23456, 2.34567); auto bar = Point(static_cast<float>(foo.x), static_cast<float>(foo.y));
 
Ooh I like this system:
> Weapons must be created using scripts and resources
 
5:44 AM
@MLM Oh, sorry. I was looking at the signature and not the implementation.
I would not provide factories taking points at all then. I would rather provide a converting constructor (as in actual constructor, not factory).
 
> Scripts are allowed to call functions from an API but can consume ammo for each instruction they execute
 
I thought you had a way of constructing a point out of one value there.
 
> At worst, a badly designed weapon can exhaust the user's resources AND damage them, making malicious weapons entirely possible
 
MLM
Sorry, I did have a similar x member only version earlier to make the demo more barebones.
 
For instance make_tuple(make_tuple(0)) constructs a tuple<tuple<int>>, not tuple<int>. It’s less confusing that way.
@MLM Oh, a word of advice regarding function templates taking e.g. points (whether it’s for constructors, factories, or just about anything). I tend to favour parameters of the form Point<X, Y> rather than T&&.
It does mean you have to write more overloads some of the time (e.g. both Point<X, Y> const& and Point<X, Y>&&), but it trades away different headaches.
The choice to make is not exactly clear cut though, it’s mostly personal preference from experience.
 
5:51 AM
Hm.
Upon writing this.
 
MLM
The whole reason for not using straight constructors is to not have to provide the template parameters. hmmm
 
It's gotten annoying.
iostreams so annoying
 
@MLM If you have to have a non-constructor conversion, at the very least give it another name than the other factory.
Mmmh or don’t. I worded that too strongly. That is how I would paint that bikeshed, in any case.
 
MLM
I am not confident at all in my deducing factory (whether to use rvalue one etc). Just leaning on another example where Rapptz helped: github.com/MadLittleMods/macchiato/blob/…
 
That’s how I write them.
 
MLM
5:57 AM
@LucDanton Regarding the comment above about only the first overload being useful. It gives plenty of "no viable conversion" errors if I don't add in the other ones. Is this a user problem instead?
 
Solving dependencies for equal version numbers is the same difficulty as just solving the names.
it was harder to get my constructor calls to work :v
 
@MLM If GCC or Clang accepts it on Coliru, it’s probably the compiler being fussy. I’d need to at least see the call sites.
@Rapptz What does 'solving the names' entail?
 
"does package of name X exist? install it"
 

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