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4:00 PM
Every Greek god was a jerk
 
@rubenvb I just enjoy the game, I never tried to usurp the devs that made it :)
 
But good job spotting its origins :p
 
@wilx Well, the God in Judaism was also a vengeful asshole.
So no need for a Devil there.
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol, yeah, I agree.
 
4:01 PM
@wilx FWIW, I think the Devil or the Beast or whatever you call it, is only introduced in Revelations.
 
In the sequel he went from "I'm gonna kill you all motherfuckers" to "I love you guys so much" 0/10 not realistic
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That is what I heard as well.
 
Getting unreasonably annoyed at all the people quoting Death on Twitter right now using ALL CAPS instead of sᴍᴀʟʟ ᴄᴀᴘs
 
@CatPlusPlus God may be human after all? :p
 
Do it properly, goddamnit
 
4:03 PM
@jalf IKR
 
God hates snakes
 
@jalf Tweet it! :D
 
Samuel L Jackson hates snakes
Therefore
 
Is there not a close reason along the lines of "this question is just asking for code"
@jalf ?
 
@CatPlusPlus It's a retcon.
 
4:04 PM
@CatPlusPlus not as much as people mentioning his hatred for snakes I'm sure
 
@wilx other religions have an 'evil' antithesis to god too. Zoroastrianism comes to mind
 
@thecoshman You've never read any Pratchett, I take it?
 
So Lounge, If god exists, what language would god program in?
 
C#
Source: me
 
@jalf I have, but only one so far... forgot which one
death was only mildly involved at the start
 
4:05 PM
Sacrilege
Go buy the rest
 
@thecoshman In the Discworld books, Death is a recurring character, and he ᴛᴀʟᴋs ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜɪs. Now that Pratchett died, lots of people think they're witty by quoting Death, but USING ALL CAPS
 
@Pris There is no God hence your question makes no sense, I say.
 
@khajvah It kept the "Dark Ages" from really setting humanity back.
 
@jalf oh, when did he die?
 
This font is missing some small caps
I am king and king is god and I program in C# therefore
 
4:06 PM
@thecoshman Well, it was announced on Twitter like 30 minutes ago
 
@thecoshman Today.
 
I wouldn't worship a god that programmed in C#, just sayin
 
@jalf Who knows small caps exist let alone how to type them
 
46 mins ago, by jalf
 
@wilx See, this is why you suck at logic.
 
4:07 PM
@jalf fuck, I'm so far behind the world.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Please point out the faulty bit of my logic in that statement.
 
@райтфолд My next language is going to be D#Clojure, a mix of D, C# and Clojure. The hash is pronounced "is" in German, so D#Clojure would be pronounced "Disclosure".
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He sort of passed on the 'responsibility' of disc world to his daughter didn't he?
 
@wilx Okay well it's still kind of weird. How can you have an opinion that relies on a phrase being used only in specifically one sense, universally, always, ever?
 
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@FredOverflow Cool!
 
4:09 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What?
 
@thecoshman I think so, in the sense that it'd be up to her what to do with it. I don't think he placed any real restrictions on what he wants to happen. Just "I trust you to do what's best"
 
user1804599
We pronounce the hash as "hekje."
 
user1804599
Which means "little fence."
 
user1804599
Because it looks like a fence.
 
@wilx The 22nd
 
4:09 PM
@jalf yeah, I thought I read that she has already sort of wrote a book, and he more or less trusts her to carry on as he would have wanted it too.
So what as the ultimate cod?
 
@Pris Apep the Serpent of Chaos from Egyptian mythology is even earlier. Or Set the Usurper, though Set was not portrayed as purely antagonistic. Killing and mutilating your brother that kinda make you evil, though.
 
@райтфолд It is similar in Czech. We say "mřížka", which means something like "iron bars screen" or such.
@CatPlusPlus :)
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow Sometimes I have trouble deciding how much indirection I need.
 
user1804599
I want to be able to add arbitrarily more indirection later but I haven't yet found any way to be able to do that!
 
@thecoshman After seeing what Frank Herbert's heirs did with Dune...I am not sure I want anybody to continue with Discworld books.
 
4:14 PM
@wilx His question is not "what language [does] god program in?", but "If god exists[sic], what language would god program in?". The two are different, and your counter-argument is only valid when applied to one of them, the former.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes trick question, he would use a programming language, he would just make the programs appear.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes He changed it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, true.
 
It was the former before
 
@CatPlusPlus Ah^2!
 
user1804599
4:15 PM
Today I learned what a general ledger is.
 
Oh, I missed that, then. Sorry.
 
user1804599
Most uninteresting.
 
lol @ history editing. :D
 
@thecoshman so he would program in binary?
 
OK. BBL. HF.
 
4:16 PM
@khajvah That's how we would understand it, sure.
 
@khajvah no, he would program in complete programs
 
Ugh Thunderbird can't remember which screen it should appear on
I need a better mail client
 
@CatPlusPlus I know right!
 
He would program in Hebrew
 
So horrible.
 
4:17 PM
Firefox had the same problem, but they managed to fix it
I thought they share the codebase but apparently not?
Or idk
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Cool. Egyptians were polytheistic though, right? In the example of Lucifer, he was a fallen agent of (the one) god. In zoroastrianism I think that their 'evil antithesis' to god was also created by god. In polytheistic religions you tend to have a bunch of gods with different traits that don't often align completely to pure good and pure evil
 
it also is riddle with papper cuts IMO... but I think that is mostly this shitty extension that is trying to make it work with exchange
 
Wasn't thunderbird discontinued?
 
Not that I'm aware of, no
SeaMonkey was
 
@Pris The fallen angel story is a modern invention and AFAIK originates in pagan sources.
 
4:18 PM
Or maybe not
 
@CatPlusPlus Thunderbird is on a significantly older version though, isn't it?
 
For some reason
So what even is available
Live Mail is Metro so fullscreen bullshit, so no thanks
 
@райтфолд Pointers?
 
Also probably doesn't support GPG
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow yeah but like
 
user1804599
4:21 PM
transforming pointers into pointers-to-pointers automatically, and adding the extra dereference where necessary automatically
 
Implicit pointers? Sounds like a wonderful idea...
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm on thunderbird too. Don't know of a better alternative
 
SeaMonkey is apparently alive and managed to share code with Thunderbird but at the same time be on a newer Gecko?
Who runs Thunderbird
Jesus christ
 
Yes, polytheistic. And you're right that they don't often have some gods that represent pure good or pure evil. But Apep was exactly that: the personification of all that is evil, as opposed to Ma'at, the personification of all that is good. Other Egyptian gods aligned themselves with one or the other. Ra, the sun god, was the highest upholder of Ma'at.
While Set helped Ra defeat Apep, he eventually came to absorb all the characteristics of Apep himself (by 'absorb' I don't mean that there is a story where he absorbs Apep's power or whatnot; the perception of Set gradually shifted to encomp
 
4:23 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You have a typo in there
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol "personification of all that is evil, as opposed to personification of all that is evil"
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, that.
 
That'd be an actually interesting religion
 
user3010322
static_cast<int>( a == b ); // guaranteed to be 1?
 
user3010322
4:24 PM
Booleans don't have to be 1 to be true, right?
 
> Thunderbird 38 due in May 2015
 
@ThePhD Yes
 
@ThePhD The result of boolean comparisons is always 1 or 0 in C.
 
@ThePhD Only if a == b, though.
 
Time to commute back home folks
See you later :)
 
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4:25 PM
@FredOverflow But the boolean defines themselves can be 0 or {not-zero}, right?
 
SeaMonkey doesn't look like much of an improvement though
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The ancient egyptian religion seemed really fly. Wish it had stuck around through the ages
 
@ThePhD Any integer other than 0 is interpreted to be "true".
 
@ThePhD It's the reverse of this that interests you.
 
Yeah they worshipped cats you can't go wrong with that
 
4:26 PM
Would be internet religion
 
It's all a dog conspiracy
 
catgirls in pyramid shaped churches
 
@Mgetz Starboard.
 
We know thanks
 
Wait.
Why isn't it on the starboard?
 
4:27 PM
Because no one starred it?
 
Ah, it's jalf's other message.
 
SHould I be embarrassed that I don't know who he is?
 
@khajvah Nah, not embarrassed.
You've missed out though.
 
@khajvah You have a whole new bibliography of books to enjoy.
 
@khajvah Who who is?
 
4:30 PM
@khajvah Yes
 
@Pris When I was a kid a read a ton about Egyptian and Greek mythology. I always thought it was really cool.
 
Terry
 
Where the fuck did all the desktop email clients go
 
Nobody uses them
 
Why does everything have to be *nix terminal UI crap or web shit
 
user3010322
4:31 PM
~Outlook~
 
@CatPlusPlus inky.com
 
it's not that, smartphones pretty much replace that kind of stuff
 
whats wrong with using a browser to get your email
 
Outlook is too expensive
 
@ThePhD Please, no
 
4:32 PM
@Mysticial fft_forward is the non-inverse, right?
 
Fuck web clients
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes correct
 
K. Stealing.
 
Also I have multiple accounts on multiple providers and I don't want to share them with anyone
 
I see that it's also with bit reversed stuff.
 
4:32 PM
@khajvah Not for people who are at a computer all the time. Having to pick up your phone to deal with emails is a big pain.
 
If it was locally installable thing with web interface I'd be fine
 
I can reuse the code from the ifft that I have.
 
But how are the companies supposed to collect your information and sell ads if you don't use their web clients?
 
@CatPlusPlus Yup. Seriously, check out Inky.
 
@caps When you get an email, it makes a sound, you know
 
4:33 PM
@khajvah Inky does? Or your phone does? If the latter, you're missing my point.
 
E-mailing from a phone is horrible.
 
fft_forward(k,array);
fft_inverse(k,array);
Will leave `array` unchanged except that it scales it up by `2^k`.
 
@caps lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The perception of a formerly "good" god changing to "evil" was often a by-product of using religion to support politics. In particular, many (most?) rulers aligned themselves with some god or other, often claiming direct descent from said god. In case of coup or conquest, the god with whom the previous ruler claimed alignment was pretty routinely re-invented as representing evil.
 
@Jefffrey ?
 
4:33 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not really
 
@Jefffrey Yes really.
 
~cloud~
 
@Mysticial Thanks.
 
@CatPlusPlus Web interface is the future man
 
Not open, not extensible, no GPG
 
4:34 PM
@Jefffrey I hope, not
 
@JerryCoffin Set was never really good, though. He killed and mutilated his brother.
I agree with you, but I don't think this was the case with Set. Unless of course there's missing history.
 
4 hours ago, by FredOverflow
> THE CHILD WILL MOVE FORWARD AND WITH SOUND
 
Set <3 /cc @райтфолд
 
"Super simple interface" is not what I want or need
I want actual functionality
 
@wilx I'd say the lesson is to not use different thread priorities :)
 
4:35 PM
Trying to figure out if cat has me plonked.
 
@JerryCoffin Many wrestlers have also gone from good to evil, e.g. 1-2-3 kid ;)
 
@CatPlusPlus Like, actually sending emails and forwarding and replying
 
@CatPlusPlus Dude, what functionality do you need from an email clinet
 
@caps I'm talking about that Inky thing
 
Razor Ramon, on the other hand, went from evil to good.
 
4:36 PM
@khajvah Uh GPG for one
Not broken search
 
@CatPlusPlus Wait, that exists?
 
@CatPlusPlus What for?
 
What sort of retarded question is that
 
The closest to that is gmail's, and it's still disappointing at times.
 
Dunno
I can dream though
 
@FredOverflow I guess I'll have to take your word for that (I don't think I've heard of "1-2-3 kid" previously).
 
@FredOverflow They probably recycled that story later at some point.
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, I don't know about that, but "Your mail provider stores your mail, and your mail never touches Inky's own servers. Inky runs on your computer so your email never goes through our network or computers."
v0v I like it.
 
Wow its an email client, amazing
 
4:38 PM
@caps Is it open source?
 
@khajvah Windows not Linux
 
Who cares about email privacy
 
Exactly
 
Oh shut up
 
It can never be secure or private
 
4:39 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...at least in the surviving stories. Don't get me wrong: I'm not sure Set ever was good, but it wouldn't particularly surprise me if his portrayal was a lot more positive at some previous time, either.
 
:cripes:
 
@khajvah Might as well make it as insecure and public as possible then, right?
 
@khajvah I don't think so.
 
@khajvah I'm still waiting for your e-mail account credentials. I mean, it can never be secure or private, so what are you waiting for?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Unless, you run your own server and use heavy encryption, you shouldn't care about privacy
 
4:40 PM
That's bullshit
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sorry, mate but that made no sense
 
That comma made no sense either
 
@khajvah Apologies, accepted.
 
@CatPlusPlus Who is your email provider?
 
Sean Michael Waltman (born July 13, 1972) is an American professional wrestler. He wrestled for the World Wrestling Federation (WWF, now called WWE) under the ring names 1–2–3 Kid and X-Pac intermittently between 1993 and 2002, World Championship Wrestling (WCW) as Syxx, and Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA) as Syxx-Pac and Sean Waltman. He is signed with WWE working in their Legends program. Waltman has won a dozen championships between WWE, WCW, and TNA; the majority were cruiserweight and tag team titles. He is the only wrestler to have held the TNA X Division Championship, the WCW Cr...
 
4:41 PM
@khajvah What a loss.
 
I'm not having this stupid conversation
 
I love this
 
@CatPlusPlus tell me, is it gmail?
 
Among others yes, that's not very relevant though
 
THEY ARE SPYING ON YOU
 
4:42 PM
I'm well aware that unencrypted email can be read, guess WHY IM LOOKING FOR A CLIENT WITH FUCKING GPG SUPPORT
 
And you are talking about encryption ?
You are also using windows...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes To be honest if there was a way for you to have read only access I would have no issue with giving you my email.
 
:cripes:
 
I would only cut you out for 10 minutes every time I have to reset a password or something.
 
@Jefffrey You can set an automated forwarding filter.
I don't even need credentials for that.
 
4:44 PM
The question is, why would you want that?
All I get is boring uni spam and results of my exams.
 
Is it Cat-Winding-Up day? I didn't get the email. Gmail prolly put it in my spam folder.
 
Both in italian.
 
Is make_shared and make_unique not allowing protected and private constructors an oversight? Or is it supposed to be that way?
 
I have some grasp of Italian.
 
lol
 
4:45 PM
Reading is relatively easy.
 
I did year of Italian classes.
 
@Pris Make them friend if you really want (but why the fuck would you do that, if your ctors are private)
 
Your mum is relatively easy
 
It was fun.
 
4:45 PM
Actually, listening is not too hard either, I found recently.
 
Google Code stopped being relevant about 5 years ago
 
@Mgetz Oh shit.
 
@Mgetz Google kills yet another service that people actively use; what's new?
 
@CatPlusPlus make_shareding from within the class. It's a legitimate use.
 
They have the actual numbers of how many people use it
Hint it's not that many, bitbucket and GitHub won
 
4:47 PM
inb4 bitbucket vs github
 
inb4 "they'll buy github"
 
Google Code was great when your only other real option was Sourceforge
 
user3010322
Yeah....
 
Functionally there's no competition, bitbucket allows private repos for free.
 
user3010322
Not too fond of Google Code...
 
4:47 PM
@Jefffrey github wins, unless you want private
 
Or Mercurial
I'll probably be migrating shit out of GH
 
github closed c+=, they are evil
 
Fuck git
 
@MarcoA. I don't think github wants to be bought
last I checked they were privately held
 
@CatPlusPlus Why?
 
4:48 PM
@StackedCrooked they usually take 2 years to sunset and provide data take back later. If not automatic mason to the next technology they have (not in this case i suppose)
 
@khajvah He obviously is into that kinky stuff
 
@khajvah So did Bitbucket, and so did the next one.
 
@sehe Seems August is gonna be the deadline.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes fuck, they are all evil, I am gonna use my pentium 3 to host a repo
 
@khajvah what is " c+="?
 
4:50 PM
Feminist Programming Language
 
@StackedCrooked A parody thing about feminism or something similar.
 
@CatPlusPlus vOv if you do want that
 
@CatPlusPlus code plex
 
@StackedCrooked An unfunny joke
 
@Pris passkey idiom is sometimes used for that
 
4:50 PM
imo github is much nicer to use than bitbucket
 
@sehe That's heading for discontinuation too
 
inb4 self host
 
I like github's issue tracker.
 
I do self-host all my repos.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ you know what I mean
 
4:51 PM
All those built-in issue trackers are so painfully primitive
 
I self-host them on google.
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah. But I've read that make_unique and make_shared should always be used instead of new and delete (which are evil and bad!) ... even though they aren't always a drop in replacement
 
There's about.gitlab.com now for private Git repos btw
They're also bought Gitorious
 
@CatPlusPlus unlimited private repos I heard
 
Why is that so important? Couldn't you simply put all your projects in a single repo?
 
oh man gitorious sucked
 
At least they have branch protection
 
I wonder if my very first repo ever is still on there
 
That's annoying to not have
Get your shit together GitHub
 
4:53 PM
> Better than GitHub
 
@Pris They should be preferred, but that doesn't mean that it's wrong to write std::shared_ptr<int> ptr(new int);. (Just make sure to use std::make_shared if passing directly to as a function argument.)
 
hahaha how awful gitorious.org/~preet
 
I was surprised to that they have a dedicated page about github. Even if they are, it seems odd.
 
The value in GitHub is in the "everyone is using it" aspect
The site itself is nothing amazing
 
going with the stream is a great benefit
like PHP
 
4:56 PM
@Mysticial wait, what's the k parameter?
 
So, where does GitLab get its money?
 
Counterfeiting.
 
Do I have to always pass an array whose size is a power of two?
 
The enterprise on-premises version
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The size of the FFT. The size would be 2^k since it only supports power-of-two lengths.
 
4:56 PM
@Jefffrey VC? Or they got them cheap?
 
myfunc(char*, char*, char*, int, char*, char*, char*, char*, char*,
                    char*, char*, char*, char*, char*, char*,
                    char*, char*, int, int, int, int, int,
                    int, int, int, int, int, int, int,
                    int, int,int,int=9999,int=11,int=8888,char* ="",char* ="");
 
@Mysticial That a limitation of FFT itself, not your code, right?
 
@chris lol
 
@CatPlusPlus The only thing I don't like about gitlab is that they are trying to advertise their open-srouce-ness
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes My code specifically. FFT can be applied to any transform length. But they are the most efficient on highly composite lengths.
 
4:57 PM
@khajvah Yeah what a sin
 
I thought CreateWindow was bad
 
It seems so common nowadays, "we are good people, we open our source code"
 
@chris Lol, I was gonna mention CreateWindowEx.
 
I guess the Excel interop SaveAs has like 15.
 
@chris That's not real. Right?
 
4:59 PM
Except it's actually meant for languages where you can get away with specifying one
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