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8:00 PM
Burning an ISO to a USB 2.0 flash drive now.
@AnalPhabet I found one.
 
what, of Elim Garak's mother's pussy?
 
And this is taking ages.
@Puppy Yes.
 
sbi
@cpx Actually, it doesn't rhyme at all. It's a bit of an alliteration, yeah, but a weak one, IYAM.
To me, "Tony the Tiger" invokes an image of Tom Jones. :)
 
@Nooble An ISO of what
 
Gawd, pizza again.
 
8:01 PM
@AnalPhabet Windows 10 Pro.
 
@Nooble Finally
 
God Edge is sooo bad.
@AnalPhabet Had to buy a license.
 
@Nooble lol
 
@AnalPhabet What?
 
@Nooble lol you having to buy a license, can't you see responses
 
8:04 PM
My professor won't e-mail me back of this project is acceptable.
I am the sads.
 
@AnalPhabet What's so funny about buying licenses?
 
cpx
@sbi Have you ever thought of yourself as "sbi the ape"?
 
@Nooble How exactly are you doing that?
 
@ElimGarak Using Rufus.
 
Ah, Rufus will be fine, it'll take care of the boot sector properly.
 
sbi
8:05 PM
@cpx Nope. It's "sbi the bonobo stuck in a gorilla body" here. Why do you ask?
Mhmm. What shall I make of this in the transcript? Feels like I am missing something there.
@sehe Feigling! :)
 
@AnalPhabet You can't really pirate it.
 
@Nooble There's nothing you can't pirate
Just a matter of teh Googeling mAd SkiLLz
 
sbi
@AnalPhabet Love?
 
cpx
@sbi Since I remember some people here used to call you an 'ape'.
 
@sbi Love is a concept so it doesn't apply
 
8:08 PM
@AnalPhabet You can't.
I tried.
 
You tried
So you didn't even read Russian forums
 
sbi
@cpx Well, have you looked at my avatar, recently? Have you looked up which species are encompassed by "ape"?
@AnalPhabet "...nothing..."
 
Alright, see you all later, 'bout to F11 myself into UEFI.
 
@sbi EDOM
 
@Nooble how's that gonna work with Windows 8/10's bootloader :p
 
8:12 PM
kapćładownik
 
sbi
Emergency Department of the Future (est. 1991; American College of Emergency Physicians)
Equivalent Degrees of Freedom
Extended Depth of Field (cameras)
Extended Depth of Focus
Eerste Diemer Operette Gezelschap (opera company; The Netherlands)
Department of Education, Office of Inspector General (Washington, DC)
Egyptian Dermatology Online Journal
Environment Dictated Operational Limitation
Epic Duels Online League (gaming)
Electronic Dissolution of Memory (conspiracy theory)
Estado de México
Educational Development Of Military Personnel
 
@sbi argument_out_of_domain
 
sbi
@AnalPhabet How the fuck do you abbreviate that with "EDOM"?
 
@sbi POSIX
 
sbi
Ah, "Domain Error"! That makes sense, now.
 
8:15 PM
> argument_out_of_domain error condition corresponding to POSIX code EDOM
 
cpx
Ah, the memories.
 
sbi
Anyway, say something like "this will never happen" or "this will always be true/false" to a C++ programmer, and be prepared for them to roll their eyes and prove you wrong.
 
personally I prefer to think of it as E_PROGRAMMER_STUPID
 
sbi
Yeah, but that's because your The Unsocial Puppy From Hell.
 
actually I'm from England
 
8:21 PM
@sbi From H@Ell?
 
sbi
@Puppy Didn't I say this?
 
user1804599
my $fmt = colored('[%' . length($#items) . 'd]', 'bold') . " %s\n";
printf $target $fmt, $i, $items[$i];
 
user1804599
non-constant format strings FTW
 
@sbi Not true a large % of the time anymore. Cuddle puppy now.
 
I'm a cuddlepuppy from England
 
8:27 PM
gah, so it is one word
too late to edit
In Swedish it is one thing one word. I always assume the opposite in English.
 
sbi
@JohanLarsson Even puppy isn't what he used to be.
 
Some kind of dysfunctional but happy family going on here. No friction.
 
sbi
8:29 PM
What? Are you new around here?
 
Two or three years, don't remember.
That usually means seven.
 
the Lounge only came into being in 2010
 
sbi
@JohanLarsson I believe this place was opened at the end of 2010.
 
ok bounded then
 
We need to make enum to int conversion easier for gui development. For example ui.my_combobox->setCurrentIndex((int)myenum); feels dirty because of the C style cast.
 
sbi
8:35 PM
@JohanLarsson But you haven't been around back then. At least, not with that handle.
Isn't enum to int implicit? It was in C++03.
 
@sbi not doing that of course
was just an example
 
sbi
Ah, OK.
 
@sbi I've posted some screens of my 3D model later on
actually I have some new ideas, I should make a new, better one
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz That might well be, but I lost interest in the transcript soon after that pic. :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz can we see? :D
 
8:42 PM
@melak47 want me to reupload? They are in the transcript
 
@BartekBanachewicz where? I'm missing some context :D
 
what's this computer for anyway?
 
@melak47 you can just search for "plywood" in the transcript and go from there :D
@melak47 I plan it for lan parties mostly
 
ah, so that's what the carry handle is for
 
8:47 PM
Alright, I finished cleaning almost everything.
Except the bathroom. I can do the bathroom later.
Now it's time to do LINNEEAAR ALLGGEEEBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
 
sbi
Refactoring the bathroom.
2
 
I should refactor the bathroom, but that's effort. :c
 
is that what kids call it nowdays?
 
@melak47 yeah
 
user1804599
this is so cool
 
sbi
8:50 PM
Yeah, me, the kid.
 
user1804599
I love CPAN.
 
@Mikhail to_underlying( myenum )
It's freezing cold in my room.
 
@BartekBanachewicz do you know where to put the PSU? seems like that would be the bulkiest part
 
@melak47 either at the floor or hooked to the wall
i want to mut as much weight on the walls as possible
they are gonna be strong af anyway
I have an idea for the screen mount as well but that's delicate modeling and I'm not a pro :S
 
@TonyTheLion part of it is: I don't actually use it
@elyse I dunno. I'm quite turned off by the number of times it came up with Perl solutions
 
8:56 PM
oh man the dynamic desktops on OSX are cool
inb4 linux has multiple desktops as well
 
user1804599
@sehe it has modules for everything
 
@elyse Huh. gvim73.exe has never been a problem for me on www.vim.org
 
is there any way I can have a variadic template function accept one string per type parameter?
 
@elyse I think you might have missed a point
 
user1804599
Just found one that makes Term::ANSIColor work on Windows.
 
8:57 PM
@melak47 Not very well.
 
@zneak tuple(string, T)... then recursive c++17 apply to unpack and apply as args maybe?
 
like template<typename... Args> void foo(/* one string parameter per Args */), except with something instead of the comment.
 
@zneak tuple<string, T>... then recursive c++17 apply to unpack and apply as args maybe?
 
you mean like void foo(arg1, string, arg2, string...)?
 
no, like void foo<double, int, std::string>(string, string, string)
 
9:00 PM
@elyse How did you get that duplicate post in?
 
@zneak template<typename... Args> foo(std::array<string, sizeof...(Args)>) maybe?
 
blech
just found a place in the Wide codebase where I did not use auto
 
you're dead to me now
 
you have no shame
 
How could you.
 
9:01 PM
I feexed it as soon as I found it
 
the arabic parts sound good
 
designing screen holder :)
 
does the screen have 100x100 VESA screw mount whatever stuff?
 
what were you making, again
 
@melak47 yes
@sehe a computer case
 
9:04 PM
then that should probably work :D
 
maybe it would be easier to just have a normal case and superglue a screen on to it.
 
oh right
 
trust me, I'm not engineer
 
@Puppy this sounds like an accurate description of C++'s std::graphics design
 
heh
 
9:05 PM
@BartekBanachewicz and you... are designing Java inline assembly?
 
seriously I am making this to do something else than programming
 
I haven't looked at that stuff in a while, but from what I remember, it was pure shite, and then getting worse
 
@BartekBanachewicz hmm, this'll put the screen weight pretty much on the front side. PSU in the back for balancing?
 
@melak47 yes. Also angling should help stability hopefully. Also screen has its PSU on the bottom-ish which should help again
 
hmm
currently thinking about return new std::shared_ptr<T>(stuff);
 
9:07 PM
.... Wut.
 
-1 no make_shared
 
if nothing else helps I'll make it have a bigger footprint
 
make_shared<shared_ptr<T>> :D
 
but that's euech
 
wait. new shared_ptr lolwut
 
9:07 PM
that does it:
 
@sehe exactly
 
template<typename T>
struct string_type { typedef std::string type; };

template<typename T>
void foo(const std::string& str)
{
	std::cout << str << '\n';
}

template<typename T, typename... Args>
void foo(const std::string& s, const typename string_type<Args>::type&... strings)
{
	foo<T>(s);
	foo<Args...>(strings...);
}
 
@zneak oh yeah, clever.
 
Kinky.
 
but use an alias pls
 
9:08 PM
I should do something like that for format.
Which reminds me, I need to completely revamp how I do format.
So I can get gud formatting.
 
@sehe C API
 
I've made a component at an angle instead of rotating the instance
now I can't scale it
 
user1804599
@sehe ?????????
 
oops. compiling llvm taking 85% RAM, clion wants another gig (bloody indexer :D), windows now wants to kill clion :(
@BartekBanachewicz what is this, solidworks?
 
9:10 PM
@elyse obvious misreply /cc @melak47
 
@melak47 SketchUp
 
user1804599
Made a UI library today.
 
user1804599
To some extent.
 
@sehe oh, I accidentally hit some key combo that went back in the history while I was editing that post, then I went forward again. :S
 
normally chat deduplicates
Try it
 
9:12 PM
it's not a duplicate message per-se. going back cancelled the edit, but going forward left me with a copy in the edit field
 
Huh
 
then it turned out slightly different because I wasn't done editing, so not a duplicate
 
normally chat deduplicates
 
Stop it
 
Hah. So it's actually very time-local
 
user1804599
9:13 PM
No, I just insert lots of spaces.
 
Stop it :D:D
 
user1804599
does it deduplicate audit messages?
 
no
 
user1804599
hmmm
 
user1804599
9:14 PM
@sehe what do you think of by beautiful Perl code?
 
user1804599
my ($self, $buffer, $length, $flags) = (shift, \shift, @_);
 
purrfect VESA mount
 
@elyse indecent $self exposure
 
user1804599
I need to modify the buffer at the call-site.
 
9:15 PM
maybe I should stream this
how do i stream mac
 
user1804599
And \shift makes this work. :]
 
template<typename T>
using stringly_t = std::string;

template<typename T, typename... Args>
void foo(const std::string& s, const stringly_t<Args>&... strings)
 
okay, cool
 
@BartekBanachewicz OBS works on mac I think
 
OBS works everywhere <3
(except Windows < 7)
 
9:18 PM
not their plugins.
And android
 
Windows <3 < Windows <7
 
Hello everyone.
Now on Windows 10 on my SSD.
 
y u not on chair
 
@AnalPhabet My SSD is my chair.
 
@elyse Shouldn't you use a prototype with \@ or \$ instead?
 
user1804599
9:25 PM
No.
 
@Nooble Don't do that
 
Now it's time to install all the crap I need.
 
user1804599
Prototypes don't work with class methods anyway.
 
@Nooble Install CoD:UO
 
user1804599
Also, @_ is a view of the caller's arguments.
 
user1804599
9:26 PM
Modifications to elements of @_ can be observed by the caller.
 
lel, Microsoft bought Havok
 
user1804599
But my $buffer = shift; would copy the element. I want to modify the original, so I need a reference to it (i.e. \shift).
 
@elyse Oh, so your buffer is a scalar. OK.
 
user1804599
Yeah.
 
user1804599
I'm overriding recv from IO::Socket.
 
user1804599
 
> Live Streaming is not available in your country due to rights issues.
>
> Sorry about that.
 
what the fuck
can i change that?
 
user1804599
werks4me
 
@BartekBanachewicz streams
 
9:36 PM
@melak47 i wonder if you'll be able to watch the vid later
the connection here sucks anyway
I'm at my parents place
 
@AnalPhabet So much crap to install.
 
user1804599
I don't get all the Perl hate.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't think so, it's a German thing. Streaming on youtube apparently requires a broadcast license like a radio or TV station or something :v
 
user1804599
German law is stupid.
 
I've fucked up something so much
 
user1804599
9:47 PM
good
 
@BartekBanachewicz Progress.
 
@elyse think I'm gonna install Rust, fun to benchmark perf vs C# linq
 
expecting 1000x faster
 
@Nooble this is so humiliating
 
9:48 PM
my colleague had a few problems with LINQ performance, seems that they have issues w.r.t. inlining lambdas
 
@BartekBanachewicz I thought sketchup was idiot proof :D
 
@melak47 Frankly, that seems logical to me.
 
@Puppy linq is an allocation fest
 
yeah but with GC that's survivable
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson ok :p
 
9:50 PM
@Puppy comes with a (deferred) cost
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson use Rust for it, then use P/Invoke in C#.
 
@JohanLarsson Not with a tracing GC.
 
@Puppy you're not operating broadcasting infrastructure like high power microwave dishes or occupying radio frequencies, so it's a bit silly
 
@elyse What editor do you use?
 
@Nooble epilogue to the hole story is worth watching
 
user1804599
9:51 PM
@JohanLarsson At home or at work?
 
@melak47 Those are merely implementation details. You are broadcasting, just over IP rather than radio.
 
@elyse for rust, at home, not paying anything for testing it
 
user1804599
Sublime Text 2.
 
@Puppy just because it's called a "broadcast license" doesn't mean it was made for or should apply to this kind of broadcast
 
no, but I don't see why it shouldn't.
 
9:52 PM
do you need a broadcast license to use skype?
 
wtf I had Sublime installed
 
skype is not broadcast, it's point-to-point.
 
@Puppy you're not impacting anyone else with this, unlike radio
 
@Puppy you can have a conference, so you're broadcasting to a select audience :p
 
Sublime Text 3 or bust
 
9:53 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That's an independent matter really.
if you're saying that the broadcast licence is misnamed and it's really a radio licence, then sure, I agree, I don't know the details of this law.
 
@Puppy that's precisely for what the broadcast law was set up
 
however it seems hard for me to imagine how such a law would apply to YouTube broadcasters if they're not using radio, if the law is about forbidding them from broadcasting radio.
 
@Puppy when it was formed I am 99% sure "broadcast" was literally equal to "radio broadcast"
 
user1804599
the guy who came up with this shit just earns a lot of money off it
 
user1804599
that's the sole reason it's in place
 
9:55 PM
Do you use the Cargo guy?
 
user1804599
Cargo is fine.
 
user1804599
Except you can't have multiple libraries per project, which is absolutely retarded.
 
user3790646
Good evening
 
@elyse really?
 
user1804599
of course
 
user1804599
9:57 PM
why else would they make that law
 
to prevent radio interference?
 
um, I meant the cargo thing
 
user1804599
lawmakers are rats, everyone knows that
 
i made the stream show just the main editor window
which means the palette clicks aren't there
 
user1804599
9:58 PM
@melak47 yes.
 
user1804599
I looked up why and apparently it's for no reason other than "you don't need it."
 
you can have multiple binaries though. weird.
 
i guess mabye tied to the live video issue that that agreement is needed
 
radio frequences are more or less shared mutable state so regulating their operations seems logical tome
 
@melak47 but it only applies to YT right
we could theoretically have our own streaming server
 
9:59 PM
Trying to apply laws designed for old things to similar Internet-based things never produces anything good
 
I really need to switch to java before I read up on haskell more
 

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