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3:00 AM
@Borgleader eh, actually it was only 4 notifications. It's been four years since I checked it regularly so I think people have gotten the picture now. The four notifications for a single picture where the post explicitly mentioned how I probably wouldn't see it. :P
 
@Borgleader candy crush invitation from a female
 
Ugh
FFS I'm going to write a svto* library
fuck this bullshit C-string IO
 
Ell
Svto?
 
string view to *
 
Ell
I ought to sleep
Night all
 
3:11 AM
no! I'm still awake. :(
/jk night
 
@Ell night ell
 
Ell
@jaggedSpire come to bed my love
Night all
 
@Ell no I must drink this kahlua. ;_;
 
@jaggedSpire you have to ruin everything
@Ell nn cupcake
 
but fare well on your dream voyages
@nick that's me, I'm a ruiner
 
3:14 AM
@jaggedSpire ... must?
 
@Borgleader there's a gremlin holding a spear to my head
I may possibly be short on sleep
 
She's hallucinating.
 
I was until I took a caffeine tab an hour ago
 
@ThePhD Reminds me of that Euro Trip scene...
 
@ThePhD nah I haven't seen a utahraptor yet or a hard hat I'm good
 
3:16 AM
speaking of which... I should watch that movie again, although... it probably wont live up to the memory I have of it
 
and the gremlin hasn't offered me baklava
 
svtof
 
so I know it's real
 
Well, these names are fucking shitty.
from_string
Much better.
 
unlike that other time. ;_;
a baklava of lies
 
3:17 AM
@Borgleader nothing ever seems to live up to the original memory (wrong linked message)
 
float x = from_string( sv )
double x = from_string( sv )
 
why I haven't watched star wars in years
 
Look at that beautiful syntax.
 
filo dough and honey and nuts and the square root of negative one
 
So crisp I could kiss it.
 
3:17 AM
WHERE'S THE SEMICOLONS NOOB
 
SEMICOLONS ARE FOR THE WEAK.
 
@nick Yeah... I had an urge to watch Mortal Kombat on Netflix the other day... haven't because of that
Although I'd watch SW again
 
Now
do I return error codes
 
so is sleep, that's why I'm taking Mr. Snagglefoot's advice and drinking this kahlua
 
std::weak_semicolon
 
3:18 AM
Or return values? (And throw exceptions.)
 
kahlua sounded dumb until I googled it a second ago
 
@nick coffee liqueur and rum ftw
good with milk, good with ice cream, good with miscellaneous chocolate things, good with cake
 
what the hell is wrong with you
those foods are too normal
 
@nick cackles
adding cinnamon seems like a good idea
 
it does to me so you're clearly drunk
 
3:21 AM
@nick mumble. Everyone cool is on.
 
@nick but I've put off drinking anything so far! I'm trying to get the gremlin drunk instead
 
@Nooble k hun 1 sec
 
he seems insistent that the kahlua be gone soon, so I convinced him that he can only be sure it's gone if he drinks it, since I might pull something
 
I should stop browsing /r/aww and go to bed =/
 
3:24 AM
go to bed
 
@Borgleader and start browsing /r/foxes instead, you mean. ;)
 
@jaggedSpire did you not like the baby deer o.O he was cuteeeee
 
@Borgleader :D so very
 
Ugh VS debugger with Unity breaks more often than it helps
 
deer are altogether too comfortable around humans
 
3:29 AM
They're planning their demise
 
brb getting my shotgun
 
You'll pay deerly for your crimes
 
@nick city deer, walkin' down the street, city deer, lookin' for someplace to eat, city deer, in your garden
 
@CatPlusPlus no you did not just say that
 
/cc @ThePhD Cat has joined the pun side :)
 
3:30 AM
it must have been a fluke
 
@nick be a deer and donate the meat
 
you can make bad puns cuz youre jagged
 
@nick and I cannot lie
 
doubt it
 
too true
 
3:35 AM
And this time VS crashed and apparently reset the font
So that's cool
 
@jaggedSpire does that mean you like big butts
 
@Borgleader I can neither confirm nor deny such rumors
 
who even changes the font in a code editor
 
(no)
@nick people who hate the default
with the fire of a thousand suns
 
@CatPlusPlus it’s Sunday :/
 
3:38 AM
is sunday not a funday?
 
awh
 
@LucDanton Dedlines errywhere
 
every day is Funday for cat :)
 
I've been doing shitload of refactoring these past 24h
 
3:40 AM
@CatPlusPlus at this rate you’ll be ded either way
 
welp, bed time for me, night all
 
Gaems are not easy to turn into cash
 
night
 
@Borgleader nn
@CatPlusPlus get funded before you publish :)
kickstarter, greenlight, blah blah
 
Greenlight is not funding
KS is not available to us
Also 'get funded' is even harder than making the thing
Money is not the issue, getting online with sales asap is
We're already past Greenlight
 
3:49 AM
game dev is supposed to be fun
6
 
wat
 
lol
Jobs are never fun
 
If you love your job, you never work a day in your life!
 
If you love your job you're probably workaholic
 
right bloody merkins
 
3:58 AM
@Borgleader sobbing grows louder
 
@ThePhD Don't worry! The power of Catface will sustain you through this trial!
 
@jaggedSpire No!
 
provided, of course, you allow yourself to be guided by its whispers...
:3
 
Shameful!
... Dear god what's happened to me. ;~;
 
@ThePhD :3
 
3:59 AM
SHAMEFUL.
 
gotta be honest, every time I post a catface now, I hear this in my head.
well, when I'm talking to you.
 
> Shower Scene
u know what it is
 
> psycho
really excellent horror movie track?
 
haha I didn't watch it, there was an ad so I closed the tab
 
that suits a dawning horror as you realize the idea that has you in its claws?
 
4:02 AM
OK OK
 
that yeah, that seems doable! And fun! :3
 
only thing worse than the cat face is half of one
 
it will only be okay when @ThePhD finally joins me in my schemes
ON A COMPLETELY UNRELATED NOTE (honest), I want to dress up as Darth Sidious for Halloween but I won't be going go to any parties and last year there were no trick-or-treaters.
 
@ThePhD there is a party at jagged's house this halloween if you're interested
 
4:10 AM
But...
But I like my sanity.
 
@ThePhD sanity? Where we're going we don't need sanity.
 
@ThePhD clearly a lie since you're here
 
@ThePhD surely I'm not that bad an influence? :3
 
@jaggedSpire Whimpering.
 
@ThePhD :(
 
4:17 AM
I need a way of indicating how far into the view someone's advanced...
And I need to also return success or not.
 
@ThePhD return a number of catfaces proportional to the distance.
 
i was legitimately interested but then catfaces happened
 
@nick okay, fine. Catfaces have been toggled to off for the next hour
 
std::pair<T, string_view> from_string( string_view input );
 
>:3
sorry what
 
4:23 AM
@nick I'm not gonna catface for the next hour, if you don't want me to.
 
i really don't care i was just picking on you
 
I'm aware others may tire of the catface
awh
one day, even I may tire of the catface.
 
And then it will die.
Die the horrible death it deserves.
 
that's the saddest thing I've heard all day
 
And on that day, my catface-apprentice will strike me down and become the new lord of the Catface.
For there must only ever be two.
 
4:25 AM
wait what
jagged is explaining this to me and i am like wat
 
there is a long and storied history of the Catface Order, extending many thousands of messages
But not all our history remains, for much of it was destroyed in the wars
 
the wars
 
yes. Our foes thought they had driven us all extinct, but we only hid...biding our time, growing in strength
 
BUT I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE
i can put an end to this madness
 
you only think you know where I live.
do it, let the desperation consume you!
embrace the way of the Catface!
 
4:32 AM
never
 
Oh, you speak in such absolutes.
so certain of your future
 
Deerface
 
ty so much cat I was feeling pretty scared and alone
 
>>> [{1}] > [{2}]
False
>>> [{1}] < [{2}]
False
>>> [{1}] == [{2}]
False
 
3:*>
 
4:37 AM
@jaggedSpire why is there a pair of gonads on top of your smily?
 
@nick remember, the Catface will bring you power...
@orlp it's supposed to be a deerface
standard character set is shit at deerfaces and so am I, as it turns out
 
@CatPlusPlus how do I play it
 
user406009
@orlp For interests sake, what language is that?
 
@Lalaland Python
 
user406009
4:41 AM
Yeah, Python's set comparisons don't provide a complete ordering of sets.
 
user406009
It's actually noted in the docs.
 
user406009
I wonder, is it possible to even have a complete ordering of sets?
 
what does that mean
 
user406009
Define an operator< on sets such that one and only one of the following is true: a<b, b<a, a==b.
 
user406009
Constraints: Each item in the set has an operator<
 
user406009
4:45 AM
My guess would be to sort the items in the set and then do a lexicographical ordering.
 
In mathematics, a linear order, total order, simple order, or (non-strict) ordering is a binary relation (here denoted by infix ≤) on some set X which is transitive, antisymmetric, and total. A set paired with a total order is called a totally ordered set, a linearly ordered set, a simply ordered set, or a chain. If X is totally ordered under ≤, then the following statements hold for all a, b and c in X: If a ≤ b and b ≤ a then a = b (antisymmetry); If a ≤ b and b ≤ c then a ≤ c (transitivity); a ≤ b or b ≤ a (totality). Antisymmetry eliminates uncertain cases when both a precedes b and b precedes...
 
user406009
These sort of issues become really important when you provide custom comparators and want to use std::sort or something like that.
 
user406009
It's really easy to provide a bad comparison function.
 
user406009
Which can cause really bad screw ups in the sorting algorithm.
 
@Nooble is everywhere
 
4:50 AM
@ElimGarak Nooble is the omnipotent koala
 
@Nooble Can I watch Netflix with your mom instead? <3
 
@LucDanton and lala thanks
@ElimGarak everybody is using his pic for some reason
 
@nick everyone wants to be Nooble
 
fair enough
 
user406009
@nick I remember this coming up when every now and then someone wanders into the JavaScript room complaining that Array.sort() sucks and is broken (when they actually have a broken compare function).
 
4:54 AM
did you tell them to use jQuery?
 
I thought jQuery was implicit
 
@jaggedSpire actually a lot more people are migrating to vanilla-js.com
 
user406009
People joke about JQuery, but it's actually a great example of good API design.
 
huh
 
user406009
Usability is important, and JQuery had the perfect level of abstraction to do what people wanted to do.
 
4:58 AM
a lot of people use it as a crutch though, which is why it gets hate these days
 
user406009
Yes, but unlike other products (cough, cough PHP), JQuery won out because it was high quality and easy to use.
 
lol but those tools aren't even competing
jQuery can make your life easier but only to a certain extent
now that we have decent (and fairly standardized) DOM manipulation with vanilla js in modern browsers, it becomes less and less important in my opinion
plus things like animations- CSS animations can be a pain to work with due to vendor prefixing and the like but there's good support now
why am I rambling about this in a C++ room
 
@nick because we're not all webdevs and thus might not have heard this before?
 
well, the likelihood that you care is probably minimal so that's kind of my point haha
 
nah, I like learning things.
 
5:09 AM
So whats going on lounge people?
 
I'm converting people to the ways of Catface
 
^
 
Nick is talking about webdev
 
rambling*
 
The PHD is denying that he's converted to the the ways of Catface, but if he hasn't it's only a matter of time. He's slipping
:3
 
5:11 AM
orlp is looking at gonads and cat is grumpy
@jaggedSpire he's weak
he will fall soon enough
if he hasn't already
 
He has been confronted with the power of the Catface side of philosophy
 
I'm trying to do OpenCV OpenGL interoperability to upgrade my microscope control software.
 
sounds productive i don't like it
2
 
stackoverflow.com/a/33022851/3459110 sigh burn with fire please
 
Much better than the equations I spent all day wrestling with. My PI doesn't seem to understand Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
 
5:13 AM
@AwalGarg go back to the JS room where you belong scrub
 
strtok()-er ace
`♫
strtok() that shiny coat
strtok()-ing is the antidote
strtok() that, it's a start
Only for the wild at heart
♫`
 
i love you
 
@nick I belong to the heaven. Came here to rescue the innocent souls from you nerds.
 
I'm pronouncing it as stir-toke in my head
 
user406009
To be fair, strok_r is OK.
 
5:16 AM
@AwalGarg i am here strictly as a voyeur
 
@Lalaland but POSIX only, yes?
 
the last time I did a C++ was 3 months ago
never again
 
the _r suffixes seem to be, with the _s suffixes being the optional members of the standard, and also Microsoft's divergent functions that do similar things
cue incoherent screaming
 
fuck, why can't computers program themselves
 
because then the code would be even worse
 
5:19 AM
@AwalGarg > I like to write JavaScript (not to be confused with jQuery)
lies
 
user406009
@Mikhail well, most of us would then be out of a job.
 
I pretend to do physics
 
Did someone upvote the strtok answer?
 
Apparently someone did.
 
it was at -3 and now it's at -2
 
5:20 AM
@Mikhail teehee
@jaggedSpire WASN'T ME
 
I'm going to assume someone felt bad
 
I never feel bad
 
I never feel
 
I never
 
5:21 AM
I
 
stop
 
user406009
Someone should edit the answer to strtok_r + windows equivalent.
 
proooobably strtok_s with the arguments reversed and some stupid return argument
based off of my experiences with gmtime
 
someone should just close the question and be done with it
 
Or... just have the answer deleted and let the question be marked duplicate.
 
5:22 AM
Its pretty closed
 
it could be more closed
 
why is there activity on it then
 
If you fully close it, then it might appear in some other form
 
like cell
 
why is Pluto not actually a planet
 
5:23 AM
"This isn't even my final form!"
 
720 lines of commit summary
 
actually I don't know who said that
 
@Mikhail rekt
 
5:24 AM
@CatPlusPlus brevity is for skrubs
 
@AwalGarg seriously though I am going to copy your website style
 
user406009
@nick because then there would be too many planets. There are a bunch of things of size/shape similar to Pluto iirc.
 
@nick didn’t pay taxes
 
681 files changed, 8537 insertions(+), 39899 deletions(-)
 
@nick ofcourse not
@CatPlusPlus -1 not enough deletions
 
5:24 AM
@AwalGarg can't stop me this is the internet this is america this is freedom bitch
 
@CatPlusPlus looks like there’s still some code remaining, back to work
 
user406009
@CatPlusPlus nice. -30k is really good!
 
@nick why'd you copy a shitty website though?
 
user406009
How did you eliminate all that junk?
 
Old input library got purged
 
5:25 AM
I think we should all engage in a quick circlejerk and follow each other's github profiles
 
why fuck do you have 681 in a project
 
just real quick nobody will notice
 
@Mikhail it's a big project, why else
 
I JUST LOVE MAKING FILES
 
@nick except yours because you suggested that :-P
 
5:26 AM
This is more than in the linux kernel (probably)
 
That's the stupidest question I've seen all week
Congrats
 
I bet you haven't looked at the question queue on the main site all week
 
I never do
Why would I
 
masochism
I dunno
 
When I see the word "else" in this room, I get reminded of a notorious user with a similar username in this room. He/She is called "elys" or something.
 
5:27 AM
Whatever boats your goat
 
Whatever moats your goat.
 
Also someone hasn't looked at Linux kernel since like 1995
 
@CatPlusPlus you like to touch your stuff
 
whatever goats your moat
 
Whatever pats your cat?
 
5:28 AM
Deer god
 
whatever mats your flat
 
25000=15,000,000/(600)
 
Whatever queers your deer.
 
Whatever stops this shitty joke
 
@ThePhD whatever fears this mirror
 
5:29 AM
Watch out for dropbears
 
dropbeer
 
dropdeer
 
Dropface
 
droptable
 
5:31 AM
at least capitalize it like sane people
 
@AwalGarg wow k
you know you wanted it
 
logo_game_color.pdf | 40328 +++++++++++++++++++
Good job git
You did it
You counted lines in a vector image
 
@AwalGarg at least you're not accusing anyone of sanity
 
haha using a pdf in a game haha haha
 
It's associated materials, not used in game
 
5:32 AM
throw an error if the user doesn't have Adobe Reader installed
 
throw an error if the user has it installed as well
 
Bwack
 
@AwalGarg and about your site, I would not consider it shitty. It's simple yet interesting, and doesn't try to eat whitespace
the Q&A section is a nice touch
 
what section again?
o.O yeah it looks ok now. I wonder when was the last time I touched it.
 
maybe add an SO flair, dunno if it'll fuck up the design though
 
user406009
5:35 AM
@CatPlusPlus I still can't believe you are working on a game. Of all industries to work in when you have high standards ...
 
the FAQ sorry
@Lalaland this is why he hates life
 
@nick explain to me, my lord. Why do I hate life?
 
you don't because you are awal Garg: the guy who doesn't care
 
great observation skills
 
ty i try
i'm out guys, night
 
5:44 AM
Nighty night
Sleep tight.
 
night
 
Make sure you take a flying kite.
 
made by elon musk
 
So... MSVC with max optimizations yields proper (5x+) results with SIMD, same code on OS X + Clang with max optimizations yields 4 ns in favor of scalar.
 
Bummer.
 
5:49 AM
Jesus Christ, I'm going to have to write asm again. I don't want to. :'(
 
Just tweak clang's options.
Max inlining etc. etc.
 
I've basically thrown it into the most aggressive mode. It actually optimizes the scalar variant by almost 45% wrt. MSVC.
What's even more hilarious, Clang has the benefit of testing code on a state of the art i7, while the MSVC /Ox variant runs on an i5 from the Surface pro 3.
 
Nanosecond but with vectorization? What are you tracking?
 
Just some mean time between a billion samples, need to get a quick idea of where I'm at.
Observing the disassembly, it does some completely unnecessary things here. I guess I'll try to help it along.
I need to know exactly how it weathers an influx of matrix inversions, many times during the work involved with delivering 60 frames each second.
 
If eigen doens't like it you can get a closed form solution in mathematica and hope the compiler vectorizes it...
//CForm
`Mat = {{a, b, c, d}, {e, f, g, h}, {i, j, k, l}, {m, n, o, p}}
Inverse[Mat] // CForm`
 
6:04 AM
Oh, it is closed form. But also some further twists which play on some of the patterns that emerge without repeating calculations. It basically does perfect on Windows and MSVC, which is really baffling me. I've tried -O2/3, even "-Ofast", given it further hints about inlining stuff, and everything is completely unrolled.
 
restrict
also check (or force) the compile target
 
6:21 AM
Definitely my profiling "scheme", targeting x86_64 only, SSE 4.2 explicitly enabled along with max optimization level.
(and all other stuff)
Alright, had to clean the build and restart XCode Beta. Now it's fine-ish. Just have to fix some of these unnecessary load stores. I am annoyed, but happy-ish.
 
7:09 AM
hi
 
sup
 
C assignment :(
 
rip
 
7:40 AM
oooooooh SIMD
 
7:55 AM
WTB compiler which doesn't emit bullshit on the basis of NEON intrinsics.
 

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