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5:00 PM
@Fanael Same thing.
 
whelp resume sent to recruiters we'll see what happens
 
@thecoshman you're a gay joke
 
@AlexM. we screwed quite a lot countries but you probably mean the match where we destroyed brasil
 
probably
 
Gosh that was terrible.
 
5:02 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Just wanted to say that ^^
not terrible but old
 
Ell
@AlexM. brazil?
 
I am using orwell dev c++ compiler. How can i execute program from command prompt? Please help me.
 
dammit I got a match now what
 
Ell
@meet I strongly recommend using g++, clang, or msvc instead of dev c++
 
user1804599
$ ./a.out
 
user784668
5:04 PM
@Ell Emacs is my compiler
 
Ell
But all you have to do is change to the programmmes directory and type the name of the programme
 
@Ell crap, I always write Brazil with s. Can't remember that.
 
user1804599
Brazilië
 
Ell
Brazilian
 
@Ell: why you don't recommend dev c++
 
5:05 PM
@rightfold Is that dutch?
 
@meet hasnt it not been updated in like 2-3 years?
 
@Ell Dev-C++ is an IDE. It uses GCC to compile.
@Borgleader Not true any more.
 
Ell
@meet well, what version are you using? when was this version released?
 
user1804599
@bamboon Ja.
 
Last update was in fact just ten days ago
 
5:06 PM
oic
 
@Ell: 5.7.1
 
user784668
@meet sounds recent
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh. My bad. He did say dev c++ compiler
 
@rightfold crazy
 
Lol, i thought you said ten years...
 
5:06 PM
@Ell yes
 
... and meant Dev-C++.
 
from where can i get g++ compiler?
 
user1804599
@Ell lol MSVC
 
user1804599
$ brew install gcc
 
5:07 PM
@meet What platform are you using?
 
Ell
@meet are you on windows? or linux?
 
@rightfold sudo pacman -S gcc
 
@Ell windows
 
user784668
@rightfold rm -rf /*
 
5:08 PM
@meet You need to get the MinGW-compiler. Google it.
 
Dev-C++ ships with a recent GCC.
 
user784668
It made my Mac 10000% faster!
 
Or install CodeBlocks right away, it has it included.
 
Stop saying bullshit.
 
oh, it's my ex
suppose that makes sense
 
5:08 PM
@Loopunroller Dev-C++ has it as well.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Orwell Dev-C++ may.
 
user1804599
Undev-Unc++
 
user784668
@Loopunroller Which is the Dev-C++ upstream today.
 
Can you please give link to free download g++?
 
Orwell Dev-C++ is Dev-C++
 
user1804599
5:09 PM
Dev+C--
 
@meet You don't need it.
You have it already.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yes... a beginner might still only google "Dev C++" and find the old version. Not feasible. Better make him google properly :)
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes But that's 4.8.1.
 
user784668
1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Stop saying bullshit.
 
5:10 PM
It's recent enough.
 
@Loopunroller Not really
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes he said compiler! It's not my fault I thought he meant the compiler :(
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes ikr
 
C++ was, C++ is, C++ will remain pre-eminent language for the development of high performance software & system programming. right?
 
I just did that:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25960652/simple-client-server-example-windows-in-c-or-c
 
user1804599
5:11 PM
No.
 
Ell
@meet yup
 
@meet I'm from the future. I can say with confidence that, yes, you are right.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit For gods sake Lightness. The first link google.co.uk offers on "Dev C++" is this one. If you tell a beginner to use Dev C++ he will google exactly that and find that 2005 version that is a pile of crap.
 
aww she's cute but only 18
@Loopunroller It's really not that bad
fuck it if I'm going to be using Tinder I need to stop caring about girls being the same age as my baby sister who went to Uni today
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The first argument against it i can think of it is the obvious lack of C++11 support. Can you even access the keyword list so syntax highlighting can be updated?
 
5:13 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It is. It's full of bugs and ships with GCC 2.9 or something like that.
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey, it's not that old!
 
user784668
But 3.4.2 is old as fuck.
 
Did anyone here but me actually use it?
 
user784668
It's older than @JerryCoffin probably.
 
@Loopunroller Yes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I doubt it's that old...
 
@BartekBanachewicz you might like to read that
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit At least that. It's horribly bugged though, did you try it?
 
why so many things left undefined in C++?
 
user784668
5:14 PM
GCC 4.0 was released in 753 BC, right?
 
@meet Portability.
@Fanael Jesus was using GCC 4.1.2, so yeah, about right
 
@Loopunroller please explain in depth
 
@Loopunroller we use 4.1.2 at work ._.
 
user784668
@melak47 lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I used it in 2004.
 
5:16 PM
@melak47 OH MY GOD ARE YOU JESES
 
is it true that java is simplified version of C++?
8
 
user784668
@Loopunroller They're Jesi.
 
user784668
@meet no
 
user1804599
No.
 
@meet We want C++ to work on every machine possible, even the weird ones. To accomplish that we have to restrict the set of defined operations so more machines (with less functionalities or weird formats like non-IEEE754 for floats or 9-Bit chars) can be supported.
 
5:17 PM
@rightfold: why no?
 
user1804599
Completely different philosophy.
 
@meet Are you blurry?
 
@Loopunroller what?
 
@meet Are you blurry?
Like, totally high?
On acid or something?
 
user1804599
@Loopunroller Are you unrolling loops?
 
user1804599
5:18 PM
Get back to work dammit. Make my program faster.
 
oh god I'm getting messages this was such a mistake
 
user784668
@rightfold lol
 
@rightfold Okay boss... whispers asshole
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What have you done?
 
Tinder.
Time to move on
 
5:19 PM
@Loopunroller: no
 
And the "scene" around me is more than a little weak
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
@rightfold I need to point out that unrolling all the loops is not necessarily boosting your programs performance since loading all the code from the memory might slow everything down tremendously. Also my hands hurt.
 
static memory allocation is good for efficiency but what about wastage of memory?
 
user1804599
@Loopunroller It's your manager's job to find out which loops to unroll.
 
5:21 PM
@rightfold But... you are my manager :3
 
@Fanael considering they are talking about GCC 5 now.. yeah sounds about right, Moses used GCC 3
 
user1804599
Nope, that's my other slave.
 
@Fanael I'll take that as a compliment to my youthful appearance. Unfortunately, it's not even close to true. To put things in perspective, consider that I'm pretty sure all the systems I first programmed were dead and gone by the time Windows 1.0 was put on the market.
 
You can tell this is a Yank app, though; calling 50 miles away "near"
I CANT WALK TO MY PUB FROM 50 MILES AWAY
 
@Mysticial kapow!
 
user784668
5:22 PM
7 mins ago, by Fanael
GCC 4.0 was released in 753 BC, right?
 
user1804599
 
Ell
Man work was terrible
I made a loss on one hour
 
user3010322
A loss?
 
@rightfold Oh please--I wrote Fortran, not COBOL.
 
user3010322
 
user3010322
5:23 PM
FONTCONFIG CAN EAT A DICK.
 
That seems unlikely.
 
Ell
@ThePhD I drove ~35 miles and made £5.03
 
Also, what's wrong?
 
Ell
the petrol + wear & tear of the car costs more than £5.03 I reckon :(
 
user3010322
@Ell Lolwat.
 
5:24 PM
lol wtf
 
Ell
I need a new job ASAP, this sucks balls
 
user3010322
You got a door2door job?
 
user1804599
What is your job?
 
Ell
Pizza delivery man :D
 
user1804599
Sucking dicks? Oh.
 
5:24 PM
lol
 
Ell
@rightfold Presenting my dick in a pizza box
 
@Ell You make your own pizzas?
 
COBOL was never written by actual programmers. Most COBOL was written by people who went to business school, but lacked the connections to get jobs where the kickbacks were more lucrative.
 
rightfold felt like trading jobs there for a moment, I'm sure
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes No. I just deliver them
 
5:25 PM
@thecoshman saw already
 
And you pay for the car costs?
 
You're getting ripped off :v
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I get paid £1 per delivery regardless of distance
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus Yup
 
user1804599
5:25 PM
@Ell Sounds like a horrible job.
 
@Ell the hell
 
Ell
Most days I make money though
2
 
user3010322
Oh, plus wage.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz plus wage I mean
£1 per delivery + hours
 
5:26 PM
see that's what happens when you learn C++
 
why don't you like
I dunno
 
program for money?
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Correlation is not causation.
 
@AlexM. no that would be weird
 
Ell
5:26 PM
@AlexM. I'm trying. I don't know where to apply though :S
 
user1804599
Program pizza delivery robors.
 
@Ell Deliver on a bike!
 
user1804599
@Ell That website where Bracket also helps people for $15k per hour.
 
dont pizza delivery drones already exist?
 
@Ell I'm sure you can make more money with something like oDesk
 
5:27 PM
@rightfold $40*
 
user3010322
Wow
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Woah
 
user3010322
Freetype debug is NOISY.
 
Ell
what's this website called?
 
user1804599
5:27 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Do it full-time.
 
@rightfold not enough people
@Ell Codementor
 
user1804599
Make more people dumb.
 
Ell
I'll give it a try :P
 
bartek is like a premium edition code mentor
 
@BartekBanachewicz How many sessions do you get per week?
 
5:28 PM
like the 64GB iPhone
everyone else is 32GB
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes not many really
@AlexM. actually most of the people charge around $80/hr there
 
really?
 
that's quite a lot
 
user3010322
Well, they're specialists.
 
Ell
5:29 PM
I don't know how to do stuff well enough to codementor it though :S
What happens if it turns out I suck?
 
@ThePhD I'm a proffesional programmer vOv.
 
Ell
I guess nobody will pay me I guess :P
 
@AlexM. highest I saw was 160
 
user3010322
I mean why the wage is so high.
 
@Ell They never even replied to me :P
 
5:30 PM
@Ell I suggest verifying you really know what you want to help people with
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah.
 
user3010322
They usually are thrown into a situation that they might not have all the right resources for and have to figure out a person's problem in a few hours, or less.
 
I see a lot of posts I don't take on because I don't feel competent enough
 
Ell
hmm
 
@Puppy it's ok, you have a job now
 
5:30 PM
@Ell Yeah, don't do like Bartek :P
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz You are also a professional English writer.
 
@rightfold ahaha lol
 
yeah
 
Ell
I'll ask for $2 per 15 minutes
 
@Ell don't go under $5
 
Ell
5:31 PM
How come?
 
Oh dang, quality drops dramatically when I reduce the "near" radius to 20mi
 
people will be suspicious vOv
 
user1804599
I'd ask $5000 per 15 minutes because I'm too shy to talk.
 
Ell
oh wait.
> Mentor's rate starts at $10 for a 15min session.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Might be trying to tell you something.
 
user3010322
5:31 PM
I need to improve my q class.
 
well there are always people who look for the cheapest guy
 
user3010322
I wish I could apply the signed and unsigned keywords to my q class.
 
and there are always people who don't necessarily look for the cheapest guy
 
user3010322
Why can't I? :(
 
user1804599
Don't call a class q.
 
5:32 PM
preferably, you get one in the 2nd category
 
user1804599
It's a terrible name.
 
user3010322
@rightfold But that's the name of it in reality. :c
 
> A consulting engineer with 20+ years of experience
> $50/15 min
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well it's the reason I'm on this app, tbf
 
5:32 PM
@Ell going for the niche of people who don't know what they're doing, and aren't dedicated enough to even pay for competent help? :p
 
@Ell there are people who have less than 10
 
@BartekBanachewicz how much would Scott Meyers charge
 
user3010322
Q is a fixed point number format where the number of fractional bits (and optionally the number of integer bits) is specified. For example, a Q15 number has 15 fractional bits; a Q1.14 number has 1 integer bit and 14 fractional bits. Q format is often used in hardware that does not have a floating-point unit and in applications that require constant resolution. == Characteristics == Q format numbers are (notionally) fixed point numbers (but not actually a number itself); that is, they are stored and operated upon as regular binary numbers (i.e. signed integers), thus allowing standard int...
 
but $2 is absurd
 
Celebrating my success of getting an answer with +5 upvotes and Best Answer. Champagne, anyone?
 
5:33 PM
man I want to see that guy's hair IRL
 
Ell
@jalf sure :P
 
user3010322
I mean, maybe a better name would be fixed_point ...
 
ok that one definitely used to be a man
 
user3010322
Or just fixed<integer_bits, decimal_bits>
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz how many hours a week did you put?
I'll do 24 :P
 
user1804599
5:34 PM
@BartekBanachewicz better than £1 per pizza delivery.
 
Ell
I have no idea what the norm is
@rightfold (+ wages)
 
@Ell as I said, not much. I've been rather picky with the offers and there's not terrible many of them
 
Ell
(I think I made it look worse than it is)
 
user1804599
Play Capture the Pizza with your customers.
 
I wanted to establish a bigger userbase but I was too tired on the evenings to care about that
 
user1804599
5:35 PM
Like Capture the Flag, but with pizzas.
 
I would probably be able to get more long-term mentorships but it's demanding and... yeah
 
wtf no way are you called "Santa"
 
@rightfold that's a good idea
 
maybe after I'm done with my exams
 
and make insta-captures cost $$$
OR force your customers to watch 15 mins of ads
 
Ell
5:36 PM
Worst scenario is I don't get any money. It'll be more profitable than my current job I guess :P
 
for insta-captures
 
@Ell you need to get accepted to be a mentor anyway
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Oh yeah
 
Aw dang this one's friend's hot
 
Ell
worth a shot eh
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit tell'er
 
user3010322
 
user3010322
KEMMING
 
user3010322
KEMMING PLZ
 
user3010322
y u no listen to me
 
user3010322
5:37 PM
shift over just a tiny bit. ;~;
 
the v is like "I'm not touching you! still not touching you!"
 
user1804599
It's "keming," not "kemming."
 
user1804599
I like how googling "keming" reduces letter spacing on the result page.
 
H IG H QUALITY
 
Also, why am I browsing terrible kerning pictures?
 
Blame ThePhD
 
Ell
5:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ohhhhhhh
 
@AlexM. do you have one of these? :P (nsfwish)
 
user1804599
I AM AXLE' WAIFU
 
user1804599
And Xeo is my waifu. <3
 
Ell
seriously whoever invented the word "kerning" did a bloody good job
 
5:47 PM
@Chantola After work :p
 
@Borgleader Does it have another level?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes idk, i dont own one
 
user1804599
 
@rightfold Better for what? Giving your children nightmares?
 
Tattoo artists that can't kern are the worst.
They ruin people's lives.
 
Ell
5:52 PM
@rightfold lol
where can I buy one of those?
my friend would love it
 
user1804599
> my friend
 
user1804599
Yeah, right.
 
Ell
haha
 
Tinder's a bit crashy on Android
 
user1804599
Gabe is on Tinder.
 
5:55 PM
what's the website to put code offline?
to debug?
 
Ell
@Chantola localhost?
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes the tattoo would be horrible even if the text were kerned properly.
 
no, something weird..
 
user1804599
Be less vague.
 
the website to put code on
and people can see it
 
Ell
5:57 PM
@Chantola wat
offline?
 
and you can post the url for other people to see the code
 
Ell
I think you got offline and online mixed up
 
by offline I mean on the web
5
not on the visual studio
someone starred that....
lol
 
user1804599
 

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