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9:01 AM
@thecoshman shit, my 5MB png didn't go trough
 
man that's hard to see
I think it's showing a rather tiny base though
 
There's no reason to use trains on such short distance
 
8 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
I've realized that when I've managed to run the first train
@thecoshman here's the iron merging
sorry for jpgs but they are 5x smaller
 
lol, steel furnaces :P
 
user1804599
I was in the progress of automating my labs.
 
user1804599
9:05 AM
But I need a more advanced assembling machine to make those robot arms.
 
@thecoshman they are really quite efficient with solid fuel
you only need to refuel them once an hour or something
 
You're not making enough power
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol, solid fuel burner pleb :P
 
That yellow bar should always be full :v
 
@CatPlusPlus I know.
 
9:06 AM
And not yellow
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz y u no put steam engines after one another.
 
lol
@rightføld bc I suck
 
INEFFICIENT
 
user1804599
Also automate putting coal into boilers.
 
I've got all my machines stuffed with efficiency modules... which really helps running of sollar.
 
9:07 AM
@rightføld they're not running on coal
@thecoshman yeah I have that tech too
 
Automate it anyway
 
@CatPlusPlus no it's not. a chain of boilers can run a chain of engines. There is a limit though.
 
user1804599
Oh.
 
@BartekBanachewicz wood?
 
SOLID FUEL BIATCH
 
9:08 AM
@thecoshman 7 boilers, 5 engines, but single pump can run two bits like that
 
user1804599
I have three boilers running six steam engines in a row and the power demand satisfaction is 100% for everything.
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh, from oil production?
 
yes. It's very efficient
 
One engine needs like 1.3 boiler
 
I have ten boilers, and ten engines, just sitting there like a museum piece :D
 
user1804599
9:09 AM
I need to make more green stuff but it takes so long.
 
Boilers won't keep up if all engines go peak
You need 4 more
Scrub
 
If only there was a way to get some sort of air scrubber that could reduce pollution...
 
It's called trees
 
user1804599
Pollution is fun.
 
@CatPlusPlus you canny plant them though, and I'm in a barren wasteland of a map.
 
9:10 AM
Yeah
There might be a mod for that
 
@rightføld I'm not a fan of binge pollution.
 
user1804599
I want to pollute more.
 
I really need to science pack 3's being made though, I've nearly run out of the tech I can do with just 1+2
 
user1804599
I need to automate pack 2 but I need lots of pack 2 first.
 
Automate first
You just need assembly machine 2
 
user1804599
9:13 AM
Yes.
 
user1804599
But for that I need pack 2.
 
Plus automating belt production is A Good Idea (tm)
 
user1804599
Otherwise I cannot do research that I need for machine 2.
 
Yes but only like 20
 
user1804599
I should refactor(y) my factory anyway.
 
9:14 AM
Which is doable manually
 
user1804599
It's a mess.
 
user1804599
Niice.
 
Also you don't need green packs for Automation 2
 
user1804599
Oh.
 
user1804599
9:15 AM
Nice.
 
user1804599
Oh cool./
 
user1804599
Just 80 red stuff. I already automated its manufacturing.
 
user1804599
Automating labs will be fun.
 
ooh found a gigantic iron ore place
just near another alien spawner
fuck
 
user1804599
I spawned near two huge copper mines and I filled them with drills.
 
user1804599
9:20 AM
I need to add more furnaces though. There's a bottleneck now and they run very slowly.
 
You need way more iron than copper before tier 3
 
oh fuck I died
got run over by a train
 
rip
lol
 
user1804599
coooool oil
 
9:24 AM
Coal oil
 
user1804599
> Portable Fusion Reactor
 
That's for the modular armor
 
@BartekBanachewicz btw trains can kill you
 
Who knew
 
ooh, that tech tree is nice @Cat
ooooh and then you click on something
 
9:27 AM
Yeah you can get prereqs of everything
 
would be nice if you could mark what you have already... so that it show you what you could do next... and if it could grey out those that require packs you don't have
@CatPlusPlus nice enough looking mod, but like I said, I'll stick to vanilla for now
would also be nice if that tech tree would say what building (if any) you need to use to make the things
 
==> mgmt: [ERROR ] stderr: E: Release file for cdn.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy-backports/Release is expired (invalid since 158d 18h 30min 3s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
Thanks Debian
 
very good job!
I might start looking at logistics network soon...
save me running back and forth to the production line for stuff...
 
user1804599
Also I want electric ovens.
 
user1804599
Coal sucks.
 
9:34 AM
@rightføld they are nice :D
it's all I use now
oooh, I could get night vision!
... I may have just been researching anything and everything without much care or attention...
 
user1804599
Oh I'm almost there.
 
user1804599
Maybe I'll have a few this evening.
 
@thecoshman Needs modular armour :v
How's your red circuits
 
@CatPlusPlus automated, but stopped atm. I've not yet let plastic go full tilt
@CatPlusPlus no it doesn't
at least not research wise...
 
It's a module for it
 
9:40 AM
it's just 50 r+g
 
You can build it but it won't do anything
Unless you put it into the armour
 
oh I see
 
oh, sounds like it works shit anyway :S
oooh, 30% move bonus
I've actually thought about putting in belts just for me to run along to get around :P
 
tom jones has the best male singing voice in the world
beats frank sinatra
 
9:45 AM
woah, so much depends on oil research for the late game
 
user1804599
@AlexM. probably not
 
what do you know about male singing voices
 
user1804599
At least add "of well-known singers"
 
user1804599
There may be chanceless men with better singing voices.
 
well yes I'd have a hard time to prove that for any singer S, TJ > S, that's true
fine, of well known singers
 
9:50 AM
@AlexM. ... what do you mean?
 
user1804599
Or men who are not at all interested in singing.
 
user1804599
(Also called sane men.)
 
@thecoshman it was one of those rhetoric/joke/I don't know the term answers
 
Erm, clearly they are both terrible on account of not being Dani Filth
@rightføld I'd say it's an almost certainty
 
@thecoshman Make a car
Way less resources
 
9:55 AM
@CatPlusPlus oh yeah, I forgot I have that researched
 
user1804599
@Puppy Uh, no?
 
MyClass(MyClass&) = default; // non-const param! is this legal? (seems to work)
 
Xeo
ye
 
10:05 AM
That's how auto_ptr worked
 
Xeo
Legal, yes. Sane, no. Punishable by law? Yes.
 
I once used it to distinguish it from MyClass(T&&)
But not sure if that is recommended.
 
@cat do you process oil where you're jacks are, or have a central area for it?
 
I haven't played with oil yet
 
-1, this is easy to work around with zero-width spaces. j.k. — Mysticial 15 hours ago
@Mysticial ah you bastard stop bringing zero-width spaces to their attention whilst they're working on comment length!
I want to be able to keep writing comments like this:
Yep.​​​​​​​​​​​ — Lightness Races in Orbit 15 hours ago
:D
g'morning
 
10:13 AM
the stack exchange will keep on adding rules until it can't take it anymore
and dies
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion awwww
WANT
 
Yea if I could have pets in my flat, I would have kept one
 
Xeo
Did you see my cat pics from yesterday?
 
yep, I did
nice cats
 
Xeo
10:17 AM
@TonyTheLion shucks :<
 
I'm jealous you can have cats
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion I shall visit them again today \o/
 
When can you take them home?
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Not allowing dogs in flats I can maybe understand - but cats? meh :/
@TonyTheLion Prolly in a week or two - they're underweight, about 2kg, from their previous owners
so they're trying to get their weight up a bit first
Until then, I'll visit them as often as I can
 
oh right, makes sense
 
Xeo
10:18 AM
To get them accustomed to me
 
it'll be nice to come home and find someone's happy you're home
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Change flat! Also, keep two - keeping one when you're gone for >8h / day is meh
tis being the reason I get two
 
I work from home most days though
 
Xeo
ah, ok
 
@Xeo double damage!
to the apartment that is
 
10:20 AM
Kitteh could help me code
 
Xeo
@AlexM. To my HNNG-receptors
 
yea next year when i get my own flat I might get a cat
 
If you keep a human as a pet it can take care of your other pets when you're not home.
 
Cheaper to get two cats
 
And the award for weirdest username goes to... meta.stackoverflow.com/users/531954/…
 
10:22 AM
@StackedCrooked Don't remind me about having to find a gf
:(
 
@AlexM. it's getting quite silly
 
I'm really bad at it
 
@AlexM. We can only hope
 
they're taking the airport security approach of incrementally banning this and banning that in order to steer behaviours in a very specific direction, and it's retarded
 
Say I was writing a string class (the horror!) would it make sense for the "substring" function to return a "stringref" or is that inherently bad?
 
10:23 AM
it's also very nannying and that aspect is starting to piss me off a bit
I do get the desire to automate the moderation burden
@rubenvb yes and no
 
burdens on our shoulders
 
Solving social problems with technology is a very jeff thing
5
 
@rubenvb I would worry that your users would be surprised by it because, although it's a good idea, not many other string classes have done it, historically
@CatPlusPlus yep
I also kind of wish you'd gauged community opinion first. You're not Jeff! (AFAIK) — Lightness Races in Orbit 10 hours ago
:D
 
user1804599
@TheForestAndTheTrees wtf that meta logo
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
10:24 AM
What are they doing.
 
Xeo
@rubenvb Do slice and rslice - copy and ref, respectively
 
155
Q: Feedback Requested: Stack Overflow design update

JinAs you can see, Meta.SO looks a bit different today. Over the years I've gotten a lot of requests to "redesign" Stack Overflow. I've always felt SO's site design had good usability and was very functional. However, I did and do agree, aesthetically, it could use some polish. Today's new Meta the...

try to keep up
 
user1804599
Looked fine before.
 
user1804599
But yeah, paying those designers anyway so they gotta do something.
 
there are sites that are close to graduation which could use a redesign, and are on hold right now
e.g. code review
 
10:31 AM
@Xeo Yeah, that's what I thought, tradition is against it :-p. Thanks! //CC @Lightness
exp(pi i) This is a complex issue indeed! — rubenvb 1 min ago
I know, I stole an idea.
Still valid.
Also note, I did not actually upvote the answer :-p
 
@AlexM. it's funny how CR is still in beta
 
from what I've read they already know they'll be graduating soon
but they're on hold because other sites have to be attended to first
I mean they received the final confirmation
 
@Xeo But on the other hand: if a string object isn't const, shouldn't it be "expected" that the returned subset of characters is modifyable?
But maybe I'm going against tradition in that sense too...
 
user1804599
@rubenvb That by-mod proposal has a score larger than negative infinity. That means it will be implemented.
 
Mutable strings suck
 
10:34 AM
@Mike " Besides the atrocious spelling and grammar, looks like their willing to take down infringing content.." they're* — Lightness Races in Orbit 6 secs ago
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think you will be surprised that reason seems to have won over unnecessary template wankery (this time) stackoverflow.com/a/27036321/85371
@rubenvb Java stopped doing that javaadvent.com/2012/12/…
 
user1804599
@rubenvb if you make it return stringref you have to keep around the larger string all the time even if you don't need all that anymore.
 
ahaha, I just looked over some of my code from some 6 or 7 years ago
struct boxes {some properties for a box here};
boxes box[5000];
 
@rightføld that could be solved by some fancy refcounting, no?
 
I was thinking sideways back then I see
 
10:44 AM
But make everything non-deterministic wrt allocations...
 
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@AlexM. My classmates pluralised names of baseclasses because they were terrible at programming they had multiple subclasses.
 
user1804599
@rubenvb and copy-on-destroy.
 
@rightføld yeah, I added that in my mind :-p
 
@PaulDraper it's actually reading hunter2hunter2hunter2hunter2 here — sehe 11 hours ago
 
user1804599
If I have a 500MB string and I select a substring of 50B I don't want to carry around 500MB-50B of data that I don't need.
 
10:45 AM
haha
 
So fancy pants refcounting and stringref bookkeeping probably doesn't outweigh the simplicity of constructing a new string.
 
@rubenvb The reason for java to change seems that on average they get much better performance doing escape analysis these days see also jaxenter.com/the-state-of-string-in-java-49450.html
@rubenvb Especially when you can figure out that can be done stacklocal, no dynamic allocations
 
It would mean some form of garbage collection, wouldn't it?
 
avoidance of it, really (by static analysis)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I hacked @sehe's account now
 
Xeo
10:51 AM
@rubenvb Don't go there - mutable vs immutable implicit stuff is friggin confusing
even just trying to reconcile mutable with immutable strings hurts
 
@AlexM. nice
3
A: What term means "all of the words one knows"?

ermanenThere is also a colloquial word for this: wordrobe. It is like a wardrobe of words. a person's vocabulary She reads dictionaries to build up her wordrobe. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wordrobe

 
@Xeo but C++ std::string is mutable right?
Or only slightly?
 
Slightly mutable with a dash of crappy interface
 
lol
 
user1804599
 
10:53 AM
I don't know why I'm taking that as an example...
 
@rightføld which comment?
 
user1804599
ahaha I've never heard this before this is hilarious — Lightness Races in Orbit 4 mins ago
 
Robot's drunk
 
Xeo
How did that get relevant
 
can I get my pc to boot off my mobile phone?
if so, how?
 
10:59 AM
With PXE
 
I'm not drunk.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes iow, you're drunk.
 
I have been sober since two Saturdays ago.
 
ffs spend ages writing shit to go ahead and click cancel! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
11:02 AM
@thecoshman Good job
 
@CatPlusPlus time for a shorter version...
 
user1804599
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ?
why oh gees?
 
@rightføld yay let's post famous quotes from 20 years ago
ITT we've lost @rightfold to bash.org for the day
> *** BlackAdder has been kicked my t0rbad ( )
shit, never spotted that before
 
I am reading this laughable newspaper article: 'Unless you move in the right circles, you're most likely unaware of the existence of internet businesses that allow the well-heeled to do the same kind of things average people do online, except without having to come into contact with "poor" people.'
 
11:09 AM
this is still one of my favourites
> #835030 +(20980)- [X]
> <Khassaki> HI EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!
> <Judge-Mental> try pressing the the Caps Lock key
> <Khassaki> O THANKS!!! ITS SO MUCH EASIER TO WRITE NOW!!!!!!!
> <Judge-Mental> fuck me
 
really? your tenants are going to be 'poor' people, so are your employees
without 'poor' people, rich people are nothing
dumbasses everywhere
 
@chmod711telkitty watttt
 
And you thought rightfold was the one lost in bash.org.
 
11:11 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes woe is me :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit some retard has written this ... possibly by a bunch retards
 
you bastards
getting me stuck there
 
with that said, I <3 retards, they are so dumb ... makes an average me look so ... intelligent :p
 
user1804599
tetris is so unrealistic
 
> #908184 +(10255)- [X]
> <Twig> I just had an argument with a girl I know. She was saying how it's unfair that if a guy fucks a different girl every week, he's a legend, but if a girl fucks just two guys in a year, she's a slut. So in response I told her that if a key opens lots of locks, then it's a master key. But if a lock is opened by lots of keys, then it's a shitty lock. That shut her up.
;)
relevant to our your decent discussions on feminism
 
11:23 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think that is a good joke but a bad analogy. TBH, I do not think of girls that way, as being sluts or indecent if they want sex as much as men do. :)
 
#450882 +(911)- [X]

<BlackMoon> heh. kinda funny
<BlackMoon> we used to use internet over phone
<BlackMoon> now we use phone over internet
<DooD> IT'S SOVIET RUSSIA!
<DooD> in soviet russia, internet phones you!
 
@TonyTheLion :D
 
> Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes sys reqs pcgamer.com/…
interesting, this is the first game that I see that doesn't bump up the processor requirements in the recommended section to an i7
 
that moment when you take an epic shit
 
11:42 AM
meh, grandma called again yesterday
 
user1804599
CPU is not very important.
 
asked me when I'll be getting married
 
there's this worry that she'll die before I get married
 
user1804599
also why does it need so much RAM
 
11:42 AM
which is probably what will happen
 
user1804599
PS3 has 500MB RAM and the game runs fine on that console.
 
@rightføld the RAM requirements are ok
 
I'm lucky my grandparents don't keep asking me that
 
they're normal for this generation of games
 
user1804599
Also I should buy PS4 next year.
 
11:43 AM
Half of my grandparents already died before I got married, albeit one lasted until 102
 
@TonyTheLion it's fucking annoying
because I get asked all the time
it's like their FOV on the world only extends that far
 
getting a house, fucking someone, making kids then dying
 
"I'll die and I won't see you in your own home."
wtf does that even mean
I'm renting ffs
 
11:45 AM
@CatPlusPlus @R.MartinhoFernandes so erm... is moderator like an additional set of privileges in discourse?
 
sounds like a pigeon, they get a ' house' /nest, fucking another pigeon, making many baby pigeons then dying
we are all insignificant in the grand scale of things
 
fascinating
 
user1804599
lol "automate" factor.io
 
11:50 AM
I look at the brighter side, this is what makes life awesome - you can be whatever you want to be and do whatever you want to do ... because, well, we are insignificant remember? It wouldn't much difference either ways ... & life is great ^_^
 
Well besides the fact that I personally find it utterly morally reprehensible, on a more polite note please feel free to join in the discussion here. — Lightness Races in Orbit 15 mins ago
zing
 
@thecoshman It's all fucked up.
 
user3010322
Psst.
 
No help vampiring.
 
user3010322
I'm not help vampiring, I have a question about ogonek. .-.
 
user3010322
11:55 AM
You've got this 'state' variable that always gets passed to the decoder... but it's an empty struct. I've been searching the codebase and I can't find a derived form of it anywhere, so I'm not sure what it's for.
 
Not all decoders are stateful probably
 
user3010322
I guess so.
 
user3010322
Uggh even in the beta VC++ ogonek doesn't compile. But at least I'm learning a lot porting it.
 
btw Robot you got 24 points not 14
 
I deleted the stateful encodings that I had.
 
11:59 AM
What is with you today
 
@CatPlusPlus Gee, I am terrible.
 

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