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Xeo
Hm... Factorio's pretty fun, but not "I-need-this-now" fun for me. So much stuff to automate, though...
 
Factorio is scary-fun for me.
I already have a time sink game right now.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Factorio sounds like a math game for nerds
 
so right up robot's street then
 
Oh. Not @wilx. It's @VáclavZeman. Approved your account on discrap.
 
Xeo
12:05 AM
Automate all the things.
@R.MartinhoFernandes DF?
 
Xeo
Civ? Total War?
ah
 
hmm
 
I'm the biggest TW fan.
 
might employ function_traits.
 
Xeo
12:06 AM
you what
 
And CA got back the old days awesomeness with Rome 2 so I'm totally hooked.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes you've played?
 
AddHandler<Parse::True>(ExpressionHandlers, [](const Parse::True* tru, Analyzer& a, Type* lookup) {
 
witness duplication between template argument and first argument type.
 
12:07 AM
More than I should.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Honestly, I'm coming to the conclusion that TW was never very good, I was just too young to notice before.
 
You suck. I don't care.
2
300 hours says it's quite good.
 
fair enough
 
To be honest, half the series sucked balls.
 
Xeo
@Puppy [](auto const* tru, ...)
 
12:09 AM
there was definitely a slump after Medieval.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes factorio
 
But Rome 2 has all the nice things I liked from before and it's in my favourite period.
 
@Xeo Requires a compiler with more punch than I have (also it's pretty unnatural I think to state the function argument type in a different template argument instead of in the signature)
 
Never a big fan of elephants but they don't seem too overpowered now.
 
Xeo
@Puppy VS2015 preview has it
 
12:10 AM
I had to put Preview back on the shelf
it seemed sweet but couldn't compile LLVM.
 
Xeo
aww
 
it did seem quite sweet, though.
 
Xeo
anyways kids, don't do function_traits.
It'll ruin your life. Just look at what happened to @ThePhD
 
especially their deleted-function diagnostics, which are a lot better than VS2013
and possibly better than what I got out of clang-cl.
 
@Xeo 2015 preview? Did 2014 get delayed to next year?
 
12:11 AM
2014 is dead.
 
But Factorio is quite enticing.
 
@Borgleader It's 19th November. Take a guess.
 
@Borgleader there was never a 2014.
It was "14"
 
Xeo
Quick question: Why is it past 1am?
 
anyway let's be fair, it's not like I don't know the limitations of function_traitsing it up.
 
Xeo
12:12 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes They did jump from 12 to 14, didn't they
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh... right
 
@Xeo because I had three gin tonics.
 
@Xeo Because it's not past 2 AM yet.
 
13 is an unlucky number
 
@JerryCoffin Nothing good happens after 2 AM
 
Xeo
12:13 AM
welp, time for sleep
 
Xeo
since Star Wars tomorrow has been cancelled, I guess I can go visit the cats again
 
Ell
does 2015 preview have concepts?
 
@Xeo Are you turning into a cat lady? o.o
 
12:14 AM
Just realised Stross meeting and game night are in the same day.
Dammit.
 
@rightføld you were totally right zsh is great
 
I haven't played board games in weeks.
 
Ell
woo my robot is building for me
 
I'm not building shit for you
 
@Ell wut?
 
12:18 AM
Slaver!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Obviously you're not his robot!
 
I'm everybody's robot!
 
Ell
 
SA piece of shit
 
@Ell what game is this?
 
Ell
12:19 AM
@Borgleader Factorio
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Remember what happened to the marketing people from Sirius Cybernetics.
 
Logged in to change password, changed password, logged out automatically, can't understand the password.
 
@Jefffrey s/understand/remember/?
 
Trying to retrieve password, SA sends link to reset, I reset, new password has been sent, try new password, error message: "password reset was requested more than 24 hours ago"
 
12:20 AM
@Jerry my title in the discrap forum is "Plastic pal who's fun to be with".
 
What the fuck do they do with all the money?
Just fucking hire some competent programmer FFS.
@Borgleader No, the software says it's the wrong password.
 
I copied and pasted from my password manager. So I doubt that was wrong.
 
lol competent programmer.
 
@Jefffrey something something everything is broken
 
12:22 AM
lol
tried again, finally succeeded to reset password, tried to set 64-chars long password again, fails to recognize it again.
I swear to god, if I see a max-length attribute on that password field i'm going to kill someone.
Thanks God I don't have to go to jail.
> By default the maxlength of the password field is set to 50 characters, so that would be the limit (unless you change it on your own forum).
> Can you imagine trying to remember a password, that is 50 characters long?
Oh FUCK YOU
 
so. Interface. Implementation. Interface in this case is a form. Implementation in this case is an object that actually does the stuff the form looks like it is doing.
Now, trying to figure out which is the better way to make the two independent. Should each field and checkbox on the form change a variable in the object, then the object's functions would have no parameters, as if they were buttons on the form? OR should the object's functions take the values of the fields and checkboxes as parameters?
the latter seems like the better way, and it is what I am doing.
 
Wall of text.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, being from Sirius Cybernetics is fine--but you definitely don't want to be mistaken for a marketing person robot!
 
I have GPP
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It is just long enough to get walled that way.
It is not actually that long at all.
 
12:28 AM
> The request to reset your password was made more than 24 hours ago, so it has expired. To resubmit the request, please use this form.
oh god
 
I have this pain down the diodes of my stomach.
 
but it actually log you in
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Just don't get me angry, or I'll shorten "Martinho" to "Marvin".
 
SA is very well coded
 
lol catisms
 
12:30 AM
why on hearth would you put a max length on a password
 
i don't wanna know actually
don't tell me
 
last i checked, hotmails password limit is like... 12-14 characters
 
if you really want to have a limit on passwords: 1) tell me 2) put a fucking error message when I try to go over the limit
@Borgleader yes, windows is great at passwords
yahoo too IIRC
 
@Jefffrey IRC to Yahoo. Over.
 
12:34 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'll try it over again for you.
Interface. Implementation. Interface in this case is a form. Implementation in this case is an object that actually does the stuff the form looks like it is doing.
Now, trying to figure out which is the better way to make the two independent. Should each field and checkbox on the form change a variable in the object, then the object's functions would have no parameters, as if they were buttons on the form?
OR should the object's functions take the values of the fields and checkboxes as parameters?
the latter seems like the better way, and it is what I am doing. But I am curious if anyone has better ideas?
 
This is cool (Warning: may kill Firefox, use Chrome)
 
wtf is this what have you done to my browsdr
 
its doom in fragment shader :)
 
Ell
duke nukem?
oh :P
 
@Ell Duke Nukem For Never.
 
12:47 AM
> The maximum password length allowed on this or any other vBulletin vB4 forum login is precisely 50 characters. Some bugger should be fired for that limit, in my opinion.
prolly
 
@corvid it means, more or less, "ooh, this sounds professional and everyone has this as a requirement, better add it too"
 
@Jefffrey Is that... Anne Hathaway? :3
 
@Borgleader yes
It's from interstellar
 
I wanted to zoom in on her and make one of those name jokes (Hathaway -> Hathnear) but it didn't turn out well :(
 
12:58 AM
@AlexM. Anne Hat, Anne Hathaway, just like Reese Witherspoon -> Reese Withouterspoon
@Jefffrey Best Catwoman ever
 
I don't like her face. I guess that's fine though. She prolly doesn't like mine. So we are even.
 
@Borgleader I make a pretty sexy catwoman.
 
I used to like Michelle Pfeiffer but I think she must be embalmed by now
 
I knew what embalmed meant before looking it up.
Some weird shit is going on here.
I've never met the term before in my life.
 
Ell
I want to draw some inheritance diagrams
 
1:02 AM
is Madonna still alive too?
she could share a pyramid with Michelle I guess
 
Of course she is
How old do you think are?
 
I dunno, lots of years old
 
Also Michelle Pfeiffer is only 50+ years old.
 
I was really young when I was seeing them on the TV
 
And now you are still young.
 
1:04 AM
it was like, almost 12 years ago
and they looked old enough then too
 
You are 21yo FFS. Stop trying to look like an old fart.
I should sleep.
 
I'm not trying to look like an old fart
 
I cannot stand late hours like I used to.
 
I can't spawn some sort of perspective that an old fart would have and use that in place of my own
 
In the good old times, I used to go to bed at 6am.
 
1:06 AM
12 years relative to my age is a lot
do you think I'll stop being able to not sleep when I hit 22 too?
 
prolly
What do you think about consensual sex between a 13yo and a 21yo?
 
it's been a while since I didn't sleep for a whole night though, hmm
but that's mainly because I set this 7-8 hours/night routine
because of work it's hard to find the time to sleep for 12 hours then stay awake until the day after
like I used to
@Jefffrey as long as it doesn't affect me, people can do anything they want
 
They can also rape other people?
 
@Ell Me too. Specifically, I want diagrams where I inherit from somebody rich.
 
@Jefffrey well what would you want me to do, go Batman on their asses
 
1:10 AM
I'm talking about morality here.
What you think is right.
 
let me use empathy
 
Ell
@Jefffrey children retards and animals screw up any moral system I can come up with
 
yes being raped is probably very nasty
 
Ell
I think its very difficult
 
I think that it's pretty immoral that a 21yo is able to fuck a 13yo.
 
Ell
1:11 AM
@Jefffrey why?
 
not if you're in GoT!
well, the middle ages
 
Because it's against the law.
They should kill them pedofiles.
 
are you abyxbaiting right now
 
maybe
I just want a discussion
If we all agree then there's nothing to discuss.
So I need to be the 10th man here.
 
Ell
@Jefffrey things that are against the law are imorral?
Which law in particular?
And why?
 
1:12 AM
I was jk
 
Ell
Oh
 
well there's the thing that someone getting raped might begin to live with the trauma
 
> Anyone who thinks these guys on this show are pedophiles is wrong. They are ephebophiles.
A pedophile is attracted to children. Meaning pre-puberty. Ephebophiles are attracted to adolescents or teenagers. Which is natural in males. Women are at the healthiest age for pregnancy between the ages of 15ish to 25ish. Our body wants a mate who will make the healthiest children possible. Sex is always about reproduction whether you want a child or not. Why do women shave all their hair off (except for the hair on their head) and wear make up? So they can look young and healthy. They want to disg
 
which might affect his/her productivity
and make her contribution to mankind suboptimal
 
1:14 AM
I said consensual sex.
 
rapists are the enemies of human development
 
@Ell Most laws have to align, at least generally, with what the majority of citizens view as moral, or enforcement tends to become prohibitively expensive, leading to economic problems for the country (E.g,. Soviet Union).
 
they should be eliminated to not hinder our process of evolution
 
lol
 
Ell
@Jefffrey yep I think to catch a predator is pretty horrific and immoral in itsself
 
1:15 AM
it's dumb
 
Ell
It makes me angry really
That they are labelled as being so disgusting because they arent
 
@Ell Honey Boo Boo makes me angry =/ (not so much the show, but the child pageant stuff, I find that stuff beyond ridiculous)
 
Ell
Although, I do think that at the minute the most pragmatic thing is to put an age limit on certain things
 
(only tangeantially related, since were talking about american shows that make us angry)
 
meh, morals
see what they do, they create endless discussions
 
Ell
1:17 AM
Nobody has yet come up with a moral system that is internally and externally consistent when it comes to the less intelligent & experienced
 
@Ell How 'bout if we just bring in Logan's Run, and put an age limit on living?
 
@JerryCoffin 4 years sounds about right
thats a long enough life, granted youre born an adult
 
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@Borgleader How would you know? You haven't experience adulthood at all yet. :-)
 
@JerryCoffin Not sure if you missed the replicant reference or couldn't pass up the opportunity to burn me
 
1:24 AM
@Borgleader How could I pass up an opportunity to burn you? Besides, I'm the one running off with Sean Young, so I don't care about you lesser beings who only get 4 years.
Well, "don't care" might be putting it a little too nicely--I'll hunt you down and kill you without a moment's remorse.
 
oh neat, according to our new president's close ones, he is "a sensitive man" who "loves cats and winter holidays", or so the news say
well I dunno about that, but he's certainly working hard towards getting every politician the people hate behind bars lol
 
@AlexM. "I'm probably going to try to scrap the current government, but you shouldn't worry--I'm nice to my cat."
 
it's not particularly hard, it so happens that the most hated guys also have enough bad shit on their record to be accused of at a trial
@JerryCoffin maybe cats will become first class citizens of Romania
anyway, I wonder how the guy will turn out to be like in the end
he's too new to everything for people to have things to dislike about him
i.e. he was elected because the other guy was a really really bad choice
 
Ell
Politics sucks
 
I think it was an interesting thing to see tbh
so much hatred gathered together for the other guy caused people to vote like crazy
votes were faked (provably) on the loser's side, but they couldn't keep up with the huge amounts of people voting against
the reaction was especially strong with the Romanians outside Romania, on the basis that the other guy's party caused them to leave Romania in the first place
and they didn't want him to become president
the loser's slogan was "the president that unites", and in a way, he managed that, he united the people inside Romania with the people outside Romania against himself
it was also the first election with a result on which the internet had a huge influence, basically all protests, ideas and so on that contributed to the current result started on the internet
people were like "Klaus should thank Facebook right now"
so yeah, it was interesting to see imo
maybe 5 years from now the elections will take place on facebook
and votes become likes
the guy with the most likes becomes president
whoa.
 
1:39 AM
shit I'm sorry I didn't realise this was fucking LiveJournal
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit LiveJournal?
 
Ell
Michael oliver smith
 
what's LiveJournal
 
A place where you tell your life.
 
oh my. children.
 
1:40 AM
Old stuff.
 
LiveJournal (LJ), or Zhivoy Zhurnal (Живой Журнал) / ZheZhe (ЖЖ) in Russia, is a social networking service where Internet users can keep a blog, journal or diary, and is also the name of the free and open source server software which runs the LiveJournal website and online community. A wide variety of political pundits also use the service for political commentary, particularly in Russia, where it partners with the online newspaper Gazeta.ru. As with many other social networks, a wide variety of public figures use the network. LiveJournal was started on April 15, 1999 by American programmer Brad...
 
> LiveJournal was started on April 15, 1999 by American programmer Brad Fitzpatrick as a way of keeping his high school friends updated on his activities.
 
Ell
I don't get how web apps keep their model data and their HTML synchronised
 
Kids these days use Facebook or someth8ngsomething
 
traditionally it looked much like Alex's soliloquy above :)
 
1:41 AM
That was very well done, autocorrect.
 
oh, I read about the guy in a book called Coders at Work or something
I think he was the one with the night club
but fuck if I remember
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I find that kids these days find Facebook uncool. It's almost amusing how "generation" now means a 2-3 year age gap. It's all about Instagram now, apparently. Which seems bizarre due to the requirement of uploading an image, but there we go.
Four or five years ago it was Twitter. Three years before that, Facebook.
 
@AlexM. lol
 
They very quickly go out of fashion with the new youth.
 
Ell
Yep
 
1:42 AM
Man, I'm sober again.
 
@AlexM. Are you sure it wasn't Men At Work
 
When I meet chicks now who are just eight years younger than me, they gawk at the idea that I post on Facebook each day. They think it's a granddad thing to do. Which is bizarre to me since I've been on it since it launched in the UK and that was "only" 8-9 years ago.
Then again, those kids were 13 at the time, so.
 
Jamie Zawinski
this is the guy with the nightclub
fuck if I'll ever remember them
 
People eight years younger than me are not usually very nice conversation participants.
19yos are usually boring or annoying.
 
also wtf Facebook being outdated already?
what alternatives are there?
I mean what do kids use in the UK
 
1:45 AM
My youngest friend is... oh.
2yo.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes hey!
 
because in Romania they use Facebook
 
Ell
What don't people like about doxygen?
 
I don't like the fact that someone at my workplace decided that the best way to improve the codebase is to sprinkle doxygen comments all over the place, and stopped at that
now the whole thing is a mess of redundant comments and worse, inconsistencies between comments and code because nobody tried to maintain the comments when changes happened
but "doxygen comments are good, use them"
 
1:51 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit flavor of the week
 
@Ell The fact that people believe it might be adequate, so they use it instead of writing useful documentation.
 
Ell
I'm having a very casual bash at writing a doc thing is the reason I'm asking
 
I like the way D docs work
an unit's unit test code becomes part of the documentation, in the examples section
less talk more showing
just my kind of docs
code that makes sense + clear examples
that's the way to go for proper software
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes want to give something web/HTML a go
 
2:01 AM
Fuck discocaching.
Why the fuck does it cache categories.
 
Ell
I'm thinking of what c++ specific stuff to put in it
I guess concepts. Maybe meta functions or whatever luc and rapptz decided on naming things
 
2:21 AM
Oh, they changed how trust levels work. It is now possible to have people not climb trust levels automatically.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That sounds more like "they fixed (at least a little of) how trust levels didn't work."
 
Yeah, pretty much.
It's impressive how far beyond wrong they managed to go.
@JerryCoffin However, AFAICT you need to lock trust levels on each user individually. Everyone starts with the automatic climbing.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "I don't trust you." "Oh, but you do, whether you want to or not!"
 
It's all a very elaborate joke.
lol, this caches everything like mad.
And by "like mad" I mean that it has no concern for consistency of user experience at all.
It's one thing to have your avatar taking a while to update.
It's completely different to have one page saying one thing and another something else entirely.
It caches user counts.
But only on one page.
 
3:02 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes There are only three difficult problems in computing: cache coherency and off-by-one errors.
 
3:24 AM
whoa new theme on meta
that'll be the new look for SO
 
That is one sharp typeface.
 
 
2 hours later…
5:00 AM
 
5:49 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks. Now I will actually have to read the rules. :)
 
Got an email from Apple - ready for apple watch. I was like 'nope' - my prediction is that apple watch is going to be doing as well as google glasses & google glasses wearers are growing in numbers as fast as the unicorns in river Nile ...
 
@chmod711telkitty Can you ignore a religious command like this? :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes woah
I don't think I've seen that in changelogs though
Maybe I missed it
Changing vertical tabs on admin page still scrolls the page all the way up
 
@chmod711telkitty I'm going to guess that the Apple watch does better that Google Glass has so far--not because it's any better, but because Apple is much better at marketing, and has a fan-base that assures almost anything they produce is at least moderately successful, regardless of how bad it is.
 
wow there's a setting to disable that shitty "create some posts maybe" banner
I think that's new
 
6:02 AM
@VáclavZeman I am a super intelligent, ultra fit & diversely knowledged indidel& I am damn proud of it!</shameless self promotion>
 
@chmod711telkitty :D
 
infidel*
@JerryCoffin I used to complain about windows a lot ... that is until I started using apple products. PC might not be ideal, but at least it's cheap. The worst you can do is to pay twice as much for as sh!tty product ...
Nowadays I <3 my PC ...
 
6:51 AM
 
7:08 AM
Where are all those pick up artists? I was reading this article subtitled "No one is immune from a pick up artist" & I thought to myself, how come I have never came across one?
maybe elite trolls are immune to pick up artists since we are higher up on the food chain ~_~
 
@chmod711telkitty Most are married.
 
@JerryCoffin did you upgrade yourself from a pick up artist to an elite troll? :p
 
7:45 AM
@chmod711telkitty hehehe
 
@chmod711telkitty that sounds like what a pickup-artist's victim would say
@TonyTheLion dem last 2 lines
 
@Jefffrey hehe
 
Launchpad is really bad at images
Resizing avatars is too hard, the image must be EXACTLY this many pixels
 
I think I like San Francisco.
And also omgwhatthefuckiamlateseeyoulater
 
8:11 AM
> so deranged it borders on self-parody: "I'm just romping through the streets, just grabbing girls' heads, just like, head, pfft, on the dick. Head, on the dick," as he so charmingly puts it himself.
well well. I can see why you'd be afraid to miss that o.O
That's one twisted article
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion s/Tramp/Trap/
 
Also you have to ask support to remove projects ugh
 
morning all
@R.MartinhoFernandes erm... I just realised. You can only have one parallel turn. You've had your one, and now are trying to take a second. It doesn't say you can do that.
 
8:32 AM
One at the time
 
> Every active player may start at most one parallel turn apiece.
which also means that I can't have mine either, as I'm not the active player.
Well... I guess it depends what 'active player' means, it seems to mostly be defined as the player who's turn it is.
 
It makes no sense with that interpretation :v
 
@Jefffrey good job guy.
 
Also I guess it means you can have only one parallel turn ever
 
@CatPlusPlus that's my first (and main) point. The debatable part is what 'active player' means.
Though I guess robot did cancel his first attempt at a previous turn...
Discus here @CatPlusPlus @R.MartinhoFernandes @Jefffrey
 
8:40 AM
can't sleep... must refine oil...
 
I spent ages last night building up my factory for a nice clean production line... to then notice a fuck of lake in the way :S
so now I have to take a bend to avoid it and split my factory in two
Also, apparently you can shoot away solid rock
 
user1804599
@thecoshman ahem
 
so I might want to make some beefier guns :D
@rightføld noooo!!! you waited didn't you!!
 
user1804599
NO
 
Also I can't use VS community
> 20 GB of available hard disk space
5400 RPM hard disk drive
 
8:48 AM
o_0 you have to use a shit slow drive?
 
Well I suppose it's 5400 or more
still, my disk doesn't spin vOv
 
that's my point
HHD is shit slow
 
inb4 not if you buy 6 of them
 
user1804599
not if you buy 6 of them
 
6 of them is just 6 lots of shit slow
you need some laxative RAID if you want to make six of them not shit slow
 
user1804599
8:52 AM
I raid your mother.
 
@CatPlusPlus lo and behold what Stack Overflow looks like since they vectorized their css sprites: i.stack.imgur.com/ukWo3.gif
Historically, Opera has been the browser with the most advanced svg support (including shading and effects)
 
user1804599
woot
 
user1804599
factorio works on my work machine
 
@rightføld turn off safe search maybe
 

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