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7:00 PM
I think we should try to improve languages we have already
instead of spawning new ones
fragmentation isn't good for developers
I am a proud terralang contributor, ha!
 
@BartekBanachewicz really slow, usually, or it jerks.
 
@BartekBanachewicz well, things like coffee script are nice. it converts to JS, so can just be used, but doesn't suck to work with.
 
@Pawnguy7 "you're doing it wrong"
 
@jalf both I guess :P
 
@A.H. always has been the case
 
7:01 PM
@thecoshman except you still target the same shitty platform being web. And now that we have ASM.js, you can take any LLVM-able language for that, so no big deal
 
@BartekBanachewicz Quite likely, but I wasn't sure if it was I was misuising what you had.
 
You mean, C, C++, Objective-C and... yeah, what else
 
@BartekBanachewicz well, I like the idea of developing things that people can just start using in the browser, but actually developing for it sucks ass
 
user1804599
let cnst = fn x { fn # { x } } in
let rightfoldWillFinishProject = cnst(false) in
console.log(rightfoldWillFinishProject('gear'))
 
@sehe Terra :V
 
user1804599
7:04 PM
@sehe Wide ^^
 
Terra for js... urfff
@not-rightfold urffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
 
user1804599
@sehe uniform resource fuckator?
 
i now realize some things on here are stupid too :|
 
@not-rightfold template <typename T...> static constexpr bool rightfoldWillFinishProject(T&&...) { return false; }
 
user1804599
7:06 PM
lol constexpr
 
user1804599
xD
 
xD
@EiyrioüvonKauyf law of preservation of misery
 
user1804599
But -1 need moar pattern matching.
 
user1804599
Hmm, let id = &1 in ….
 
user1804599
7:07 PM
> statements
 
ok not-statements
 
user1804599
I need syntax for assignment in Gear.
 
user1804599
I was thinking about ass foo.bar = baz because ass is three letters just like let.
 
how is ass different from let?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I hope it's online and not downloaded :/
 
user1804599
7:09 PM
@StackedCrooked let introduces a new variable. ass mutates an existing variable.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol Cheers.
Vim commands are not scrambled, that's compression
 
@not-rightfold why does it need a prefix? a = b doesn't work?
 
@not-rightfold Again?
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Because reassigning is bad and therefore should be ugly and verbose.
 
@BartekBanachewicz the blending seems to be working now, just... not the scrolling.
 
user1804599
7:10 PM
@sehe Ja:3
 
@not-rightfold But isn't reassigning exactly what ass does?
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked It is.
 
Ah I hadn't read the second half of your sentence.
 
user1804599
The problem is that it's needed.
 
user1804599
For example, if you want to change the innerHTML property of a DOM element.
 
7:11 PM
Either that or I changed the variables incorrectly.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Cookies out of date/synch. Login again. It has been known to happen with silent serverside upgrades, but I haven't noticed anything like that on my end
 
user1804599
Sure, you could write that part in JavaScript and call it from Gear, but fuck that.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf You know, magical thinking is rather primitive. I don't think I want to see your coding style
 
I don't dislike the way Clojure allows calling standard Java library code:
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes agreed ^^^^
 
7:13 PM
(defn center-in-screen [frame]
  (let [  dim (.getScreenSize(Toolkit/getDefaultToolkit))
          w (.width (.getSize frame))
          h (.height (.getSize frame))
          x (int (/ (- (.width dim) w) 2))
          y (int (* 0.75(/ (- (.height dim) h) 2)))]
  (.setLocation frame x y)))
 
You will have to revoke that.
One does not simply use "I like" and "Java" in one sentence*
* unless it reads: "I like to replace Java with XXX"
 
Much better
 
user1804599
HEY DON'T MENTION THE J-WORD!
 
user1804599
I should download Delain and put it on my phone.
 
user1804599
7:15 PM
> goto fucktimkuik.org
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit RAID -1 mind blown I didn't know that existed.
 
(/ (- (.width dim) w) 2) is much more convoluted than (dim.width - w)/2 though.
 
@not-rightfold woah. boatload of unwanted popups
 
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@StackedCrooked ((&1.width <| dim) - w) / 2
 
@BartekBanachewicz How does the board explains why you won't choose to make your own XMPP binding?
 
user1804599
7:17 PM
@sehe Your fault you got redirected to the wrong random TPB mirror.
 
@TonyTheLion You know, it's probably not legal to stay under that bridge
 
user1804599
Fuck.
 
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<| is broken.
 
@sehe tr;dr please
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Looks cool. I'm afraid it'll have to wait a good week, we're going camping.
@thecoshman mmm?
He doesn't, that's the good thing. He has content
(and he has catch phrases)
 
7:22 PM
@sehe explain it please....
 
@thecoshman what's td;dr stand for?
 
user1804599
too dumb; didn't recall
 
@sehe ¬_¬ ergh... it's what you sat right before you get overwhelmed with an immense desire to shrink away from the world in shame
 
7 mins ago, by thecoshman
@sehe tr;dr please
^ ok, no typo's this time
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
7:26 PM
I should transfer these files over Wi-Fi.
 
'tl;dr' stands for 'too long, didn't read'. Often used in a sort of <big wall of text>tl;dr = <short summary>
 
Ok, and what's tr;dr again?
 
@sehe lol
 
user1804599
@sehe First evaluates tr and discards the result, then yields the result of evaluating dr.
 
user1804599
tr;dr is a valid Gear expression!
 
7:27 PM
@not-rightfold not at all, it's as typing fail.
 
Ssssh
 
user1804599
@thecoshman He didn't intend it to be code, yet he formatted it as code.
 
user1804599
FYI <code> should only be used for code.
 
@thecoshman 'as typing fail a blooming wad, a grody tjunk engrove / an idor tubulant enclad, and roning yokes aloaf'
@not-rightfold It's not <code>, it's just `....`
 
@kbok because effort
 
user1804599
7:30 PM
 
@BartekBanachewicz "Writing the best chat app yet" will require effort anyway
 
@not-rightfold more or less :(
 
user1804599
@thecoshman less.
 
user1804599
Less is better.
 
7:30 PM
@not-rightfold fuck do I care what your browser needs to render this shit :/
 
user1804599
@sehe The Markdown is rendered on the server.
 
@not-rightfold heaps
 
user1804599
My browser is irrelevant.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think C# is the only viable option because this is a Lounge project and all other possible languages are despised by many here
 
@not-rightfold fuck do I care what the server thinks it should do to render my logorheia as I intended it?
@kbok inb4 Haskell
 
7:32 PM
@sehe Remember this is a webapp
 
user1804599
 
@sehe sorry i prefer magic
In computer programming, deep magic refers to techniques that are not widely known, and may be deliberately kept secret. The number of such techniques has arguably decreased in recent years, especially in the field of cryptography, many aspects of which are now open to public scrutiny. The Jargon File makes a distinction between deep magic, which refers to (code based on) esoteric theoretical knowledge; black magic, which refers to (code based on) techniques that appear to work but which lack a theoretical explanation; and heavy wizardry, which refers to (code based on) obscure or undocu...
 
user1804599
Bluetooth is a piece of shit.
 
@kbok there are other languages
 
@not-rightfold you forgot a not
 
user1804599
7:32 PM
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Bluetooth isn't not a piece of shit.
 
you accidentally double negative
 
user1804599
A fucking minute for 10 MB.
 
@not-rightfold of porn?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Except python?
 
@kbok Erlang and Scala
 
user1804599
7:34 PM
@sehe Control the Storm ft. Marco Hietala
 
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@BartekBanachewicz OMG ERLANG <3
 
user1804599
Also Haskell!
 
Haskell is too hard.
 
user1804599
Write it in Gear. :lol:
 
I am still too unproficient at it.
 
Xeo
7:34 PM
Phew, Kanjis - done!
 
greetings
 
@BartekBanachewicz Hard is good
 
Xeo
So, what was it with the overload resolution question now?
 
@sehe anyway, what's raid -1 then?
 
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@Xeo You know all kanji?
 
7:35 PM
@BartekBanachewicz you confirmed it is a [0, 1]?
 
Xeo
@not-rightfold Nah, I meant the studying for today.
 
@BartekBanachewicz meh scala. Also erlang is unrealistic you need library support
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Haskell makes your dick hard.
 
@Pawnguy7 what [0, 1]
 
Xeo
I'm currently at ~100 or so
 
7:35 PM
@thecoshman No use explaining. Besides, you still refuse to explain tr;dr?
 
@kbok there are libraries for XMPP for Erlang, and one particularly good
 
@sehe Yes; why?
@sehe Duh?!
 
@thecoshman raid uses modulo 11 arithmetic obviously
 
@sehe what's to explain, it's a typo
 
user1804599
@Xeo I know only 人. :P
 
7:35 PM
Also @CatPlusPlus should be pinged here
 
Xeo
Hito, Person
 
@BartekBanachewicz You need many more than that though
 
@not-rightfold that's true, but doesn't change a thing that I am still a newb at it
@kbok Nothing wrong with Scala
 
user1804599
Use Erlang and Mnesia they're webscale.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit downloads random stuff of internet to do trivial stuff: mental -1
 
7:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Your draw with delta in world. I assumed 0 was the start, and 1 was the end.
 
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@Xeo And 人人 was "people", right?
 
@Pawnguy7 I don't remember :F
 
user1804599
Or folk or something like that.
 
And 人人人 is "Lounge"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I thought that must have been an int overflow artefact there
 
Xeo
7:36 PM
Maybe, I'm only learning single Kanji for now, not compounds.
 
人人人<C++>
 
user1804599
@kbok And 人人人人人人人人人人人人人人人人 is a tent camp.
 
user1804599
Oh my transfers are done!
 
@thecoshman Ah really. I wondered, since your cryptic reply seemed to rule out mundane explanations:
12 mins ago, by thecoshman
@sehe ¬_¬ ergh... it's what you sat right before you get overwhelmed with an immense desire to shrink away from the world in shame
 
7:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Ah. Well, I also further assumed this, because *= 100 makes it not move at all. Or I broke something else. Hard to say.
 
"you sat"? sitting is a transient verb now. I didn't get it :/
 
user1804599
Chrome you piece of shit y u 32-bit.
 
@sehe hint: assume every word I spell is wrong
 
user1804599
Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups, so don't.
 
@thecoshman But but. I still want to know what you mean by your typos ... :)
 
7:40 PM
@StackedCrooked this is so stupid too many stupids cannot compute
 
@not-rightfold Why not? Mothers of fuck-ups are the salt of the earth.
 
i think std::logic_error was created for this
 
@not-rightfold Because you installed the 32bit build?
 
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@sehe Was there a different option? No.
 
Xeo
@not-rightfold It may well be, since 木(tree) doubled / trippled is 林/森(forest, lighter or thicker I think)
 
user1804599
7:41 PM
I could compile Chromium but fuck Google they should ship 64-bit version by default.
 
@sehe you mean you want me to correct stuff?
 
@not-rightfold why on earth would you do that
 
@not-rightfold o_0
 
this is not thinking again
 
@StackedCrooked what's wrong with that?
 
7:41 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the guy is rep whoring so he's making it sound differnet
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf no, nonsense.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit who said there was anything wrong with it?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I thought it was amusing.
 
@not-rightfold Erm:
sehe@desktop:~$ find /opt/google/chrome/ -executable -exec file {} \; | grep ELF
/opt/google/chrome/nacl_helper_bootstrap: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, BuildID[sha1]=0xbadb8f76005630d0b95e03e35f584adb9d09b23e, stripped
/opt/google/chrome/chrome: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0x096d8820be0222841b743050cdace59a53ea12cb, stripped
/opt/google/chrome/nacl_helper: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs
 
7:42 PM
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Self-answering is encouraged on SO (if you think of SO less as a forum and more as what it really is, a Q&A), and he's just humourously talking to himself in the second-person to fulfill the effect. I do that too!
@StackedCrooked Indeed :)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit he responded in under a second
it's guaranteed rep whoring
unless you know of anyone with a words per second in the thousands
 
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@sehe We use different operating systems; can't compare.
 
@not-rightfold MAC?!
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf No, he probably used the "Post Question & Answer" feature that is part of the Stack Exchang technology.
 
user1804599
If Google doesn't ship 64-bit version for OS X, they suck.
 
user1804599
7:44 PM
Especially because they don't support any 32-bit version of OS X anyway.
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf No it isn't. Also, you're welcome to repwhore if you can afford to spend three evenings perfecting your "whoring" answer
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Why do you call it rep whoring? Why does he deserve the rep less just because the question was his too? He spent time composing the answer, using his experience and marketable skills.
 
Xeo
Meh, that was no proper overload resolution question. :(
Just an old compiler.
 
@kbok One of the best XMPP servers is written in Erlang, so this point is moot.
 
@Xeo You sound like a dog that was disappointed when his owner threw a stick, not a bone
 
user1804599
7:44 PM
Erlang is wonderful.
 
@sehe I wasn't aware you could use an identifier as an operating system.
 
@thecoshman Nah. Never. That will just lead to mroe tsypo
 
Xeo
@sehe Hey, I was hoping for something fun!
 
@BartekBanachewicz I tried to transcribe it again. Now it is broken a different way :\
 
@sehe plorbery
 
Xeo
7:46 PM
@sehe More like, I was promised a bone, not a stick :s
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf anyone with a words per second?
@Xeo darn. that's rude. Needs downvote :)
@thecoshman Nom nomnom.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ITT Stack Exchang
@Downvoter: Please do explain why you think that this answer is incorrect. I look forward to hearing your views. Thank you. — Lightness Races in Orbit Mar 22 at 11:25
hehe, tossers
 
inb4 wankers
 
@sehe gerhp
 
t-rex on a shark, the internet has been won
 
Xeo
Dammit ... I tried a new pesto manufacturer today - while the smell is excellent, it's by far not as tasty as the other one. :(
@Borgleader WoW
 
@thecoshman get herpes? no thanks :)
 

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