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1:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus What happens if you do SET GLOBAL sql_mode='ANSI'; before your query?
 
Anyone using Firefox 24? I'm seeing a weird UI issue.
 
Is that beta? My FF is 23.0.1 and does not want to update.
 
@chris ..and then you deleted your +5 answer.
 
Yes, beta.
 
@wilx Same here, 23.0.1 and no updates.
 
1:03 PM
@EtiennedeMartel btw Origin bundle did break 10M, dunno if you've seen.
Not really btw, I'm just overusing that.
 
..which is a very good thing because FF updates, when install pending, totally stuff the performance of my machine for some reason.
 
Stop using ENIAC.
 
I think I've watched/listened to too much cricket. I just read a news item as : 'U.N. Council set for Syria clash as West Indies attack', (it was 'readies').
@CatPlusPlus i7 and I don't know what it does. No excessive CPU or network, just piss-poor UI response, stupid multiple chat messages, really annoying stuff.
 
Pre-24 JS engine in Firefox is pretty crappy.
 
@CatPlusPlus Really? How can you say that. It seems pretty _sn_appy.
Bleh.
 
1:09 PM
> NuGet 2.7 introduces a new approach to package restore, and also overcomes a major hurdle: Package restore consent is now on by default!
 
Markdown fail.
 
Speaking of markdown, I forgot how to do multiline code.
 
I don't have much of a problem with FF normally, just when an update install is pending. If it would pop up a tab with 'Update available' it would be fine. Getting my attention by stuffing up the whole box is less acceptable as a notification mechanism :)
 
@Pawnguy7 Indent with 4 spaces.
@MartinJames Worksforme vOv
 
1:10 PM
I am code
So am I.
Ah. Thanks.
 
There's a sandbox room.
 
Ok. I am bored.
 
Also that join still works in ANSI sql_mode.
 
@CatPlusPlus Probably fucking Vista 64 :((
 
Poll: What song/music are you listening to right now!?
 
1:11 PM
@MartinJames Ugh.
 
Zero Cult - [Ikebana #04] Echoes (Cydelix Remix)
 
Silence here.
 
@wilx Puppy song: 'It's a Bin', Pet Shop Boys.
 
:)
@MartinJames That one is indeed lovely.
 
1:19 PM
@Telkitty猫咪咪 it's not technically wrong. In fact, it's physically adequate, since it refers to your mass, not your weight. In space, you lose weight, but not mass ;)
 
> Sorry, this content is not available.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I dunno. .. guess I should try that once. Meanwhile technically im not required to sing since we do have a piano on site and both our tenors are present.
 
@sehe you are back already? Marriage canceled?
 
@ArneMertz 'Instant Divorce Services' van outside church.
 
hehe
 
1:30 PM
hello guys ,
 
I got 17 days till I get married, we'll see if someone ordered that van :D
 
I am new to C++ and also graphics programming .
 
ergh... Why is it so hard to see the beauty in "Do the simplest things that does what the client needs"? Why do I have defend myself from writing overly complicated solutions to problems that can be dealt with in a most trivial of ways? The client does not wish to know ever reason why an action failed, they just want to know that it did fail! Why waste the effort in telling them more than they need or want?
@CodeJack Do not start on either
 
@thecoshman seems natural. Anyone saying otherwise?
 
1:31 PM
@ArneMertz ¬_¬ the man who says what my team needs to work on... a man who clearly does not enough time in the day to cover all the work he needs to at the level he needs to
 
@ArneMertz It won't be me, best wishes!
 
how do I get std::function to take typename T, std::function<void(auto)> is not appreciated :(
 
Can't. That's not what std::function is for. Stop doing that. Whatever it is.
Poor std::function, always being abused.
 
Which function should I abuse for that?
 
If std::function didn't want to be abused, it shouldn't have looked so sexy!
 
1:36 PM
@FlorisVelleman Dunno. I'm not sure what you want to do; I'm almost sure std::function is the wrong tool.
 
What are you actually trying to do (hint: abusing std::function is not it)
 
Just playing around seeing what's possible
 
Well, you cannot decide a signature at runtime.
"std::function is runtime, Fun is compile-time" would make a nice title for a post about this.
 
Oh, I'm starting to suspect that it's more convenient to implement group if it takes the projection as an argument, and not the predicate, because that way for any given run I can store the associated projected bit rather than the whole element. Means it's possible to group a range of move-only element as long as a copy constructible bit is projected.
Not sure how I feel about a more general version that stores both predicate and projection.
 
Xeo
Did you take a look at my compare_by link?
 
1:45 PM
Not sure what that is.
 
Xeo
A predicate that allows (multiple) projection
 
Does not ring a bell.
 
That's not in my inbox :(
 
@LucDanton It's like (compare `on`) in Haskell.
 
Xeo
1:47 PM
I linked it when you started with the group_by thing yesterday :/
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, I know
 
NHibernate documentation is aaaaaaaaaaaawful
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh boy, yes, it is.
 
@Xeo This does not allow multiple projections.
 
(Still totally worth using IIAM)
 
New chat subproject: a better ORM.
 
1:48 PM
Speaking of which, ARERGTERH JUST MAKE class Applicative m => Monad m already Q_Q
@CatPlusPlus I might be able to help, btw.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Well, I mean that it allows you to project multiple parts of the same object
 
I.e. a projection.
 
Oh great bank marketers are calling again.
 
Xeo
like, first .id and if those are the same, then on .name or whatever
 
Apparently not answering my phone 20 times when they tried last was not a clue.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was just trying to remember how to handle the result of SQL query with two entities attached.
 
1:51 PM
@CatPlusPlus I'm pretty sure theyre obliged to call back until you answer. You should save yourself the pain and tell them youre not interested the first time around.
 
I couldn't care less about answering.
 
2 days ago, by Luc Danton
@Xeo Yes. Mine is compose_over because it's variadic: compose_over(f, g)(a...) == f(g(a)...) vs compose(f, g)(a...) == f(g(a...)).
Me reacting on it then.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Well, what came to your mind when I said "multiple projections"?
 
It's not my time they're wasting.
:v
 
@Xeo Comparing with one projection, then another.
 
Xeo
1:52 PM
uhm... that's what it does.
 
No. You build a comparison for a given projection, and it only works for that one.
 
Ugh every goddamn Google query related to NHibernate never yields any results in actual NHibernate docs.
 
I'm going to store everything, but store it in a tuple for EBO.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton I don't follow. You can change the comparator, if that's what you mean
 
Not sure what the interface for reasonable defaults will look like.
@Xeo You do realise I have Data.Function.on in C++ form?
 
1:57 PM
What's a workaround for lack of class Applicative m => Monad m?
Am I forced to use that WrappedMonad shit?
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Yes
 
Then that's about it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Assuming generic code, add more context. Otherwise, I'd provide the instance.
 
@LucDanton I wanted to provide a generic instance instead :/
I think I need to boil this down to a SSCCE for a question.
 
Sorry, I avoid tinkering with the Prelude :p too fiddly for my taste.
 
@LucDanton (I am not fighting the Applicative/Monad issue, but the same thing involving some classes of mine)
 
2:01 PM
Oh? If you control the hierarchy, then perhaps default implementations?
 
I want to get free Applicative instances if you have an instance of my class.
But there's some more messy bits in it. I'll work out a SSCCE.
 
I don't recall the syntax exactly (never used it myself), but it would go something like default superMethod = supraMethod. I hope you can get a context for this to work though.
class Enum a where
    enum :: [a]
    default enum :: (Generic a, GEnum (Rep a)) => [a]
    enum = map to genum
So default (<*>) :: (Monad m) => signature as usual and (<*>) = ap
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is that your kind of issue?
 
@LucDanton But I can't change default (<*>) because it's not mine, can I? (And that's exactly the one I need)
 
3 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@LucDanton (I am not fighting the Applicative/Monad issue, but the same thing involving some classes of mine)
I'm lost.
 
Anybody here seen Inception?
 
2:05 PM
@Pawnguy7 Mhm
 
Recall the part where there is a.. I want to say boxed city. As if you took a city as the bottom, and also had it on the sides, and upsidedown above you?
 
@CatPlusPlus Lift handset, drop handset. There, you've answered and the bastards can move on to waste someone else's time.
 
@Pawnguy7 Not really, it's been a while :p
 
Bummer. I am trying to find a picture, but nothing is coming up.
 
@MartinJames :effort:
 
2:07 PM
Reddit’s UI sucks so badly
 
@Pawnguy7 How long did the picture stay for or how far was it in the movie?
 
reddit sucks in general.
 
@All: Is C++ really becoming extraordinarily complex even for (semi) professional C++ developers or is that opinion prevalent only among 'I already know python/php/java[script], no need for c++' types?
 
lol, I forgot I had a wikipedia user page
 
@chris Um... it was where the main character was showing the architext (?) how dreams worked, if that makes sense. I don't recall how long it was showing it, I would guess not very long, as it was computer generated.
I think this is near it.
But I wanted the upside down, more in view shot.
It is kind of hard to recognize it here.
 
2:12 PM
@Pawnguy7 I'll find it :p
 
I am curious, through what medium are you finding it?
 
hardest thing about writing a series of articles, not writing everything at once... well, spelling and grammar, but that's a given right?
 
@LucDanton Well, fuck me, I don't know what I lost in my SSCCE.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The bugs, presumably :)
 
Welp VS froze.
 
2:15 PM
Huh, nobody wants to share his opinion?

> Is C++ really becoming extraordinarily complex even for (semi) professional C++ developers or is that opinion prevalent only among 'I already know python/php/java[script], no need for c++' types?
 
Last seen autocompleting String to StringBuilder
 
@CatPlusPlus 'Dog bites man'
 
Oooh, got it.
 
return range::take_while(
        [criterion, projection](Element<Range>& e) mutable { return annex::invoke(projection, e) == criterion; }
        , self.grouped_range() );
^ not very fun, oh and I forgot the custom predicate
 
2:17 PM
@jons34yp C++ was always too complex.
And yes, it's getting more complex with every iteration.
 
@jons34yp C++ is fucked up. You should look at the ~100 pages I have here on my desk just to explain all the pitfalls of auto and rvalue refs.
 
@Pawnguy7 How's this?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why do you have those?
 
@LucDanton Reviewing Scott Meyer's EC++11 draft.
 
Oh boy.
 
2:19 PM
@CatPlusPlus Hurray!
 
Those ~100 pages are the first rough bits he sent.
 
@chris Is there any view where three sides of it are shown at once?
 
Oh hey I can't actually use the lambda + take_while, because no decltype(auto). Time to write out-of-line code!
 
ghc: command not found: Coliru sucks.
@StackedCrooked why did you remove the command-line from the shared snippets?
Sometimes it's important to give sense to the output (say, optimisations on/off, or warning settings or whatnot)
 
@Pawnguy7 I didn't see any, it's more of a curve when it bends.
 
2:22 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's no longer a hidden default. (set -x is now visible in the default command)
 
Overlapping instances for Applicative (m s)
  arising from a use of `*>'
Matching instances:
<snip>eight possible instances</snip>
In the expression: p *> pure x
In an equation for `bar': bar p x = p *> pure x
@Luc this is what I'm trying to fix.
(And obviously the SSCCE is artificial pointless crap)
 
Questions for you clever chaps.
Is NaN always greater to or lesser than any value?
 
@StackedCrooked Sorry, I can't make sense of that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The result is NaN.
 
user784668
@EtiennedeMartel Comparisons are always false.
 
2:24 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes The default command is now:
set -x
g++ -std=c++11 -O2 -Wall -pedantic -pthread main.cpp && ./a.out
 
@chris Hrm. I seem to recall there was at least a second of some cars driving while upside down, with buildings of the bottom in the shot slightly, or something. Anyway, I was just looking for one that is easy to understand what is there, if that makes sense. If nothing else is good, though, what you got is better than what I found.
 
And then Batman.
 
If the user removes the 'set -x' part, then the command trace won't be visible in the output.
In the past 'set -x' was enabled invisibly.
 
What's the motivation for that feature btw?
Because I'm not really seeing it.
 
2:25 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I want the output to be the same as if run from a shell.
 
What the Cat said.
Why would I not want the command visible?
What the hell am I hiding?
 
echo "Hello" should print "Hello", without the trace
 
@StackedCrooked IYAM that's the functionality that should require extra stuff.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Those classes will always get in the way I think.
 
@ArneMertz ever heard the term "heavyweight?"
 
2:28 PM
You've used this acronym twice already, and I keep seeing "it is a mystery".
 
 
Or "if I ask me", I guess.
 
@chris That is great, thanks.
 
@Pawnguy7 You're welcome.
 
2:29 PM
"If I ask me" ... so profound ... SO PROFOUND!!!
 
So bad grammar.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe for the webview, but not from API pov I think.
 
MERMAIDS AND WATER DRAGONS AND SHIT ARE REAL, THEY ARE SO FUCKING REAL I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THIS
 
You can use different defaults for snippets sent from API and from web.
@EtiennedeMartel I thought about posting that too, but that smells like a fakepost.
 
Still great.
 
2:35 PM
mermaid & water dragon sushi ... umm
 
 
@LucDanton I really wanted to avoid pulling the constraints up to the class and making it multiparam coliru.stacked-crooked.com/… but I guess I'll have to bite the bullet.
@Borgleader That... is... just...
 
> country’s customs
Ugh.
 
user784668
WTAF.
 
Xeo
2:39 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did you notice that suddenly ghc is found? :P
 
@Xeo hahahahaha
 
@CatPlusPlus Ideally a cleaner solution should be used for webview (command line in separate <pre> block for example)
 
Seems broken, though.
 
Xeo
Maybe it's just getting prepped.
 
Install Haskell Platform.
 
Xeo
2:40 PM
You know @Stacked likes live edits.
 
:lol:
 
The chroot has a read-only mount to /usr. So apt-get install on the system is a live-update.
I don't know why it can't find the package database though.
 
Probably because Ubuntu/Debian Haskell packages suck.
 
@Borgleader Damn. Even Lulu.
And even Kayle, which has a hidden face.
 
@EtiennedeMartel But visible boobs?
 
2:44 PM
Yeah theyre both all covered up basically. i dont get it
Kayle is in full body armor
 
@CatPlusPlus likely a symbolic link to /var or /etc somewhere along the line
 
VISIBLE HAIR CANNOT ALLOW
 
user784668
@Borgleader Averted trope detected.
 
Fuck backwater customs.
 
2:45 PM
@CatPlusPlus It's the helmet, not her hair.
 
Xeo
> following characters are now up for consideration in the event
 
I think the law must be about "Women shall not be allowed to be badass".
 
Xeo
> Kayle
 
user784668
@EtiennedeMartel It is.
 
user784668
2:45 PM
@EtiennedeMartel The actual law is "Women shall not be allowed to *".
 
@Xeo Oh, so started not getting it before they finished reading.
 
@Xeo My guess is at first they banned every female character, and then backtracked when they realized not all of them had ridiculous cleavage.
 
Xeo
yea
 
Still shit.
 
Xeo
2:46 PM
Not arguing that
 
:modernworld:
 
user784668
Which country is so shit so I know what places to avoid?
 
Every country.
 
@Fanael Iran. You probably knew to avoid it already.
 
ghc seems to work now
 
2:48 PM
@Fanael France. (HAR HAR HAR)
 
besides ... what's wrong with cleavage or naked women anyways?
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, Middle East. I can't even pretend I'm surprised.
 
user784668
@EtiennedeMartel Ya, France is crap.
 
as if any one has not suckled on mothers breasts when they were a baby
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 nothing
 
user784668
2:50 PM
@Telkitty猫咪咪 IT'S EVIL!
 
Our holy guide to being a shithead tells us so.
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Because feminists will murder you in your sleep.
 
@chris I'm pretty sure feminists are outraged by that decision.
 
I don't understand all these rage about indecent exposure - you see I do ocean swim almost every summer, I am in my swimmers a lot and I see a lot of skimily clothed people at beach too
 
Reasonable people tend to be.
 
2:52 PM
fuck it! walking home!
 
> I know I will get a lot of hate, but I’d say, fair enough. It’s their culture, it may be disgusting, sexist, agressive, or whatever you want to call it, but it’s something completely normal for their culture.
Ugh.
 
> I know I will get a lot of hate
AKA "BRING ON THE FLAME WAR, MOFOS!"
I hate the status quo. It always sucks.
 
Xeo
... nobody commenting on my glorious idea to remove implicit conversions to bool :(
 
In related news, I need a new baseball bat.
 
Ugh those idiots defending this.
 
user784668
2:55 PM
All idiots should be nuked.
 
Well fuck. This has worked the first time around.
 
> #10 raises some very good and valid points.
> Truth be told I am surprised a bit, you stated you are not muslim nor christian, yet you defend a muslim culture, and respect other religions, you know people like you are quite rare, the world needs more people like you.
No, the world needs less people like you.
 
@LucDanton You are getting a lot of that lately. That's scary.
 
Preferably zero.
 
user784668
@CatPlusPlus Ain't gonna happen unless you kill all humans.
 
2:56 PM
@CatPlusPlus lol, the world needs more people that respect people that don't respect other people.
 
user784668
I only respect people who deserve it.
 
user784668
Nobody does.
 
There is a non-zero amount of decent people.
Even in gasp Internet comments
 
Is "heist" a movie genre?
 
> Do I agree all women should wear these things? NO.
> Do they however have a point? YES.
> I dont agree but I can respect the thought. Its a bit extreme yes, but just because people dont agree should we judge other people for their beliefs.
Yes, we should.
 
2:59 PM
So, @CatPlusPlus, are you gonna get on it with that chick who wants to break that record?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, I've run out of the very primitive things, so for instance this group delegates a lot of work to take_while. Not as much stuff that can go wrong now.
 
user784668
@CatPlusPlus Nah. People on the internetz are always wrong and stupid.
 

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