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10:00 PM
Like, "do it that way, problem solved"
 
I am not doing anything at all. Though I have heard of that concept and am familiar with it, yes. Though I don't think I have ever used it yet, not sure why.
 
I need a web app to calculate the optimal schedule for TIFF .. given a set of showings in which each film is shown 3 times within the week, and a set of films that I want to see, find a set of showings that don't clash
I'm sure someone will have written that already
 
I wonder if there are any movie theater API's. That would be interesting, but useless at the same time, because I am pretty sure they would have that on their website.
 
@Rapptz Ah, haters.
 
10:02 PM
@EtiennedeMartel You're right. There isn't much crediting in the comments even after multiple hours.
 
Gotta love 'em.
 
Sucks.
I've seen the C++FQA mentioned 5 times today. That's 5 more than usual.
 
@Rapptz I think the real issue is that there is no such thing as "news" on C++ Reference.
So people discover new features by stumbling upon them.
 
I was expecting @StackedCrooked to pop in and make a comment saying something about how he made the online compiler service they're using.
 
Well, I don't have a Reddit account, so I can't make that comment.
But I'm sure you can.
 
10:06 PM
I just came home from work like 10 minutes ago
So I couldn't comment earlier :P
 
> fools! How will you prevent someone from writing and running malicious code?! You've opened yourselves up to sooooo much security holes!
@Rapptz You don't Reddit at work?
 
Nope.
 
@Borgleader "SDK" is a bit ambiguous.
The answer makes an assumption.
 
10:11 PM
I really want to know what "Microsoft SDK" is
 
I guessed it was the Windows SDK when I saw and instantly thought of basically what the answer says.
Except the Windows SDK isn't very C++.
 
There is something like greatest measurement error. What is it called? Something like, no more than half a unit, perhaps, but I forget.
 
@Borgleader Windows SDK. Probably the non .NET parts of it.
So, Win32 API, I guess.
 
Btw TIL about git bisect.
 
There's also git bisex, which just summons @TonyTheLion.
 
@Rapptz He does have a point
 
@willj What he said
 
@willj I didn't say anything
 
Sounds like a few years from now being decent at C++ is going to be a herculean achievement in and of itself xD
 
I agree with most of it (save for a couple sentences, like C++17 being impossible and having to learn malloc in C++)
 
10:21 PM
I disagree with the core of his message.
Namely because you don't have to learn everything in a short time.
 
I don't like the entire first paragraph but the last sentence is pretty good.
 
Unless you see a language as "that tool you have to learn in a week because your boss needs something done".
 
We're all masochists that enjoy the fact that C++ is stupidly complicated
 
It's not. Just take it bit by bit.
 
@willj Fear not, Wide will save us all.
 
10:23 PM
I would get bored if I had nothing new to learn ;)
 
I guess just like video games, programming has to be pretty easy to be enjoyable. :P
 
Are you saying C# is a casual language for casual programmers, and C++ is a hardcore language for hardcore programmers? :P
 
@Rapptz I wonder if I should go into serious mode there.
@Borgleader By "hardcore", do you mean "elitist"?
 
@Borgleader I didn't even mention a language
 
@EtiennedeMartel I was making a crappy casual vs hardcore gamer analogy =/
 
10:26 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I'm just upset over the past month I've seen 3 games ranked down because they're too difficult.
I'm not even going to discuss it because I'm just genuinely upset.
 
@Rapptz And you know you're going to end up being wrong anyway.
 
Don't bait me. It won't work.
 
You almost fell for it.
 
Don't other languages get additions to their standard libraries?
 
Yes lol
C got threads recently.
 
10:28 PM
@Borgleader the question is, is the answer right?
 
Wouldn't that make them also take longer to learn?
I don't get that argument, if it means only C++.
 
There's a popular meme that C++ is the hardest language on Earth so everyone jumps in on it at every chance.
 
@Pawnguy7 Yep, same argument applies to C# - major languages changes have gone in since I learned it
now I wouldn't know how to write a proper asynchronous GUI app
 
@willj it has a few quirks in the advanced bits, but I wouldn't call it "stupidly complicated"
 
@MooingDuck Ever tried to parse it?
 
10:29 PM
@willj I write it, I don't have to parse it
 
@MooingDuck +1
 
@MooingDuck then you're not as masochistic as I am ;)
 
@willj you know what's significantly more stupidly complicated? parsing English
in fact, parsing English is nearly impossible. But writing it isn't. Same with C++.
 
@MooingDuck That's why they wrote the standard in.. English
 
@willj I wrote a C(ish) compiler, that was easy.
 
10:31 PM
Parsing English as in terms of, for example, AI?
 
"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" is a grammatically correct sentence in American English, used as an example of how homonyms and homophones can be used to create complicated linguistic constructs. It has been discussed in literature since 1972 when the sentence was used by William J. Rapaport, an associate professor at the University at Buffalo. It was posted to Linguist List by Rapaport in 1992. It was also featured in Steven Pinker's 1994 book The Language Instinct as an example of a sentence that is "seemingly nonsensical" but grammatical. Pinker nam...
 
@Pawnguy7 Before you can parse C++ you have to parse the C++ standard (by reading it)
 
@MooingDuck I don't think I can parse that haha.
@willj I doubt that would go very well for me.
 
I have an idea for a new project: a parser that parses the C++ standard
 
I haven't done much parsing. Guessing most things would be beyond me. Like HTML.
@MooingDuck I am curious, how did you do the machine code/assembly part?
 
10:41 PM
@Pawnguy7 backend was targeting a very simple proprietary bytecode.
I didn't do an optimizer pass, it was just straight parsing->bytecode.
 
@Pawnguy7 HTML is relatively trivial, and there are plenty of libraries that can do that for you.
 
@willj I didn't assume the point was that libraries could do it, I assumed it was me doing it.
 
@Pawnguy7 XML is pretty easy
 
@Pawnguy7 Never do anything a library can do for you!
 
Not that I would do it, just an example of my capabilities.
XML is strict though, is it not?
 
10:43 PM
@Pawnguy7 that's what makes it easy
 
As far as I know, browsers still correctly parse things like non-closed tags (for HTML).
 
@Pawnguy7 that's what makes HTML hard
 
Yes. Perhaps I am overestimating it, I don't know.
Of course, I know there are quite a lot of XML parsers.
I wonder if some are open source.
 
@Pawnguy7 yes
 
That reminds me. You know of those robot games where you can program them? Though I suppose most of them are old now.
That was my original plan for the screensaver, actually.
I still don't know how doable that is.
 
10:49 PM
quite, just use a custom bytecode to start.
pft. we got a new head of engineering yesterday. His first announcement was that from now on the lights will be on during work hours.
 
What?
That seems rather arbitrary and somewhat wasteful electricity wise
 
@MooingDuck I think that is beyond me currently, but I think it would be very neat to learn how to do such things someday.
 
@Pawnguy7 it's truely not as hard as it sounds
 
jesus fuckin' christ.
my dog is getting old
and snoring.
 
Perhaps, but I take into account where I am coming from :D
 
10:54 PM
@DeadMG Poor Daisy. Pet her a little from her Giraffe-like friend.
 
that would entail waking her up
 
@MooingDuck So 14:00 to 05:00 ?
Don't do that =)
 
@DeadMG better than farting. dog farts are terrible
 
@MooingDuck Fuck that, just use Lua or Python or something.
 
@MooingDuck Good.
Coding in the dark is so fucking bad for your eyesight.
 
10:56 PM
@CaptainGiraffe what? No. 8:00 to 17:00.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well damn... I always code in the dark with a dark theme...
 
@DeadMG have to maintain backwards compatibility back to 1990 because bureaucracy.
@EtiennedeMartel nonsense
 
@MooingDuck I have not written a proper line of code at 08:00 in my life.
 
@CaptainGiraffe nor I, but those are the official work hours. Most of the engineers here are 9:00-18:00
 
@MooingDuck I see. You are appropriate at gunning for 8-17 then
 

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