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7:00 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm not an expert.
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Q: Do SSDs suffer from fragmentation?

Jader DiasDo solid state drives suffer from fragmentation?

The fragmentation does not really hinder performance because, unlike HDDs, there is no seek-time penalty for SSDs (at least nothing of the same order of magnitude). However, wear-levelling does tend to "consume" free space whenever a file is deleted (so the SSD's performance is reduced unnecessarily); this is where the TRIM command helps. — sblair Jan 18 '10 at 0:10
 
@FredOverflow neither am I
 
I don't care if my SSD dies tomorrow, I don't store critical data on it, only OS and applications.
 
Ugh waste of time
 
storing data locally is so 20th century
 
oh you
 
Ell
7:02 PM
My bootloader is on my ssd :L
 
@Bartek let me guess, you stream your OS from the cloud? :)
 
This is also true. Since flash memory wears out after so many read/writes (I think mostly writes), it makes sense to spread out the activity throughout the drive. For instance if you have a 64GB SSD and you always find yourself using around 20GB, if it didn't automatically fragment you would end up killing the drive while unfortunately 44GB of the drive is still pristine. — Marcin Jan 17 '10 at 23:59
So bigger SSDs last longer, interesting. I guess I don't feel so bad for not using most of my SSD space now :)
 
@melak47 From the smartphone obviously
 
Ell
@melak47 boot from lan wan :P
 
@melak47 well not OS, but everything important is in the cloud, of course
 
7:03 PM
@BartekBanachewicz What if it rains?
 
@Ell LAN = Local Area Network
@BartekBanachewicz m(
 
Gadgetry
 
@FredOverflow such a lame cloud pun :)
@melak47 ?
 
facepalm emote :)
 
@CatPlusPlus u so fun. y u so fun.
@melak47 oh, I see
 
7:04 PM
@Ell Doing menial labor for people who think they'll be the next big thing, mostly. And developing realtime global illumination solutions for visualization and hopefully one day games, when I manage to find a few cunts that know how to code.
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All my sensitive data is in other people's hands!
 
@CatPlusPlus you trust other people? :o
 
@CatPlusPlus I trust them more than I trust myself
 
@DomagojPandža Why would you use cunts for coding?
 
Ell
@DomagojPandža I'm a cunt! Shame I don't know how to code though :/
 
7:05 PM
@DomagojPandža When you are close to making a billion dollar company call me.
 
@FredOverflow Because I've tried talking with some graduates. They suck almost as much as their professors. :(
 
@melak47 Ahaha no
 
There's a huge emphasis in Croatia on C. They think it is still relevant.
 
@DomagojPandža Well, "Croatia" starts with C, so...
 
Ell
I don't understand how a whole country can think that o.O
 
7:06 PM
It's easy, they're backward. And their path is basically TurboPascal -> C.
 
oh my
That was my path too, though
Turbo Pascal -> C -> C++
of course I can't remember shit from Pascal now, thank god.
 
no Basic, huh
 
And also, we have "experts" on XHTML (Yes, HTML5 is still a myth here), PHP (oh, gawd).
 
@Abyx I learned (about) basic after C++
 
is croatia like, a technology penal colony?
 
7:08 PM
I wanted to say we're better than North Korea. But North Korea has developed and tested a nuclear device.
 
Don't worry it's not a very good nuclear device
 
@Ell Germany agrees!
 
@FredOverflow wat :(
 
We have one nuclear power plant and it is not even ours, we share it with Slovenia. Which is no surprise, Croatian people are small minded individuals, 80%+ are religious zealots. And most are nationalists who think the Croatian people are important because the late pope visited 3 times.
 
ok, time to go read the spec 4 real
ping me if I'm needed
 
7:10 PM
@DomagojPandža NK also has a cyberwar division, what about you? :)
 
@melak47 Are they playing Pong?
 
We don't have a nuclear power plant
 
@CatPlusPlus sane
 
Not really
 
Ell
The uk cyber attacked Argentina recently I think
 
7:12 PM
@CatPlusPlus At least you won't burden your descendants (?) with nuclear waste.
 
nuclear plants are quite safe, until an earthquake
 
@FredOverflow Just all the coal burning byproducts
 
@Abyx or flood
 
@Abyx If nuclear power is so safe, how did Sellafield and Tscheljabinsk and Three Mile Island and Chernobyl and Fukushima happen?
 
Well, a good portion of the waste byproducts are actually usable, like caesium 137, a left over from uranium-235 fission which is common.
The Fukushima was marvelously contained given the magnitude of the catastrophe.
 
7:14 PM
@CatPlusPlus And you won't risk making land uninhabitable for hundreds of years.
 
I live less than 3km from a nuclear reactor. Granted, it's only a 10MW research reactor. it's right in the middle of a golf course :)
 
That's a marginal risk
 
@FredOverflow Don't worry, caesium 137's halflife is 30.2 years. The levels in Chernobyl are down almost.
 
@FredOverflow so.. it's just five incidents?
 
@CatPlusPlus Also, you won't produce weapon-grade plutonium as a by-product.
@Abyx No, those are just the major, well-known ones.
 
7:15 PM
I don't think this works that way
 
Well, the power output is more than worth the risk.
The next big thing will be antimatter matter reactor cores, if they manage to develop a sustainable contaiment field.
 
@DomagojPandža Yeah, down by 50%. It will take another 30 years to reach 25%. And another 30 years to reach 12%. When you reach 0.1% you should be safe, which is about 300 years total.
And that's just the Caesium. Plutonium has a half-life of 24.000 years or something.
 
The thing with antimatter is that it's clean. But an antimatter incident would be game over for an entire hemisphere.
 
@FredOverflow Oh, her.
 
@DomagojPandža Antimatter reactors? Never heard of those before.
 
7:17 PM
@FredOverflow It's quite theoretical right now.
 
@DomagojPandža Fun
 
Usually plutonium-239 or uranium-235 which are used as a fuel sources, they can be contained within the reactor with rods in case of an emergency. The Fukushima was a prime example how well it can be maintained. Only the byproducts were released into the system (Cs-137, 30.2 years halflife, and not even in huge amounts)
Cs-137 is dangerous, though. People have tried to use it as a dirty bomb.
 
@DomagojPandža we'd also need a way to acquire antimatter that's cheap :p
 
Ell
@FredOverflow Sellafield had something go wrong? o.O
 
(Conventional explosive detonates, spreads Cs-137 through the area).
 
Ell
7:20 PM
@DomagojPandža what about fission? like in france
 
@melak47 We'll figure it out, but the biggest concern is the containment of bigger quantities. As I've said, if that goes south, we're all gone.
 
@DomagojPandža dark side of the moon :D
 
The Windscale fire of 10 October 1957 was the worst nuclear accident in Great Britain's history, ranked in severity at level 5 on the 7-point International Nuclear Event Scale. The two piles had been hurriedly built as part of the British atomic bomb project. Windscale Pile No. 1 was operational in October 1950 followed by Pile No. 2 in June 1951. The accident occurred when the core of the Unit 1 nuclear reactor at Windscale, Cumberland (now Sellafield, Cumbria) caught fire, releasing substantial amounts of radioactive contamination into the surrounding area. Of particular concern at the...
 
It wouldn't surprise me if the world governments were to ban it like they did usage of nuclear devices in space.
 
> The Windscale site was decontaminated and is still in use. Part of the site was later renamed Sellafield
 
Ell
7:21 PM
nuclear device use is banned in space? :O
 
@Ell Yes, Bush signed the treaty himself. I know, lol. It also hampered a project called Orion which wanted to use nuclear detonations as means of accelerating to a decent percentage of the speed of light.
Yes, stupid idea, but still. You've got to give credit for :effort:.
 
@DomagojPandža as long as it doesn't take off like that from the surface...who cares :p
 
@Ell There were some accidents were parts fell down to earth. We were lucky nothing serious happened. I think the ban is justified.
 
Ell
We have nuclear devices on ships
 
@FredOverflow not all nuclear devices are banned. RTGs are fine
 
Ell
7:23 PM
how much bigger would they be for a rocket?
 
The thing is, nuclear devices in terms of engines and power plants are controlled reactions.
 
@melak47 Okay, don't know about the details.
 
The rocket style one would be an uncontrolled detonation, just like the one in a car's engine.
 
A radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG, RITEG) is an electrical generator that obtains its power from radioactive decay. In such a device, the heat released by the decay of a suitable radioactive material is converted into electricity by the Seebeck effect using an array of thermocouples. RTGs have been used as power sources in satellites, space probes and unmanned remote facilities, such as a series of lighthouses built by the former Soviet Union inside the Arctic Circle. RTGs are usually the most desirable power source for robotic or unmaintained situations needing a few hundred ...
 
@DomagojPandža Yes, but humans aren't 100% reliable when it comes to controlling systems.
 
7:24 PM
a nuclear battery if you like
 
Woo partition extended online and nothing broke
 
@CatPlusPlus whee
what are you doing with 200GB on the system partition :S
 
But the problem with nuclear detonations of devices like the Little Boy (Hiroshima, guntype, uranium-235) in an engine of a starship - the fission reaction is really weak. The Hiroshima had a yield less than 7% (matter-energy conversion rate). Lots of radioactive waste.
 
I have 40GB on mine, and it's not enough
bloody Windows
 
the hell
my windows drive totals 35.9GB usage :p
 
Ell
7:26 PM
A car's engine isn't uncontrolled is it?
In a petrol engine the explosions are timed precisely I thought
 
@Ell It is controlled in a sense that the bulkheads of the engine can withstand the reaction.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit derp. for some reason I read 400GB
 
But to control reactions of fission-based technology, you need to be entirely in control of the intermix ratio, core temperature etc. And also failsafe systems, neutron rods that "suck" neutrons and retard the reaction in a catastrophic reactor core failure.
 
@melak47 derp indeed. mine is at about 39.5GB usage :(:(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit my partition is 80GB, so I'm good for a while :D
unlike you :)
 
7:28 PM
yeah
when my SSD arrives in a few weeks (picked it as a gift), I'll try to enlarge the partition when I copy it
 
Ell
fires cause most nuclear problems don't they?
 
I don't think we should be trying to replace nuclear power. We should just find ways to clean it up as much as we can. A steady stream of antimatter is still distant future, and containment fields even more so. And nothing else yields so much stuff, almost for free.
It's not perfect, but buttfuckit.
 
no luv for nuclear fusion?~~
 
@DomagojPandža Whether nuclear power is "almost free" is a topic of discussion.
 
7:30 PM
lolwut
 
Fusion reactors would be cool, but they require immense pressure which is usually delivered by its bro, fission. At least in today's multistage warheads.
 
Someone just used me being a high school student as an argument.
It was like "After all, you're just a high school student."
I just lol'd
 
Yeah, you're just a pupil.
 
@DomagojPandža By "we", do you mean your country, or mankind in general?
 
@melak47 Crap like Visual Studio always wants to install things to system partition
Also I don't want to pay attention to this so more the better
 
7:32 PM
@CatPlusPlus you can tell it to install most of the stuff elsewhere
 
That still splits it 1:1
 
@FredOverflow Mankind. Although I would welcome any new development. :D
 
Whatever
I should've made one partition to begin with
 
or just symlink program files, program data etc to somewhere else :D:D
 
> The method toMap(KeyValue<K,V>...) in the type KeyValue is not applicable for the arguments (KeyValue<String,?>[])
:<
 
7:36 PM
@BobbyJones Please refrain from answering unnecessarily. — Etienne de Martel 7 secs ago
 
@DomagojPandža People who argue that nuclear power is almost free tend to forget about the nuclear waste which must be protected for hundreds of generations. Sure, we don't have to pay that now, but future generations will.
Also, building and tearing down nuclear power plants is very expensive.
 
Fuck them
 
I've always felt that we could use Jupiter as a radioactive garbage dump.
 
We'll just make a big ball of garbage and launch it into space
 
heh, dxtory goes nuts with office. print fps in ALL the render targets!
 
7:37 PM
If there was some way to "decontaminate" nuclear waste, I probably wouldn't oppose to it as strongly.
 
@FredOverflow nuke it from orbit
 
@CatPlusPlus Haven't you seen Futurama? It will come back to us in 1000 years ;-)
 
@melak47 Hardware accelerated Outlook
@FredOverflow :thejoke:
 
Transmutation?
 
Also really screw waste
I want cheap power
(AFAIK coal and shit is much more wasteful than nuclear waste anyway)
 
7:39 PM
@FredOverflow Yeah, but nuclear waste is basically just unstable isotopes. If we could be fiendishly capable to stabilize its nucleus to the closest stable isotope, that would be actually the solution.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hey, I saw that film yesterday. For like the 20th time or so.
 
@FredOverflow dynamic_cast<Neutronium>(nuclear_waste) ?
 
The solution is trivially easy in idea, but we haven't got the slightest idea how to do it in practice. A level of control which is still beyond us, I'm afraid.
 
@CatPlusPlus Again, proponents will tell you the nuclear power is the cheapest alternative, whereas opponents will tell you that it's far from the cheapest. Who do you believe, and why?
 
Ell
7:41 PM
@ScottW Remember that doesn't actually move it, just allows it to be moved.
Oh. I need to sleep more often xD
 
std::wcout << nuclear_waste;
std::wcout.flush();
 
> The energy source once billed as "too cheap to meter" has proven to be one of the most expensive energy sources in history. Between 1956 and 2000, Canada's state-owned Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (AECL) received subsidies totaling $16.6 billion. Even with these subsidies, nuclear power is far more expensive than both fossil fuels and renewables.
> The last 20 reactors built in the U.S. had an average cost of $5,000 per kilowatt of capacity; the last one built in Canada cost $4,000 per kilowatt. Compare these prices to the current prices for large-scale wind power and natural gas plants, currently at $1,200 and $1,000 per kilowatt respectively.
> The figures for nuclear do not include lifecycle costs to society from environmental and health damage, or the costs of accidents, clean up, waste disposal or plant decommissioning. And nuclear plants are not only expensive, they're also financially risky because of their long lead times, huge cost overruns and open-ended liabilities.
^ from a random link found via Google
 
std::vector<NuclearWaste> disposal;
disposal.reserve(Jupiter);
 
Ell
let's just use e-cat. which is real for sure
 
> Compare these prices to the current prices for large-scale wind power and natural gas plants, currently at $1,200 and $1,000 per kilowatt respectively.
Is there some citation for this
No of course there isn't
This screams "bending facts to support my argument"
 
7:47 PM
Honestly, I have no idea, I just picked a random link. I'm sure there are dozens of better links.
 
Because wind power is much less efficient, and you need a lot more infrastructure to get to the same level as one nuclear reactor
And I really doubt this costs less in maintenance
> © David Suzuki Foundation, 2012
Yeah that seems like a reliable source
 
What, you don't trust David?
Everyone loves David, man. No, wait... That's Raymond.
 
Ell
Suzuki? :P
 
Roughly how many years can we continue to use nuclear power until there is no more Uranium?
 
@CatPlusPlus David Suzuki? The Canadian environmentalist?
 
7:53 PM
If we need to get away from nuclear power sooner or later, anyway, why not get away from it now? Why wait?
 
@FredOverflow Let's go with thorium!
 
Ell
anyone happen to know off the top of their head what the alternative name for dative covalent bonding is?
 
I don't know who that is but I can tell he's biased
 
David Takayoshi Suzuki, (born March 24, 1936) is a Canadian academic, science broadcaster and environmental activist. Suzuki earned a Ph.D in zoology from the University of Chicago in 1961, and was a professor in the genetics department at the University of British Columbia from 1963 until his retirement in 2001. Since the mid-1970s, Suzuki has been known for his TV and radio series and books about nature and the environment. He is best known as host of the popular and long-running CBC Television science magazine, The Nature of Things, seen in over forty nations. He is also well known f...
 
@Ell sex
 
7:54 PM
@FredOverflow And switch to what?
 
@Ell Dipolar bonding, why? Bond, noun, to be exact. Dipolar bond.
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm not an expert, but we have to switch. It's inevitable. Every energy form that runs on a limited resource is doomed in the long run, be it coal or nuclear.
 
@FredOverflow Nuclear power is more efficient so it'll last longer :ssh:
 
General? Never heard of that language. — Etienne de Martel 6 secs ago
 
Ell
7:55 PM
@DomagojPandža I'm not sure if that's also the correct one, but dipolar reminded me of "coordinate bonding" which is what I was looking for. And I'm revising for my chemistry exam
 
@Ell Yes, coordinate bonding is one more name for it.
 
Ell
@FredOverflow let's use fission fusion with seawater where if we run out of that we're scuppered anyway :3
 
@CatPlusPlus The problem is the waste.
 
The problem with renewable things is that they don't meet the global demand
 
@Ell You mean fusion?
 
7:56 PM
Let's fuse humans.
 
We need to have power before we build that Dyson sphere
 
@CatPlusPlus Not right now, but that's mostly because the lobbyists are not working for them.
 
Maybe
 
@ScottW Harharhar
 
They're still less efficient than nuclear shit so let's go nuclear
 
7:57 PM
NUCLEAR ALL THE POWER.
 
Hydroelectric is pretty efficient.
 
But can't be built everywhere
 
@EtiennedeMartel yeah, it turns fish into electricity!
 
@CatPlusPlus Sure it can. Just replace "everywhere" with "Quebec".
Nobody cares about Poland. Pfff.
Anyway. Thorium.
 
@CatPlusPlus Depends on what you mean by 'efficient'. Nuclear power is not very efficient at killing workers. Windmills are much better - maintenance guys fall off them.
 
8:04 PM
@CatPlusPlus Again, Google results vary dramatically, but it seems in about 100 years, economically mineable Uranium reserves will be depleted. (Some say 30 years, some say several hundred years.)
It's probably very hard to tell accurately.
 
@FredOverflow We got plenty of Uranium in Canada. Go nuclear power!
 
@MartinJames sounds like a job for spiderman
 
@MartinJames Well, there are studies claiming that Chernobyl alone killed a million people. Not instantly, of course.
@melak47 With wind power comes wind responsibility!
 
Ell
@r.martinho I wonder if it's correct that super/subscript characters are distinct in unicode. It seems more like a typography thing
 
@FredOverflow Always bet on those crazy Soviets for breaking the death records.
@Ell Ask @R.MartinhoFernandes.
 
8:08 PM
@FredOverflow There are actual results stating that one hydroelectric dam failure killed estimated 171,000 people. Quite a lot of them instantly.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Of course, there are other studies that claim only a two-digit death toll. The truth is probably somewhere in between.
 
@FredOverflow Isn't that the Golden Mean Fallacy?
 
@MartinJames Wow, when and were was that?
 
@FredOverflow (1000000+99)/2? :)
 
The Banqiao Reservoir Dam () is a dam on the River Ru in Zhumadian Prefecture, Henan province, China. Its failure in 1975 caused more casualties than any other dam failure in history. It was subsequently rebuilt. The Banqiao dam and Shimantan Reservoir Dam () are among 62 dams in Zhumadian Prefecture of China's Henan Province that failed catastrophically or were intentionally destroyed in 1975 during Typhoon Nina. The dam failures killed an estimated 171,000 people; 11 million people lost their homes. It also caused the sudden loss of 18 GW of power, the equivalent of roughly 9 very large...
 
8:08 PM
@MartinJames It probably wasn't built by Hydro-Québec engineers!
@MartinJames Oh. Woa.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't know about you, but I find it highly probable that the number of people killed by Chernobyl lies somewhere between 10 and 1,000,000.
 
@FredOverflow Yeah, me too.
 
@Ell Ligatures and quotation marks are typography thing too
 
@EtiennedeMartel Interesting term, never heard of that before. Gotta read.
 
It's probably between 1 and [amount of humans on Earth at that time].
 
Ell
8:10 PM
I always forget what a ligature is :(
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's definitely more than 1 :) Several fire-fighters died that night.
 
Ell
Imagine being ordered into somewhere and you knowing you will die there :/
 
@Ell Most of them didn't know back then how dangerous it was.
Also, they did it for their country, even if they knew they were gonna die.
 
Ell
I read a few accounts of one of the teams and maybe they were after the initial people went in, but there were certainly those who did
and yeah, it's a very admirable thing
 
insert random Heroes of Chernobyl video here
I think a nuclear accident in Germany would be way harder to handle, because people tend to be less willing to die for their country.
 
Ell
8:13 PM
Germans are? why?
or is that sarcasm or something? :L
 
@FredOverflow IIRC, about 50 workers died as a direct result of radiation poisoning, and quite quickly. Put another way, ~0.25 of an average, yearly Chinese coal mine disaster.
 
user142019
Hi.
 
@Ell All I'm saying is that I feel German's aren't as "patriotic" as the Soviets were back then.
 
@FredOverflow Yeah - OTOH, they tend to be better engineers.
 
@MartinJames Sure, but the workers aren't the real problem. The real problem are the global ecological effects. For example, Belarus had 70% of their land contaminated to the point where you cannot use the land for farming anymore. In Belarus, 1 out of 10 children is considered healthy. Belarus was really fucked by the Chernobyl accident.
@MartinJames I wouldn't know.
 
8:17 PM
I have a question about exception handling that's been bugging me for a while
 
Destructors must not throw ;-)
 
@FredOverflow Coal also has global ecological effects.
 
@FredOverflow Not fun :(
 
Is it okay to catch your own exceptions you throw in functions or should I leave them uncaught?
 
@LucDanton I'm sure it has, but I don't know enough about that. Probably because coal wasn't in the news lately ;-) Any hard numbers on that?
 
8:18 PM
@Rapptz It really depends.
 
Coal causes thousands of carcinoma each year, doesn't it?
 
@FredOverflow Then how can you make an informed choice between sources of energy?
 
@LucDanton On what?
 
@Rapptz Throwing and catching an exception inside the same function sounds dubious to me. You usually throw an exception because you don't know what to do with it. Can we see some code?
@LucDanton I can't yet, but I'm working on it. The primary problem I have with nuclear power is how much burden we leave to future generations with handling the nuclear waste. I think other energy sources don't suffer from that problem.
 
@FredOverflow There are some around. Like the dangers from low-level radioactive contamination, the extrapolations and statistical analyses vary, depending on who you ask :)
 
8:20 PM
@MartinJames damn :)
 
@FredOverflow So I should leave it uncaught?
 
@Rapptz E.g. how frequent is the situation supposed to happen? Where can you and can't you deal with it?
 
@Rapptz We need to see real code to answer that question.
 
I have two functions that throw std::bad_cast(), one of them I catch them myself and say the cast failed in std::cerr
 
Aaaaah.
 
8:21 PM
the other I leave it hanging
 
I found my problem. It's because I'm an idiot.
 
and I didn't know if I shouldn't catch the std::bad_cast() and just leave it uncaught
 
@Rapptz Why do you cast in the first place?
 
because they're casting functions
 
Why do you have "casting functions" in the first place?
Anyway, until you provide actual code, I'm out of this discussion.
 
8:24 PM
@FredOverflow Another way of looking at it is that nuclear power stations actually manage to capture and contain all their waste, (in normal operation). That is obviously not true for fossil-fuel stations with their huge flue stacks.
 
Code's too long. :( I just wanted to keep it about concepts.
 
Ell
I think the key is
that it shouldn't silently fail and be left in an invalid state
 
@Ell you found the key!
 
@MartinJames Even in normal operation, nuclear power stations vent low amounts of radioactive material.
 
std::bad_cast sounds as useful as std::logic_error tbh
 
8:25 PM
@FredOverflow Sure. IIRC, coal-fired stations release far more.
 
If you say coal isn't the ultimate answer either, I agree.
 
user142019
@ScottW ok.
 
@FredOverflow I can't imagine powering an industrial base right now without nuclear, coal, hydroelectric or importation.
 
@MartinJames Oh, I thought you meant waste in general. Interesting.
 
user142019
8:28 PM
@ScottW fb
 
@LucDanton So no more industrial bases then in 2100? :-)
 
I don't know. Can't imagine 2100 being that similar to 'right now'.
 
@FredOverflow Not if Fatty Kim gets his way :)
 
Hydroelectric is water damns, right? Why don't we have more of those? Bad ecological effect I presume?
 
user142019
WetDream!
 
8:30 PM
Needs favourable geography.
 
user142019
Oh damns, not dreams. :L
 
Yeah it isn't possible in many places.
Just like wind power.
 
@Zoidberg God dreamit!
@Rapptz Doesn't it rain practically everywhere? ;-) jk
 
Solar power has the perk of being cheaper to make (energy wise) than what it produces quickly.
 
@FredOverflow Most of the sensibly useable resources are already used up. That, and effects on fish etc. Also, occasionally tend to fall over and kill people.
 
8:32 PM
@Rapptz I don't understand that sentence.
 
@FredOverflow Need energy to manufacture and build power plants.
 
right
Oh he means they get economical more quickly? They hit "break even", or whatever it's called, quickly?
 
Yes
 
How long does it take for Nuclear Power Plants? I would guess about ten years?
 
Ell
8:39 PM
Solar power seems like the way to me
either solar or tidal
 
tidal panels?
 
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8:56 PM
+1 I'm with Yannis too. — Yannis 7 mins ago
lol
 

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