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user1804599
7:01 PM
lol
 
user1804599
They’re going to prohibit selling alcohol to underaged people in the Netherlands and now everybody is angry.
 
@rightfold It wasn't prohibited until now?
 
user1804599
16+.
 
user1804599
Same with tobacco.
 
user1804599
lol wrong room.
 
user1804599
Thanks. :P
 
@acheong87 I like it when I'm right
 
user1804599
Wee.
 
What was the intent behind moving messages?
 
@Pawnguy7 We like to have our conversations about functional programming elsewhere.
 
7:17 PM
Like.
When they were working on chat.
 
@Pawnguy7 Oh, the original intent was probably to move animated GIFs and offtopic conversations to the bin :)
 
I don't know. I wasn't there when the bin came to be.
I would think they would sooner make some kind of delete.
 
Erm... moving to the bin is deleting.
 
@Pawnguy7 once it's on the internet, it's forever
And thus begins day 5 of trying to download boost/sandbox...
I should shower
 
@FredOverflow The bin is a normal room, isn't it?
 
7:21 PM
@Pawnguy7 yes
 
So it isn't deleting :D
It is just.. a workaround.
With side effects.
 
7:32 PM
 
@CatPlusPlus crap
 
vOv someone has to say it
so you just hosting a wiki for now then?
 
TeamCity is also up
 
I see
you've very productive
 
7:44 PM
@MooingDuck hahaha. I know how that worked.
 
It's more interesting than literally everything else I have to do
I'm gonna do LDAP/SO auth next
 
I once tried to get the boost repo cloned with git-svn. That probably sent me to their IP blacklist forever. Because I have never since been able to connect to their svn
And some other servers (the bug tracker, IIRC)
 
Good job
 
Well, cloning a source repo is quite a natural thing to do.
I can't help it that their svn server wasn't up to the task
 
user1804599
I want XML literals in C++.
 
7:49 PM
Well, the SVN servers are now read only
So maybe things will be better for you :)
 
Of course
 
(because they are permanently moving to Git)
 
@CatPlusPlus erm... LDAP... you're going to store account details?
 
Yes, I want centralised auth for all stuffs
@sehe SVN server is rarely up to any task
 
. @isocpp "#boost subversion repository closing nov 23rd. Conversion to Git imminent". I consider this to be excellent #cpp news
@DavidStone no shit :)
 
7:50 PM
@CatPlusPlus why do you need ldap for that?
 
federated logon providers... wizardry
 
if someone logs in via OAuth (or what ever) can't you track the one user across all of the services you offer?
 
@thecoshman Uh, to store account info, and everything and their dog can auth against LDAP so reinventing this shit is pointless
 
user1804599
I hate centralised authentication.
 
user1804599
Especially OpenID.
 
7:51 PM
@sehe The comment about them permanently moving to git is more for the people reading the chat. I assumed you already knew. =)
 
The people reading this chat definitely know
 
@thecoshman Someone logins via OAuth where
 
I've been using their modularized git repos for quite some time
@rightfold mmm why?
 
It's easier to write OAuth consumer as a central auth server on my side, put the stuff in LDAP, and auth everything else against LDAP
Than to implement OAuth for every single thing
 
user1804599
@sehe because I want to login separately for every website.
 
7:53 PM
Nothing in the world can auth against Shit Overflow
 
@rightfold Oh yeah, that's great
 
user1804599
And OpenID is especially terrible because an OpenID provider is needed.
 
Who knew
 
user1804599
It’s not their business what I do on other websites.
 
Oh yeah. They suck. And you can't even grow your own
Oh wait
 
user1804599
7:56 PM
Also, SPF.
 
I think the SPF is the client in this particular scenario.
Which is ... pretty moot
 
user1804599
And running your own OpenID provider requires a server.
 
user1804599
@sehe if I can’t access my OpenID provider, I can’t sign in anywhere.
 
user1804599
If one consumer is down I can still use the other ones.
 
@rightfold They can be federated AFAICT
 
user1804599
7:57 PM
Not to mention the security implications if the provider is bad at security.
 
This means you can just select a different one
 
user1804599
Yeah, let me select a different one and then update all my accounts everywhere to use that new one.
 
Authentication is always about trust.
 
Everyone is bad at security
 
@rightfold Missed the point about federation
 
7:58 PM
I'd rather trust one thing than 1000 things
 
user1804599
No, I’d rather have separate accounts for everything.
 
@rightfold ... you can
 
(Actually I don't care, but the argument is dumb)
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh I see, so OAuth is (can be) used to just create an initial account on one site, then when you try to login to another site via OAuth, it sees that that OAuth account has already been registered?
 
You'll login via OAuth on auth.loungecpp.net or whatever, set global stuff, and then login to everything else using local account
I'd draw it but I'm too lazy
 
8:00 PM
lol
 
Snake tails are a PITA to move if the snake can move in any direction:( My tail segments keep moving away from my head:(
 
Move in any direction?
 
@Pawnguy7 I made this generic 'TmobileCollisionShape' class to make the head. It moves on its own and has a V and H velocity. To test, I just set it off diagonally and had it bounce off the walls, pong-like. It was fine until I added the tail:(
 
I'm tempted to go full header only on this snake project
 
@Jefffrey really? :D
 
8:14 PM
yup
 
@MartinJames Not grid-based?
 
Anyone know a good place to order Raspberry Pi in Canada?
 
@Jefffrey What advantages does it offer?
 
@Pawnguy7 Just the H and V screen positions.
 
user1804599
Time to install Erlang on my server.
 
8:17 PM
It solves my inability to make Makefiles and of course halves the number of files in the project. On the other hand it takes maybe 0.001seconds more to compile.
 
@MartinJames picture?
@Jefffrey makefiles problem?
 
@Pawnguy7 yeah, with subdirectories
 
I am not seeing how that is related to not having two files per thing.
 
@MartinJames ... queue? push new tail segments to the front of the queue, pop old ones of the end. Just make sure you can also iterate over the entire queue read-only, so you can draw the tail.
 
@Pawnguy7 That with header only I can compile the entire project with just $(COMPILER) $(CPP11FLAGS) main.cpp -o $(OUTPUT) $(SFMLFLAGS) without worrying about folders at all.
 
8:23 PM
@CatPlusPlus is your 'common infrastructure' planning on SCM hosting too, or just allow it to hook into github?
 
Previously I had to define compile targets for every object file.
 
Oh right.
They all end up in the same place don't they.
 
No object files are created now.
 
@Jefffrey none?
@MartinJames hitting the wall doesn't kill you?
 
8:28 PM
I keep typing std::optional when it should be boost::optional :<
 
user1804599
namespace std {
    using namespace boost;
}
6
 
@Pawnguy7 It will. For testing my class, I'm just reversing the velocity components as approriate when collliding with the walls. It was a bad idea for testing a component that, in the app, only has to move up/down/right/left.
 
@thecoshman Yeah - I'm using a queue class for the tail:)
 
user1804599
Installing Erlang is fun.
 
8:32 PM
@rightfold Oh, I'm sure....
 
@MartinJames But you have 360 degree motion?
 
@Pawnguy7 Well, in theory, yes. In practice, it doesn't work well when you have a tail behind the head:(
I'll fix it up tomorrow - I need beer to clear my head.
 
FINALLY. After 3 whole days, I found the rogue #include O:
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun Hahaha - link problems:)
 
user1804599
(macbook@macbook.home)8> {shell, 'rightfold@rightfold.org'} ! "Hello, world!".
"Hello, world!"
(rightfold@rightfold.org)5> receive Message -> io:format("~s~n", [Message]) end.
Hello, world!
ok
 
user1804599
8:38 PM
Awesome!
 
@Pawnguy7 none
 
@rightfold I think you'll get a lot of errors there...
 
@thecoshman Dunno. Can be done, if anyone wants
 
@CatPlusPlus hosting, no no no; good integration, yes yes yes
 
8:45 PM
GH's TeamCity hook sucks
 
@Rapptz yo dog, I heard you like github
@CatPlusPlus fix it :P
 
user1804599
I almost ate moldy bread today.
 
I'll write a webhook receiver instead
Hm, an XMPP server?
 
@rightfold unhealthy! Junk food.
 
user1804599
Is Spam junk food?
 
8:55 PM
Nope.
 
I am totally looped between threads, queues and event loops... Can someone help me in unlooping
 
What the hell is succintness
 
user1804599
@aMother It’s pretty simple.
 
@aMother I think there's a pun in there.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Opposite of verbosity
 
8:58 PM
@rightfold Only their definitions are simple... But, it's not working for me... Do you know how they work in iOS
 
user1804599
Yes, but I’m not in the mood to answer any questions about them.
 
user1804599
Lurk more and try again later.
 
@rightfold Ok
 
Oh fuck.... I'm going down the pub.
 
Snake AI, y u no work.
Not only does it manage to go the wrong direction, but it also kills itself.
 
Every word in the Bible is literally true. Then they start grouping themselves into sentences and you've got yourself a problem.
4
 
user1804599
lol
 
@EtiennedeMartel Watching RedBull Battlegrounds, Twitch chat is giving me cancer
 
@sehe lol
 
user1804599
I’m so bored.
 
9:25 PM
Ah.
I see the problem.
 
user1804599
Welp, time to watch S4E1 I suppose.
 
It looks like there is no function object defined in <functional> for << and >>
If I were to define such a function object, what would it be called? left_shift, shift_left, something else?
 
Yup
 
potato
 
nope
 
user1804599
9:39 PM
perhaps
 
@CatPlusPlus that's that there chat protocol right?
 
that's that there o.O
 
CrossMePeePee
 
@Borgleader It's Twitch, what did you expect?
 
9:46 PM
I added the code tags to it initially. What do you mean by indent? — Always Errors 4 mins ago
lol...?
 
It's like they tried to combine the worst of Reddit and YouTube.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well usually I deal with Day[9]'s twitch chat which is well a lot more tame (probably because he has many many mods) but right now its a bunch of retards arguing about whether Scarlett is a guy or not.
 
I thought that was what YT v2 already achieved
 
@Borgleader Right, rabid transphobia. Pretty standard fare on the Internet.
 
@sehe oh now really, opening braces on new lines?
 
9:52 PM
....
@AlwaysErrors I've indented your code. — sehe 1 min ago
 
if you are going to clean up the code, clean it up :P
 
^ not a single Chinese word in there
If you're gonna read comments, bring reading comprehension
 
This AI is taking longer than expected.
 
You mean indent within the body of a function/class? Why? I simply didn't feel like it! The code was readable either way. Put more effort into it! — Always Errors 11 mins ago
lol
 
10:07 PM
I like how he argues about it being irrelevant, yet he can't even copy/paste code correctly
 
> I'm sorry, due to network errors, more common in the post, please delete the administrator
 
@thecoshman I know the basics of C++!! — Always Errors 12 mins ago
This double exclamation mark must make this true.
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel did you already see the episodes?
 
@rightfold Yes I did.
 
user1804599
Did you like them?
 
user1804599
10:11 PM
I just watched them.
 
4 hours ago, by Etienne de Martel
So, I'd give "Princess Twilight Sparkle" a 7/10.
 
user1804599
olol
 
@thecoshman Opening braces on new lines IS clean, as opposed to other options. runs away to avoid the heat from the incoming flame
 
user1804599
When is the next episode?
 
user1804599
ponycountdown.com is quite empty. :v
 
10:12 PM
@rightfold Next saturday.
 
user1804599
Nice. :)
 
At 10:00 (UTC-5)
 
Nah, ponies. It's the Day of the Doctor, not the day of ponies -.-
 
Plenty of Dr. Whooves puns were done today.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Burrowed banelings so goooooooooooooooooooooood
 
user1804599
10:22 PM
This turns me on.
 
It would be nice if I had one female friend I'm not crushing on or disgusted by.
Just one ;_;
 
user1804599
@Cicada.
 
@rightfold Cicada is not a girl
 
user1804599
My mother is not a girl either, but she’s a female.
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes In the end, I didn't shrug them off and we ended up getting a Visual Studio 2013 RTM-ready build of HgScc package, for people to use in the forseeable future with Mercurial and VS 2013: bitbucket.org/zzsergant/hgsccpackage/pull-request/2/…
 
user3010322
10:32 PM
I'm a community contributor~
 
@ThePhD you installed VS2008 D:
 
user3010322
A necessary evil.
 
I can't look at you right now
 
user3010322
I had to do it!
 
user3010322
You can't judge me!
 
Xeo
10:38 PM
@ThePhD Weakling
 
user3010322
It was for the good of Mankind.
 
user3010322
For my sacrifice, users everywhere can benefit from Mercurial Integration.
 
user3010322
It was a worthy cause.
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
user3010322
I wonder if my account on Github is academic enabled.
 
user3010322
10:44 PM
If so, maybe I could switch my major projects over from Mercurial to git and enjoy the native VS Git provider, even though it's crap compared to others.
 
Hrm.
Would A* be suitable for snake?
 
Feels kind of overkill
 
My current method is... not very good.
I need something that looks ahead more than 1 :\
Perhaps I can use this with recursion somehow.
 
@rightfold plausible
 
user1804599
hey what’s up
 
user1804599
10:55 PM
I saw a commercial on TV a few days ago from your old employer.
 
you know what's up
@rightfold they probably need 15 more to replace me :)
 
user1804599
 
Where is the link of robot's slides on the rule of zero
 
user1804599
10:59 PM
I am hungry.
 
In hindsight, it was probably a bad idea making an AI that can only look one move ahead.
 

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