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4:03 PM
Programming is always a tradeoff between bad and terrible
good doesn't actually exist
 
Are there any posts on SO that contain strlen() anywhere in them that do not have that call as a root cause of problems?
 
@FredOverflow and why is it followed by "in"?
 
@MartinJames lol
You can probably s/posts on SO/code somewhere/
 
> Are there any posts on SO
yes, terrible ones
@CatPlusPlus why did you have to fuel my cynicism again?
damn you
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes There is about one a day 'read data from file/network/whatever into a buffer and try to get length with strlen()' posts.
 
@TonyTheLion It's a self-fueling spiral of shit
 
@CatPlusPlus We're in it together apparently.
 
My code is good.
 
@StackedCrooked lol - that's rude
 
4:13 PM
It's from "taalvoutjes" a Facebook group that collects pictures of grammar and spelling mistakes.
 
> I am unable to open your attachments! I don't know why but it comes up blank.
Sigh.
 
Other than Tour of C++, is there a book for people who've done C++ before, but need to just quickly go over the basics again
 
> Torture is relative. I have a coal oven.
 
@MartinJames I don't recall its causing a problem here.
 
@JerryCoffin Well, apart from the continual string scanning in the OP code and you trying VERY hard to get rid of it in your answer, no, there is no problem :)
 
@MartinJames Oh, I'd agree there's a problem in the OP. I don't think there's one in my answer though. I'm not sure I'd call that "trying VERY hard" though -- it's just how you write code in C. It's probably also worth mentioning that gcc now recognizes that strlen returns the same value as long as it's given the same input, so it can/will hoist it out of the loop on its own.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah - I'm sure that optimizers are getting better. I suppose I should have specified 'OP posts' in my original rant :)
 
GCC could do that for a while
 
GCC: making poor code run faster since 1987.
 
4:29 PM
(Also another reason why having a concept of pure functions is a good idea)
 
In other news, I'm older than GCC.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm older than Turbo C.
 
Wow GCC is already 26 years old.
 
I've spent 1/4th of my life on SO
 
That means you are young which is good news.
 
Xeo
4:31 PM
Only 1/8th for me
 
We're sad people
 
I'm veto'ing that star!
 
I can live with that.
 
@Xeo Hmm...mathematically I've spent 0 percent of my life on SO (N/infinity = 0, for any finite N). :-)
 
Don't "upgrade" to Mavericks boys.
 
4:35 PM
Why do I always hear "Don't upgrade to <insert some Apple product's latest version>"?
 
I did..
 
OSX is never an upgrade
 
@rightfold Here.
 
@Jefffrey Damn - - your edit beat me to the basic idea I was just starting to write. "What would you have to start with for Mavericks to qualify as an upgrade?"
 
Lately I've reached the point were I could use Ubuntu as my main desktop system.
So I might switch to linux in the future.
 
4:37 PM
It doesn't like my wifi at all.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Why do I have a feeling this is not intended as a costume.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because they really only program for cool demos, not real use. In some cases, it seems questionable whether they're done anything approaching real testing at all.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It does make you 20% cooler.
 
That's thermally inefficient
 
@EtiennedeMartel A hoodie that makes you cooler. That's exactly what the world's been needing.
 
4:39 PM
@JerryCoffin Oh. I knew that. It was rhetorical.
 
Next up: "Fast food" -- just like fasting, it makes you thin (and hungry)!
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, you have to give me credit for at least resisting the urge to just say: "Because Apple sucks donkey dicks!"
 
me too
 
12 minutes for 2,8MB ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
 
@ScottW Yes
Lets
 
4:43 PM
eew
 
WTF bitbucket
 
I'm fairly satisfied, at least for the moment. This week has been a saga of nastiness. My wife wanted to switch cable providers so she could get The Filipino Channel. Since that was bundled with our Internet, that got switched too. Unfortunately, she swapped things around, so instead of hooking up the new served one day, and unhooking the old service after we were sure it was working, the old service was disconnected (early) one day, and the new not connected 'til (late) the next.
 
What is heterogeneous lookup for associative containers part of? C++1y or later?
 
Now they turn ++blah blah++ in a readme into underline text.
End result?
Readme contains "C++", all hell breaks loose.
Fuck you bitbucket.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes why, its awesome
 
user784668
Ahahahahahahahahahaha
 
lol
 
Murkdown 2.0
 
4:44 PM
Then, after ~14 hours, the new service died, and they couldn't send out a technician until this morning. Finally have (what seems to be) a stable connection again though, so now I'm happy.
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes Clearly you're not supposed to write in C++
 
@JerryCoffin A day without Internet is like a year without love.
 
@GamesBrainiac Why? Read just above?
 
@JerryCoffin And the Filipino Channel as well.
 
user784668
4:45 PM
> Many compilers currently support only a small subset of the interesting C features.
 
user784668
I love it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hahaha pwned
 
Decent features, like say, usable wiki permissions? No. Stupid crap like breaking Markdown parsing? Totally.
 
@Jefffrey Done yet?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Haha it affects wikis too.
 
4:46 PM
Bitbucket's markdown system is horrible
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes Host your hosting.
 
Those embedded wikis suck on both BB and GH anyway
 
@LucDanton Well, no, that's not working yet. Somehow the order got messed up, so they haven't connected the TV service at all yet.
 
BB has better permission system right now overall
 
I have a library for all your C11 and C14 needs!
 
4:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol. Why couldn't they go with ~~ ~~ like GH does?
 
user784668
@Rapptz What if I write in C~~?
 
Pff, discriminating C~~ users
 
lol
 
s/~~/++
 
@CatPlusPlus There are none, by definition. Nobody discriminating would use C~~.
 
4:47 PM
They should use private Unicode characters for markup
 
@Pawnguy7 I changed website from which to download the same file and everything went well.
 
@Jefffrey how did you do that?
 
@Pawnguy7 That was another application, not minecraft
 
Ah.
 
@ScottW You are in the shower - what would you get mugged for?
 
4:48 PM
How big is Java?
 
@MartinJames You sure you wanna know?
 
Minecraft luncher is downloaded, not it is updating himself.
 
user784668
@Pawnguy7 10 cm
 
@Pawnguy7 Yes.
 
@Pawnguy7 128,297 km²
 
4:49 PM
@Pawnguy7 Not much. It installed itself in 2 minutes.
 
I'm out of fucks to give for today
 
I'm suspecting it's a bug introduced as a side-effect of providing strikethrough.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, I have a nice line in cheap shower gel. Maybe there is an opportunity for new markets?
 
@StackedCrooked maybe what?
 
Before I waste a few hours implementing something myself, is anyone aware of a std::set like structure which would let you register observers (that get notified when the set changes)?
 
4:50 PM
Oh, I should probably add one more detail about why I'm fairly happy now though: where my previous connection was throttled to 20 Mbps, I'm now getting ~35MBps.
 
Niccce
 
@JerryCoffin That's neat.
 
Anyone gonna leave a comment on the issue page?
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel Here, some time ago. Also.
 
ISPs are preparing themselves for 1 Gbps.
Meanwhile, network card manufacturers are planning to skip the 40 Gbps card and go straight to 100 Gbps.
 
user1804599
4:52 PM
I’m going to cry in a corner.
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah -- and I can remember when I was ecstatic to be able to transfer files over 50 feet (or so) at a whopping 10 MBps... :-)
 
@rightfold Yeah - I'm feeling the same. Prospect of fiber to my house, approx. 0.
 
@JerryCoffin If you've been working with computers for several decades then you must have had a couple of those moments.
 
user1804599
Time to work on my compiler.
 
user784668
@MartinJames There's still a chance a fiber will quantum tunnel to your house.
 
4:54 PM
@rightfold Because I told you?
 
@rightfold your project compiler? so you can make space for more projects?
 
@rightfold <sigh> why doesn't someone write a new linker for a change:)
 
oh thats compactor my bad :P
 
@MartinJames He won't, don't worry.
 
@Fanael Yes, there is a chance, just after beer becomes free.
 
4:55 PM
Let's launch some crap into space
 
@MartinJames Because linkers are only necessary, not fun.
 
user784668
@MartinJames Because the international laws don't allow people to write linkers.
 
@Fanael Cruel and unusual punishment?
 
user784668
@MartinJames But why would you need fiber when beer is free?
 
@Fanael I would not, so that's saving me even more money:)
 
4:56 PM
@Fanael Beer helps you pee. Fiber helps you shit.
6
 
@JerryCoffin The thin, glass stuff that pipes light around - is that 'fiber' in US?
 
@MartinJames Yes, of course -- but remember: I never let reality get in the way of something I think is funny.
 
@JerryCoffin I was thinking more of the stuff that moves my shit around quickly:)
 
user784668
@MartinJames For that you need teleportation, not fiber.
 
@JerryCoffin OK, I thought I over-corrected for strange US spellings:)
 

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