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9:00 PM
But then again, we have hilarious bugs and general incompetence of PHP development team to cheer us up.
 
Ell
I hate everything!
 
@CatPlusPlus I won't take that as a personal insult
 
Ell
hmm I remember looking at falcon ages ago
I'm gonna have a refresh of it
 
Oh, hey, a PHP developer. I regret nothing.
 
@Ell That's smart. I'm using that methodology since recently too
 
9:03 PM
:P
 
E.g. I recently started hating C++ too ^^ (I.e. only the iterators. Still loving everything else)
 
@NikiC In case you are looking for the latest crop in gratuitous language-bashing (obviously, starring PHP or C++, mostly)...
I thought this was a real gem:
yesterday, by Cicada
bugs.php.net Why the subdomain?
 
@sehe good one :D
@sehe Nah, but I'm looking for insulting words ^^ I was sure that I could find them here, but it doesn't seem so :(
 
But you have to admit that "let's fix overflow bug by checking if variable is > INT_MAX" was hilarious.
 
@CatPlusPlus Which one was that? Don't remember that one right now
 
9:06 PM
Last I checked that code was still live.
 
@NikiC You'd expect to find some serious dastardliness in this, the caitiff's hangout
 
@CatPlusPlus That's hilarious
I.e. the sad kind of hilarious ^^
 
PHP is almost as hilarious as Bitcoin.
 
@CatPlusPlus Do you by change know which function that is about? I'd like to see what the source looks like now
@sehe dastardliness sounds funny ^^
 
@NikiC nefarious, morally reprehensible, nauseating, despicable, scurvy, nasty, abominable, loathsome, abject?
@NikiC it sounds... dastardly
 
9:13 PM
Ooooh, so many nice words
I knew that I can count on you @sehe
 
and that "final" code using sizeof(char) too....
 
@NikiC Nah.
 
@CatPlusPlus And there are more goodies like lxr.php.net/xref/PHP_TRUNK/ext/standard/string.c#134
It's doing a safe_emalloc to prevent integer overflows, but does the multiplication in one of the arguments...
 
Yeah, I don't even want to know.
Thankfully I don't have to write anything in PHP ever again, so I can just point and laugh at it.
 
@NikiC Next time: google e.g. vile and click on the 'more info' word link
 
9:20 PM
Seriously, why bother. There's so much better things, like Haskell.
 
@RadekSlupik That's why we refer to him as *the OP
@CatPlusPlus Relatively few ready made opensource CMS-es written in Haskell. Also, kinda hard to pull of on a 5$/month shared host
 
I wouldn't trust either.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, once you learned it, it's probably a nice language
 
That doesn't make PHP much less sucky a language, but it answers your question: "Seriously, why bother. There's so much better things, like Haskell.". It's not so rhetorical as you portray it. Obviously
@NikiC Oh, delicious ambiguity
 
Also, clckwrks has been released recently, so there'll probably be a decent ready o-s Haskell CMS soon.
 
9:23 PM
@sehe :P
 
@sehe Not really. I was more talking about writing PHP than using apps written in it.
 
Interesting. clckwrks.com <-- ow for webdesign
 
(Which is way more hilarious, because they're all buggy.)
 
@CatPlusPlus Well this go hand in hand
@CatPlusPlus Show me your bugfree apps :)
 
Well, I don't use my apps. Not that I ever finish them, either, so.
 
9:25 PM
@NikiC amagadwtf
 
@DeadMG I knew that you'd like it :D
 
But if you stick to the end, there is a tiny bit of reprieve:
5386 * Local variables:
5387 * tab-width: 4
5388 * c-basic-offset: 4
5389 * End:
5390 * vim600: noet sw=4 ts=4 fdm=marker
5391 * vim<600: noet sw=4 ts=4
5392 */
 
what?
 
@DeadMG Nothing for you. No IDE, no Microsoft, no C++ Wide, nothing interesting
 
what makes you think that I #define Microsoft INTERESTING?
 
9:34 PM
Anyways, I'm off to bed. I'm half-dead as it is.
 
all I've pointed out is that Unix and Mac have the user-friendlyness of the wrong end of an automatic shotgun
 
@DeadMG Grep chat. Job done
Does remind me somewhat of...
computers
 
           m$
enough said.
 
@DeadMG Are you feeling tired?
 
sbi
 
9:44 PM
@sbi Do you have vacation now?
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay Nope. But I will in two weeks.
 
Nice =)
 
sbi
Why? It would be much nicer to have vacation now and in two weeks.
 
It would be even nicer to be a multi millionaire and never ever have to work
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay I violently disagree.
 
9:48 PM
However, that doesn't exclude the fact that it is nice to soon have a vacation :)
 
sbi
If your life is one big vacation, then how are you going to have a vacation from the daily routine?
 
I'm talking about the choice of never HAVE to work. I would most likely work with something
@sbi Have you seen this?
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay But a vacation isn't necessarily about being lazy. (Some of the best vacations I had involved weeks of hiking with 20-30kg on my back, or kayaking, or bicycling hundreds of km.) A vacation is first and foremost a means to escape your daily routine and do something you enjoy. (Note that doesn't mean you don't enjoy your job.) If you are free to do what you enjoy everyday, this, too, will become routine. Only you're bereft of a means to escape.
 
It's crazy
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay Wow. Amazing. I don't think I have seen this sport in 30 years.
 
9:56 PM
@sbi Are you planning on visiting Sweden on your vacation? A lot of Germans travel here. Especially looking for teh Moose.
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay I can't afford traveling with the kids for vacation this year. I very much hope the weather will be nice and we can just stay in our garden, maybe visit the two zoos in Berlin, or a museum, occasionally.
 
@ManofOneWay woah...
 
sbi
I would very much like to visit Sweden once, though. I'd really like to hike the Hardangervidda one day.
 
Actually, it's in Norway
(I looked it up)
 
@ManofOneWay In which part of the US is that city?
 
10:01 PM
new Solitaire record 2:11
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay Wow. That was truly stupid. What am I messing this up with?
 
here's another crazy sport
 
@sbi Kebnekaise maybe?
@Mysticial Crazy =)
How is California btw?
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay No, I don't think so. Hides head in shame.
I bet California is Californicating.
 
@ManofOneWay I'm not in California. :)
 
10:07 PM
Why have you left? =)
 
anyone know anything about grabbing stream content off websites?
 
@FredOverflow Congratz
 
Ell
hi guys
can anyone tell me what a "tgi fuglys" is? some kind of restaurant?
 
@sbi Would you mind reading my CV in the near future if you have the time, and give me some feedback?
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay I might not, but you also might not get much out of it.
 
10:28 PM
@Ell TGI Friday is an american chain of restaurants AFAIK
At least when I lived in south america that's what it was
And fugly is shorthand for "fucking ugly"
TGI fugly, idk.
But TGI means "Thank God It's". So tgi fugly => thank god it's fucking ugly
Makes sense ?
 
Ell
right kk I think its a micky take of it then
@cicada yeah makes sense thanks :) I just saw it on Jake and amir :L
anybody watch that?
 
Wow. The lady is a meme and internet slang database
 
@sehe Uh. These ones are really basic.
 
@TonyTheLion The other top comment was also funny "i wonder what the brunette's dad thinks of that little blondie when she comes over?"
 
10:38 PM
lol
 
@TonyTheLion The top comment is currently at +59
 
sbi
Oh, we do have a lady here? That's news to me.
 
lol
did a jobinterview today
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion And are you gonna hire the guy?
 
interesting company
@sbi I was at the receiving end
 
sbi
10:42 PM
@TonyTheLion You received the candidate?
 
you ape
ffs
 
sbi
Now you're being nice!
Tell us about your interview, @Tony.
 
it was fairly good
they asked me to write them a string reverse in C on paper
 
sbi
Well, that was an easy one, no?
 
fairly
I had never written string reversal in c myself, and definitely not with 4 people watching
 
sbi
10:45 PM
Ah, that can be demanding then.
 
anyways, I would love to work for them, seems like a nice place, and there's lots I can learn from working there
I think
 
sbi
Well, good luck then!
 
sbi
Time for a never-ending party? (It's for us old farts, who where young when NES came out.)
 
I was young when NES came out. However, never used one/seen one.
 
sbi
10:53 PM
Wry smile. Never-ending Story.
 
So... googling that. The youtube links is somehow jinxed for me
 
Hey reminds me of a few other books
@sbi Yeah, I said I was googling it. That was obviously the first hit (I clicked, at least). Why is the title in German?
Is probably a German classic novel, but I was previously unaware of it
 
NES is the best console ever
 
sbi
> The Neverending Story (German: Die unendliche Geschichte) is a German fantasy novel by Michael Ende, first published in 1979. — Wikipedia
^ @sehe
 
10:57 PM
Ah. fantasy novel. I have read precious few of the genre.
 
Oh the Neverending Story is great
 
sbi
@sehe Oh. Also, the movie is a Merkin/German co-production, and seems to have been first released in German.
 
And sucks
 
sbi
@Cicada Which movies do not suck, compared to the books they were made after?
 
Some are actually good
 
sbi
11:00 PM
Which movies...
 
Harry Potter
 
sbi
Epic Fail. Many of those suck badly, compared to the books.
 
Maybe your tastes suck.
 
Do you have a better expression than "On my own I developed...". I believe there is a better expression than "On my own.."?
 
sbi
@Cicada Just read the second book again, and then watch the second movie. They turned the story into a bad FX spectacle.
@ManofOneWay In my spare time...?
 
11:02 PM
I'm not saying they are perfect nor that all the movies are good
 
@sbi No no, I want to say that I alone developed an application at a company
 
But overall the 8 movies are rather fidel to the original storyline, and good.
"I alone developed"?
 
Is "I alone" better than "On my own"?
My english is not that good
 
Why not ask on english.se ?
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay No, both suck. Working in company is much better.
 
Ell
11:03 PM
"I alone" is fine and common
 
"On my own I developed an iPhone application for monitoring a system used for protein analysis and identification."
@sbi That's the sentence
 
sbi
@Cicada Some aren't bad, but compared to the books, most fall short, are rather shallow, and put too much emphasize on FX.
 
@sbi You said they aren't bad. Implying they do not suck. Win.
 
sbi
Shrug. Yes, child, you are, of course, absolutely right. Now please brush your teeth and go to bed. No, I won't read a story. It's too late already. Maybe tomorrow?
 
I'm busy trying to comfort a friend who has serious health problem.
 
sbi
11:06 PM
Oh. I am sorry. Be strong.
 
@sbi Are you ready to read my CV?
 
I don't have to be strong. He has.
 
sbi
Comforting others sucks strength like nothing else.
 
I'm fairly well detached from human emotions.
I comfort people because I can and because it costs me nothing.
People come to talk to me about their private problems for no reason.
Some don't even know me. I don't know why they even talk about that. For some reason I attract them.
And well, that guy is seriously broken.
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay Yes, but not tonight. It's 1am here, and I really outta go to bed. But I can look at it tomorrow, if you send it now.
@Cicada You have my sympathy.
 
11:09 PM
@sbi Thanks. Give me an email and I'll send it to ya
 
sbi
@ManofOneWay I won't publish my email here. If you think it's Ok for you, flash yours here, and I'll send you mine.
Got it. You can delete it.
 
sbi
11:21 PM
Well, I sent you a mail, @Man, so you have an email address of me now.
I should really go to bed now.
Good night!
 
@sbi Yes, thanks, I'll send it to you in 10 minutes, so you will have it tomorrow. Good night ! =)
 
Ell
@cicada people miht go to you even though they don't know you because they have nobody else
and they are the people who need it most
 
sbi
Also, sometimes it's easier to talk with strangers about your problems.
 
Ell
I agree :)
esp. through a screen
 
@sbi Now I've sent it =)
 
Ell
11:26 PM
its a lot easier to type things than speak them
sort of a curse sometimes
ooh I could do with a bacon sarnie right now
@cicada I don't know if this is too personal or not, but what do you mean you are detached from your emotions? you mean you don't get angry or sad or you don't react to the emotions or what?
if its too personal just tell me I'm being a nosey parker
or maybe I'm just talking to myself and actually there is nobody here :L
well
php is far superior to c++
 
11:43 PM
no, there is no one here
 
Ell
damnit I was just about to say
 
@BenVoigt There are, just lurking...
 
Ell
speak now if you disagree
 
@Ell That sort of claim is so obviously false no response is needed.
 
Ell
well I'm gonna sleep since I have nothing better to do
 

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