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1:04 PM
that reminds me
I was going to ruthlessly steal more of someone else's intellectual property
 
What are you taking about?
 
you fiend
 
downloading more peep show
 
actually, I didn't really enjoy watching it
so I'mma skip
 
1:06 PM
@CatPlusPlus Why does that thing need Qt?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes It'll be one of the drivers, won't need it if you don't want it.
I want to have something working while I work on standalone ones.
 
So I can't build that without Qt yet?
 
I'll work on it today. After I finish daily KoL stuf.
 
@CatPlusPlus kol?
 
Kingdom of Loathing. It's fun, go play it.
 
1:08 PM
naw
I'm rolling the mental dice
work further on RTS, or, work further on Wide, or, work further on SHA-2
 
Don't work!
 
are you implementing SHA-2 or finding weaknesses?
 
That's bad for your health.
 
@awoodland Trying to break it.
@RMartinhoFernandes No, I'm resuming work because my health has gone back up. Somewhat.
 
@CatPlusPlus I haven't played KoL in a year or two. What have I missed?
 
1:15 PM
@SamDeHaan I've been playing for two months or so.
They revamped PvP recently.
 
@CatPlusPlus Ah, gotcha. I'll have to do some research then. Last time I played was right around when Hobopolis was new/big.
 
lol his second example has a buffer overflow
 
lol, didn't even notice that.
 
Why would anyone want more than one (or maybe two) dimensions?
 
1:21 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Poor college education level :)
 
perhaps some TMP accident?
 
! puppy was wrong
 
I suck at quoting the Standard
 
hello, I am the new reformed std::OrnglDave, I am now more standards-compliant and will be less of a troll.
 
I was just thinking, I thought I added you to my ignore list
which was probably uncalled for, I was just feeling grumpy
 
1:23 PM
I thought so too :-P
no it was probably called for, I got pretty troll-y
 
ok
 
don't want to be that way anymore though
 
@stdOrgnlDave Understatement of the year.
 
big waste of time
 
it was totally your fault, your behaviour was bad and you should feel bad!
 
1:23 PM
Had a nice night of sleep, eh?
 
people here do actually have valid wisdom and good questions sometimes, there's no reason to burn bridges
 
Hm, I just got a 502 error while accessing MSDN.
 
why are so many things to do with Zoidberg so damn funny?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes what would a robot know about sleep?
 
1:24 PM
@EtiennedeMartel In my experience, it often fails to load.
 
Actually, anyone got the same issue? msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/…
 
What's 502?
 
bad gateway
 
Murderous assailant on the loose?
 
waiting for it to load
 
1:25 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Same.
 
nothing is coming back for me
 
"There is a problem with the page you are looking for, and it cannot be displayed. When the Web server (while acting as a gateway or proxy) contacted the upstream content server, it received an invalid response from the content server."
 
ah yeah, 502 now
 
hey let's put it on /. see if anyone there can find the problem ;-) ;-)
 
Funny stuff.
I guess I'll have to work around then.
 
1:26 PM
@stdOrgnlDave I need to know a lot about humans. It's part of the mission.
 
XAML is cool, until you realize you have to do it in C# instead.
 
XAML sucks
 
Oh, you.
 
@EtiennedeMartel you are doing the dreaded C#? :-(
 
kek
 
1:26 PM
I knew that was coming.
 
@stdOrgnlDave C#'s not that bad
 
Standard issue DeadMG reply: "<X> sucks"
 
I mean, it still sucks, of course
but not that badly
once you get past the Object noobery and the "everything must be in a class" idiocy and that sort of thing
 
The funny thing here is that the two biggest haters amongst the regulars are a dog and a cat.
2
 
1:27 PM
the ape and the lion have both been known to do their fair share of snapping
 
@DeadMG didn't say it was. it's great for things. so is VB.net. Java even is good for some things. so is the original BASIC. but I still dread it.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Not Java. That's not good for anything.
 
@DeadMG it's good for teaching people how not to create a language and tie it to a VM
 
@stdOrgnlDave VB.NET isn't good. "Same features as C#, now with 300% more verbosity!"
 
1:28 PM
@EtiennedeMartel ... plus XML literals, minus iterator blocks!
 
@EtiennedeMartel yet it can make basic applications 400% faster...it has uses
 
@RMartinhoFernandes 400% then.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Screw the VM, it's good for teaching people how not to create a language.
 
@DeadMG Tony only snaps when they're not great
 
@stdOrgnlDave Who wants BASIC applications? Rewrite that crap.
 
1:29 PM
lion is close enough to tiger
 
Hmmmm. The 80's really liked BASIC a lot.
 
@stdOrgnlDave FYI, it's not the 80's any more
 
and hasn't been for a long time
 
It will, someday.
 
@CatPlusPlus rofl.
 
1:30 PM
@thecoshman He used to go by "Tony the Tiger".
 
@RMartinhoFernandes shh you with your technically correct
@RMartinhoFernandes excellent...
 
aaargh
 
actually there's still a community (it's an important large community if you're part of it) of people who are old computer enthusiasts and still type in hundreds-of-lines-long variations on pong all night for fun
 
push connector back in, screen still pink
 
so BASIC is good for that
 
1:31 PM
Now I have to go through some old code and force the invariant culture for bindings because my computer's current culture (fr-CA) means that parsing a double such as 1.0 fails because . is not the decimal separator in French.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That is so freaking sweet.
 
@stdOrgnlDave your argument is bad, you should feel bad
 
french canadian is the best canadian! unless you're a secret english canadian robot like @RMartinhoFernandes
 
@stdOrgnlDave Nothing is better when it's French.
 
The Robot is a Red leaf man?
 
1:32 PM
@DeadMG Oh, vous.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Ok, Imma break the truth to you: I don't particularly like French. I like French Canadians even less.
 
@thecoshman that is my theory. he gets very sensitive when you mention him being from Canada.
 
But the Robot isn't Canadian, he probably wouldn't last 5 seconds at -40.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I would! I prefer the cold
 
@RMartinhoFernandes self-hate is bad for robots, too
 
1:33 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes I take that as a no. Portuguese right?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Damn.
 
@thecoshman Yep.
 
@DeadMG I go with the logic, when it's cold, I can put jumpers on. When I'm hot, all I can do is sit naked and sweaty
 
There is no such thing as best Canadian. Only less bad Canadian.
 
Portugal is one of those nations where, surprisingly, the English have no hate of them
 
1:35 PM
@thecoshman That's what she said.
 
I mean, the French, the Germans, and for some reason, the English have a particular dislike for Belgian people
and the Spanish.. and Italians
but not Portuguese
 
@DeadMG We share the oldest alliance still in effect.
 
@DeadMG We don't 'hate' those nations, just... erm... really dislike them
 
@RMartinhoFernandes That I did not know.
 
OK, off to continue watching 3d Dances in Wolves with Blue Monkeys. I haven't seen the original, I hear it's good
 
1:35 PM
The Anglo-Portuguese Alliance, ratified at the Treaty of Windsor in 1386, between England (succeeded by the United Kingdom) and Portugal is claimed to be the oldest alliance in the world which is still in force — with the earliest treaty dating back to the Anglo-Portuguese Treaty of 1373. This alliance, which goes back to the Middle Ages, has served both countries. It was very important throughout history, influencing the participation of the United Kingdom in the Iberian Peninsular War, the UK's major land contribution to the Napoleonic Wars and the establishment of an Anglo-American ba...
 
@DeadMG we dislike the Belgian people? but they make the tasty chocolate!
 
@DeadMG why do they hate Belgians?
 
@thecoshman That's why I eat Belgian chocolate, not Belgian people.
 
@rubenvb No idea.
 
user784668
1:36 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes lol
 
apparently it's just popular
 
to be fair, you could probably list any European nation (other then Belgium) and there would be a reason the English dislike them
 
that video is a lie
 
(Fun fact: that beer tastes like piss)
 
I have a friend who went to college in Canada and he pronounces it aboot
he was only there 4 years
 
1:37 PM
Though, it would mostly be "Dey tuck are joobs"
 
user784668
@thecoshman What about Albania?
 
@EtiennedeMartel "this was canada in the year 2000, folks. enjoy it while it lasts."
lol
 
@Fanael no decent holiday locations
 
next
 
1:38 PM
Canada is 10 years behind. it is currently 2003 in Canada and they are currently ratifying the C++03 standard.
 
user784668
@stdOrgnlDave lol
 
But, yeah, I don't really consider myself a Canadian. Juridically, yes, but otherwise I don't feel like it's my country.
Vive le Québec Libre, that kind of shit.
 
Rebel.
 
You're a separatist?
 
1:40 PM
Do you have guns?
 
No. Nobody in Quebec has guns.
 
Then you're not a separatist.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes there's a lot of seperatists without guns in Belgium
No guns is the new Ghandi, man, where have you been?
 
Hey, may I remind you that there was a period in Quebec history named the Quiet Revolution (révolution tranquille)?
 
@EtiennedeMartel shh, keep it down
 
1:42 PM
Named so because it was a revolution, but without guns.
 
We have a military coup against a military dictatorship last century without casualties. :P
 
I have one last comment to make, the archery in Avatar is stupid. more stupid than any other aspect of it. the blue monkeys are the stupidest beings in the universe to have not mastered archery.
 
That's one level below our own velvet revolution? :)
 
Probably.
@stdOrgnlDave What? They can slice a human in half with their arrows.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Avatar is a shit film, enough said
 
1:43 PM
@EtiennedeMartel but they could slice them in half more accurately and more powerfully with their arrows if they could figure out how to shoot them right
 
Prometheus will be awesome.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I hope so
 
@RMartinhoFernandes that's what you thought about I, Robot and you were wrong.
 
I'm starting to fear I'm building up too much expectations and will end up disappointed.
 
OK, really, time to go watch it mroe
 
1:43 PM
No, it will suck.
 
@stdOrgnlDave They shoot them right. I don't recall a Na'vi missing in the movie. Except when Plot Armor is engaged, of course.
 
All prequels suck.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I fear that too...
 
@stdOrgnlDave I never had any expectations about I, Robot. And I'm an Asimov fan.
@wilx It's not a prequel. It's a story set in the same universe years before. :P
 
Also: I really miss ngindex. are there any good replacements?
 
1:44 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes aka, prequel
 
@RMartinhoFernandes: That sounds like a definition of prequel :D
 
@EtiennedeMartel no, they don't, and many prominent members of international archery societies and leagues have spoken up about how stupid their archery is. they do it because it looks cool, not because it's anatomically possible.
 
yeah, productivity has been so high, I've learnt a new pen trick
 
@thecoshman Only if the story works as a precursor or backstory to the original, in my view.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes which AFAIK, this is
 
1:45 PM
if you want a cool archery movie check out War of the Arrows, though you have to slog through 45 minutes of Korean drama before any cool stuff happens.
 
Scott has said otherwise, numerous times.
 
it's on Netflix.
 
They AFAIK find the same ship Ripley et al do in Alien.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Waaaaait a minute, movies do things wrong? /mindblown
 
:3837444 "and the rest"
 
@stdOrgnlDave I admit to using GWBASIC to whip out a quick nullmodem test application. Just simply, because I knew how to do that. It was 15 years ago.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes you know, we able to search that site our selves
 
user784668
Is it implementation-defined in C++03 which function will be called (or if it's ambiguous) in: #include <cstddef> void f(short) {} void f(int) {} int main() { f(NULL); }?
 
@stdOrgnlDave Let's not forget that your average Na'vi is like 8 feet tall and has bones reinforced with carbon fiber.
 
but the thing is that you don't NEED to do archery a stupid way for it to be cool. see: hunger games, war of the arrows
 
1:48 PM
@thecoshman But how can you know the names of the tropes unless you've seen them before?
 
@Fanael: Looks like f(int) should be called.
 
You could also cut the crap and just use guns. Guns are better.
 
@Fanael you can be explicit by doing f((short)NULL);
 
@Fanael It's implementation-defined.
 
@EtiennedeMartel guns are noisy and they aren't as fun
 
1:49 PM
NULL can be 0, 0L, ((short)0), among others.
 
@thecoshman we used to be able to search that site for ourselves. Now we don't have to, we have the robot.
 
user784668
@RMartinhoFernandes It is because the exact definition of NULL is implementation-defined, am I right?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes new flash: not a single fuck is given
@SamDeHaan shame it' stuck on "spam tvtropes" mode
 
Really, the one time linking to TVTropes is relevant I get chastised for doing it?
 
@thecoshman Could be worse. import skynet
 
1:50 PM
@DeadMG And it won't be for the longest time
 
@stdOrgnlDave They're deadlier, and easier to use. Plus, guns can be as cool as bows.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You can make gunbows.
With lasers.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes <insert some link to tvtropes about something>
@SamDeHaan this is worse
 
@RMartinhoFernandes And sharks.
 
@sehe Surely it wouldn't be the 80s again for the longest time in 1990.
 
1:51 PM
@thecoshman It's a <trope>Fate Worse Than Death</trope>.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes It's always relevant.
Even when it's not.
(Wrap your head around that)
 
@EtiennedeMartel I bet there's a trope for that.
 
@thecoshman The robot never spams tvtropes. It spams SO chat
 
@RMartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ not so bad I guess
 
@DeadMG Longester
 
1:53 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes I think I need to see a meta post requesting one boxing TV tropes links.
 
@SamDeHaan Hofstadters law
 
@RMartinhoFernandes (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
I have to admit I'm also a rather avid troper.
@thecoshman Did you copy that from my profile?
 
Is there any question on SO describing how you should read lines from a file correctly in C++? I just saw this question that uses if (!in.eof())
 
1:54 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes The only offensive about all those trope links, is the fact that they all contain pmwiki .php <-- RAAAAEEEEEGE!
 
@EtiennedeMartel what does that even mean? that you enjoy reading up on tropes? or what?
 
@thecoshman I enjoy pissing in your cereals by linking tropes here.
 
And it's not the first time. something that could be linked to, perhaps in the FAQ?
 
@EtiennedeMartel nope, autohotkey script I type "tableflip" and I get "(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻"
 
@thecoshman Doesn't really answer the question though
 
1:55 PM
@EtiennedeMartel and what does that mean?
 
@thecoshman "Pissing in your cereals" means "ruining your day"
 
@sehe the question was 'Did I copy that from his profile', I think 'nope' answers that pretty damn well
@EtiennedeMartel TIL
 
@RMartinhoFernandes thanks!
 
@thecoshman The useless elaboration made 'nope' ambiguous. You might have copied it from his profile into your autohotkeys script.
 
1:56 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes ey, you commented before me..
 
user784668
@Default It's because robots > humans.
 
@sehe in which case I would have said "yeah, I have it it an autohotkey script..."
 
@Fanael :)
 
This orange is waaayyy too juicy.
 
1:59 PM
That's what she said?
I'm trying to get the hang of this.
 
Not bad. But you need practice
 

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