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11:01 PM
Ok, back.
Recommended book:
Problem Solving with C++, Second edition
Bonus points if you find that edition online somewhere for purchase.
 
online pdf free, legally
 
Well, that works too.
 
ah woops
mis-read your book title there
 
Hopefully the course isn't too hard and those 20 weekly hours of programming can be reserved for learning something useful.
 
11:03 PM
yea true :)
 
@TonyTheTiger Yea, this, but in that edition minus three. Well, I think so.
 
huh? that edition minus three???
 
Problem Solving with C++, second edition.
 
> This edition fully embraces the latest ANSI/ISO standards, features an all-new chapter on the STL, and includes expanded coverage of namespaces.
And this is the 5th edition.
 
Oh, I had some fun with photoshop last night:
 
11:06 PM
Meaning the 2nd edition won't have a single mention of the STL.
:(
 
 
Read the fine print to lol even more ;-)
It's so beautiful. The default iOS wallpaper works wonders in the hurricane cutout.
Anyway, </shamelessplug>
 
hahah
 
11:08 PM
So... Who wants to be my unteacher this semester? As in, go over all of the nonsense I learn and explain why it's bad practice.
 
so how bad was the storm?
 
Woo, I managed to do a search-and-replace in vim.
 
@Moshe The chat in general is very appropriate for that.
 
@CatPlusPlus You're my hero.
 
Well, not sure if the timezones will be in your favour.
 
11:09 PM
@TonyTheTiger Not. A few trees. A self congratulatory mayor. No subway system. Threats of preemptive power cuts. I don't even know if I can get to school tomorrow, considering the lack of public transit.
 
Most of us here are in the Old World.
 
most people on here are European I think
 
Ah, well, that works just as well. I usually am awake fairly late, although that may need to change.
 
@Moshe so the media hyped it up again for no reason
 
'Mighty Yuropialand' is more exotic though. A shame SO won't recognize it.
 
11:10 PM
@TonyTheTiger Well, no, not for no reason. The reason is because that's what they're paid for. :-)
 
@Moshe well it sucks being paid to scare the shit out of people and cause panic when not needed
 
To be fair, @TonyTheTiger, there were 10 deaths overall, and some areas were flooded. In most of the city, though, it was hype.
 
Does that include surfers?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes think so
 
@Moshe yea I can gather that, but to make it sound like half the city is going to die and be swept away by this storm, is too much, 10 deaths by itself is bad enough, no need to make it worse
 
11:12 PM
But I can't claim to have pity on folks who surf when warned that they could die even if they're not surfing.
@TonyTheTiger Agreed.
 
In other news, what interesting project could I compile with Code::Blocks on my MacBook?
 
To quote Morbo: "the situation is expected to deteriorate, as newscasters whip the city into a panic".
4
 
Again, there are strong winds, but still, it's a melted blizzard, we've seen worse.
 
11:14 PM
@Moshe As in existing projects that you want to look at the code, or interesting projects for you to write?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes existing. I'd like to take something that exists and examine C++ like that.
I gotta run now, be back in a little bit, thanks for the great conversation.
 
That might be hard.
 
And feel free to paste in some project links here.
 
Considering most code in existence suck.
 
11:16 PM
@CatPlusPlus Why? Well commented? Open Source? Does that not exist?
 
boost
oh noes, that's too difficult
 
Well, I'm not a new programmer, just new to C++.
 
Too many templates in there. I'm pretty sure his course won't cover templates.
 
Okay, really, be back in a bit.
Tchüß!
 
Not that many comments IME either.
 
11:17 PM
bye
 
What's Tchüß?
No germans left in the room?
 
German for bye
 
I can confirm that.
 
Gosh, am I the only one here that treats German as Gibberish?
(no offense)
 
@CatPlusPlus Fire can fuck?
 
11:20 PM
It's the most wonderful language I know!
 
@DeadMG Rule 34.
 
true
 
Yeah, fire will fuck you up, that's for sure.
 
lol
@LucDanton I agree
 
Why is GCC complaining here about 'casting between pointer-to-function and pointer-to-object'?
 
11:23 PM
@LucDanton Du sprichst Deutsch?
 
Wow, I understood that.
 
Ein bisschen :)
 
SDL_GL_GetProcAddress returns void*
(I assume)
 
holy terrible casts and shit Batman
 
11:23 PM
@LucDanton Is that "a little"?
Ein is one, so...
 
Not my code.
It probably should be using GLEW, or something, but hell.
 
but (PFNGLSHADERSOURCEARBPROC) is a function pointer
 
@LucDanton you learned in School?
 
void* can't be assumed to be able to hold a function pointer
 
Okay, so another painful C-ism of SDL.
 
11:24 PM
@awoodland It can on all systems that SDL supports, I'm pretty sure
 
@CatPlusPlus Why the fuck are you reinventing GLEW?
 
that makes that cast perfectly well defined on any platform that the code could possibly hope to work on anyway
 
possibly pre-dates glew?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Not my code.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yes. Etymology for that is biss for 'bite', -chen is a diminutive suffix.
@TonyTheTiger So I did. Also some from relatives.
 
11:25 PM
@LucDanton kewl
 
It most certainly doesn't predate GLEW. :P
 
@DeadMG - gcc has no way of knowing that SDL won't run where that cast would fail
 
Would reinterpret_cast shut it up?
 
@CatPlusPlus Ok, why are you using that crap instead of GLEW?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Again, none of this is my code. :P
 
11:26 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes it's not HIS CODE
 
The whole renderer is written and maintained by someone else.
I just want to shut up the compiler.
 
@awoodland That's G++, not GCC, and I'm pretty sure that it only targets platforms which work that way
 
I think reinterpret_cast is indeed the way to shut it up
 
Google says no.
And that it's probably POSIXism, since dlsym returns void*.
 
Posix recommends *(foo**)&p = ...
'Works' with either data or function pointer.
 
11:29 PM
Yeah, POSIX is strange.
 
And the cast is possibly implementation defined in C++ so it's win-win, isn't it?
 
@DeadMG I think G++ works on AVR these days, which is Harvard isn't it?
 
Oh, hell, I'll rip this out completely and replace it with GLEW.
 
Oh, he finally understood me.
 
Shush.
 
11:33 PM
> Every single one of your ancestors have successfully gotten laid at least once.
 
CCCCombo-breaker!
 
Why don't adoptive ancestors get any credit :(
 
Woo
KeyLemon
Is great
I love unlocking my computer with my face :D
 
What.
 
11:39 PM
@LucDanton In fact, they do get some minor credit:
Lucy was adopted. And the one from Hastings too.
 
lol
 
Oh wait, Lucy was not adopted.
Whatever.
 
pwnt#
 
> I understand you were unhappy that pictures from Twitter are used on BBC programmes as you feel it may be a breach of copyright. Twitter is a social network platform which is available to most people who have a computer and therefore any content on it is not subject to the same copyright laws as it is already in the public domain. The BBC is aware of copyright issues and is careful to abide by these laws.
wat
 
Someone's confusing public with public domain.
You retain all rights to your tweeted content.
 
11:46 PM
that may not be how the laws are in the UK
 
Haha, no.
 
that is how the laws are in the UK
just a braindead reply from someone @BBC
 
there are certain fair uses of copyrighted material, and without specific detail, it would be impossible to know whether or not it falls under such
 
@DeadMG It is not in the public domain though.
 
There was a follow up to that silly reply that cleared up things.
 
Twitter Copyright Policy

We claim no intellectual property rights over the material you provide to the Twitter service. Your profile and materials uploaded remain yours. You can remove your profile at any time by deleting your account. This will also remove any text and images you have stored in the system.

http://twitter.com/terms

US Copyright Information

The original authorship appearing on a website may be protected by copyright. This includes writings, artwork, photographs, and other forms of authorship protected by copyright.
 
Is it me or are those terms fairer than most?
(I didn't read all of it.)
 
@LucDanton Twitter also gets a super-duper license to do as it pleases with the content.
Including sublicensing.
 
That's... more of the same then.
 
I love how Creative Commons has this kind of notice on their site:
> This is a human-readable summary of the Legal Code (the full license).
"human-readable" lol
 
11:55 PM
Why are there so many SC2 tournaments nowadays? How can one get any sleep?
 
By not partaking in all of them?
 
But that won't stop the live stream from hijacking my brain!
 
The BBC and the Mail are both guilty of Copyright breach if you ask me
 
For the BBC thingy though I'd leave the matter to lawyers.
 

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