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10:01 PM
i forgot that i bought vanilla ice cream
i will have some, with coffee!
 
@AlfPSteinbach mean :( i wanna have some too
lol
 
why isn't there a custom made IRCd running to act as a proxy between this web chat and a proper IRC client?
 
@Pubby I've read the code, it sucks, and it's not made to handle more than one user.. that sucks to.
@JohannesSchaublitb greetings from a fellow ##c++:er ;)
 
10:08 PM
sucks? I though hewgill knew what he was doing
 
greetings back xD
 
@Pubby have you looked at the implementation?
 
@refp Don't know enough python to judge
 
Judges need to know python now?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb don't think you know who I am though, not that active any more
 
10:11 PM
Haha .. eh.
 
@refp yeah I have i clue who you are xD
 
@JohannesSchaublitb but.. but.. how?
 
I was about to send you a picture and be like; "guess my nick, bitch!" haha
 
aaahaha
plz do
 
10:12 PM
I wonder if that will work
 
ah i know you
you showed us that website with a pic of you xD
 
ah yeah, refp the picture guy! haha
 
(edoceo` @ freenode)
 
indeed taht was teh nick
 
10:14 PM
0
Q: C plus plus : Advantages/Disadvantages of using methods of class without instantiating

meandbobbymcgeeIn c plus plus we can calls method of a class without instantiating it. Such as; MyClass mc; mc.method(); what are the advantages&disadvantages of using methods of class without instantiating it? When should we use this type?

 
should we race and answer his question?
 
wait til the starting gun
 
Xeo
The comment already answered, and I don't feel like answering if there's already an answer, even if only in the form of a comment
 
5 edits, wow
 
i dont know what "using methods of class without instantiating" means
 
Xeo
10:17 PM
Damn
We weren't fast enough to close it before answers appeared
 
@JohannesSchaublitb he means using a class without passing any parameters to it, to rephrase his question; "why have an object instance if you are not passing anything into it to make it 'unique', can't we just use static functions instead?".. I think
 
Isn't marcelo's answer wrong?
 
though, that was a valid question..
why the fcuk did you close it?
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb ((foo*)NULL)->bar()
:)
 
10:18 PM
i think it's not enough that one can put a half meaningful spin on a question
it think the question must be meaningful as presented
 
I could
 
although it does not need to be meaningful to half-wits
for example
6
Q: Programmatically copying a CD, byte for byte

A.R.I was wondering if anyone knew of a way in which I can just make a byte for byte copy of the data on a CD via programming? Are there some system calls available that can do this stuff? I have a CD that is somehow corrupted or otherwise damaged, making some of the files inaccessible through expl...

was closed as off-topic, moved to super-user, moved back again, reopened
 
cpx
!
 
That CD question was on-topic, although his actual problem should have gone on super user
 
Xeo
Yay, screen flickering
 
10:20 PM
I hate when I answer questions and they move over to some other board where I don't even have an account
 
Yay, reopen wars.
 
Xeo
And it depends on the angle of the laptop
 
shit, this chat application is bad bad bad..
 
i would like a higher frequency monitor, like the old one (only larger)
 
10:21 PM
lol
 
i often see much flickering in movies
i see SINGLE FRAMES in movies
 
you have superhuman vision?
 
when something moves across the screen
it is very annoying
 
@alf perhaps you have unusually powerful eyes
 
i hoped for long that they would at least quadruple the frame rate
 
10:21 PM
You know what the problem is? Letting total programming newbies use C++.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb and I was about to answer his question with a random number stream, and maybe you get where I'm going after that
@CatPlusPlus the real problem is this chat, I keep tabbing out of this input box..
 
@JohannesSchaublitb no it's just that their freaking theory is wrong. it's not the absolute frame rate. it's the angle of vision an object moves per time unit that determines whether human visual system sees smooth movement or individual still photos
 
or well it was "this" input box, but when pressing enter I guess it's "that"
 
10:22 PM
what does it mean "random number stream"
 
@JohannesSchaublitb see what I mean?
 
I don't know what you're referring to, really.
The autocompletion event handler stops focus loss.
 
@JohannesSchaublitb alright, let me explain it in code - but with a totally different approach
@CatPlusPlus no, it doesn't.. not in chrome at least
 
I have the chat on Chrome, and yes, it does.
 
10:24 PM
but in chromium it does
 
Not that referring to nicks is very useful.
 
perhaps not in chrome...
 
@CatPlusPlus shit.. want me to record my screen for ya?
 
You should rather refer to messages.
 
not sure why google breaks it
 
10:24 PM
@refp Like this.
 
I'm an IRC power user + terminal geek, I'll NOT use my mouse
 
@refp the problem is
you need to put "@" and then type and then press tab.
 
sbi
@refp So why are you even here? Just to annoy us?
 
without the "@" it does not know that you want to complete a nick
and then it doesn't prevent the focus change
 
@JohannesSchaublitb exactly, and the most annoying thing is that I forget the @, then i press <tab> (which put focus on the "send"-button) for som reason my brain thinks I should hit backspace, and I go back to before I was in this chatroom and lose valuable time
@sbi
 
Xeo
10:27 PM
@x -> tab -> focus on (send) :(
 
..
 
@sbi I came in here to see what the fuzz was all about
 
Xeo
@refp Solution: Open the SO chat from a link in a new tab - no history for that tab!
 
sbi
@refp It's about using the mouse to refer to messages. Real threading. Now you know. Wanna go now?
 
10:28 PM
or use netscape navigator
 
@Xeo the real solution is to write a SO chat to IRC proxy
 
@refp i too prefer IRC
but for some weird reasons they don'T want to make this all IRC
 
@sbi wanna go, where? first of all I don't own a mouse, second.. I rarely use the touchpad
 
@refp some folks in #stackoverflow say that they will not use this chat and instead stay in #stackoverflow
 
@JohannesSchaublitb pick a language and I'll get crackin'
 
10:29 PM
lol
 
sbi
@refp Java!
 
@sbi good thing I didn't ask you
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb You are boring.
 
lol @sbi is grumpy again
 
sbi
10:30 PM
@refp You don't need to ask me. I'm The Grumpy Old Man. I'll answer when I feel like.
 
I haven't written java in years and years, I sign up for SO a few days ago and think that I can answer questions regarding java. Yes, it went quite well, but I speed read through their documentation like a maniac each time
 
sbi
@refp Whare? Well, back to IRC, I thought.
 
@sbi happy now?
if I could just see the message id without pressing that stupid message I'd be happy already
 
sbi
@refp Happy? What didn't you get about me being grumpy?
 
@sbi I was being sarcastic.
 
sbi
10:31 PM
@refp You know, there's a userscript for that.
 
@refp you can make a feature request on meta.stackoverflow.com
i will upvote it xD
 
sbi
@refp Me, of course, I was absolutely serious.
 
not using the mouse to do everything might be a good thing
 
we need this as an IRCd, can't you guys just propose SO to integrate one?
 
Xeo
Why don't you?
 
10:34 PM
because I'm still considered to be this new kid on the block
 
sbi
@refp Well, here's a well-known secret: If you are after rep on SO, refresh the newest question page until you see one less than 2mins old which you can answer right away. Post a minimal answer that's not wrong, and improve it to stellar quality within the 5mins editing window. Cheating? Why? This site is about rep, isn't it?
 
Xeo
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Q: Is 0 a decimal literal or an octal literal?

ybungalobillZero is always zero, so it doesn't matter. But in a recent discussion with my friend he said that octal literals are almost unused today. Then it dawned upon me that actually almost all integer literals in my code are octal, namely 0. Is 0 an octal literal according to the C++ grammar? I'm just c...

Wow.
 
sbi
@Xeo That's a dupe, I'm sure.
Oops. It's old. So it is what new ones would be dupes of.
 
though.. is the highest rated answer really correct?
IS IT!?
 
10:37 PM
The fact that nobody downvoted after all this time probably does mean it's correct...
 
It is correct.
 
Nhaa, if it's something I've learnt during my short stay here at SO it is that people tend to vote up answers with a lot of vote ups
(btw, I waz lajk trollin' kthx regarding the "is it correct"-question)
 
@Mysticial the answer given by "littleadv" has no downvotes either, still it is bloody wrong
 
Xeo
@Johannes, what is MyClass mc; called then?
 
@Xeo his answer doesn'T talk about MyClass mc;
 
Xeo
10:39 PM
other than "creating an object"
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Interesting, mind pointing out where the error is?
 
Xeo
I meant in response to your edit of the tag wiki
 
@Xeo i don't know what else you want to hear
it is a line of text
a line with a trailing semicolon
etc
it is a line consisting of two words
@Xeo many things apply to that line of text
 
Xeo
-.-
 
10:42 PM
but i would prolly call it a declaration to be safe
 
Damn... I wish that loop-question was asked 4 hours later than it was...
 
(if i knew that "MyClass" is a non-function type i could also say "it is a definition")
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Why? :P
 
@Xeo it also instantiates the class "MyClass"
but this is only informal speak
 
@Xeo I was already capped when I answered it... Now I've got 8 upvotes on it...
 
10:43 PM
the spec doesn't use it that way
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Ahh
 
however note that my edit doesn't say that it is not used that way in C++
it just says that in most OOP languages it is used that way. and that in c++ it has another/a second meaning.
we cannot know whether it is used in all OOP languages
 
That loop question is already #1 on the 24-hour list...
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Well, ask me. I got 22 rep out of this answer.
 
@Xeo, ahahahaha...
 
Xeo
10:45 PM
I answered when I was 12 rep away from cap
And got another vote today
 
> Any integer value starting with '0' is an octal value. I.e.: 01 is octal 1, 010 is octal 10, which is decimal 8, and 0 is octal 0 (which is decimal, and any other, 0).
 
There were 2 days where I answered nothing and rep-capped from just residuals from the previous day.
 
please explain. what is wrong about this!?
 
Xeo
@JohannesSchaublitb Maybe "integer value"? Should be "integer literal"
@Mysticial Ah no, sorry, 20 rep. I got a downvote on it for whatever reason.
 
I need to get some of them golden stars, add some bling bling to da nigga'
and I'm sure someone is going to remark the use of the N word, and then I'll get banned
 
10:49 PM
@refp I wasn't going to remark the use of the N word until you mentioned it.
 
but I can joke it off by saying "it's because I'm black, right?"
 
Either way I don't really care. There didn't seem to be any racist intent behind it.
 
@EtiennedeMartel glad to hear.
 
as the wise wu-tang clan said, "Shame on a n`****` who try to run game on a n`****`"
 
what about 0x10
 
10:51 PM
what about it?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb yes, it is what you are thinking.. it's octal
 
Xeo
I knew you had something up your sleeve
 
and the x is just a plus sign slightly flipped over
 
wait
 
10:53 PM
This shit is bananas.
 
0XD <- smilie, wiho!
 
@Pubby Still interested in a fight?
 
to be honest I didn't know that the standard guaranteed 0X to be a valid prefix for hexadecimals
what the.. "You can perform this action again 1 seconds", what did I even do? is it something special happening when writing what the flux
 
@KerrekSB Sure
 
hold your horses.. is that it?
hold your horses.. what the flux
I don't get this 2011 web thingie..
 
10:55 PM
@Pubby Same address still I think. It'll be up in a minute.
 
@KerrekSB Hmm, lost it again. Give me another handshake?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb I will start writing all my hexadecimals as 0X (capital X, just because I can), take THAT!
 
@refp It's an anti-flooding measure. You posted two messages too quickly.
 
user457812
This airport is the most boring thing ever.
 
I'm too fast for the Internet, I knew it.
 
10:57 PM
Actually, I can probably retrieve it
 
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user457812
Kerrek, breaker of tables and mobile browsers
 
33247394688321730341161361338647657166318367805522906437672281814157680942046890266986944898118641183865368608035998389664205698536677502082798876186804231359336746164974464625444746616855394273063785256308376840944051796980337898178098057263647359547316869828100212224411232465608243865305905867787492738050
 
what's up with the numbers?
 
nuclear missile launch codes
 
10:58 PM
ah, nevermind..
 
user457812
They're hacking the quadratic equation and going to break the matrix
 
3548314617212364982043430968751417071229468024835398894130387345469744346955742295299539066926418870233379807892222124661796524507324365961438317192263081201036250196013567437523811506994849485291008723315620194308445659986778141096798843054
 
Xeo
@refp XOR encoded jokes about @DeadMG's momma.
 
@refp This
 
Secret Sex Change?
 
10:58 PM
Port 25565
@EtiennedeMartel It is whatever you want it to be :-)
 
brb 1 second
 
pff.. anything else but OTPs is insecure
 
@Xeo Nobody has ever XORed any statements about DeadMG's momma. In fact, she's so fat, XORing anything with her gives 1.
6
 
@KerrekSB Ok, I'm ready
 
@Pubby Bring it on
 
11:01 PM
lol
 
The Zoq-Fot-Pik is terrible, by the way
 
my mind is blown.. 0X? REALLY?
can't get that out of my head, and I cannot figure out why that was implemented either
 
Hello. I'm learning c++ and i want to ask a few questions. Is this right room for this?
 
or well, "implemented" is wrong word to use but still
 
@Eray Depends on the nature of the questions.
 
11:02 PM
@Eray maybe, maybe not (##c++ @ freenode, or ##c++-basic is a lot better)
 
@Eray If they're quick, go ahead. Otherwise, you might as well just post them on SO.
 
One thing I don't get is why people post the correct answer to question as a comment instead as a regular post, why is it so?
 
@refp I do it when I feel that it's too "small" to be an actual answer.
 
##c++ @ freenode
 
Generally it means the question sucks.
 
11:04 PM
@refp I do it too if I can answer it in 3 words...
 
Xeo
@Eray I want to ask a question first: Are you learning C++ with a good book?
 
I want to store strings (like "Eray Alakese") into a variable. I'm declaring variable like this : char name [200] but it's not storing after space. I'm it's storing just Eray . Not Eray Alakese .
@Xeo, i'm learning C++ from a really bad professor.
 
Xeo
@refp Maybe because they are not sure it's the correct answer?
@Eray Then get a good book asap.
Learning C++ without one is a trip down to hell and back. And down again.
 
@Xeo , i'll . I'm PHP developer and i couldn't find any time for c++ :/
 
Xeo
@Eray std::string (#include <string> beforehand)
 
11:07 PM
@Xeo, i couldn't understand it :)
 
Xeo
std::string name("Eray Alakese");
 
@Xeo , this is my source code : pastebin.com/SAPWiWFD
 
Avoid using char arrays until you know what you're doing.
 
Xeo
@Eray I won't look at your source, I'm not a reviewer. You asked how to create a string variable, I told you. If you have more involved questions, please ask them on SO proper.
 
And do not use void main. It's int main.
 
11:11 PM
@Xeo , thank you anyway . I'm not asking this on SO , because i asked a question just a few minutes ago :)
 
Still, your code is pure C. Do you want to learn C or C++? They are not the same.
 
Do 'scripts' qualify as code?
Many people separate scripting languages and programming languages.
So I'm wondering if "scripts" are considered codes or not.
 
@EtiennedeMartel , i know it's C but our professor crowding about it's c++ . I can't understood.
 
Xeo
0
Q: "memory corruption" when following physics tutorial: how to fix?

SullivanI am just starting with Bullet and I have already run into difficulties with the first tutorial: http://bulletphysics.org/mediawiki-1.5.8/index.php/Hello_World#Tutorial:_Hello_World_Application My code compiles fine but it crashes when it reaches the line: dynamicsWorld = new btDiscreteDynamics...

The linked tutorial sucks from the second code box on.
 
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Oh great... loop question hits 10...
I hate this repcap...
 
11:24 PM
@Pubby: Congrats!
 
Wow, that was a close game
 
Very! You have excellent aim with the Mauler
 
@KerrekSB Thanks for playing. It was fun! (which one is the mauler?)
 
I'm hopeless with that one. And I really hadn't thought you'd get anything out of those Stingers, but they weren't entirely worthless either
 
@Mysticial yeah, who doesn't..
 
11:25 PM
@Pubby The Druuge
The man-burning cannon
 
Oh that one. I got some lucky shots off with it
 
Sometimes it feels as if people don't take me seriously serious just because I happen to be a new user with low rep count
 
and roasted half my crew!
 
I had really hoped to get more mileage out of the Ur-Quan in the end, but it spawned right next to you...
@Pubby "Furnace duty". It's part of the job description.
 
Yeah, that spawning was silly
 
11:26 PM
and that annoys the shit out of me.. especially when I spend time answering a question, and some 15k+ user replies with a single line just linking to a documentation, and he get all the upvotes and I be like.. damn it.
and my post contains that, plus a lot more explaining shiznit and bizquitz
 
You're great with syreen. Getting in touch with your feminine side?
 
@refp Don't sweat it. Keep posting good answers, and your rep will shoot up in no time.
@Pubby I had a secretsexchange
 
hehehe
 
Though I was honestly surprised I managed to take on that Kohr-Ah with it. I think the massive lag helped, because I could think my way around those blades during the freeze
 
@KerrekSB this cap limit is killing me though
 
11:28 PM
@refp You mean you already have 200 per day?
@refp Or you mean the crew cap in the Penetrator in UQM?
 
@KerrekSB yeah, and of course I try to earn more than that.. but I guess I should be some what satisfied with what I earn per day.
@KerrekSB nha, I'm talking about the 200 vote up cap per day
 
@refp With 200/d you'll be up in the five-digits before you know it
 
it's the 6 digit mark I wanna hit though
of course ;)
 
@refp Who doesn't ;-)
Man, now I really wish there were an SC1 remake, too.
 
Never played SC1, is it as good as the second?
 
11:31 PM
mmmh
different ages, different games
they're not very comparable
 
@Pubby It's basically only the super-melee, but with a collection of themed battles. And there's a tactical element, since you have star bases.
I mean, by any modern standard it would appear very dated, but especially after playing SC2 it adds a nice sense of atmosphere.
@DeadMG I think they were released with only two or three years in between.
 
Starcraft 2 and Starcraft 1?
 
Hmm. One of my first C++ projects was a super-melee game, never got anywhere with it though
 
@DeadMG And the melee is very similar
 
not really
 
11:34 PM
@DeadMG No, Star Control :-)
 
lol
certainly never played that
my mistake- common acroynms
 
@DeadMG Shame!
@Pubby Have you got all the remix packs?
 
11:48 PM
hmm, it should be possible to get an average of 300 rep per day, then it will take me 1 year to reach 100 000.. shiznit
s,possible,easily possible,
 
meh
 
Now the question is can you sustain it?
 
once you get to 30k+ it starts to lose all meaning
 
nhaa, it's all about the magic 6 digit number
 
When I started, I spent way more time than I wanted just to repcap everyday...
 
11:49 PM
Kerrek, I'm surprised you're not a room owner
 
I can't seem to break 10000.
 
@RichardPennington you are only like a day away, do it tomorrow
I guess it's easier to hit rep-cap later on aswell, with all the old answers still getting vote-ups (maybe)
 
I guess I don't know the tricks. I just answered questions.
 
either you spam loads of short answers hoping for vote ups, or you spend time on each answer - I try to do the latter.. sometimes it gets to a state where I'm spending way too much time writing/explaining though
 
I know. Or trying test cases. I try not to let it become an addiction. :-)
 

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