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10:33 PM
@CarlAnderson I think caring about code quality is so dumb
I've grown up
don't care about that anymore
just 🚢 it
 
Bug free and within the budget is more important than coding standards
 
^
 
If you want better standards, give your devs more time
 
if you like making no money then you should follow best practices and give in to devs who like clean code
 
Ha that too
We're trying to move more towards value based billing, where we charge a flat rate for partially built or previously solved problems
 
10:38 PM
growing up is realizing all my clean code heros from when I was 18 have never created any economic value
 
XD
 
just sold tutorials and books about unit tests
 
unit tests are so useless
 
yes
 
UI tests for JRs is great though
 
10:38 PM
to a degree they're great but if you have 100% test coverage then you're just bored
 
lol yeah
it really needs to fit the assets and budgets involved
there's no magic pattern that works for everything
 
yep yep
I feel so stupid for judging people who used to say that to me back in the day
 
everyone judged me for saying it, wasn't working professionally or worked in a giant corp with money to waste
 
how you doing dave?
been a while
:)
 
Not great, had an MS scare, diagnosed with POTS but finally starting to see improvement
you can scroll up to read the details
 
10:41 PM
@DaveS exactly. that's such a big corp thing to say.
 
but otherwise good, family is good, work down with the economy but still going
 
oh no. so sorry to hear :(
hope you're recovering?
 
It's okay, I'm through the worst of it now
having an answer is letting me manage it
 
that's good to hear!!
@DaveS yeah it's weird times
 
yeah, just glad I'm done hearing people tell me "maybe it's anxiety"
 
10:42 PM
:(
navigating these things is super hard
 
yup, US healthcare system is known for being great too....
 
the human body is so complex and doctors don't really have the time to figure out what's wrong with you
 
lol yeah
 
they just give you the first thing that sticks
@DaveS oh yeah and that too
 
thankfully I've got a pretty decent plan, hit my deductible, things are about to get a lot cheaper, time to run all the tests
 
10:44 PM
weird enough, a work colleague of mine moved to the UK (mostly because health care etc)
from arizona
and now is moving back again
 
lol
 
turns out the UK actually has worse health care unfortunately, now with brexit and all
the higher rents and less salary probably didn't help either
 
yeah I've heard it's getting pretty bad over there
 
yeah
I still like london
but it's not great if you have a family
he was renting a place for like 2k (which for europeans is insane)
 
Yeah my mortgage is like $950/mo for a 3 bedroom house
it's worse now though
 
10:55 PM
damn
that's amazing
my house is like a 1.8k mortgage
but it has 2 apartments in it
and I'm still not living in it :(
been renovating for the past 6 months
 
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