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@pppery "The code executed without any errors, but nothing physically happened"
(your quote was their description of a previous iteration of the code)
Oops
Question still looks unclear and unanswerable, because the problem is likely not the code at all but some relationship between MCPI and Minecraft
00:52
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Q: Why do we still have the [python-2.x] tags?

AlphaA999Why do we still have the python-2.x tags? Python 2 has been deprecated since 2020 and so no one would actually use it anymore. I am new here, so forgive me if I am wrong, but wouldn't this be a good reason to burninate this tag?

 
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03:15
@Makyen yeh, exactly; and yet the audit brought in a tag which was not among those tags, but which I had previously manually filtered on
@Machavity I didn't get retry/fail, but when I edited a typo, it put a second copy instead of updating the original I edited
03:30
@Makyen I tend to agree. It doesn't look like spam to me either; I was just surprised to see something so old come through that notification mechanism.
@tripleee Hmmmm.... interesting. I didn't think it was written to look at your history. I thought it only looked at the current filters.
I believe it looks at your saved filters. If I go to close queue, set my filter to say [pandas] then go to the link with URL Params. My preferences are not changed. If I return to close queue without url params, my filter is still set to [pandas] even though I just went through and did some [shop] [shopping] tasks.
@HenryEcker Yeah, I can understand that. MS creates those notifications for the first non-deleted/cleared FP/NAA feedback on a autoflagged post regardless of age. It might be reasonable to have the logic be a bit more involved. For example, if the post is deleted, or has been deleted since the flagging, then there isn't any use notifying the auto-flaggers, given that there isn't anything they can do about their flag at that point. It might be good to get more reviewers, but the flaggers can't do anything about their flags once the post has been deleted.
04:00
^ maybe spam seed
@sideshowbarker Isn't posting blatant junk r/a
@SurajRao can an RO delete this? OP translated
04:35
@SurajRao I have to admit I’m unfamiliar with what the guidelines say on this. (If there are such guidelines…)
@SurajRao What always makes me reluctant to flag such stuff as R/A is that the text next to the R/A radio button says, “A reasonable person would find this content inappropriate for respectful discourse.” — which stuff like that one doesn’t seem to fit well with. But that said, I guess in general it’s a known issue that the text of a lot of the stuff in SO’s flagging and close-vote UI is not very good and does not match particularly well with how we actually use the options.
@SurajRao → 1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
05:16
What to do if someone do plagiarism?
like this I indicated.
@SunderamDubey You could edit the commenter user name in if you wish.. Or flag for mod
Yes, I was also thinking to edit the name, but not to flag for mods.
05:32
@sideshowbarker It's fairly well established that gibberish is R/A-flag worthy. That said, "gibberish" is typically posts that contain only things like "asdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasd" or "agpyeghrujdsg" it gets a bit more gray when the text has meaning that is unrelated to the question and not promotional.
FWIW I probably would've mod flagged (or del-pls'ed) as well in that particular case.
06:01
^ lots of views, but very basic, and probably not hard to google on other sites
Yes, suraj Rao as its only redirect to other question, I think.
Thanks
The answer seems not good to me.
Technically not NAA.. Very low bar
The question maybe typo /no repro because of self answer.
Thanks for telling suraj.
07:24
@SunderamDubey What's unfocused about "redirect all pages to one particular page during specific hours?" the answer (which has some issues, admittedly) suggests that it's pretty straightforward
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@RyanM At least, the answerer should mention the name of packages.
08:38
@HenryEcker Seems like you have a follower. :)
08:56
@AdrianMole the "movers and packers" post you flagged as NAA is definitely spam
@tripleee Oops - That was just a mis-click. Fixed.
thanks
 
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10:26
...ah they change min and max. ...still one of the worst answers on each respective page. Should I comment with my downvotes?
10:39
Should you comment your upvotes?
@Braiam Yes. Such comments should say "thanks" and/or "+1" to bolster the spirit of the post author. Also, they should contain an acceptable amount of emoji.
That should make them easier to find and flag.
@mickmackusa best to handle that with a custom mod flag
11:25
@mickmackusa the question doesn't help either, it's a plain typo kind of question
12:38
@SunderamDubey Do you know how to use tags in chat? It's mentioned in the FAQ.
@SunderamDubey Sorry, should've read up a little more. Didn't mean to sound facetious. flag-pls is done in a similar way to cv-pls
12:57
Sorry, I was in hurry, remember from next time.
13:19
@AdrianMole What?
There was an SD report shortly after your comment about gibberish ... almost an exact quote of the example you gave. :)
Ahhh gotcha.
13:51
> Thank you all guys, you saved my day! The question can be closed
14:02
If it can be closed then give us a link, we will close it :)
14:24
Down to 12 questions in the tag and 0 in the tag. I also just added a few questions to the close vote queue - they should be hitting the queue shortly.
15:55
@EJoshuaS-StandwithUkraine looks like both tags are clear now
 
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21:06
What is our strategy for answers that have NEVER provided the correct solution to the asked question and have an insurmountable amount of upvotes and the trending sort algorithm isn't helping? stackoverflow.com/a/6507615/2943403 (I've posted an answer on this page)
@SotiriosDelimanolis Per our rules, you are involved in this question. Also, did you mean to request something else, like deletion (based on your reason message)? If so, you could delete your answer...errr, well, I suppose it's accepted. You know what, I'm just going to delete it.
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null (user involved, likely wrong request, mod decided to delete it)
Hopefully that result is satisfactory.
@RyanM you can edit other users' comments right? As a mod
Or am I still just imagining that
@mickmackusa Flag them with a mod flag, explain in detail that this answer is blatantly wrong, and hope that they are in a helpful mood. Depending on the severity of the wrongness and said mood they may decline the flag or end up deleting the answer
If it's a high enough score they may err on the side of declining it since there is evidence of many users finding the answer helpful
But before you mod flag, is the answer useful in some way even if it is not necessarily correct/perfect?
@TylerH okay, I'm cantankerous enough to give it a crack.
@TylerH yep, as it happens, I recently wrote some information on that.
because a useful answer should be kept even if it is not necessarily correct (note, some mods think such a condition is not possible to meet, FWIW)
@RyanM OK, thanks :-)
gonna flag a dinky little thing
21:18
@TylerH hahaha...added a space, an "s", and a colon, and made the link into the name of the target :-)
Going above and beyond the call of duty :-)
@mickmackusa I suspect that you will find "why" it got the upvotes from the linked list.
Fix that, and then you will have a chance to reverse course.
That'll have to wait until later. There are many answers on the page that have never worked as desired and I must comment-flame them all first.
an answer doesn't have to be the correct answer to the question asked, to be the correct answer to many people who find the question via google
@RyanM o wut, yeah that was a misclick, meant for a delete request
21:33
@KevinB Which is extremely counterintuitive, since if I ask a question I expect all answers to be relevant to the question I asked.
So, I would expect questions that other people ask to be the same.
fortunately, the site isn't about helping the OP
@KevinB I find that comment repulsive.
The principle of lest surprise doesn't agree with you.
If I'm directed to a question via search/duplicate closure, it's because its answers are meant to solve the issue I asked/searched for.
I would be very surprised if the site directed me towards unrelated information.
and for at least 60 people, that answer was the answer they were searching for
Also, what do you mean that useful?
21:35
wut
If we don't need answers to provide the desired result, then we have utter chaos. Anyone can post any random "working" script on any page anywhere in the Stack Exchange Network.
I agree, however, what can you do about it past casing your own downvote?
should you have some authority over everyone else to enforce your opinion that this answer is incorrect/wrong?
@KevinB given that that's a rule of the site, arguably the answer to this question is yes
i would support such a proposal
@KevinB and the answer to this one is mod flag (as mentioned above) and let the e-police sort it out
21:38
That method has been proven to not be reliable and very likely to backfire.
@KevinB it's already a rule, it doesn't need proposing. We have the NAA flag that says "this does not attempt to answer the question that was asked". Whoever wrote that copy surely assumed the flag would be used on answers that don't answer the question that was asked.
Heck, we already had a discussion about this: popularity will steamroll actual experts.
It is not a sure thing by any means, true, but it's the best method we have short of running for moderator ourselves so we can delete all the bad answers we've ever found and bookmarked in folders titled "crap to delete if I ever become a mod", which I'm certainly not projecting and which certainly we all, every one of us, do...
Or, defer those decisions to experts and a mod simply be their borrowed knife.
@Braiam handling a mod flag to delete a positively-scored answer already implies/requires some human determination on the merits
21:48
@TylerH Exactly, but I want it to be the only consideration. Not the moderator to insert itself into the decision or their opinion on the matter.
Or let popularity do the same.
@mickmackusa I deleted a bunch of these answers as they were off-topic IMHO. An answer should at least try to answer the question. Even if they were helpful to someone, they weren't suitable here. We can't have a mess like that. They were so wrong that I even wondered if it was a merge gone wrong, but I can't find any evidence of that.
@Dharman You may also check that linked list as I suggested above ;)
@Dharman thanks for that excellent work. I didn't flag stackoverflow.com/a/26004069/2943403 because it isn't epically bad, but it is 100% wrong. What should be done there?
@Braiam Can you be more specific please?
21:54
@mickmackusa I don't know about this one.
Ha. ^^ can you just quickly review 45 pages of content, Dharman?
@mickmackusa It was almost correct before you edited it. 3v4l.org/mEkAv
To be honest, I don't know why you edited it this way
I'd say, roll back the edit and keep it as it is very close to being correct and it does show an interesting way... albeit stupid
I mean, I tend to avoid looking at PHP too closely, lets it stare back
Yeah, which of these 45 question would you like me to look at?
What's wrong with them?
@Dharman Err, what? I thought it was a typo. Calling array_reverse() twice is no more correct than calling it once. I can roll it back, but no version of the answer has ever been correct.
21:57
Some titles doesn't look like the question is asking.
@mickmackusa calling it twice is basically like calling array_values
Yes, which is 100% incorrect for the page.
50% incorrect
:)
Definitely doesn't serve up the clear, desired result.
ehh, downvote it
22:04
I've downvoted. Thanks for editing. You beat me to it. I think it is unjust that users can earn unicorn points and badge points for providing provably incorrect answers.
Blame upvoters not me
Personally I don't care about that. I think how bad is the future reader treated, wasting their time with irrelevant information.
Those, are far more important to me, since I'm one of those :)
Just don't .... delete a post while I'm typing a comment ... even if you are a mod ...
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Yes, unnecessary page bloat hurts the Researcher eXperience as well.
With trending sort, it's already at the very bottom
22:06
sorry for interupting
I blur into the background again
@Braiam I checked some of them and I think many of these questions should just be deleted. Feel free to submit del-pls here
@Dharman Again, I don't try to look to PHP, as I'm afraid it stares back :)
I wouldn't know which ones are "good" signposts.

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