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2:06 AM
Late night debug :( .....
@Dharman It's like they say: "Life is full of contradictions".
 
 
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5:13 AM
Do these undeletions 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (there's more) warrant a mod flag?
 
5:34 AM
^^ One of the 3 voters has an answer in the questions
also minor nitpick: 1 and 4 are the same question
 
Must have missed one :/ 9 10 11 12 13 14
 
yeah ... better mod flag then
 
5:50 AM
Yeah. I hope they don't decline this one
 
 
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7:15 AM
I'm sorry I couldn't find a chat group where users can get their general queries met. Can someone direct me to one such group, please?
 
7:29 AM
@ShayanShafiq did you try meta?
 
 
7:55 AM
@rene Yes. Couldn't find there.
 
@ShayanShafiq I pointed you to a chatroom. Did you post your "general query" there? It might not be that active but people might notice. Otherwise try the The Ministry of Silly Hats. There are "no rules" there either.
 
8:20 AM
@rene Oh, thank you so much for your "help"! :D
 
9:09 AM
 
10:00 AM
what is the rule of send feedback to Natty as ne ?
 
10:30 AM
I answered a question about floating point overflow and said something like "You don't have to be afraid to overflow floats"
Got one comment on that in the style of "It's bad manners to insinuate that OP is afraid"
Did he have a point or was he overreacting?
It was only that sentence. The rest of the answer was purely based on facts and stuff.
 
Personally I can get the humoristic tone. I guess some people don't...
 
@Tomerikoo It was not meant to be humoristic really, but not to be condescending either. But I mean, is there really any big difference between "float overflows are well defined and you don't need to make sure they don't happen" and "you don't have to be afraid of overflowing floats, because it's safe"?
 
@klutt well. You could try You don't have to worry to overflow floats but then I'll come in with a comment that I'm capable to decide on my own when I worry or not. So, I would flag the comment as no longer needed.
 
Yeah I know it wasn't exactly a joke, I meant that I can relate to the light tone of using the afraid in this context. I would say that you can rephrase if there is at least one person that finds this troubling. Simply using the word worry instead of afraid might make it lighter
 
@rene Haha, I was actually considering changing to "worry", but isn't that closer to "afraid" that being purely neutral?
 
10:43 AM
@klutt the wording is fine if you assume good intent. And even if you don't assume good intent afraid isn't an insult.
 
Yeah, would be a difference if I used the word "coward"
 
Change to overflowing floats shouldn't scare you, unless they jump from under your bed in the middle of the night
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@klutt I would totally ask that on ELU.se/ELL.se, the results will be hilarious.
 
@rene You're also Swedish I assume?
 
Am I? At best I'm a Swedish chef.
 
10:48 AM
Sorry, I missed most of the discussion. What are these float overflows and why should I be afraid of them? Please stop scaring me! ;)
 
@klutt if those .SE domains confuse you, I meant this
 
Ah, because elu.se did exist :D
 
Oh, yeah. I didn't realize that. I totally support the handover of the tld .se to Stack Exchange. It is time the Swedes give up their sovereignty ...
 
@JeanneDark Just don't look under your bed or open your closet or you'll get jumped by some angry bits
 
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12:52 PM
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2:30 PM
Is this question on-topic?
 
@JeanneDark Without looking at it I will say no.
I bet it has to do with some policy.
 
It does but it's rather an edge case maybe.
 
Ok, now I've read it, and I have to say: classic app reviews
 
Thanks
 
@JeanneDark I think it can be on-topic if they ask for a different thing. For example: How do I get the location if I can't use ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION due to policy. But I also expect they are not gone over all the docs as I expect the Google response to refer to developer.android.com/reference/android/…
 
2:43 PM
@rene Thank you!
 
I bet it's some kind of implicit permission due using fine instead of coarse
 
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@rene I need screenshots or printouts of my posts which got deleted. Please can you help me? According to your comment on Meta Electrical Engineering Stack Exchange. You said you are always happy to help. electronics.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7362/…
 
@Braiam yeah, something like that is my reasoning as well. Not going to dig trough all the docs to find where that is stated
 
user12311164
@rene I have already taken a printout of your comment on Meta EE.SE
 
@ShashankVM You can create screenshots yourself. You have access to your own deleted posts. Go to your meta profile, there is a link that will bring you to a list with your deleted posts.
@ShashankVM please be nice. Insults have no place here.
@ShashankVM visit this link for your deleted questions, click each link found there and then follow the instructions here to get the screenshots
 
3:08 PM
 
user12311164
@rene Did I insult anyone? If I did, I apologise. If I did not insult anyone, why did you say I insulted someone?
 
@ShashankVM Yes, I found your message insulting and I acted based on what is mentioned in the code of conduct: No name calling. But in general I don't need rude or otherwise unacceptable slang in the transcript, so those message had to go anyway.
 
mck
3:30 PM
Has Gordon Linoff ever closed questions as duplicates 😂
 
@mck No, I think that was one the critiques once he reached 1M rep.
 
@mck SQL tag has this problem in general. Nobody is moderating it and there are plenty of duplicates.
 
mck
He basically just copied and pasted that row_number = 1 query and changed the column names, and gave like a zillion answers based on that
@Dharman No wonder he gave so many answers every day
 
Gordon Linoff holds the second position of reputations in SO
 
user12311164
3:39 PM
@rene Thanks, do you have anything else to say to me? If you do, please let me know where we can communicate.
 
@ShashankVM No, I've said what I needed to say.
 
mck
@user15070659 There used to be someone (GMB) who can challenge him for the monthly rep league, but that person has stopped answering since 2021.
And that person, of course, answers SQL questions
 
3:52 PM
 
@Dharman I think so, yes.
 
@JeanneDark that is spam or rude/abusive since it is asking to hire someone
 
I might be wrong but I don't see how that is spam...
It's simply off-topic and should be closed (and deleted later)
 
I'd call it spam, for the reason given by Don'tKnowMuch...
 
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter They are not asking for someone to hire. They are asking what skills they need to look for
 
@Dharman hm, a fine line here
 
4:47 PM
@Dharman Fair point. So, maybe not spam.
 
OK, perhaps you are right @Dharman. Still, it needs to be gone post haste
 
It hast posted.
 
5:13 PM
No oneboxing please
 
@OrAssayag please see socvr.org/… if you need guidance how to format your requests.
Refer to socvr.org/faq#GEfM-not-noisy for info on why we disallow one-boxes.
 
thanks :)
 
yw
 
6:21 PM
Yay, got a 10-answer :D
 
Ron
6:37 PM
My first dupe hammer.
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@Ron congrats!
 
Ron
Many thanks.
 
@ron One of many to come I hope? ;)
 
Ron
If time allows, yes.
 
I really REALLY hate that you cannot skip the dup hammer once you got that power
I'm almost considering creating a second user just for that purpose
 
6:47 PM
I'm only ever annoyed I can't hammer more. I'd hammer all over this land.
 
@khelwood This would be a nice tag to have a hammer in, is not?
 
Hmmmm ... is not reading the Quickstart guide for a product one intends to use a typo or cannot reproduce? :)
 
Indeed. I'll add it to my list after every tag for something I've heard of.
 
@klutt Well, if you suspect a duplicate but don't want to force closure with your hammer, then you can raise a [cv-pls] in here.
... or edit out the tag, CV, then edit tag back in.
 
7:04 PM
@AdrianMole Yeah, but I at least want one vote :)
I assume you were joking about the last part?
 
Joking? I'm more of a Batman than a Joker (Steve Miller Band songs notwithstanding).
 
Lol
Well, I believe such things would attract attention of the bad kind
 
7:56 PM
@ron hey. nice to cya :-)
 
@AdrianMole If someone only suspects that it's a duplicate, that doesn't sound like a cv-pls is appropriate. Posting a cv-pls for a duplicate is really saying "this is a duplicate; please vote to close it as such". That's quite a bit stronger than "I think this might be a duplicate, but I'm unsure. What do other people think?"
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@Makyen Fair comment. Perhaps I should have advised to post that question (in here), instead.
So, should I have flagged that as R/A? (Looks like somebody did.) Seems odd that someone should sign up to SO just to post that!
Probably, without knowledge of, or access to, SOCVR, I would have raised a red flag. Maybe I'm getting soft.
 
8:13 PM
It's not rude but it is definitely abusive. It's the same as someone posting poop all the time. Actually it might be the same person
 
20K privs and this room can change the way one thinks/operates.
 
It wasn't worth my delete vote.
 
... and there's that, of course.
 
@AdrianMole I'm not so sure it was "borderline abusive". Could just as well be someone who were sorry they could not help. Not very intelligent though, but that's another thing.
 
@klutt Yeah - that was my issue. Sometimes "misguided" can be perceived as R/A. Benefit of the doubt, and all that.
It's was also an affront to the name of my late mother's late cat! (Jojo)
 
9:16 PM
@cigien It feels weird to close vote a question with an 11-score answer
 
@klutt While deleting a post with with highly upvoted answers is probably not a good idea, simply closing such a post is fine. There are several reasons why those upvotes could have come in, and ther're only about 3-4 upvotes a year so it's not even a lot of upvotes I think.
 
@cigien True. But yeah, I don't know anything about twillio som I'll skip it :)
 
Sure. And there may be reasons to keep the question open of course; but lots of upvotes is not really one of them.
 
Upvotes are not a reason, but they can be a pretty good sign of a reason
 
Yeah, that's definitely true. I don't think that's the case here though.
 
9:25 PM
Usually when I face an unclear question with upvotes and answers, I ask myself "Is this unclear because it's unclear or because I'm stupid?" ;)
Which actually is a very difficult question to answer sometimes
 
Considering this, it's sounds like you are less stupid then the rest of us :)
 
Being aware that you're stupid does not make you less stupid, just less annoying ;)
Except if you're one of those who constantly state "But at least I'm aware that I'm stupid" :D
 
Ron
@πάνταῥεῖ Nice to see you too.
 
@PetterFriberg Tjenare förresten!
Sorry, just had to say hello to a fellow swede
 
:), ciao!
@klutt Your from north, middle or south?
 
Ron
9:30 PM
Petter's gone south. In a good way ;)
 
Depends on who you ask. I'd say middle, but many southerners would say north.
 
Umea and above is north...
 
@Ron I noticed you completely changed into coaching now? Congrats! (2nd book also, respect man). Hope you're all well.
 
Then it's middle :D
 
Ron
@πάνταῥεῖ Thanks. Appreciate it.
 
9:31 PM
@klutt I agree with that when it comes to unclear questions. I don't really think this question is unclear; it's more that it's a bit broad, and probably requires an involved answer.
 
Lots of snow now in Sweden, I'm missing it :(... here there is none and we are not allowed to go to the alps!
 
@cigien Well, I would say the same apply there. Quite often seemingly broad questions have a very simple answer. (I do agree that that question seem to not make the cut though)
 
@Ron not so sure "in a good way.."
 
those complaints always :-P
@petter :)
 
Ron
Was nice seeing you again. Tc and stay safe.
 
9:36 PM
Italy normally is great, it has tons of stuff (sea, mountain, cities) but with this covid I would prefer to be in Arvidsjaur
Every time I see @Ron I remember this chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/111347/conversation/…
 
@PetterFriberg I assume you're from the north?
Southerners usually don't define "north" as Ume and above :D
 
Yeah I was born in Umea (that's why invented that north is from there an above) :D
 
But a REAL umebo would spell it "Ume" ;)
Let the flamewar begin
 
we don't spell it like that we say it like that ;)
 
Haha, fair enough
Born in Mora
 
9:45 PM
I studied some in South (Chalmers) but after military I switched to LUTH to stay in the north :D, then I lost my soul and went to Italy
@klutt Yeah that's middle!
 
Dalarna is basically the landscape where people north of it and living in it see as middle and people south of it think of it as north
But technically Gästrikland belongs to the north, even though it's as south as Dalarna
 
I would almost put it to south (bottom), but well you have my good faith and can be in the middle... :)
 
Well as long as you define middle=Svealand, then it's in the north ;)
 
Actually it's really nice, another place that I missed, I have promised my family that we will make it trip to it...
it's like typical Swedish, a midsummer at Mora must be great!
with the lakes but no mygg!
 
Hahaha, yeah, I must say that when I moved south I did react to what they call "majstång" down here :D
 
9:50 PM
lol
 
A fucking pole in the ground you can put there completely on your own
 
and then start running around it like a frog :D
what can be more fun
 
Well that's mostly for children tbh
But the violin music is nice
And all the drinking later on ;)
 
with kràftor :), anyway need to run, cya later Klutt
 
Take care
Weee, didn't notice I had passed 23k now :D
 
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10:53 PM
@PetterFriberg Muahahah! LMAO. How could I miss that gem XD
 

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