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00:26
@Nick tell that to my +100 bounty for pointing out that someone needed to add the right Maven repository to pull in their dependency
00:42
Just checking ... thought maybe it was "Utah!"
@RyanM One man's easy is another man's impossible?
@Nick My first and only bounty (300 rep) was from... reading documentation on something I knew (and still know) nothing about ^^
@Nick awesome!
My tied-for-third highest-voted answer was looking something up in the Android preview docs and putting it on SO :-p
01:54
WTF? Charcoal is spamming? stackoverflow.com/a/64509205/9473764
new business model
It's not April 1st
New (unregistered) user.
... probably somebody who got bit by Smokey on a previous spam.
@AdrianMole yeah... it was a pretty good effort. Now charcoal will probably end up on the list of blacklisted sites :)
02:10
@Nick I don't think CharcoalHQ has a username, "Charcoal" - just metasmoke
02:23
Is this edit summary rude? (Even if it is true?)
@AdrianMole yes, but how do you flag it?
That was my next question.
Maybe it's simpler just to reject and edit given they left three hanging backticks on the end of the code
Tim Post says to flag it but doesn't say how.
I guess you have to approve the edit, then raise a mod flag on the post? Or perhaps mod-flag one of their other posts?
02:32
I guess just raise a mod-flag on the post in question? The full history would be available to the mods, is not?
As long as the edit is approved, otherwise the comment will disappear with it...
I don't know, just guessing here... :(
As E_net4 might say: "I like guessing."
OK - So long as you have a link to the review, you could mod-flag the post, including that link. Then, even if the edit is rejected, the mods will be able to quickly find the review itself (which will retain the original comment).
02:49
@AdrianMole cool - that's a good way to do it
 
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04:05
Ever been annoyed when you spend 25 minutes typing up an answer only to find the question was closed one minute before you tried to post it?
There was a doomed gomoku question earlier today that if I'd seen it at home rather than at work I'd have answered.
 
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06:30
@rene your chronicle was hilarious :D picturing you trying to get around, your descriptions were just delicious, you managed to portray folks seeing the funny side of things. Hope you enjoyed it.
07:01
Are these 3 questions duplicates of each other? They recived same link-only answers.
07:15
Is there a chatroom where I can ask a question about the logic of closing this question which I have voted to reopen?
Asking is fine
@karel No; in my knowledge, there is no such chatroom where someone can ask why particular question was closed. Meta may help in some cases. About that specific question, the most voted comment explains why it was closed. IMO, it is broad and unclear. If you think it is good question, please go ahead and edit it a bit in shape. You may then place a reopen request here.
The real issue here isn't "is atoi thread-safe" (which is answered in the docs anyways, so not a good question either) but "I have an (unspecified) error in my (undisclosed) code that I'm trying to fix by replacing atoi with something else, but what should I replace it with?"
@AmitJoshi why though? Is the answer not useful?
07:31
@AmitJoshi I'd like to post about this topic in Meta, for a reason which I explained in a comment below the question, but I decided not to post a question in Meta about this question because it received so many downvotes that it's possible that posting about it in Meta would humiliate the author.
You can quote the question instead of linking to it if the only reason you're not asking on meta is the meta effect.
@karel Posting it on meta can also get it outright deleted..
Good point even though the accepted answer is worth keeping.
@bad_coder Ha, glad you liked it. I certainly enjoyed staying there.
@karel While it's better than other posts I've seen deleted by meta, the meta effect seems to me to be a little erratic. I've lost faith that all users vote on what is useful to others, but instead of what is useful to themselves. It only takes a few to remove a post :( Once it's deleted it takes more than luck to undo it, since most users can't undelete it and can't search it either. They have to happen upon the meta post and want to undelete it.
07:46
users who can vote to delete can also vote to undelete
@JohnDvorak That is true. But what is the chance that they will happen upon the post and go look at it? It will take a day or two to get the post deleted, and by then the meta post is way down the meta-home page..
meta effect takes, meta effect gives
I've not seen the giving from meta.
@karel you can ask here why a question is closed, in other words: How (for what reason) did it get in that state. Careful how you ask, specially if you're involved in that Q/A somehow, you don't want it to be interpreted as a re-open request. So don't ask: shouldn't this be re-opened? but I admit this all somewhat subjective so some discussions might work here, while the next fails. We love to be inconsistent, just to confuse everyone.
@Scratte even if you ask?
07:49
@JohnDvorak I think especially if I ask, it will not :D
@JohnDvorak There are multiple problems those start with question itself. Basically, though using HL7, question is not asking about protocol specific things. Question is off-topic as Broad. It talks about integrating commercial product. Answer mostly discuss same and the networking thing. We hardly see HL7 in there. "By using a programming language, create a socket that listen to the packet" How? Any Code. nothing. IMO, answer is not useful as well.
@Scratte That's ... worth providing concrete examples of ;)
@JohnDvorak Nice try.. not biting ;)
@rene At Ask Ubuntu I can post reopen requests at the Raiders of the Lost Downboat chatroom in order to keep reopen requests out of Meta. This also prevents exposing the author of a downvoted question to possible humiliation and reduces the possibility of the question being deleted.
@karel you can do a re-open request here in this room, specially if you're not involved. Might need some context why, as you can see from the discussion already taking place.
08:00
@karel You have full editing privileges. If there's a way you can edit the Question without invalidating any of the Answers, it may be helpful. Or as I've often considered: Rewriting a post, but posting my rewrite off-site with a link in a comment. Then the author can decide if they want to use it. This author seems to still be active.
08:42
I want opinion of community on this question. I tried to close it with Broad which aged away. Question is off-topic. It talks about application which is not commonly used in tag. I guess it is commercial product. There is no concept of "session" in HL7. If application is implementing it in some way; that is private implementation and cannot be known to users on SO. (contd...)
(contd...)Question is not talking about specific programming problem. It is talking about workflow implemented in application. The single answer is also suggesting the same.
09:29
@AmitJoshi why is it off-topic? If they plan on using Mirth they have some way of using the product in an integration way, I assume by some sort of API. To me that reads like an how to question, and the answer seems okay. That it is a commercial product with low traffic doesn't seem a reason. Integrating an workflow can be an programming task which I assume is what most users read in it.
09:39
@rene The question is asking for "session info"; not a part of protocol. OP do not explicitly ask anything specific about protocol. About the workflow: it may be different per application and per hospital that deploy that application. It is neither about programming nor about protocol. (contd...)
(contd...)Very common commercial products can be answered on SO as many users use it. Product in question is hard to answer until OP come up with specific problem and link it to either protocol or programming. Such products may change their implementation per version. As those are not open source, community could not know about it.(contd...)
(contd...)Question is 7 years old; I doubt if anyone can comment how their session management (if any) implemented in current version. By the way, session management is not a part of protocol.
09:57
sure.
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10:08
I got a gold badge on the Android tag \o/
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10:24
Stack is funny this way. With good posts, one doesn't have to keep Answering. Just put them out there and let time do it's magic.. :)
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Still need a few answers if I want the Kotlin badge. 100-200 away from that IIRC, but missing a bunch of answers
@Zoe Or.. just wait.. :)
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waiting won't do anything for the missing answers :')
Right. I missed that. Like my two Answers on meta will never get me a badge :)
I can never remember what the requirements are. Ahh.. 200 Answers.
I wanted to ask something, is there a metric after which a particular post is considered plagiarized from another one? For example, is this answer plagiarized from this one? It does seem to have 3 eerily similar lines of code... but the rest seems to be original...
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10:27
1000 score and 200 answers
@Yatin No. There's not a metric like that. As far as I understand the code needs to include sufficient amount of code that is original. If the lines in Question are mentioned everywhere, including the documentation, then it's not really plagiarized, like int i = 0;, despite someone was indeed the first to write it.
The second and third line of the code you here is depending on the first. So we're only talking about one line of code. To see if there is a problem, you can check the documentation and find out how those methods work. Then evaluate if any of those lines seem original in nature.
yep the while loop is very similar... but is one statement enough to declare the entire answer plagiarized? Even if they did copy it from there
@Scratte ohk
@Yatin That's what I'm trying to get at. If the one line of code is very original, then you could argue so. In most cases I suspect it's not.
For this case, I think I've seen similar code on SEI CERT Oracle Coding Standard for Java. There are a lot of rules & recommendations though and since I think it was similar, I doubt I can just find it by searching.
Looking at this rule STR00-J, it uses the same "trick" by both setting & comparing the result in the while condition. I'd be very reluctant to say that one used code from the other.
And I haven't checked the Oracle java tutorial.. but you're more than welcome to :)
11:09
@Scratte yep you are correct. Thanks for the advice :-)
@Yatin I did also notice that they changed the while condition from != -1 to > 0 :) So, at worst it's an adaptation, not a copy :) I'm also not entirely sure, but I believe that the definition for "plagiarized" here is: identical. I usually spot it by identical comments :)
11:43
Is this and Answer? I mean would "Use async WMI events" be considered answering?
@Scratte I think it is NAA. If we remove the hyperlink, it becomes "Try this: MS Docs. Example of async WMI events". As there is no context for "this" and there is no "example", the answer is not useful. Flagged.
@Scratte It is link-only for sure... So I will flag it as VLQ
Yep someone from the review also agrees
12:03
Is this question asking for tools? I am a bit reluctant to flag because they might be asking for in-built tools in Matlab...
12:15
@Yatin Deletion is not appropriate in this case. It should be red-flagged
@Dharman sorry my bad I forgot that user script adds those tags
^ that question belongs on codereview.stackexchange.com
12:32
I can't find my answer: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/402217/1839439 :D Error 404
@DavidBuck It is already flagged
@Dharman I can't see that. I can only see that my flag was marked helpful, and it's come back.
Community user flags such posts with a special flag type
@Dharman That I didn't know
It's called a dispute flag. Only mods see it. It is raised whenever a post is disputed in LQP, or the decision is Recommend deletion, but the post has a positive score, or if OP undeletes it after Recommend deletion. In this case since the post has a positive score LQP didn't delete it, but raised a flag.
@Dharman Interesting, thanks. I didn't know that.
12:42
@Dharman Good one. I went to check :)
@Dharman I think there is a post on meta.se about this.
Would anything think this is an Answer? I can tell it's not, but I'm biased.
It isn't :)
It helps to read the Question though, which they never do when they decide if it's NAA :)
@Scratte OP has already asked it as a proper question: stackoverflow.com/questions/64513230/…
12:54
Is "CHECK THE NAMESPACE" an answer? stackoverflow.com/a/64513456
Heh!.. Strange that they didn't remove their Answer then.
@DavidBuck No, It just says "I made a typo, check if you have a typo as well"
@DavidBuck It is an answer. I won't flag. Although it needs editing
@DavidBuck I think so. The comment seems to suggest they used the wrong directory. Though I think it may be slightly better in lower case :)
@Dharman error in the namespace means typo?
12:57
Copy-paste errors are typos in my book
Ok, I am not going to flag it, but it is a low-quality answer
That depends on how the error comes about, no? :) If I call my class "MyFavoriteClass" and put it in "MyFavoritePackage", and I import it as "MyFavoriteClass", I may be misunderstanding something. If I import it as "MyFavoritePack.MyFavoriteClass", it's likely a typo.
It is definitely down-vote worthy but it is still an answer :/
Always irritating when answers fall into that 'bad, but not flaggable' camp.
Although it is much improved now...
@DavidBuck I struggled with that a long time. What "helped" me a lot was seeing perfectly fine posts with 206K views getting deleted by the meta effect. Now I'm "meh" on bad Answers. The more the better.. maybe the delete votes with go to worse posts then the perfectly fine ones.
@DavidBuck True. Especially when the answer is absolutely wrong / is actively trying to cause harm :(
13:02
Lazy Saturday, but I am starving so I need to buy some food. I'm going to go see the outside world now.
:O Outside? what is this animal you talk about?
@Dharman Try to not get hit by a satellite.
Is this a Northern Exposure reference?
@Dharman Yes :) I find it absolutely awesome that you knew this :)
It could also have been a "The Truman Show" reference. With the implication that there is no "outside" :)
^ Nothing more annoying than "Thanks for your advice, next time I post, I will remember it" rather than fixing their post.
@Dharman I thought you'd gone out?
13:10
Putting on my pants
Well you aren't doing a very good job then :)
Is this question on-topic? It seems to be attracting VLQ answers :(
@Yatin How do you know? Dharman has revealed earlier to be a collective hive mind of colourful squares.
@Scratte ah that makes sense. Putting pants on each of the colorful squares :)
@Yatin also is this NAA?
Oops.. :)
@Yatin No.. :) And in my opinion not an entirely bad Answer.
More suited as a comment :/
I think that goes with the previous all caps answer too
13:25
Well.. it does address the "Any tips?" part.
@Yatin That is sort of opinion, no? There's a big camp that says comments are not for anything that Answers. They are for clarification questions only. And that comments should only have 7 days of life.
So putting it in a comment would not be very persistent.. in a sense that the information could easily be lost.
Some even go so far as to say that it should be an Answer to enable users to downvote it.. which I think is kind of silly.
@Scratte Oh that is new. Haven't heard that before. Completely disagree. We already have a ton of questions who have simple comments for answers... Deleting those isn't a good idea :(
@Yatin But when you review or evaluate a post, you have to consider that others are of a different opinion, no? And that it's placed in an Answer for a legitimate reason. Seeing as it at least partly answers the Question.
Also, that you can find answers in comments, doesn't meant they shouldn't have been posted in Answers ;)
@Scratte I am not against this idea because I think comments are a good place to have answers in but I am against because we already have such questions... And implementing auto-deletion will make those questions answer less
@Yatin Yes, but that wasn't my point :) What I tried to say was that perhaps this post is there instead of a comment, because a lot of users keep saying: Don't put answers in comments.
Then you come along and say: Put this answer in a comment.
Yeah that is true...
@Scratte I hope the people who support this idea aren't planning on implementing it on meta
13:39
@Yatin I hope they don't implement in on meta nor on main :)
But I wouldn't worry about it. There's a very long list of things people want. It's way longer than feasible to implement. And the list is not the same list as the list Stack wants to implement. And that list is probably also longer than is feasible :)
^ NAA
^ SPAM :-) not NAA
@Yatin How do you know? Did you go to the link?
Not sure what to do with this Answer. Is it partly an Answer?
13:54
I am thinking I was wrong... I translated it and it isn't talking about a product... searched on the link and couldn't find the same username (or any username for that matter)
I retracted and reflagged as NAA
Ahh.. I translate those before flagging them :) And even if I see Spam, I do not expect the ones that handle the flag to translate the post, so I'm always more reluctant to flag "foreign" as spam
@Scratte Not flagging that one. It seems to be sort of an Answer.
@Scratte it is link only :(
@Yatin wow so my 2nd flag was also wrong... it should have been VLQ all along
@Yatin Yes, the Smokey one is. So I flagged it NAA.
@Yatin But the other one I posted doesn't have a link :)
@HovercraftFullOfEels why though... it seems like a VLQ and not a spam answer...
@Yatin That is a misunderstanding. Links only posts are under the "Not an Answer" group. You can flag them with NAA or VLQ. It doesn't matter much. I always flag them NAA. I don't think I've ever used a VLQ flag.
14:02
@Yatin The OP has posted multiple of the same as answer to other questions with the same link. Others have been deleted as spam.
@HovercraftFullOfEels oh.. when I had checked they had just posted this one... thanks :)
@Yatin: for example this one
You didn't see the previous ones
Yep my bad I got confused
nah, fp
Interesting that a name of a city is a "bad keyword"
I congratulate Indian scammers on this. Their efforts are ruining the Indian reputation (along with Indian city names)
14:16
@Yatin Not sure that is a valid reason. There are scammers everywhere. Even in a small village in the middle of nowhere in a Scandinavian country :)
Pretty sure other large Indian cities are also on this list
I'm not about to post a Question to find out ;)
@Scratte I think you can ask smokey... not sure if that requires privileges
Naah.. I don't need to know the list of "bad keywords". If I do, I can't later claim I didn't know :D
@Scratte it needs the "Agents&dcity=" part and the city name
14:26
@Yatin Ahh.. I see London is not a bad keyword :D
I though so :)
Yes, I commented to that fact. But I'm not entirely sure since I've never actually configured ports.. Is that something users do? :)
"one router GPON040 with usb port support printer" routers can be connected to printers with usbs???
Hardware is weird
Not sure I understand. How would you connect a printer to your network?
14:48
the question sounds like the router has a USB port for this purpose; I have never seen hardware like that but maybe it exists
@Scratte we have a large listing of predominantly Indian city names because there is a persistent pattern of spam for car rental in Kolkata, web design in Dubai, neurosurgeon in Hyderabad, etc etc
(I know Dubai is not in India, but based on the similarity of the spam, it might as well be)
@tripleee My home router (from BT in the UK) has a USB port, as shown in bt.com/help/broadband/learn-about-the-ports-on-your-bt-hub . The web page says it is for charging. Some forums suggest that it can also be used for connecting storage media.
@tripleee I think I've been to some of those cities :)
15:09
@Scratte I am in one of :)
@Vega Not sure if I should congratulate you or give you my sympathy ;)
Be glad for me, I am happy were I am :)
Ok. Good :)
I see some are not cities, but areas in one of the biggest cities
@tripleee wow that list is disappointing :(
"Jim Corbett" is a National park. God I hate these spammers :(
15:17
@Yatin I was just wondering where in the world Jim Corbett was
@tripleee I love that it's ordered alphabetically
Why is Abu Dhabi listed as "not cities"?
@Scratte I have been to a lot of them. And lived in 3
Fun fact Hyderabad is also in Pakistan
Abu Dhabi is an Emirate, is not?
@AdrianMole capital city in fact :)
> Abu Dhabi is the capital and the second-most populous city of the United Arab Emirates
And also an emirate.
15:26
OK - city and 'state' share the same name.
... bit like Singapore, but the beer isn't as good?
@JohnDvorak it was less organized before and then we discovered that it had duplicates and what not
"can every one help me"
Yes, we can
One for all, all for one :D
15:34
@tripleee how about adding name variations to this list? For example "Tiruchirappalli" is also called "Trichy" and "Mumbai" used to be called "Bombay", "Kochi " is also called "Cochin" and so on... I feel like local scammers are more likely to use local names... People still call Mumbai as Bombay
In French it is still Bombay
Worli, Kandivali, Malad, Gatkophar, Marine Lines, Mulund are in Mumbai
Yeah true
@JeanneDark Please schedule an appointment with the world.
Currently reviewing Triage so nobody can help me anymore
If you ever want an easy way out, just hit the Please ban me from review button.
15:52
Hopefully it works ;)
16:10
Not sure what's going on in this c Question, but it seems.. strange.
16:22
@Scratte I'm going to guess someone made a call there..
@Yatin we do try to add those as they come up, it would probably makes sense for someone who knows the geography spend an afternoon in metasmoke looking for cities and spelling or naming variations we missed
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I flagged both the answers as NAA
I would have thought we had Trichy on the list already
@Zoe Ahh.. I wasn't sure they would be, since there still was a little information there.
yup it's there
17:18
"waiting onling,thanks!"
@JeanneDark I've just CV'd the majority of other the questions as they're general computing. Looks like a grand total of two of the questions are on topic for that tag, but the tag is so vague I'm not even sure if they are.
What would be the appropriate close reason for this question or is it suitable? Needs more focus?
17:58
:50769932 I see you changed your mind :)
Why is Charcoal spamming SO? stackoverflow.com/a/64516257
@DavidBuck :O What in the world is that?!?
@Scratte Spambot turned spammer
@DavidBuck I don't think that is a bot. If so it's unregistered.. it could be a test.
@Scratte Not convinced. Makyen has just reported it to Smokey before deleting it. My vote is troll.
18:11
Yeah it's definitely not a test from actual Charcoal folks
Whoever's doing it is spamming them across the network, too
I didn't flag it.. the 0 score had me puzzled.
I'm no python expert, but the answer on this Question seems to indicate a typo.
@DavidBuck At what reputation level do you get those troll votes? :)
@cigien Is it too broad?
@Dharman Not exactly, it's clear what they want, it's just they haven't tried anything themself. I VTCed with "Needs detail/clarity". Is that not the right reason?
I'm thinking this is probably rude. Any thoughts?
I don't really see a reason to close it. It's seems clear enough to me
@Scratte Yes
18:48
@Dharman Oh, I thought requests for code were off-topic.
Stack Overflow is the place where you can get the code. This is literally the purpose of this site
We don't write apps, software or websites for you, but we do help with code or algorithms. Such questions have to be reasonably scoped
@Dharman Hmm, but aren't users supposed to put in a good faith effort? This isn't a hard question.
I.e. "Can you show me how to loop an array in Java" is ok, but "Can you write this app for me" is not.
Well, if there is no effort you can downvote.
I agree with Dharman :) Stack would be a worse place if we closed post for "no effort"
In any case, the question was closed.
18:54
@Dharman Interesting. I'm pretty sure "Can you show me how to loop an array in c++?" would get closed very soon. But I think I see your point. I should down-vote, but not VTC, correct?
Yes, showing effort is not mandatory on Stack Overflow, but it makes your question look much better if you do provide something
@Dharman Ok, understood, thanks. I'm not comfortable voting to reopen here, but I'll bear that in mind in the future.
@cigien The primary thing that I keep in mind is that nowhere in the help center does it mention effort. The homework part mentions narrowing down what part the user is having trouble with. One can argue that is effort, which in my opinion it is. Writing a post properly explaining things always takes some effort :) But a lot of user will close vote posts for "no effort", which.. I'm not very happy about.
Can someone tell me if this post was self-deleted?
"How do I do X?" questions are some of the most useful ones which SO gets. However, in order for it to be useful to many people, "X" needs to be very narrowly scoped. The best ones are sufficiently narrow such that they are a building block which would be used as part of a full task.
@Scratte it was
19:03
@JohnDvorak Thank you. I expected as much when it went pink on me.
^ I agree it can be deleted. I wanted to roll back but there is nothing to roll back to
19:26
@Zoe I rolled it back
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... I did not notice that was an edit
@Zoe We don't allow Nick to use the newspaper here, so it's all good
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:D
:squint:
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yep
IMO yes
How do you tell which of the comments this is actually about?
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It links to the comment
If it jumps to the top of the post, the comment has been deleted
@tink I fink it's gorn, alweddy.
19:39
@AdrianMole Oh, that would explain it =}
I'm too slow, yet again ;)
There's a moderator on fire (as on a rocket or something like that.. not actually on fire :-).. my flags are getting handled before I raise them :)
Sounds like Bhargav's about.
Can fire be a drug? Is it addictive? :)
Don't know about fire, but nitro-glycerine is a narcotic. (Smoke it and it blows your mind away?)
Hmm.. I'll have to try it :)
19:44
Sorry, too lazy to check, does roomba work on posts with an accepted answer? Net score <= 0 on all answers.
no, accepted answer is always a deal breaker
@rene Ah, got it, thanks :)
@Scratte Bhargav is on and the queue is virtually empty
20:10
@cigien Do you use user scripts?
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@cigien No, there's never roomba with an accepted answer
Does this answer have anything to do with the question?
@Scratte No, why?
@JeanneDark nope
Thanks! Just to make sure I didn't miss anything.
20:24
@cigien There is a user script that tells if a post will Roomba :) See the message from Makyen here :) You need a user script manager though. Before you install the script.
@JeanneDark =D
@Scratte Ooh, that's very nice, thanks :) Ah, maybe I'll do that, and start using userscripts.
@cigien Everyone recommends the "Tampermonkey" extension to chrome. It also works on Opera, which I'm using.
@cigien Once you start, you don't go back ;)
@Scratte Haha, that's mostly what's been holding me back :) Once I start doing something and I like it, I get hooked. I have an addictive personality, so I try to be selective with what I make a habit :p
@cigien The addiction is real. One even starts to write small scripts without even knowing JavaScript :D
20:30
@Scratte Does anyone really know JavaScript though? ;)
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But then you just search for stuff on a website for developers called Stack Overflow and mix and match whatever works ;)
@cigien Some know a lot less than others :D
@Scratte I know just enough to know I find it distasteful ;)
@tink I know. Java is so much better ?!? ;)
@Scratte LOL ... I've had a hate/hate relationship w/ Java since ~ 1997 ;D
20:44
@tink The first programming book I ever read was Brian&Dennis. I was very intrigued with it.. until I reached the chapter about pointers to functions that return pointers to functions that take functions that return pointers to functions as parameters.. and I figured that was a little too messy for me.
@Scratte =D ... C has its pitfalls for sure =D
Is this just a link?
@Scratte I think so
21:01
@Scratte I flagged it VLQ through the Natty userscript, which added another comment
@Vickel I recognize it :) Advanced flagging?
@Scratte Natty reporter, which I prefer over Advanced flagging
Ahh.. yes, I tried it. I didn't like the VLQ flagging, so I figured I had to change it. But I didn't get around to it.
^link only answers are flagged as VLQ by Natty reporter and as NAA by advanced flagging
I think a user script to make comments with the option to append predefined text is on the top of the list though.
21:06
I just used the script, as I know its not a late answer, so Natty actually has nothing to do with it, but it creates the flag and the comment
I'm not happy about those canned comments. I have my own list. But I mix and match them and I don't want a Cartesian product of comments to pick from :)
If anyone flagged this NAA, note that the Answer had been edited. You may want to remove your comment @Vickel :)
@Scratte I'd like to retract my flag, since the answer was edited, but as the flag was already marked as helpful, can't do it, will remove the comments so
I think you mean union. A cartesian product would be pretty unusable.
@JohnDvorak A union would just be all of them, no? While the carterian product would be all the combinations, no?
It would.
How do you even combine two canned comments into a single one?
21:13
@JohnDvorak Yes, I do :) I have a canned one about checking out the tour. And one about comments. If both fit, I copy's paste twice :)
^ using "and"? :-)
Actually I have multiple about comments. Depending on the reputation of the user, and if they wanted to comment on another Answer or shouldn't comments at all.. and.. and.. and.. :)
 
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22:55
@Dharman closed as wrong dupe, I've corrected that for historical accuracy before vtd'ing
@Dharman what do you think it should be flagged for?
Unneeded at best, but it is also rude in my opinion
Calling us toxic is very rude
@Dharman but perhaps accurate on occasion? I'll go with unneeded...
@Dharman Well, that depends on how it's phrased right? Otherwise it's just an opinion. What's wrong with that?
@Dharman did I miss something again? :}
I take offence when I do so much work and people tell me I am toxic.
22:59
Can't see the word toxic anywhere
I am talking about the comment not the duplicate I requested to be deleted to make things clear.
@Dharman it wasn't personally addressed to anyone, so I think it's opinion. The comment has been deleted now anyway...
I am too slow ... =}
@Dharman I empathize with that, but taking offence has nothing to with it IMO. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate it if people said you were rude just because they're offended by your opinions.
Fair enough.
With comments the only result I am looking for is them getting removed. I don't pay much attention to their classification
I think that we can agree such comments should be removed
23:03
Absolutely :) I was only bickering about calling it rude.
@cigien being anal-retentive about precise wording is not bickering ;}
@tink Indeed :)
Nice avatar, btw. I love Magritte =}
@tink Yes, they have some absolutely lovely pieces :)
Heh. He's my favourite surrealist hands-down =}
23:32
Can this be fixed or deleted? stackoverflow.com/q/64324684/1839439
@Dharman it was closed as a dupe by OP. how would you fix it?
Remove the solution or roll back
@Dharman ah, didn't look at it closely enough. since the answer isn't actually relevant to the original question (based on comments) I'd probably vtd
@Dharman how the typo is obvious?
no comments or something?
@desertnaut OP simply rebooted and it worked, so it's not reproducible
23:41
@Dharman i guess you should not have rolled back the edit saying so then
Why not? The edit was inappropriate and I wanted OP to see that.
but how the reviewers would see that it was actually not-reproducible?
@Dharman yeah but how is anyone else supposed to know - without wasting time looking through the revision history - that the problem is no longer reproducible? a comment to the effect that the edit was inappropriate would have been better.
I, for one, could not see that
@Nick indeed
That is certainly a problem, but I can't take the blame. OP should delete the question if it turned out to be unreproducible. I rolled back inappropriate edit and I asked the room to close it pointing to the revision.
23:45
@Dharman well, the "see rev" was lost...
@Dharman you should have linked to the revision history instead of the question
I can't expect the review queue to handle it, but this is why we have this room where I can provide a comment explaining why I think this should be closed
Then people would yell at me for putting a link to the revision in cv-pls
Well, perhaps you could just say "see revision history" next time so it was more obvious...
Ok, I will make it more obvious next time.
@Dharman in any case, the Q should not remain without an indication that indeed it is not-reproducible - even for folks going through the review queue
23:48
I won't fight you on that, but I mostly agree with the first part of your sentence "the Q should not remain"
I won't fight you on anything :)
I'm just sayin
I saw a cv-pls request, and, when I visited the thread, I was trying to see where it is indicated so
w/o success

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