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8:00 PM
I wonder what it was before that 66
 
or Finland
 
Wait so since bloomberg has gone out it's gone up to 75%
Id' love to see something listing the year by year rate but can't
Man those scandinavian countries are miles ahead of canada even
Maybe kilometers is the better word
he he
 
> There are no mandated standardized tests in Finland, apart from one exam at the end of students’ senior year in high school. There are no rankings, no comparisons or competition between students, schools or regions. Finland’s schools are publicly funded. The people in the government agencies running them, from national officials to local authorities, are educators, not business people, military leaders or career politicians.
 
that's actually the same as it is here
From what I've seen in the past 5 years actually is that Canada has been creeping up on those Scandinavian countries in those areas which is nice
 
> The result is that a Finnish child has a good shot at getting the same quality education no matter whether he or she lives in a rural village or a university town. The differences between weakest and strongest students are the smallest in the world, according to the most recent survey by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). “Equality is the most important word in Finnish education. All political parties on the right and left agree on this,”
 
8:04 PM
The one thing they are still smoking us though, the prison system there is phenomenal
 
> Ninety-three percent of Finns graduate from academic or vocational high schools, 17.5 percentage points higher than the United States, and 66 percent go on to higher education, the highest rate in the European Union. Yet Finland spends about 30 percent less per student than the United States.
 
That's at least twice now this week I've seen Dave say he doesn't have time for something but keeps discussing it :D
 
@DaveS no it doesnt
@DaveS who said "merit" is based on graduation rates and test scores
 
because that's how it's always discussed
 
@ballBreaker graduation in what? throwing snoballs?
 
8:06 PM
They can give other monetary or whatever incentives to work at those schools
 
yes, there is a very strict curriculum here on how to properly throw a snowball
 
For example, how police officers can get a house cheaper because it's in a not so great neighborhood
 
@ballBreaker NYC's current mayor is an idiot
 
I'll be honest I find like 99.9% of politicans to be idiots haha
 
@DaveS do you get grades?
 
@DaveS no, theres an entire debate on this
and we probably agree on how to judge merit
you do it based on improvement
we don't need to have a debate if you don't want to
my ideas on education are pretty radical
 
until you can show me a good way to differentiate good teachers from bad teachers I don't think merit based teacher pay is a good idea
 
again, improvement and evaluations like any job
 
you could have great teachers who are already doing a great job, then there's no improvement
why don't they deserve bonuses?
 
@DaveS huh?
@DaveS who said they don't deserve bonuses?
 
8:13 PM
you can't measure good improvement if there's no where to improve because you're doing a good job
and what about teachers who might pass kids just for that bonus money
 
its the students who need to improve not the teacher
@DaveS thats why you have standardized measurements
 
standardized testing doesn't work well, why would this?
again I encourage you to read the article I posted about Finland's system which is rated as the best in the world
 
testing is one option but there are others
 
Education should not be run like a capitalist business
it should be run in the interest of the children
 
You are right. But some capitalist ideas should be implemented.
 
8:15 PM
read the article and come back
 
@DaveS ok read it. Not much facts. Too much fluff. Got very little information about it besides "Finland does x, US does y".
 
well it's a story piece that compares the differences
 
and most of that was for very low ages
7-9yr olds
Education isn't the same at that age
 
8:32 PM
cool
you're gonna be really old by the time that comes around ;)
 
true
 
Damn this is cool though
 
what's the topic now?
200 messages away from bernie medicines
 
nevermind I gapped out and missed a paragraph lmao
 
basically a company is using new 2018 lasers to shoot hydrogen at boron and triggers fusion without waste, super hot temps or damaging neutrons
 
8:39 PM
sigh Barbara from shark tank got scammed out of 400k cnn.com/2020/02/27/business/barbara-corcoran-email-hack-trnd/…
 
it makes it feasible and safe
 
Yeah the whole "having to heat the fuel to temps higher than the surface of the sun" seems like a bit of a tiny little barrier.. just a little one
 
rather than using heat it produces helium with a positive charge which could be captured and turned into electricity
 
Yeah this is the first quantifiable step towards cold fusion I've seen in a long-ass time (AKA my entire life)
 
also supposedly possible to work on smaller scales making it feasible for ships and vehicles
I liked that joke
 
8:42 PM
Well what we need to do is get the generators right beside the sun to absorb the sun temperature..then transmit the energy back to earth in the form of .. hmm particles of some sort
maybe light?
(I liked it too)
 
@ballBreaker perfect, then we could use solar panels to capture that light and generate energy
 
8:54 PM
how do i decide where to put methods that interact with two modals? X and Y have 1:n relationship. With X x = new X(id); do I do Y.getForXid(x.id); or x.getYs()?
does that make sense?
LinkQA's can have many comments. Should I put the method that gets comments for a link in the LinkQA model or the Comments model?
 
o/
@JBis both are correct, however you usually use the first for DB operations and second for a programmatic data model
 
whats the difference?
 
just use a merit based system, rank the comments by which shows the most improvement
 
@ballBreaker I took 2 days off :D
 
@DaveS sure, thats just the "hot" sorting on reddit
 
9:01 PM
@DaveS ahhh and who said the perfect solution to solving humanities energy problem doesn't exist
@Mehdi nice!! How was it?
 
now we just gotta figure out how to ship a fusion reactor to the sun
 
Two words
Space. Force.
 
lmao
 
brilliant
 
@JBis in #1, when you query Y, you'll query all the Xs, when Y is supposed to be just a wrapper, your client only care about Xs, and Y is just "top info", so which operation is the most used, x.getY? howver in the code, it's logical, you'll go for Y and would wanna get everything and keep it around
@ballBreaker so relaxing, I slept a lot and did nothing besides small plans XD
 
9:06 PM
ok i guess that makes sense
 
@ballBreaker this plus insanse amounts of preasure
and containemnet to witstand such hight temps and preasure
@DaveS also this is more or less obsolete since the power requieremnt is way higher than the output generated
~ reaction cant maintain itself
 
@IvanMilisavljevic they said in their simulations it started a chain reaction and looks really promising
 
@Mehdi ahhh beautiful man beautiful
 
@DaveS i guess i missed that
 
@ballBreaker how are you doing?
 
9:11 PM
I'm pretty good! Thanks :) my life always settles down and takes a nice calm approach when I take a break from dating lol
But then the itch eventually overcomes that desire for calm
 
there is a new experimental reactor (by ITER) which also looks really promissing
 
Starting to feel it a bit but going to push through that for a few weeks if I can
 
problem with laseres is that they require a lot of input energy
 
So overall (TLDR) I'm good!! :D
 
Hahahah
 
9:12 PM
:sleepy.:
 
@IvanMilisavljevic yeah but if this method works they won't need the high energy magnetic containment systems tokomaks and other styles need
 
@IvanMilisavljevic we just gotta harnass the power of cyclops' eyes
 
@ballBreaker some "me time", right? :D
 
because this method doesn't produce the damaging neutrons and other particles
 
9:14 PM
@Mehdi exactly! :D
 
That's healthy :D
 
man I think I just had my first productive discussion with a vegan over reddit ever
I should buy a lottery ticket on the way home
 
i have to brush up my fusion knowladge
 
What was it about?
 
im startng to miss a lot of scientific experiments
 
9:15 PM
it was in r/vegan which is even more surprising, but some post hit the frontpage about meat killing you
and I basically asked for actual scientific articles about the subject, and got a few back which triggered some discussions on the health benefits/negatives of going vegan
because for every 1 journal/article advocating for veganism I found a contradictory one about eating meat
and when I say article I mean actual published scientific clinical trial
I think the key to the discussion was keeping it 100% about health and avoiding "ethics" at every possible cost
 
And what was the conclusion? That both have their benefits and drawbacks? :D
 
More or less, yeah and they gave me some things to check out, specifically some condensed resources like documentaries/books
They never admitted that there were benefits to meat eating, but reading between the lines they never disputed my points on it or called me a monster
I could never go vegan, but I'm not against reducing the meat intake for my own health if it turns out it would have positive effects on me
My conclusion from it, was that it's fine to eat meat, as long as you are eating generally healthy. Another conclusion was that most of the vegan-proponent journals and studies were like "morbidly obese diabetes type 2 patient on the verge of a heart attack goes vegan and gets better"
like yeah, no shit.
 
besides health, I honestly think that mass production of meat is harmful in most ways
 
i like steak
 
air pollution, more risks of epidemies like the mad cow and h1n1 etc...
 
9:22 PM
come to ny, we got some great steak
and pizza
 
@JBis i believe in moderation, is it meagan?
 
is that fake meat or something?
 
I just merged, meat and vegan to say that I moderate my consumption of both :D
 
(it was a bad joke)
 
9:27 PM
@Mehdi yes environmentally mass production is bad
I'm with you there, but I get my meat from a butcher and I know what farm it comes from and it's anything but mass produced, so I'm cool with that :)
I don't usually go into the ethical or environmental aspect for that reason
 
can't get good pizza out of ny
 
@ballBreaker yeah, if everyone was doing like that, like once or twice a week, it would be perfect
 
or bagels
 
@Mehdi yeah for suresies
 
or pizza bagels
 
9:30 PM
@JBis never been to NYC and I've had verifiably great pizza and bagels
I verified it myself
and I have a degree in pizzology and bagelnomics
3
 
Snow, doesn't count
 
On that note I'm gunna dip out early again to try to avoid some snow traffic
wow it's almost like I'm a mind reader
;)
 
Bb seems to suspiciously always leave early
cya o/
 
hehe shhh
o/
 
I came across an article about the Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, that's scary stuff
Cya
 
9:59 PM
the problem with going vegan is dietary iron is difficult to absorb outside meat, for some reason iron is much more easily absorbed when it comes from meat. Iron is very important for blood and brain health, iron deficient babies have trouble forming memories which negatively impacts learning
so even small amounts of meat may be better for your brain and blood than going completely vegan
 
personally, I prefer cannibalism
 
holy crap stock markets are tanking hard today
everythings down 4+%
 
it's because of the democrat debate, Dave
 
lmao
totally not because Trump fired the cdc's pandemic team and a case just showed up in Cali with unknown origins
totally not because a science denier is in charge of the response
 
correct
it's because of the Do Nothings Democrats
 
10:04 PM
don't worry corona virus will just disappear in a month
 
> President Donald Trump suggested that the new coronavirus would “go away” in April, as temperatures warm.
 
at least we have a nice partially complete wall we can use to enforce the quarantine
 
one of the dumbest things trump has said
@DaveS nice one
 
because no one has ever caught the flu in April
well glad I moved all my money into bonds when the yield curve inverted
 
10:08 PM
today Warren proposed a bill funding fighting coronavirus by taking away money from the wall
 
hahaha I hope that passes
 
meh market will go up soon
just got to wait for it to pass
 
I wouldn't be so sure
international supply chains are at a deadlock
and the market will drop if bernie wins the presidency
stock markets hate his plans
if he gets the nomination they are gonna price in the chance of him being president
there's also a lot of money in junk bonds that could turn sour just like the mortgage crisis
 
if bernie wins market will drop and then go back up
 
right, that's when I'm buying
 
10:10 PM
and it doesn't matter cause bernie aint gonna win :)
 
bernie 2020, just you wait
 
Thats popular vote
 
why can't I make links anymore
 
i wouldn't be surpised if bernie won popular vote but trump won electoral
@DaveS exactly
 
she was much closer in polling and had low turnout
 
@DaveS what about lentils? they're very rich with iron
 
bernie drives tons of turnout
same with spinach but it's poorly absorbed
you don't get most of it
 
ah, I didn't know
 
10:13 PM
turns out a lot of people will show up to events when someone is promising you life-changing amounts of money lol
 
cries in yang gang
 
@trevor-e either money or fear, either way
@Mehdi my wife is vegetarian, not vegan, takes iron supplements and is just barely in the normal levels, she's been deficient multiple times in her life
I eat meat one meal a day usually and have 0 problems
 
I was hoping Martin O'Malley would run again, he seemed like a saner version of Clinton.
From what I remember at least, could be wrong on that.
 
I don't think a centrist candidate can beat Trump. People are sick of the status quo, that's why Donald got elected in the first place
 
10:18 PM
lots of people I know voted 3rd party or just didn't vote because of how the primary played out last year
 
thoughts? And do you think it should open by default?
5 hours ago, by JBis
From a pure anti-trump perspective it comes down to how you think you win elections. If you think you win with high voter turnout, you should support Bernie. If you believe you need to get swing voters and some of the opposite party, you should support Bloomberg.
 
you're the first user and you chose jbis9501?
I'd rather support pete or klobuchar or biden than bloomberg
 
I think the status quo was more about the politicians themselves, not necessarily their policies
 
@DaveS I don't think you can draw that conclusion, many people "suffer" from an iron lack without being vegetarians
 
10:39 PM
 
wow not even the majority smh
 
no not a majority, but 40% is a lot
basically my wife's doctor told her the best way to raise her iron levels would be to eat meat, but obviously that's not an option for her so recommended the supplements
 
that's a lot
 
and the supplements get absorbed as well as the iron contained in the meat?
 
10:42 PM
no, that's why she's barely in the healthy level
she consumes more iron than she needs but her body doesn't get it all
the issue is iron oxidizes easily and becomes unabsorbable
 
that's interesting, they don't know what causes meat to increase absorption?
 
but when it's in hemoglobin and other meat based forms it's easier to absorb
at least I think that's the theory
 
I am really looking forward to hearing about all the new gut research over the next decade
 
ah yeah it's the heme form
> Meat, fish and poultry contain the heme form, which is easily absorbed by your body. Non-heme iron is mainly found in plant foods, but this form is harder for your body to absorb.
you can include foods high in vitamin C which is an acid to break down the iron and increase absorbtion
calcium on the other hand inhibits absorbtion
@trevor-e same, micro biome stuff is really under researched
 
@DaveS TIL, thanks
 
10:54 PM
@DaveS yeah why not?
 
usually people assign numbers because their preferred one is taken
you coulda been just JBis
 
i mean i can rename, thats on dev server
And 9051 has been my favorite number since i was like 2
do you think comments should be open by default or nah?
 
why not
 
may get annoying to scroll idk
 
11:24 PM
should question comments and answers comments be two seperate table or have two columns in the "comments" table and have one be null depending on if its a question or answer?
 

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