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12:11 AM
cbg
 
12:26 AM
dupe needed for for this
 
12:42 AM
Bruh
 
rbrb
 
 
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1:49 AM
anyone ever used Falcon before?
 
 
1 hour later…
2:59 AM
@piRSquared I wish there were a "Pandas merge asof 101". . . that function's inner workings are beyond me
 
 
2 hours later…
4:33 AM
Hi folks, why do I get a strange result when executing the following?

word = "doll"
word.join("+3+")
I got '+doll3doll+'
instead of 'doll+3+'
 
@MoneyOrientedProgrammer you might figure it out by reading stackoverflow.com/questions/493819/…
PS, word.join('+3+') is the same as word.join(['+', '3', '+'])
To concatenate two strings, use a + b
 
@cs95: Thanks. I got it!
I misunderstood the purpose of join.
Good bye. :-)
 
 
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6:58 AM
stackoverflow.com/questions/56698210/… but I don't know as what, since rtfm isn't part of the list.
 
7:53 AM
Hi guys anybody here?
I have a doubt regarding pandas
 # Getting postal code wise count of AIDs
postal_code_level = adr_data.groupby(['postal_code'])
postal_code_level_AID = postal_code_level['district'].sum()
I have a column called district thats storing address IDs
The address IDs are all in the form of integers
I am trying to get a count of them grouped by postal code
Is the above approach I used correct? If not what should I be using?
 
8:12 AM
Is there any reason why installing software requires admin privileges on every OS? Like, I don't need admin privileges to compile and run a program. Which part of the installation process is so dangerous that it requires special permissions?
 
on linux installed stuff that need root go into /usr etc., which blatantly need root permissions
also these installs affect every user which is only trivial if you're the only user
 
There isn't a (easy) way to install stuff only for myself, is there?
 
@RaphX does it give you your expected output?
 
@Aran-Fey depends. With package managers, probably not
120
Q: How can I install a package without root access?

WeboideI have no root access on this machine. I would like to know if there is a way I can download Ubuntu packages and install them as non-root? Probably in my ~/bin or ~/usr/share or something like that? Would that work?

 
Bleh. Maybe someday there'll be an OS that does permissions right and that doesn't have a 50/50% chance of crashing when I try to suspend.
@AndrasDeak So much work for something that could be done with a --user flag!
(in an ideal world)
(or even just a slightly less stupid world)
 
8:31 AM
 
Not really following the logic there. If it's as easy as downloading and extracting the package, why is it necessary (and "a pain") to package the program 2 different ways?
 
8:47 AM
@roganjosh Its still executing since I am trying this on a 12 gb txt file
Just for clarification, I have read the file using dtype = str argument
 
9:06 AM
Why are you using sum() if you want the count()?
Also, it shouldn't be taking that long to load the data. You're probably thrashing your memory
How much RAM do you have?
Actually, I think I'm just confused, there seem to be inconsistencies in what you're saying. I'm not sure why you mention dtype=str when you say that the IDs are integers. And I don't see what use .sum() would be on identifiers when you want the count. You would be better just testing the approach on dummy data that waiting over an hour for this to work to presumably give unexpected results
 
9:21 AM
The IDs are in the form of integers but I am importing the data as strings(all of it)
Ok @roganjosh
I am running the script on a cloud desktop which has around 240 GB of RAM(used + unused)
 
Does anyone know an approach to reporting cascade behaviour for SQLAlchemy? I've found a few ways of generating graphs for database foreign keys, but I don't think it's sufficient to know whether you'll get orphans as the number of tables grows
I have a feeling that I'm throwing myself off-course with "visualisation", perhaps there's a better term for what I'm looking for.
 
9:47 AM
cbg
 
> __slots__ are implementation detail of CPython
^ that's wrong, right?
 
10:32 AM
cabbage, and happy summer day pythonistas
 
10:43 AM
@Aran-Fey That's wrong. __slots__ is a feature of Python. But how it's implemented in CPython is (obviously) an implementation detail.
@RaphX Seriously, you should not be testing your code on the full 12GB data file! You should create a small file of a few kilobytes (at most) that contains sample data that can be used to test every feature of your code.
 
11:05 AM
Ok @PM2Ring will do that
 
11:18 AM
rbrb
 
12:06 PM
cbg
 
cbg
 
cbg
 
@smallpants I've used it, but not for a while, and just for prototyping, not for a production system. Very lightweight REST server package. I wrote some backend microservices with it, and tied them in with supervisor to manage startup/shutdown of the several REST servers.
 
Python is where it's at
 
It looks like supervisor is finally supporting Python3 - I hadn't checked back in a while.
 
I am back!!
 
yay
 
:-)
 
12:38 PM
Yesterday I made a pull request and didn't bungle anything at all. I notice that I can submit PRs about ten minutes faster if I skip the bungling; so the eight hour git tutorial I took will pay for itself in a mere 48 PRs.
 
Factor in the 8 hours into amortized cost of bungling
 
I make about three PRs per year, so in 2035 I'll break even
 
Also factor in how much time it occupies to ruminate on bungled PRs posted two years ago
 
12:52 PM
My embarrassing memory retention lobe is already at full capacity, so I don't have to worry too much about that
 
Hi!
Is `example_dict.get('key1', {}).get('key2')` slower than `example_dict['key1']['key2']` due to the empty dict creation?
 
I would expect it to be a little slower, sure.
 
Try using timeit eg. python -m timeit "{}.get('a', {}).get('b')"
 
Mm hmm, timeit is a good tool for performance benchmarking. You can also use dis to compare the quantity and type of byte code instructions in each approach. e.g. pastebin.com/tMsJ8eDg
Of course, just because g has fewer instructions, doesn't mean that it's always faster. Exception handling is fairly slow, so if key1 and key2 are frequently absent, then you might expect g to be slower than f in that case.
 
For me it it goes from ~18usec per loop with .get to ~0.04 usec per loop with [].
 
1:00 PM
(I'm assuming that you've got a try-catch around example_dict['key1']['key2'] to handle missing keys, or else you're rather comparing apples and oranges)
 
Yeah I didn't have a try except. And that's the happy path for both.
 
1:16 PM
@anukul I assume that in your real code, the keys are actually variables, not fixed strings. And that you're probably doing this in a loop. As Kevin's dis output shows, a fresh empty dict gets created every time example_dict.get('key1', {}) is executed, even if the key exists. That's not efficient, especially if you are doing it in a loop.
 
1:32 PM
hey all, i was wondering how I can get the last business day (which accounts for weekends). So for example if its Monday, I can get Friday's date
 
But you wouldn't want to reuse the same dict
 
I can only find old examples which don't work properly or are verbose
 
@andy Can you link to one of those examples? Might make a good starting point.
 
the highest rating answer, returns a Sunday when i test this with a Monday
 
@AndrasDeak In this case, I think the same empty dict would work
 
1:35 PM
Using pandas to do date arithmetic... I feel like I'm in that "need to add two numbers? Try jquery" parody
 
Well but for that you can just example_dict.get(key)
{} is guaranteed not to contain key2
 
@kevin dont know that parody, but ye it didnt make sense that they were using pandas rather than datetime
i dunno if i;m being really thick, but i am struggling with this in python. Funnily enough its easy in excel
 
@AndrasDeak Yes, but if key1 does exist in example_dict, and key2 does exist in example_dict[key1], they want to get it, not just key1
 
Matters of overkill aside, I'm surprised this highly upvoted answer returns an incorrect result for you.
 
@PaulMcG hmm, you're right.
 
1:38 PM
/me marking entry in my diary
 
heh
 
I would love an MCVE... It would save me the effort of looking up how to construct a pd.datetime that corresponds to last monday
 
@AndrasDeak What Paul said. In that code, the empty dict is never populated, it's only used so that the following .get has a dict to operate on, and of course, 'key2' won't be in that dict, so the 2nd .get returns None. Personally, I'd refactor the code, possibly using in, especially if the odds are high of the 1st key not existing.
 
Or if they always query with both keys, then change to use the (k1, k2) tuple as keys
 
hi there
 
1:41 PM
@kevin all i am trying to do is get the last business date from today. So if its a monday then i want friday. The whole pd nonsense comes from the best rated answer on SO. All my other googling is people asking for last business day in a month
 
@Kevin pd.to_datetime(last_monday_as_string) will probably work
 
is there anyone who is familiar with python scripting in maya
?
 
@Andy I hear you, but I want to get to the bottom of this "pandas solution doesn't work for me" mystery before I get to the "I just want to do it with regular datetimes" mystery
 
@Andy dateutil is much less heavy-weight than pandas if you can get that to play ball. Pandas was not meant to be used for only this.
 
@PaulMcG Maybe. But we don't know what the nested dict looks like. Flattening it to use a tuple of keys may be non-trivial.
 
1:43 PM
@it4Astuces maya or mayavi?
 
@AndrasDeak Maya
 
from pandas.tseries.offsets import BDay
x = datetime(2019, 9, 17)
print(x - BDay(1))
gives 2019-09-16
not 2019-0914
 
Strange. When I do print(pd.to_datetime("16/06/2019") - BDay(1)), it prints 2019-06-14 00:00:00, which corresponds to Friday, not Sunday.
Maybe it doesn't like native datetimes...? Or are pandas datetimes an alias for native datetimes?
 
I'm not sure
 
@AndrasDeak Autodesck Maya
 
1:45 PM
@Kevin ah interesting
this is beyond my ability now though
 
@Kevin Well... Sunday isn't a Business Day...
 
i'
 
Oops
 
Not with that attitude
 
Even correcting my braino, the behavior is curious
>>> import pandas as pd
>>> from pandas.tseries.offsets import BDay
>>> from datetime import datetime
>>>
>>> print(pd.to_datetime("17/06/2019") - BDay(1))
2019-06-14 00:00:00
>>> print(datetime(2019, 9, 17) - BDay(1))
2019-09-16 00:00:00
 
1:47 PM
ok so its not just me being a dum dum then @S
@AndrasDeak i'll have a look at dateutil now thanlks
 
Wait a minute. 9/17/2019 AKA september seventeenth is a Tuesday.
 
oh my god
i am a dum dum
really sorry @kevin
 
If I had a nickel for every time I made a mistake like that...
 
@kevin appreciate you taking time to look at this!
 
makes a change to have off by one errors that aren't really off by one at all :p
 
1:49 PM
... I'd make like five nickels a week. Not really much to write home about, I suppose.
I changed my mind, pandas isn't overkill if you need to get the previous business day and you need to take holidays into account
You don't want to write your own implementation that makes sure Friday wasn't the Fourth of July or Easter or something
 
Hi again guys I have another doubt
I have a column of dtype 'str' in my pandas dataframe
I am trying to find if there is any value which is not a number
 
Is it really str dtype? I thought string columns had object dtype in pandas
 
yeah object data type , I just told how I took the data
 
"column of dtype 'str'" is a lie then. Don't lie when asking for help.
 
Sorry I meant string :P
Since string and object are used interchangeably I used thta
*that
adr_data['BLD'].str.isnumeric()
 
2:00 PM
(Now I will lie in wait for someone to suggest str.isdigit to determine whether a string could be converted to a number, and jump out of the bushes and yell that "-1.0".isdigit() returns False despite being entirely convertible to float)
 
However this is giving False for every value despite majority of the values being numbers of form '202' and so on
 
I guess I can do the same thing for isnumeric, but I'll sulk about it
>>> pd.Series(['1', '-1', '1.0', '-1.0']).str.isnumeric()
0     True
1    False
2    False
3    False
dtype: bool
 
There are no numbers of decimal form
 
Ok. "-1" isn't a decimal and it still returns False.
 
No negative either :)
 
2:03 PM
Assuming s is the series or column...
 
Then I'm out of ideas. Kindly provide an MCVE.
 
s[pd.to_numeric(s, errors='coerce').isna()]
 
cbg
 
^ that is everything pandas tried to convert to a number but couldn't
 
@roganjosh Yeah, thumbs are growing wild `round here
 
2:07 PM
Ok it gave 2 values @piRSquared
That makes sense since I have 2 NaN values in the original dataframe
However why didn't the earlier method work? The documentation shows that it would ?
 
if you want to avoid returning the values that were None or NaN prior to attempting to convert to numeric, use dropna first.
As to why you other method didn't work. IDK, I have to scroll up now.
 
no point in scrolling, no MCVE
 
These are the values for that particular Series
 
@RaphX that's not an MCVE
 
Not so big please, you can create a sample 5 rows
 
57 642
70 22
51 11
54 129
88 NaN
87 NaN
18 44
11 76
89 3881
 
it contains too much data and it doesn't actually help knowing what your dataframe is like
 
Ok this will do ?
 
Write a line of python that creates your example dataframe.
it can contain those ^ data
 
adr_data = pd.read_csv('canada_full_chunked_cleaned_matched.csv',nrows =100, sep=",", encoding='utf-8', dtype = str)
 
2:12 PM
nope
also, sep=",", what?
 
??
 
adr_data = pd.DataFrame({<fill in this part>})
 
I didn't do that since read_csv creates a dataframe by default?
 
@RaphX we cant see your csv can we.., what Andras means is you can construct a dummy dataframe ,
 
can and should
 
2:14 PM
you can for the sake of creating an example
 
So, I know that python objects are assigned by reference, but why is that not the case while assigning nested objects?
```
>>> obj = {'a': {'b': {'c': 'd'} } }
>>> sub_obj = obj['a']['b']
>>> sub_obj = None
>>> obj
{'a': {'b': {'c': 'd'}}}
```
Sorry for not participating in the discussion of the questions I post, but I'm actually reading the responses.
 
Hmm, not sure if I'm getting KeyError: 'BLD' trying to run Raph's code because his code is wonky, or because my pandas install is wonky
 
Will do, thanks!
 
also read our formatting guide for chat but that's less crucial now
@Kevin which code?
your dataframe should have a 'BLD' column for that to work
 
2:16 PM
Sorry @AndrasDeak
 
The one starting with adr_data = ...
 
Yeah, it's currently a ME. I could make it an MCVE but Raph has to learn.
 
I'm moderately forgiving of not-quite-MCVEs that require me to paste data into a second file before it can work. But I guess this isn't a not-quite-MCVE even by my standardss.
In any case, don't worry about me going out of my way to hand Raph a solution before he constructs an MCVE for us. I definitely have no idea what I'm doing vis-a-vis pandas.
(and also vis-a-vis most other things, but I digress)
 
v= pd.DataFrame({'BLD':['51', '20', '30', '644', np.nan, np.nan]})
Will this work?
 
if it represents your actual dataframe and produces the issues you see, then yes
 
2:24 PM
What's the problem again? That apparently numeric fields are returning False for isnumeric calls? Because it works fine on my machine.
>>> import pandas as pd
>>> import numpy as np
>>> v= pd.DataFrame({'BLD':['51', '20', '30', '644', np.nan, np.nan]})
>>> print(v['BLD'].str.isnumeric())
0    True
1    True
2    True
3    True
4     NaN
5     NaN
Name: BLD, dtype: object
 
This is the problem, I know this works but its not working for my case
I think I got the issue
Maybe there are spaces after or before the numbers
If you do that modification the same function doesn't work unless we apply a strip first
 
I've been thinking that was probably the problem since thirty seconds after you first asked the question. But I didn't want to say anything until I had data in front of me. An MCVE would have saved us all a lot of time :-)
 
hi guys
how can I return how much a button was clicked in python
is it possible?
??
 
I will remember to do this the next time onwards , sorry @Kevin
 
@it4Astuces Create a variable number_of_times_button_was_clicked = 0. Register an "on click" callback that increments the variable. In the function that needs to return how much a button was clicked, add return number_of_times_button_was_clicked
 
2:32 PM
Thanks for the help guys!
 
>>> import string
>>> string.capwords('hello, world')
'Hello, World'
 
@Kevin are you familiar with python scripting for autodesck maya
?
 
No, but I assume it's a lot like Python scripting for anything else
 
a seemingly useless module function that does the same thing as str.title()
 
title came to my mind as soon as I saw this, didnt even know this existed. :D
 
2:36 PM
@cs95 If my Python history is correct, the string module has been around since Python 1.0.0, so it's bound to have some vestigial oddities.
I can only find documentation going back to 1.4... Here is the string module.
 
when they transitioned from string to str.methods, this guy was left behind. Presumably the difference in behaviour (I'm reading up on it now) was the reason. This seems to split words on whitespace and join them back, while title() does not.
 
I was going to say "surely they wouldn't alter a built-in module's public interface just to fix a design choice they regretted" but then I browsed through the rest of the docs and saw regex and rand
I guess it doesn't count as renaming if you create a new module named re that just happens to do everything regex does, and then maintain them for a couple versions, and then remove regex
 
regex and re are not 100% interchangeable. The former has \K, the latter does not.
unless I'm misremembering
yeah, I remembered pypi.org/project/regex
@Kevin Are you saying there used to be an stdlib regex that is now re?
 
Obsoleted but still accessible by 1.5
 
2:51 PM
@JonClements Double check this for software running in Israel
 
@Kevin I see, thanks
 
Looks like it vanished at 2.0.0's release
 
I like the regex module... the \L is really quite nice...
 
hi guys , are you into cloud computing ? specifically I would like to know how can i implement my own autoscaling algorithm in kubernetes or openstack. It seems quite difficult as I have not come across many resources talking about this topic. Also very sorry to post it here because I know this question would be marked as off-topic or something.
 
@piRSquared will this change with nan ints?
 
3:00 PM
@Kevin awesome. I find it next to impossible to find docs for these stone age versions (:))
 
Nevermind, I managed to forget that the dtype is separate, so you'd have to deliberately walk into strange behaviour
 
@cs95 Likewise, but this time I got lucky and found python.org/doc/versions on my first google query
Tomorrow, this page will be gone, replaced by a brick wall. I'll ask a passerby and they'll tell me that page has been closed down for fifty years... [spooky outro music plays]
 
methinks you have seen one too many Stephen King movies (r/seen/read r/movies/books)
 
This regex module works wonders, but beware, it carries a terrible curse
 
the curse of using regex to parse HTML
(dun dun dun...)
 
3:14 PM
@Kevin can you help me out?
 
@cs95 You would want to avoid looking here :)
 
I thought that's what I was doing. You never actually asked me your Maya question.
 
:46566429 stop that. Don't harass users by repeatedly pinging them.
and edit your messages rather than reposting half-complete ones
 
(I'm assuming your Maya problem has something to do with your "track how many times a button has been pressed" problem. Because I don't mind you pinging me with follow-ups about a problem I already volunteered to help with, but you shouldn't ping people about unrelated questions)
 
3:18 PM
@Kevin sorry, so I have a button "+" that when I click on it adds a layout that contains some inputs
 
@roganjosh I don't see why it would
 
so I have to figure out how much the user click it so I can know how much layout I have
 
and someone solved it using list comprehension
 
@DeveshKumarSingh I'll let it slide this time
 
@cs95 aah okay, but this goes into the echelons on how to misuse pandas, much worse then what you encountered before :)
 
3:22 PM
granted it's incredibly annoying to see people using guns to kill mosquitos, but I'm not about to go and lecture every single user I see
:P
at least, if I want to maintain my sanity
 
Hmm I was hoping the Maya website would have extensive documentation on this sort of thing but every page takes fifteen seconds to load and is riddled with CSS bugs and it's really harshing my groove
Ooh, there's a tutorial. Oh, I have to sign up for their mailing list to see it.
 
@Kevin which tutorial do you talk about?
 
I can't find it again. This site is a mess.
 
hi @it4Astuces you can also reply to a message directly by using the menu to the left of message of the person you want to respond to, and clicking on reply to this message
 
@it4Astuces which part of "and edit your messages rather than reposting half-complete ones" did you not understand?
 
3:27 PM
@it4Astuces like this :)
 
@DeveshKumarSingh Thank you
 
I'm not optimistic that I can help anymore... I like to think I have a better-than-average ability to extract useful information from documentation, but I can't make heads or tails of this if I go in blind.
A shame. Hubris usually works so well for me, most of the time.
 
@AndrasDeak Hi Andras, may I ask why my messaged was moved to Ouroborus, was it because I stated something in that page instead of linking to it?
 
it's because it's needless for you to keep harassing another user when you can clearly see that I'm taking care of their education
 
user10984358
3:32 PM
sorry to barge in, but is there a general rule to know what methods can be used with a map object?
 
@TheNamesAlc regular map object? I'd expect it only knows what iterators do.
 
user10984358
what I mean is

a=[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]
b=map(str,a)
 
Or do you mean what methods you can pass to map as its first argument? Any callable.
 
@Kevin Because My problem is when I click the "+" button the first time it works, but the second time, it adds the new layout in the previous added layout
 
Any callable that makes sense when called on each item of the iterable(s) passed to map.
 
3:33 PM
@AndrasDeak okay, I was trying to help him out with the reply of the message thing, but you think that was harrassment, sure thing, I will try to avoid that if RO are present here
 
user10984358
let me quickly provide an example
 
@DeveshKumarSingh wonderful
 
user10984358
>>> b=map(str,a)
>>> len(b)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: object of type 'map' has no len()
>>> max(b)
'9'
 
@AndrasDeak no problem and you can tell me this right away next time , and harrassment is a big word for trying to help someone, but anyways, rbrb
 
rhubarb
 
user10984358
3:34 PM
the list a is what I posted here earlier, the "len" method fails to work on the map object b but the max does
 
@TheNamesAlc then we're probably back to "I'd expect it only knows what iterators do.", and iterators (or iterables) in general don't have a len method
 
user10984358
so is there a general rule or understanding on what will work without explicitly converting a map to a list?
 
max on the other hand is a function that accepts any kind of iterable
 
user10984358
I kinda understand on what to pass to a map, I was just confused on what methods I can use on the resultant object
 
user10984358
thanks for clarifying
 
3:37 PM
@DeveshKumarSingh Really thank you for your help, and I agree with you from the harrassment thing, I simply ask for help. I did not say anything that can hurt anyone
 
So map will probably only support next to yield each element, and it's up to what's outside to how it consumes the map object. len(m) would use m.__len__ but that's not implemented.
By contrast max, sum and friends all work by iterating over whatever iterable they are passed.
 
@Arne thanks for your email to the jobs list :)
 
4:02 PM
@TheNamesAlc Consider: you could pass an infinite iterable to map, so the resulting map object would also be infinite.
 
Obviously len(map(lambda x: x*2, itertools.count())) should return float("inf") :-P
 
@DeveshKumarSingh i know this user is in love with list comprehension ;) based on my exp in SO
 
Is there a prize if I guess who it is?
 
ha ha :D
 
they're also really good at answering dupes and not explaining their code
 
4:06 PM
(No, but seriously. Like, are we talking 50.. 100..? Internet points?) :P
 
(OK, that still doesn't narrow it down, but eh)
 
The prize is five quatloos sterling
 
always @cs95 :D also an affinity towards np.where()
 
Hmm, the user search box on my phone actually auto-suggested my guess. With such high stakes, I'm nervous to look now
 
@roganjosh that made my friday eve. :D
 
4:13 PM
Hmm, I wonder why Wikipedia's articles on the size of infinite sets uses an image of Aleph instead of its Unicode character "א". Are they worried it isn't rendered properly by all browsers, or something...?
 
I... think I was wrong. I'll cancel the Jacuzzi order.
 
Maybe the real character is too small. I don't suppose there's a capital aleph that's like ten pixels taller than א?
 
@Kevin On a closely related note, Wikipedia uses images for equations, rather than Latex. Ok, Mathjax slows down pages, especially if they have a lot of equations, but it's a pain when you want to post a Wikipedia equation to a site that does support Latex.
 
I notice that after I paste א into a text box, it puts the cursor on the left of the character instead of the right. I guess "RTL wackiness" is another possible concern
 
@Kevin Nah, Hebrew was invented before capital letters.
 
4:19 PM
@JonClements happy to help =)
 
I thought I vaguely remembered that being the case :-)
 
Yeah, RTL wackiness is a concern. Modern browsers are better at it, but it's still a gamble.
 
How does one textually represent shouting in Hebrew, I wonder?
Without the benefits of all caps, ambiguity abounds
 
@Arne Melon. David's replied (he's the co-chair) - so unless you're in a massive rush for volunteering, it seems he's got availability... otherwise, I can do a few bits and get you up and running...
 
Mind you, the original Latin alphabet also predates upper & lower case distinctions. We have 2 cases in the modern Latin alphabet due to merging the traditional Roman capitals with uncial, sometime in the middle of the 1st millenium AD, IIRC.
 
4:24 PM
Now I'm wondering if "caps = shouting" is a recent invention.
 
@JonClements were we supposed to introduce ourselves? I didn't do that :(
@anky_91 which user are u talkinga bout, I got no clue :(
 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_caps#Association_with_shouting indicates that shouty capitals has roots going back at least to 1856
 
I think it is. Before the Net, you could use boldface in print for shouting. In the early days of the Net, we didn't have markup, so we had to make do with all caps. Or fake markup, like *this*.
 
@DeveshKumarSingh I added you then notified the team after... so... nothing to worry about
 
uh-oh, uncle grumpy is creeping out. stackoverflow.com/questions/56707084/…
 
4:27 PM
@DeveshKumarSingh rhis one: stackoverflow.com/questions/56706139/…
 
And of course, all-caps has a long history of being used for legalese.
 
@anky_91 got it :) and an affinity to output and ex
 
@Kevin That's when things started getting done. We'd never have advanced into the industrial revolution if you couldn't send shouty pigeon mail
 
@DeveshKumarSingh always, as far I have noticed. ;)
 
4:31 PM
You have gained an animal ally. It will assist you in your time of greatest need.
 
@Kevin or the benefits of vowels...
 
Shouting is more important than vowels
GV M CPTLS R GV M DTH
 
From my research it appears you've made your point. You've silenced the room for several minutes.
 
@anky_91 yeah, u watching the match by any chance, england is being pummeled by srilanka
 
@DeveshKumarSingh i am shocked and impressed.. :)
 
4:38 PM
I suspect there's a good pun to be made capitalizing on the second meaning of "capital" as "Involving punishment by death" but I can't finagle the setup into place
 
@anky_91 india has the protege, hopefully he performs the same :)
 
@DeveshKumarSingh definately, men in orange now..;) bdw i just googled google.com/…
:D
 
Well, you also have the megalomania angle for taking over all the capitals of the world.
 
this group teaches me so many things: google.com/… ;)
@roganjosh
 
I bet 20 quatloos that I'll receive revenge down votes within the hour... Kevin, can I borrow some quatloos?
This was supposed to be cute but I just found it freaky
 
4:46 PM
[sitting atop my quatloo horde, I attempt to gather them all more closely to me, but in my frantic scramble a 20q coin rolls out of the pile and comes to a stop at pi's feet]
 
@anky_91 There was a TV series called Black Books about a book shop and the owner just shoves a book into a customer's hand with the line "You'll laugh. You'll cry. It will change your life." I kinda hoped it would be a bigger meme but apparently it isn't :/
 
@roganjosh i relate still :) thanks
 
we started watching Black Books, didn't seem like our thing
 
@piRSquared what are these animals?
 
rays, baby rays
 
4:48 PM
I never really got into it myself, but my housemates at uni used to really like it so I watched some.
 
sting rays
:D
 
@piRSquared why so much hate on ravioli?
 
funny ones :P
ravioli... ha ha ha...:D yes agreed
 
they look like ... things ... that got caught playing with the vacuum seal machine
 
Take comfort in the fact that I think they're the only creature that appears to be smiling as it grows older and suffers the test of time
 
4:51 PM
 
@roganjosh Dylan Moran is a comic genius, but I suspect that Black Books wouldn't do too well in the US. I really like Moran's standup, but I found Black Books a bit patchy, although I did enjoy the interplay between Moran and Bill Bailey.
 
@anky_91 one last nail in the coffin :)
 
@DeveshKumarSingh yes.. but i love Ben Stokes..more than the other team ;) they wouldnt make much difference as you said we have a protege
 
@anky_91 no 1 bowler in the world
 
4:54 PM
and no.1 batsman ;)
 
wim
@DeveshKumarSingh why are you delvoting this dupe?
 
@PM2Ring I actually haven't watched any of his stand-up, I will have to make an effort. I don't think our humour translates well at all in any show that goes over the Atlantic. It seems more of a one-way translation
 
@DeveshKumarSingh
sory 1 msg late :P
 
wim
Having dupes on the site is not necessarily bad, they act as signposts to the best canonical content and help people find the best content by using different search queries.
Good dupes should not be downvote/delvoted, knock it off please!
 
^ I was missing something :P
 
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