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1:00 PM
I mean, just read it.
Why do I get the weakest trolls. ;_;
 
@CatPlusPlus because you make the weakest posts?
 
@CatPlusPlus You made a strategic mistake, you engaged with him
actually, comment systems should have the ability to (visually) mark contributors as “idiot”
 
If I weren't lazy, I'd implement something that's not Disqus.
 
or, because that’s actually a stupid idea, you should just have answered that it was obviously (and obvious) irony, in an impartial tone and leave at that. This would have exposed him completely as the idiot he is, without the need to call it out
I’d actually love to develop an alternative to Disqus without the privacy FUBAR
 
1:04 PM
Fine.
 
@KonradRudolph 'obviously and obvious'?
 
I edited.
 
unfortunately, you wouldn’t get VC for such a project, because you can’t monetise it
 
What's the privacy FUBAR?
 
@thecoshman = it was obvious sarcasm. And it obviously was.
 
1:05 PM
why do you need a VC?
 
yes, the redundant words are redundant
VC, not CV
 
@KonradRudolph silly Germans :P
typo :P
 
well, much as I’d like just writing the service “for free”, running such a service would be expensive, I’d need some way to earn money from it
 
oh, I thought you where on about a comment system that just sits on the users server, rather then some sort of central server
 
Meh, services. I'd write it, release as OS and let people worry about actually running it.
 
1:10 PM
@thecoshman Well, Disqus in fact provides a valuable service, because it allows a comment system to run on a static blog (e.g. GitHub pages). That’s their business model that I want to copy
otherwise commenting systems abound, no need to write another one
 
@KonradRudolph ah
yeah, I thought the comments where still stored on the server, like a dynamic page sort of thing
 
@IntermediateHacker here is a version that 'fixes' the CLS thing by using windows APIs (only 45 lines of nonportable code...) and the header ordering: http://ideone.com/H8Prh
I can't figure out though what your code is trying to achieve, as it does nothing when I use the cursor keys (only difference is a minor change in 'distortions' at the right hand side:
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On closer inspection, I think it is because ^A doesn't quite render the way you are expecting it to.
@IntermediateHacker Changing tile to '*' (instead of 1) made it do something. I can only go to the extreme corners though. I'm assuming this is because any single keypress is being processed many times by GetInput? The screen flickers enormously too, indicating many redraws
@IntermediateHacker There http://ideone.com/R1bWq, I "Fixed" the other issue by tentatively inserting a 100ms sleep at the end of GetInput. That helped.... 60ms was to little. Perhaps you should use something else than 'GetAsyncKeyState' since you want events?
 
Whoa
The hashtag #friskyfriday is a thing? What the f***?
 
@KonradRudolph still a better love story then twilight
 
1:26 PM
@thecoshman Not the point … I get (to some extent #ff) … but to use your Twitter account for serious stuff, being read by colleagues & family and then on friday post nude pictures of yourself? eh …
that’s certainly very self-confident
 
@KonradRudolph :O pics or it didn't happen
 
hehe, from me? Certainly not :p
leppie just retweeted something, wait …
Happy #FriskyFriday @PlayboyMagSA =) http://twitpic.com/a73xyu
(NSFWish, btw)
 
yeah, I can tell from the thumb nail :P I'll save the link for later :D
 
and that’s the first and last time I post this kind of stuff here, so relish the moment
nah, the thumbnail isn’t NSFW, just a woman who hasn’t understood that artificial breast augmentation almost invariably looks weird
(maybe I’m over-interpreting ;))
 
@KonradRudolph Good thing you didn't onebox it, then.
 
1:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus Well, the picture isn’t oneboxed
 
your from man land Europe, you guys are a lot more ... open minded. Uk and Eire are very proodish
 
Oh, there's a link.
 
@thecoshman That’s what I hear all the time but people forget that I’m German ;) We’re almost as bad as the British, except that our girls don’t feel the need to run around in hotpants in winter.
 
@KonradRudolph Make that NFSFW
 
I love that comic
 
1:34 PM
@KonradRudolph ah, I didn't forget you where German, but I didn't think Germans where as prudish as British
 
@Neil Love the comic, hate the art style
 
@KonradRudolph At least it's not sketchy like some comics
 
and British girls cover up WITH hot pants in winter, they're not that stupid
 
@Neil For instance, what the fuck is the orc supposed to have in front of his mouth? Jell-O?
@thecoshman Nah, here in Mainland UK they wear hotpants, full stop.
maybe a tank top if it’s freezing
but no bra, god forbid
(and when I say “here in mainland UK” then my sample is actually restricted to Cambridge …)
 
FYI, I lived in UK until like a year ago, and Ireland is no different
 
1:38 PM
@KonradRudolph His mouth is transparent
He didn't explain why it is that way yet, maybe that's what ogres look like
 
You can always see his teeth, but if you ignore the teeth, you see his mouth
 
anyway, I loved the line where he’s told that his whole clan has been wiped out
 
@KonradRudolph The comic is well-written, that's for sure
Has a lot more depth that I thought it would have initially when I started from the beginning
 
the whole premise is awesome … and yes, it’s incredibly well-written
unfortunately the updates are very sketchy, even though they have picked up as of recently
but I hate the interludes featuring monster stats & character sheets, I never read those
 
1:40 PM
Love minmax.
 
Screw ideone.
They have GCC 4.7.1 and boost 1.50.
 
and Tempts Fate has become a pure money-whoring operation, the puzzles don’t do it for me
 
Yeah, don't very much like the fund-raising comic he does from time to time
Yeah, tempts fate
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Cool, but still a web design from the 1990s
these whole compiler-on-demand service should be built on top of Gist
 
@KonradRudolph ideone's design is great?
 
1:42 PM
> GCC updated to version 4.7.1
 
still no clang though
 
Nice
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Is that a question or sarcasm?
 
@KonradRudolph The "give me a years pay but I won't finish this extra comic even within a year" did it for me, stopped reading a while after.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes oh, does look very nice
 
1:42 PM
It's a text box with a button and a thing to pick languages. And shit around.
 
@KonradRudolph You have to ask?
 
Nuke the shit around and play.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes with emphasis on shit. Why can’t it remember my login credentials?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes that's what I like, it's to the point
 
oh, and why is liveworkspace displaying an extra empty line? Some editors do that, and it annoys the living hell out of me
 
1:44 PM
Use vim to edit.
 
correction, they just don’t delete line numbers for lines that were entered once and then deleted
@RMartinhoFernandes Of course, who the hell ever writes code in online editors?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Sadly just in FF
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Was about to download, noticed I’m using Chrome
 
1:47 PM
@KonradRudolph FYI we don't see what browser you are using
 
@thecoshman Thanks for clarifying!11
 
@KonradRudolph you more then welcome, I will keep an eye out for the manual and send it your way if I find it
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Can't signup or login... Anyone else try?
 
No idea. What advantages do you get by logging in?
 
free emails?
 
1:51 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes I dunno. Make it easier to retrieve own posts? "For registerd users" implies there are benefits
@thecoshman Email is always free (for me)
 
Is what I use too. Some sites smartened up though. For those I use BugMeNot or equivalents
 
But no, it's not working.
@sehe Smartened up how?
Scrapped all of mailinator's hundreds of alternate domains?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes "Remember, with great power outages come great responsibility outages."
WTF?
 
1:54 PM
@Neil you try playing sim city with out any power
 
@RMartinhoFernandes hundreds? Scrapped them nevertheless
 
I haven't yet found a site that I couldn't fool with the five or six alternate domains I know.
 
I think that's about all there is
 
I'm sure there are more, because I keep seeing different ones every time I hit the front page. I just don't bother memorizing them.
 
Should have been "bacon", really
 
2:02 PM
Q: This sounds pretty insecure, what if I want to send important emails with sensitive super-secret information in them to Mailinator?
A: Then you are a stupid-head. That isn't what this is for.
@sehe In any case, you can point any domain's MX record to mailinator and it accepts it.
 
Hmm. I should answer a question or two today.
 
@SamDeHaan how so
 
@sehe I haven't done anything on SO other than sit in chat or do a bit of /review in... a while
 
So?
It's not your job.
 
No, but my all-of-my-self-worth-in-one-place number isn't increasing!
 
2:15 PM
ohi
 
greetings
 
@SamDeHaan Bad rep. Or bed rap. Dunno
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A: Python binding for C++ operator overloading

twsansburyIt is possible with __getattr__ and custom %MethodCode; however, there are a few points to take into consideration: An intermediate type/object needs to be created, as a.x will return an object that provides __getitem__ and __setitem__. Both methods should raise an IndexError when out of bound...

^ looks like a stellar answer to me. Anyone qualified to actually judge that?
 
I'll take a look; mind checking whether this makes sense?
http://stackoverflow.com/a/11472302/567292
 
In polite society when someone says "hi" the correct thing to do is say respond with "hello" or some such statement. My feeling are now hurt. :-)
 
There, feel free to use whatever@spam.tumtumtree.me for mailinator if somehow some site scrapped all the official alternate domains.
 
2:19 PM
grrrrr
 
@sehe stellar answer; upvote into the sky.
 
We finally got some rain here in the desert.
 
Speaking of /review, anybody have an opinion on the beta of the chaaanges?
 
What are you talking about?
 
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Q: New Feature: Community Review Tasks - Now in Beta

Geoff DalgasWe are currently soliciting feedback for an improved version of /review to help with the very important task of maintaining site quality. There are three targeted tasks we have built thus far and will continue to roll out others after we gain confidence these three are working: Low Quality Pos...

 
2:26 PM
@SamDeHaan I like - less annoying UI and there's a skip for "I don't know" on the edit queue at least
 
@Flexo I do love 'I don't know', that's definitely something they did right
Buut I think they went a little too far towards minimalist.
 
@SamDeHaan the old edit queue moved everything around when you voted which was mega annoying
 
I want more buttons, details, etc.
 
I wouldn't mind a way to see the original post when I'm improving edits
 
I would like to see: Upvote/downvote buttons. Close vote counts (can sway my vote if it's a 1-off close or a 4 people just needs me to finish it off). Flag button. See the answers if it's telling me it's a duplicate, so I know if they actually contain different information or not, etc
I just think they went overboard on simplifying it.
 
2:29 PM
I would like to not be ignored. :-)
 
@JimNorton Oh, hi
 
@SamDeHaan Lol
@SamDeHaan How goes it Sam?
 
It goes. We could use your rain up here in Michigan, it's been in the 90s and low 100s for a few weeks.
 
It's raining here too.
 
The weather here in Las Vegas has been in the 110's for a week or so... ugh...
 
2:32 PM
But at least it's probably not 50%+ humidity down there
 
That's true, it's a dry heat..
 
It's all sunny and shit here.
 
I really miss actual thunderstorms and lightening..
 
Oh, those "90s" and "100s" and shit are degrees Fahrenheit. Took me a while to realize you weren't gone full nonsense.
 
Hah
Sorry robot, every now and then I forget that I'm in the Merkin minority here.
 
2:33 PM
Fahrenheit is an incredibly stupid scale.
 
@SamDeHaan You could at least put the word "degrees" there.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes that would make it too easy on you!
@EtiennedeMartel Agreed. Also, inches, feet, yards, miles, etc, etc, etc.
 
Haha, I got my first suspension.
 
It's odd to me that the US still hasn't really adopted the metric system that most of the world has.
@Drise Congrats!!
 
@JimNorton Pride and all.
 
2:36 PM
@JimNorton I wish they would. Every chem lab I've worked in, or every physics lab I've worked in uses metric.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm not sure it's about pride. They do teach it to us in school.. I think it's just so engrained
 
Woah woah woah, the US adopt something the rest of the world does? No way, that's the opposite direction. Everyone else needs to copy us.
 
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Q: I need a solution to solve

mastergooI've a home work and it's hard to solve.. The problem: You must have a rope of a minimum size at which it is possible to connect all cities. The distance between pair of cities is: sqrt(pow(x2 - x1, 2) + pow(y2 - y1,2)). Input, description: Line 1: N (1 ≤ N ≤ 1000) - The number of citi...

Love the title.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I got suspended for telling that dude who wanted to make a bot to "go masturbate into a sock or something"
 
2:37 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about, but well.
 
I was being somewhat funny, but it got flagged apparently.
 
yay! msvc 11 in Visual Studio 10 :-) just /useenv
 
At least you weren't suspended for nonsense.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes He needs a metasolution.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes True.
 
2:38 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Vote for migrate to meta! ...right?
 
@Drise Meh.
 
@Drise Iiif you got suspended, why do you have more than 1 rep?
 
Fun fact: did you know that C++ compilation model sucks hard?
 
@Cicada Stop the presses!
 
@SamDeHaan Suspended from chat.
 
2:39 PM
We all know.
 
@Drise Ahh, gotcha
 
@Cicada ... is that really the best choice of words?
 
@SamDeHaan And it was for an hour too. Isn't the default 30 mins?
 
If I ever get to write that fucking C++ tutorial, I think the first chapter will be about the compilation model. Because I've seen way too many noobs get fucked in the ass with a flaming chainsaw with that.
 
2:40 PM
@Drise Not the default for us Merkins. We get special treatment.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Just don't use those words in it, you'll scare everyone away.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's gotta desensitize you to violence.
 
@EtiennedeMartel there are a lot of things to take in at first with C++
 
@DeadMG I actually found a simple way to create a Direct2D render target for a GDI+ bitmap object, then use my 128-bit bitmap conversion function and upload it to Direct3D 11.
Either way; GDI+ is still necessary
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I think peppering a crapton of swearwords all over the tutorial is a very good idea. Makes it entertaining.
 
2:41 PM
17 hours ago, by Ell
@drise I think you meant to say go masturbate into a raw chickin
It was removed but it started around there.
 
@EtiennedeMartel And scary. Are you sure you have what it takes to write a tutorial?
 
Only problem with Direct2D is transparency doesn't work with GDI+ interop
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Nope.
I have what it takes to swear into a keyboard for a few hours. That's gotta be worth something, right?
 
Thought so. Don't let that stop you though.
 
@EtiennedeMartel as bout as much as php
 
2:44 PM
Still, I think that's why I can't seem to even start. I don't think I can do it alone.
 
you wanna write a basic C++ tutorial?
 
Is that a plead for help?
 
@bamboon Yeah. Something that's good enough to make a newcomer interested in the language, while avoiding all the pitfalls that are commonly found in the garbage that passes as an online C++ tutorial. Not everyone wants to shell out upwards of 50$ for a book.
@RMartinhoFernandes Not yet.
 
Ok. I won't offer it yet then.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ok, you gonna do it old style or Koenig&Moo way?
 
2:47 PM
@bamboon No idea. I still have to write some sort of outline.
But it's going to be C++11 all the way.
 
Assuming previous programming knowledge, or C++ as first language?
 
That's a tough question.
I wouldn't recommend C++ as a first language, so...
 
I'm certain I don't have what it takes to pull off the latter.
 
I think that really only matters on the first 20 pages, where you describe what an int is
 
Yeah, the latter would need tons of proofreading by non programmers. It's so easy to be biaised.
 
2:49 PM
@bamboon But now that's a lecture, not a tutorial.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes true
 
I would imagine it is easier to write assuming they know nothing of programming, rather then trying to decided what level of competency you are expecting the reader to have
 
@EtiennedeMartel I've thought about it before, and I struggle a lot to find common ground I can use to relate to non-programmers. I have trouble thinking without assuming certain concepts.
@thecoshman No, it's not. If you write for a non-programmer, there are lots of taboo words you can't use.
You can't say "type", "variable", "function", "argument", for example.
Those lead to blank stares.
 
You have to define everything.
 
but you know you need to explain everything from first basics, I didn't say it would take less work, just that it is easier to assume they know nothing
 
2:53 PM
What to do when I have two pure inline classes that mutually depend each from another?
 
And it's so easy to take for granted certain concepts.
@Cicada Smelly code.
 
@Cicada Declare them beforehand.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You have to provide explanations for everything should the reader want them. But, on the other hand, you should rely or appeal to intuition as much as possible too. Otherwise, might as well learn Lisp. Or assembly
 
@EtiennedeMartel CUDA.
@RMartinhoFernandes But the implementations are inline?
 
i get the smallest sin(x)/X where x is angle in triangle opposite side X, to be about 25.1. how can one get that mathematically?
 
2:54 PM
Yes.
 
@Cicada it's where the decelerations are that matters
 
zorry, inverse i meant
 
Let's say that's a pun, and not a typo.
 
hence, 'forward deceleration'
 
2:55 PM
@thecoshman backward acceleration
 
@thecoshman in norway we say, it's not the fart that kills, it's the smell. (norwegian "fart" = velocity, norwegian "smell" = bang, crash)
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Hm. I don't see how forward deceleration helps.
 
@CheersandhthAlf :O
 
:)
 
@Cicada just put a class A; class B; towards the top, thus they both exist and an be used when you implement them
 
2:56 PM
class A;
class B;
class A { void f(B); };
class B { void f(A a) { a.f(B()); } };
inline void A::f(B b) { b.f(A()); }
@Cicada Does this help?
 
@thecoshman that's a definition not a declaration
 
see, I had the right idea, just wrong realisation :P
 
Wait im confus now
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So, if I ever manage to get over my lazyassitis, I'll setup a wiki or something and get here to cry for help.
 
Okay, so, it means I have to declare everything before I implement anything?
simple words for simple brain pls
 
@EtiennedeMartel A wiki for it could work rather nicely, as you can just have a page for things like 'function' that can explain for the non-programmers exactly what is meant by the concept of functions, and in particular what it means in C++
 
Oh god - that means I'm gonna #include the .h and .cpp separately
 
@Cicada I don't think...
 
What?
If you want to define them inline, why do you have a .cpp?
 
2:59 PM
I used to #include the .cpp (which is a .inl actually) at the bottom of the .h
 
AFAIK, when dealing with this, the fact they are in-line is a moot point
 

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