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1:00 PM
@geisterfurz007 where are you actually from ?
 
Zoe
Jul 27 at 7:39, by Wietlol
I didnt knew gist-r-punz-007 means ghost fart
 
TIL @geisterfurz007's name in german means:
ghosts fart


geisterfurz007
geisterfurz007
Really?
I didn't even know xDDDDDD

Wietlol
Wietlol
Today, I lost faith in the gesterburns of le Jaba chat.

Gimby
Gimby
@DevTest28 aye, on the island of Java.

geisterfurz007
geisterfurz007
@unknown Are you one of the monkeys that try to type shakespeare? That would explain the mistakes you made in there :P

Zoe
Zoe
@DevTest28 Does it matter? xd
@geisterfurz007 It's only been mentioned like 1000 times earlier

geisterfurz007
geisterfurz007
14:59
 
Zoe
Nov 5 '17 at 17:03, by user7222571
lol geisterfurz means in english ghost fart :D :D :D
Feb 1 '17 at 8:46, by geisterfurz007
It is ghost-fart in english @ItachiUchiha :D
 
@Wietlol Better ping a few more people.
 
Zoe
Jul 27 at 7:11, by Jenna Sloan
@geisterfurz007 You know, people would probably take you more seriously if your name wasn't German for "ghost fart"
Jan 15 at 11:36, by geisterfurz007
@Kanth German for ghost-fart and some random digits
 
1:01 PM
Yes we got it Zö
 
Zoe
... you get the idea
 
No need for more quotes
Or there is need for a cleanup...
 
hhhh so the same discussion took place one year ago
 
It is a recurring scheme
 
Zoe
mhm
 
1:04 PM
@geisterfurz007 dont chage your name foranyone my dude. stay the way you are...(and all that motivationnal talk)
 
re-eh-cuh-ur-rh-sh-í-oh-hn
 
did you know
 
Don't.
 
:D
 
@unknown How can I know if I know, if I don't know what I should know that I know I know?
 
1:06 PM
you don't
so the answer is no.
 
then why you ask?
 
boi
@geisterfurz007 Is the 007 Bond-related, or is there some deeper theory behind it?
 
@Wietlol You know?
@unknown Incredibly deep.
They are random.
Mostly.
 
mkaz
 
1:08 PM
ew
 
Hey Michael o//
 
fix your keyboard layout
 
@Wietlol Took a look in the mirror a almighty red tiger?
 
Did you know that mkaz is German for mkay because some human switched "y" and "z" on our keyboards?
 
Hey @gei! o/
 
1:09 PM
I did know that mkaz sounds like "hmm... cheese" in dutch
 
@Gimby hehe :)
 
Good morning!
 
user8622974
Good morning!
 
Good morning.
 
You ever wear pants that just like, hurt your ballsack?
 
1:12 PM
Nah
 
Being a man is so rough sometimes
 
I wear modest pants.
 
pants?
 
pants.
 
I'm wearing dress pants and they're just huggin my tennis balls a little too snuggly
 
1:13 PM
why are you wearing a dress like pants?
 
Is it acceptable to flag a post for TMI?
 
TMI?
 
Just wondering. xD
 
too much info
 
i suppose
 
1:14 PM
I hope not.
 
but only if it is too much too much info
 
TooManyItems is a Minecraft mod that lets you see all the items of the game at once like a better creative mode
 
feel free to apply recursion
 
Going back to Productions and design decisions... what would be a good way to emulate dynamic typing in Java in Java 10 without reflection or JIT bytecode manipulation?
 
@Michael :(
 
1:15 PM
dont do dynamic typing in Java
just dont
 
They don't call me ball breaker for nothing waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
 
Use a language that is designed for that, I suppose
@ballBreaker lmao that reminds me of the story you told in discord xD
 
@AMDG Errr...don't use Java. xD
 
no, dont use a language designed for dynamic typing
just dont
 
@geisterfurz007 @Wietlol well the more specific thing is... how do you emulate dynamic typing for a type that is only known at the last moment, i.e. initialization?
 
1:17 PM
@Wietlol hides in Javascript
 
Why would you ever want to do that with Java
 
why would you emulate dynamic typing if you know the type?
 
"Why is my tire flat?!" <- Asking the wheel questions!
 
@ballBreaker to create type-safe Production objects generically (pun not intended).
 
@AMDG You would have to do everything with reflection, I suppose.
 
1:17 PM
@Zoe would be proud of me.
 
I mean uh...
 
wait, what?
type-safe ..... dynamic typing
I don't think those words go together
 
"Anonymous instantiation of Production objects by passing the type and the Production's fields in to a single method"
 
@geisterfurz007 get out
 
gnihihihi
Zoe is contagious :D
 
1:20 PM
banned take two
 
takes two
 
Blackjack! I ween.
I mean, Go fish!
 
you wee'd? I hope you did it in the toilet
 
No, I Wiet
 
Honestly though, I'm still confused AMDG
 
1:21 PM
No, u AMDG
 
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 Hm?
 
@ballBreaker better to stay that way
 
two messages up
 
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 Mhm :3
 
Why would you ever want to dynamically type a Production object. Assuming by Production, you mean something used in a production environment
 
Zoe
1:22 PM
@geisterfurz007 XD
 
What indicates that you need more sleep?
You have a method that loads streets and call it loadImages
 
I can see the confusion
 
@ballBreaker You want to make a Production, but the type is only known at the last minute:
 
Is Production something else than what I'm thinking it is?
 
Zoe
Oof
 
1:23 PM
public static <P extends Production> P create(Type<P> type, Token... tokens) { as it were
 
@ballBreaker AMDG's productions are pieces of code
say... expressions or statements
or type declarations
 
XD
 
or functions
 
Ah. So confusing nomenclature
 
> nomenclature
now im confused Wietlol
 
1:24 PM
@ballBreaker No idea how many times I've pasted this link here but... docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se10/html/jls-2.html#jls-2.1
 
> the devising or choosing of names for things, especially in a science or other discipline.
 
> Why are we doing this now?
 
I was quoting the definition of nomenclature
 
Oh btw! I just recently discovered postfix in IntelliJ
That stuff is amazing
 
postfix?
 
1:25 PM
Yeah.
You can write an expression and then .par hit tab and that expression will be wrapped in parenthesis for example
 
ah
yea, that is awesome
 
or myVar.sout and the result is System.out.println(myVar) and that's pretty neat.
 
That is indeed neat
 
I recently implemented sout in Rider, because it doesnt come with a C# equivalent
 
not the most intuitive...
 
1:27 PM
but I cant get the postfix to work
 
I would've never guessed
 
I think you would have guessed
 
Is there a list of the postfix available somewhere?
 
you would just have guessed wrong
 
In the IntelliJ settings @ballBreaker
 
1:27 PM
innnteeresting
 
And you can put your own together ^^
 
myPoo.if myPee.else
would be neato
 
@ballBreaker Settings -> Editor ->Something
 
>.<
 
I need to ask IT to install IntelliJ on my work laptop soonish so I can f0x around with things
 
1:29 PM
mostly associated with "Template"
I watched a stream yesterday of someone moving from Sublime to VSCode
he had some really interesting features that he had put quite high priority on
like...
 
Well perhaps if I explain the logic behind what I'm trying to design, it'll make sense.
 
o/
 
user8622974
\o
 
\o
 
1:30 PM
@AMDG you need to isolate your issues
 
@Wietlol mmm yeah, how so? I have one issue, and it pertains to the design of the API, and the only other way out is not practical
@Wietlol you had suggested that there be Definition objects, and then data objects for the Production. I did that, and it was a mess.
At least, it was too messy how I went about it
 
@ColdFire ey bud
 
@AMDG but your issue is unrelated to your business rules
 
crabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
sup man
 
remove your business code and isolate your issue
 
1:33 PM
yohohohohohohohohohohohooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Just tryin to get some shite sorted out right now at werk
 
I also have been complaining that I could make a builder for each Production, but that means double the classes for each Production, and I have been hoping for a solution that allows the Production class to be the definition and the data holder, and the class name is the identifier for the Parser so I can use instanceof.
Making individual builder classes for each class is starting to look nice.
 
Errrrr... My Jetbrains IDE doesn't mark TODO comments anymore ._.
 
I want to explore the alternatives before finally doing so
 
Can any1 plz prov a little helP?!
It urgent!!
 
@geisterfurz007 Have you tried turning it on and on again?
 
1:35 PM
@geisterfurz007 have you considered uninstalling and installing again?
 
oh yeah baby, right there. Tell me what I need todo. Oh yeaaa
 
@geisterfurz007 provides helP
 
Wörks again. I didn't do anything.
Looks like WietNotSolol helped with his magic.
 
I can haz help plez?
 
plz free itens
br?
pl?
hej
 
1:38 PM
Right, so while you guys think up creative solutions to my design problems, I'm going to eat some raw egg yolks and cook the whites.
Ta ta!
 
Yuck!
Get out of my room!
 
ew
You monster
 
You obviously have to cook the yolks and eat the whites...
Disgusting >.>
 
Yeah, exactly
and suck the soul out of the mother chicken who laid the eggs
 
@ballBreaker "plz free itens". Damn, that gives me a flashback to Diablo 2. "I CAN HAS FREE!?"
 
1:40 PM
@Gimby hahahaha yeah
 
That's backwards
 
Gives me flashbacks to Tibia
and also D2
@AMDG You have to give your soul to the mother chicken as an offering?
blasphemy.
We worship Baphomet as our deity in this room
 
@ballBreaker so how about your fibula
 
@AMDG I never played on that server
 
I really don't find that statement funny
 
1:42 PM
ah my correction, was the name of a city
Which statement?
 
@ballBreaker that one
 
Zoe
noice
 
Oh, it wasn't meant to be funny
I'm a Satanist
 
hm
well, satanists deserve a place in this world too.
 
o.-
 
1:44 PM
Religious freedom for all!
 
ew
 
Hey now, I'm not the one chuggin' back unborn unfertilized chicken s embryos
 
That is not how eggs work.
 
we all eat dead things you ignoramus :P
 
"unfertilized chickens" ?? So that's just a chicken.
 
1:46 PM
lol
 
There we go
Fixed it
 
well
I guess
although it is just an embryo
 
Rubbish.
I forgot the buttons on my dialogue.
 
Yes, my dialogues are also often missing a button. My dialogs as well.
 
the chicken is not alive until fertilization. Welcome to science class, kids :D
 
1:48 PM
Well I might not have buttons but I have a 'u'.
 
When the fertilization happens ?
 
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yeah but the embryo is definitely not fertilised.
 
anyone found a design solution for me yet? if not, you're fired. heh.
 
There can be a fertilized embryo
@AMDG Depends on your definition of alive tbh
You could stipulate that an embryo is alive just as much as a fetus is alive
 
1:56 PM
@ballBreaker an embryo is not alive unless it is fertilized. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life
 
@AMDG heh. I can fire you! Out of the room :P
 
@AMDG I think last time I gave a good design solution
my designs are often on spot
 
Seems more like a philosophy stipulation than anything
 
> The current definition is that organisms are open systems that maintain homeostasis, are composed of cells, have a life cycle, undergo metabolism, can grow, adapt to their environment, respond to stimuli, reproduce and evolve.
 
ahh I see
So a fertilized embryo is not alive
as it can not reproduce nor evolve
Life exists at birth
 
1:57 PM
Well see that's where science fails
Science complements faith
 
So by what I said, I was right
You can't link an article to prove me wrong, then say the article is wrong
Just a heads up
 
If science were complete, the definition of life would be: It has a material soul, an actual soul, or both.
 
being born is dangerous
 
According to you and your beliefs, but according to many others the definition is considered complete
 
99% of people who were born, died
 
1:59 PM
Of course, science does not work with the supernatural. Hence, no scientist working only in the realm of the natural can ever come to a decisive conclusion on the theory of everything.
 
So it's a matter of philosophical debate
 
Alright. Behave little ones :) Gotta leave. Byeeeee o/
 
@Wietlol 100% of people that were born, except for one (possibly), died.
bye @geis
 
@AMDG you were born, you didnt die
 
His statistics refer to the fact that people who were born are still alive
lol
brb
 
2:00 PM
@Wietlol not yet
 
I see a potential flaw
 
I count more than that in this chat room alone @AMDG ;)
 
@AMDG we dont know for sure
99% of the people died
but maybe there is a chance someone wont die
 
well then what are you talking about? This doesn't make any sense.
 
but you never know
I make more sense than the average sensible person
 
2:01 PM
No, we do know. We see that everything in this world is in a constant cycle of life and death; there is nothing in this universe that suggests someone will not die.
If even God died in this world, who could possibly live in this world without dying?
 
#yolo
 
^ more or less
#yolt
Reading about this is quite interesting. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything
I thought about these things in high-school, and the only model that I can conclude that would reconcile General Relativity [GR] and Quantum Field Theory [QFT] is an accurate model of spatial properties. This relates to GR's space-time continuum and the nature of motion and energy as it applies directly to what is perceived as motion.
 
@AMDG but 99% of the people who were born have died
not everyone
@AMDG who said god died?
 
Zoe
Oh no
 
@Zoe XD
@Wietlol if I as a Catholic know and believe that Jesus Christ is God, then we can say that God truly died. However, God cannot die. It is a paradox, but of course anything, even the death of God, is possible with God.
Anyways, ToE!
 
2:17 PM
in Christianity, Death comes from sin, and Jesus never sinned, so Jesus was not allowed to die, Jesus therefor didnt die, but instead was raised to the heavens
iirc
 
Zoe
@AMDG These discussions explodes into NaCl-y discussions really, really quickly
 
@Wietlol yes, denominational sects have distorted this and brought confusion from their own minds on the death of Jesus. Jesus rebuked Peter saying, "Get thee away from me, satan!" Peter told him, "You will not die!" God truly did die, and was resurrected. Death is the privation of life.
@Zoe I mean, I wasn't very well-tempered before... I was intemperate.
 
Zoe
Nothing personal, but that's what happened in.. well, every single discussion I've seen around religions.
 
However, the Protestants all distort this view in saying "well separation of the body and spirit is not death, Hell is death", but Hell is the second death as mentioned in the book of Apocalypse (Revelations).
 
morn
 
user8622974
2:22 PM
morn
 
morn
 
Zoe
morn
 
morn Zö
 
How about dem physics theories, eh? :D
 
@AMDG I'm confused how you know that Jesus Christ is God
I can understand that you believe that
But I can also see that it's going to be a cyclic argument so you don't really need to answer the question, because I don't think any answer you provide will satisfy me. As much as I don't think anything I say will satisfy you :)
Also I'm not actually a Satanist
 
2:27 PM
Isn't Jesus more supposed to be like an incarnation of god? Meaning that with him, just an image of god would've died?
 
But they're a pretty cool religion
 
an instance of god
 
> The Satanic Temple has seven fundamental tenets:

One should strive to act with compassion and empathy towards all creatures in accordance with reason.
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo your own.
Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort s
Basically the most badass religion ever
It seems like the Religion itself was born out of the necessity to have an antithesis to certain aspects of Christianity that were contradictory or hypocritical and without proper logic
 
@ballBreaker evidence suggests He was[,is, and forever will be] God. John 21:25 states: "But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written." Pertaining to the many hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of miracles which He performed.
 
@unknown It's somewhat unclear
 
2:29 PM
God jesus = new Jesus();
 
stop using words with more than 8 lettuce please.
 
@AMDG You can't quote the bible when you're trying to prove something
It's a rule
 
@Michael Yeah pretty much
 
@unknown sowwy :*(
i use smal word!
 
it's smol you illiterate
 
2:31 PM
@Michael public class Jesus implements God
like that?
 
or extends rather
 
@unknown Jesus Christ is the second Person of the Divine Trinity Who became incarnate and assumed human nature without losing His divinity or Godhood and without changing God.
 
Zoe
@Michael throw new ItOnlyGoesDownhillFromHereException()
 
@unknown not extends
 
lol
 
2:32 PM
actually...
 
but i want it to
 
more like God jesus = new God();
 
I once met an engineer that believed the world was 6 thousand years old
 
no
 
an engineer
 
2:32 PM
you can't just create a new god, wtf is wrong with you wietlol
 
ENGINEER
 
@ballBreaker what is wrong with an angineer?
 
Well, I guess they would all be the same instance of the God class ala the trinity.
 
@unknown you think I cant?
 
2:33 PM
this is getting out of hand
 
I agree, I'll stop provoking
It's hard not to though
Kinda bored atm waiting for something to do
 
@ballBreaker there are four tenets there that are erroneous and produce contradictions in themselves.
 
Which?
 
what if we have God god = new God(); as the origin of everything, and GodIncarnation jesus = god.getIncarnation("Jesus", "issa human with like brown hair and stuff"); to get a Jesus?
 
>1. One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
2. The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo your own.
3. Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
4. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
 
Zoe
2:34 PM
@ballBreaker It's easy
you just ignore the users involved :*
There's a nice little button for it :>
 
2:45 PM
1. suggests that my will is greater than everyone else's. This is not so, as charity to our neighbor is what we have been commanded.
2. Suggests that others can offend excluding yourself and that your freedom is limited to this.
3. Suggests that science is the law of belief, suggesting that the natural world governs the supernatural, and place science over faith.
4. Suggests that all is done for the sake of my own glory [nobility in action and thought], and suggests that compassion, wisdom, and justice [actions] are greater than written or spoken word [that actions speak louder than words],
 
lmfao
 
Zoe
I'll just run off to some field somewhere :3
 
I'll say one more thing about the theory of everything before retiring to my daily prayers
 
Yeah I can't discuss this further with you, sorry
@Zoe heh :3 might have to
 
Zoe
@ballBreaker yeah, it's really efficient :*
 
2:50 PM
I hypothesize that space is multi-dimensional. The foundation of space is the earthly sphere and the first tier, and void of anything on its own. The second tier is space-time which occupies the earthly sphere. The third tier is matter which occupies space-time. The second tier encapsulates motion, and matter is the manifestation of change. Anyways, that's all I have to say for now!
 
Zoe
You've said that twice now though
 
What do you mean
 
déjà-vú
There is a glitch in ze matrix.
 
Zoe
6 mins ago, by AMDG
1. suggests that my will is greater than everyone else's. This is not so, as charity to our neighbor is what we have been commanded.
2. Suggests that others can offend excluding yourself and that your freedom is limited to this.
3. Suggests that science is the law of belief, suggesting that the natural world governs the supernatural, and place science over faith.
4. Suggests that all is done for the sake of my own glory [nobility in action and thought], and suggests that compassion, wisdom, and justice [actions] are greater than written or spoken word [that actions speak louder than words],
 
@AMDG The earth is the foundation for the universe?
 
Zoe
2:51 PM
> I'll stop here since we aren't discussing this anymore.
> Anyways, that's all I have to say for now!
Twice.
 
@ballBreaker when I say earthly sphere, I don't mean the earth itself, I mean the sphere which encapsulates the universe, but earth is where humanity lives and dies and is therefore all that is relevant in the material universe.
 
it what?
why is the sun not relevant?
what heresy is this?
 
That isn't the point
 
that is what you said
 
Alien lives don't matter?
#AlienLivesMatter
 
2:54 PM
@ballBreaker I think AMDG doesnt believe in aliens
but I think AMDG does believe in the sun
lets take baby steps here
we are talking to an instance of AMDG
 
Okay
I'm surprised you said earthly sphere by the sounds of it here I was expecting plane
Thought I was time warped back to the 12th century for a minute
 
airplane?
 
It can be understood as "plane", but I specifically said sphere for a reason
 
Zoe
And there it starts again xd
 
It was a flat earth joke
 
2:55 PM
@Zoe sowwy
 
The universe is not infinite, however, you can forever approach the edge of a sphere from the center without ever touching it if we are talking spherical geometry. Like the achilles and turtle paradox.
 
nah, achilles and turtle paradox is very methematical
and easy to solve
 
well anyways...
then you have space-time which encapsulates matter.
 
if the universe is not infinite, you will reach the end if you can go in one direction forever
it being in one lifetime is probably not likely
 
@Wietlol exactly. Just the same as an infinite convergent series can add up to 1 in mathematics, e.g. 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8...
 
2:59 PM
but what if mankind made a spaceship that fuels itself, where humans can reproduce and grow food?
then they can move into that one direction in multiple lifetimes
and reach the edge
except if the universe is infinite
 

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