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12:03 AM
@gre_gor Should I ask for that in a different chat room or should not ask it altogether?
 
@RaviR As to another room, that's really up to the other room. We can't really say what the rules are in other rooms.
 
 
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4:32 AM
I've been submitting close quotes on many off-topic questions in the and tags; if anyone is looking for a good way to spend their close votes, there's a mountain of off-topic votes there
you can ask Queen in a room where she is resident, or just set the close vote queue filter to this tag
I guess the duplicate posts room is a good place to talk to Queen
 
5:05 AM
waffles
 
5:27 AM
This edit by a high rep user seems to created [tag: shipping-method]. Isn't this a useless edit?
Should I mod flag?
 
I think it's completely useless, but not sure how it should be handled
 
I see a pattern from the user... Not sure if a mod needs to get involved though
 
5:49 AM
^accepted answer is useless there :P
 
@SurajRao maybe for a start leave a comment explaining why you rolled back
 
Sure..left a comment.
 
 
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7:51 AM
o/
 
8:10 AM
Morning
 
/o\
 
8:58 AM
\o
 
_/o\_ <-- handstand
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@Lankymart I just commented on that. Going by the answer and responce there I don't think that typo is the problem and therefor not a good close reason.
 
@Lankymart I don't understand that dupe. One is about reading text files using the FileSystemObject, the other is about reading binary files with ADODB.Stream. Seems pretty different to me. Solution is also not applicable.
 
9:24 AM
@ErikvonAsmuth Unfortunately, it's not as simple as that, should have flagged as Not Clear or Too Broad. They may be trying to read the file using FSO doesn't mean they should be, the impression is the file is binary. But it's wholly unclear anyway.
@AndréKool it's a really basic take first 4 chars for the start of a string, just couldn't find a dup that fit it well enough.
 
@Lankymart Ah, I agree with unclear. If they're reading a binary file with FSO.OpenTextfile, then they're lost anyway. Unclear/No MCVE fits better.
 
@AndréKool think I've found a dup that would fit now - stackoverflow.com/a/36864781/692942
@ErikvonAsmuth agreed.
 
9:49 AM
 
@InsaneCat I never knew the FireAlarm was a cat???
 
@InsaneCat What does this message mean? Are you a bot? Imitating a bot?
 
I don't know how to represent this question here :)
 
@InsaneCat "Represent" it how? Are you asking if other people think it's on-topic? Are you asking other people to cast close-votes?
 
@InsaneCat You can see the faq (section How and why do I need to format my cv-pls (and other requests)?)
 
9:56 AM
okies thanx @ErikvonAsmuth yeah @Makyen
 
@InsaneCat If you're asking other people to vote-to-close (strictly speaking for them to evaluate the question wrt. them voting to close), then as @ErikvonAsmuth has stated, there's a format we use in this room which is covered in the FAQ section they linked to.
@InsaneCat However, it's still unclear to me what you are asking people to do. I highly recommend you read the SOCVR FAQ.
 
Excellent, we need more cats in here.
 
Sure @Makyen Thank you
 
10:18 AM
I must say that is really low quality spam.
 
Bebop Drone? Does that play fast-paced Jazz as it flies?
That reminds me, 20th anniversary of Cowboy Bebop in October, time for a rewatch (again) I think...
 
I have never watched that (I think)
 
@AndréKool It's an amazingly good series, watch it as soon as you can. Brilliant soundtrack too
Even 20 years on it holds up so well
 
10:35 AM
 
10:58 AM
Who thinks this question was incorrectly dupehammered? Question seems similar enough but answer completely different, OP states existing answers didn't help. OP ended up posting his answer on the dupe target, but it seems a bit out of place to me.
 
@MichaelDodd I think it's fine, just because the existing answers didn't answer his question doesn't mean that it's not a duplicate, on top of that if the question were re-opened it should just be closed as no longer repro. (not having a working cable? who's that going to help?)
A device being stuck in charge only mode is a tell-tale sign of a bad cable and more a general computing problem
 
@NickA True, cheers for the second opinion
@PatrickHofman Looks like a homework question to me
 
 
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12:16 PM
 
12:27 PM
Interesting... guess that came from stackoverflow.com/questions/51816558/…
the other 3 times it's turned up on SO - it's been fine...
 
@JonClements plenty of earlier reports so it got blacklisted: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/11540?m=45170092#45170092
 
Morning
 
@NickA not sure it's a bad cable. It's those cheap charge-only cables that come with emergency batteries.
 
Afternoon
 
12:33 PM
(well it's not the good cable, agreed)
 
@rene fair 'nuff... false positive or whatever it's called then for this one
 
@JonClements yep, fp it is
 
@rene interesting though - thought that regex you linked to was an attempt at look for it in combination with nutri?
 
12:49 PM
@JonClements I didn't pay attention so I failed that review ;) ... maybe @tripleee can explain what that attempted and why it triggered here
 
Ron
o/
 
Heh, flagged that as spam for a second there, but it's not. Definitely NAA though
 
@rene the keyword is blacklisted, the TP rate is currently 13/16 metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/…
so slightly dubious, do you want it to be demoted to watchlist?
 
It is fine with me.
@tripleee I think @JonClements was more wondering about the regex for that word.
 
1:04 PM
oh all the TPs are for a longer phrase "Konect Nutra Keto" which should trigger on Keto anyway
oh right, that says "if it's followed by 'nutra keto' those are part of the match too but they're optional"
 
@tripleee Sounds like we're trying to open the necronomicon. "klaatu barada nikto"
 
@Machavity tai oppimaan suomea
 
@tripleee that explains it. Maybe one of those words should exist following Konect?
 
No one's going to lose sleep over it folks - so don't worry - just was confused (more than normal) :p
 
I'll put in a block for the .co.za suffix for now, but I'm not clingy, we could simply remove this from the blacklist altogether if it continues to be problematic
 
1:08 PM
@Machavity It doesn't work. I said it multiple times and nothing happended. (I would have discussed it with the bible group next door, but they seem to have moved.)
 
@tripleee the block should be fine. Thanks.
 
@toohonestforthissite you forgot the chant and the ritual parade with a dead dormouse
 
@toohonestforthissite Fonts matter
 
@AndréKool (-!
 
@tripleee cool!
 
1:15 PM
@AndréKool Hey, when life gives you lemons... Or when you sacrifice virgins to summon lemons from hell...
 
@tripleee Actually it was 4 words, starting with "Gort". I also tried the word to end it "Adunda", but also no change. I suppose it's just a fake.
 
@toohonestforthissite hey, I happen to know about this Nigerian expert on magic spells, he has like 40 different WhatsApp numbers ...?
 
@tripleee The one with the recently deceased minister husband?
 
no that's different, this one will cure AIDS and infidelity and ... you name it
 
@tripleee Meh, I'm still waiting for the cheque for my help with their money transfer. "Foul me more than thrice …" and the like. I'm now in negotiations with some elbonian banker which sounds much more promising.
 
1:22 PM
over in Charcoal somebody tried to enroll with the Illuminati (apparently some African variant, not the original Bavarian?) but they dropped the ball when he said he had no money
 
"Dear Sir. My late husband Mr. Glorfindel left me with a difficult programming task. If you will help me finishing it, I can offer you 50 reps straigth to your account. No tax. Please answer me asap, as the bank will otherwise forward it to the state." - I'm still waiting for this opening in a SO question.
 
@toohonestforthissite off topic, should ask on programmers.se
 
@tripleee Yeah, SO is more for rubberducking now.
 
quack?
 
@toohonestforthissite Only on April 1
 
1:26 PM
edit ^
 
@toohonestforthissite Instructions unclear, tried rubberducking with SO, now my laptop is at the bottom of my bath and won't turn on
 
@MichaelDodd Off-topic. Please ask on Super User for hardware issues
 
Stack Overflow -> RubberDuck.SE?
 
@MichaelDodd See the link. (it's more like plush-parroting for me since my last guinea pig passed.)
 
@toohonestforthissite <insert yesterday's conversation about my bizarre sense of humour>
(the joke is I used the laptop as a rubber duck and it didn't end well)
 
1:29 PM
@MichaelDodd Oh, I got it and I sunk more than one book in the tub and pool. I still wonder how my iriver with HDD survived the sauna/wellness sessions. That device was near undestructable.
@MichaelDodd Wouldn't that be lap-topping? (I just hope that term is not on some arcane black list)
 
sigh answer with 3 upvotes that misses every restriction the op placed on the question. Why don't people verify before voting?
 
@toohonestforthissite For me it'd be the dragon on the handle of my mug
 
@NathanOliver Today I will upvote every answer with the word "Lemon" in it without reading anything
 
@MichaelDodd Ok, I give up on that. The only image I can make of it does not really make sense in this context.
 
@toohonestforthissite Don't worry, I'm as lost as you are in this conversation. Let's call it a draw.
 
1:33 PM
@AndréKool Just give me some time to edit my answers … ;-)
 
@AndréKool </shakes fist>
 
(The mug in question. Both a vessel of hot liquid and an inanimate object to discuss my on-topic programming issues with)
 
@MichaelDodd Hmm, That's an … interesting … design. Reminds me I should have breakfast.
 
@tripleee You want to close the firealarm?
 
@AndréKool Some people just want to watch the world burn
 
1:47 PM
@MichaelDodd And some are running around with flamethrowers.
 
2:39 PM
@toohonestforthissite Thats just a repost of their other (on hold) question
 
@AndréKool Perfect, we have a dupe target then :)
 
@MichaelDodd I linked it in a comment (out of close votes for the day)
 
@AndréKool Yeah I cast a dupe close vote pointing at it
 
@AndréKool Hmm, as you mention, you're right. I didn't exactly compare them, just saw some similarities.
@MichaelDodd Nah, both are just crap questions.
 
@toohonestforthissite Problem is they'll stick around because of the upvoted answers on both questions
 
2:45 PM
@MichaelDodd That's the problem. And the usual cucumbers answering.
 
In fact, the original has been completely changed from the original question. Should I roll it back?
 
@MichaelDodd Yes, as it invalidates an existing answer.
I suspect that user is a bit beyond help, sadly
 
@halfer A normal day at SO then
 
@MichaelDodd Yes (a bit late, but I first checked when the answer was posted). (note to self: get comfortable with the timeline)
 
@MichaelDodd I declare in my daft optimism that some folks are not beyond rescue :-)
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2:58 PM
Site moderator: please retract my CV request two lines up
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels RO's can handle that ;)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre meh tom-a-to tom-ah-to, you get my point though :)
 
@NathanOliver thanks... @Hovercraft please don't mod flag for that - I've accepted it but in future - it could well be declined...
 
Scooby Snax: not effective on all moderators
@halfer So... would you say maybe half? :P
 
well, there is that one cat ;)
 
3:06 PM
@Machavity My new name will be 10%
 
Sorry, won't do in the future
 
o/
 
How do I flag the RO's though?
 
I suspect that Stack Overflow would actually allow % in the username too :-)
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels usually you ping the most recent RO or just say "can an RO remove <this item>" or something
maybe @Makyen has something in his head for a user script for ROs that can pick up any mention of "Can an RO..."
 
3:07 PM
@TylerH: ok, thanks. I guess I need to learn how the RO's are
 
Anyone who has an italicized name on the left-hand side of the chat
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis: someone is trying to ping you here, stackoverflow.com/questions/51842828/… - not sure why, as you've not commented as far as I can see.
 
@TylerH: sorry, looks like a rogues gallery to me
 
hehe
 
@halfer meh
 
3:12 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels You can find the ROs who have been most recently active in the room by going to the room info page (link is the "info" link in the right-sidebar just below the tags for the room). The ROs are listed on the left, sorted with the most recently active on the top.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels If you just leave a message like Can an RO please bin this cv-pls <link>
One of us will spot it.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis I've lobbed some rocks on your behalf ;-)
Or on my behalf, not sure which.
 
@Makyen and @NathanOliver, thanks
 
@halfer half and half?
 
@Machavity I always break rocks into halves before throwing.
 
3:16 PM
@NathanOliver That does help significantly and will usually be seen and acted upon. However, without a ping, I've seen such a requests be missed for several hours, from time to time.
 
I should probably swap to tomatoes, much more friendly.
 
@halfer makes for both bludgeoning and slashing damage, good thinking
 
@Makyen Perhaps it's time for an additional RO or two?
 
@TylerH do you have the feeling we're that understaffed?
 
@TylerH It wasn't that there weren't ROs around. It's just that from time-to-time a single like of words gets missed during a periods of high activity.
 
3:26 PM
@rene I have observed many hour-long periods (or longer) during the day where no RO seems to be active or binning completed requests.
 
If there is interest in people looking to become ROs then we can do that whole process.
 
Also I do see on occasion people misusing/abusing the cv-pls process
sometimes I or another person will comment but often times the offending requests are not moved by ROs or addressed.
It is not common, but it is also not something that is a one-off
I guess the latter part of that is up to the discretion of each individual RO, though.
 
is this a "current leadership sucks, let me do it better"? :P
 
@TylerH While there is some automatic checking, a considerable amount of abuse detection relies on people visiting the post. I've intended to add additional checking, but haven't completed it. Sam has bots, which are quite helpful.
 
3:50 PM
@gunr2171 Not at all
:-)
 
@gunr2171 Tyler just wants to make SOCVR great again is all
 
you just hold onto that thought for a half hour or so...
 
user6655984
FYI socvr.org/tour still links to be nice, calling it "be-nice", which is no longer how it's called.
 
@user6655984 I have no idea what you're talking about ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
(just fixed, thanks!)
 
4:14 PM
@gunr2171 Don't you mean he's welcome? :P
 
:D
This room was placed in timeout for 30 seconds; Interruption-block while I copy/paste announcement messages...
SOCVR room meeting coming soon™, here's some information about it:
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We're looking to have the next room meeting this month (Aug 2018). In order to schedule this we need suggested days of the week and times of day the most number of people can attend. Please add your name and times to this github wiki page.
If there are any room meeting topics that should be brought up (or re-discussed) please update the github issues list.
We'll try to have a solid date/time of the meeting by end of Friday.
 
5:01 PM
@gunr2171 (when not in meetings) - that's so gunr :p
 
yep...
 
@PatrickParker too broad will work as well.
waffles
waffles
 
thanks
 
and the puns have begun
 
5:17 PM
It's a critical part of burnination. :-)
 
If someone posts a duplicate of an unanswered question and I answer the original, should I hammer close the new one as a duplicate of the original? I answered the original as it was better overall than the new now duplicate
Note: the OP agrees the answer to the duplicate answers their question
 
@CamiloTerevinto Yes
Dupes are about being signposts to where all the best answers to that question may lie
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5:33 PM
@TylerH Thanks, I seem to remember some meta discussion about hammer closing as duplicates when you answered a question but cannot remember the community's agreement
 
@CamiloTerevinto There are some who voiced concern but the majority IIRC had no issue with conflicts because as a gold-badge holder you are supposed to be a subject matter expert and thus would both 1) know what the (best) answer is, and 2) implicitly, therefore, be able to provide the best answer
 
@CamiloTerevinto Closing to a question you've answered is normally not at all an issue. The issue that's be brought up on Meta is when you appear to be doing it with a motivation of pointing people to your answer, rather than pointing people to the best Q&A. When brought up on Meta, it's usually been something where there's more than one possible dup-target and where there's a pattern of the user choosing question's they have answered without regard to the quality of other potential duplicates.
 
@Makyen Thanks, that does make sense.
 
5:52 PM
@CamiloTerevinto I'd also note that it's normal to be much more familiar with questions questions which you've answered than other possible dup-targets (i.e. you're more likely to select them as a dup-target). As @TylerH mentioned, you, with a gold-badge, are expected to be an expert in the tag and to have answered a large number of questions. For you to not have given answers to questions which are, from time-to-time, used as dup-targets would be unusual, even more so in low-traffic tags.
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plops in and bleps
 
@feelingunwelcome Dang cat answered it...
 
AWS is really finicky :|
I am work on it. Extra nightmares, out for last week.
It isn't a great question but based on what he had originally provided, my answer would have fixed it. And he moved the goal posts and I am now too lazy to find the next problem :3
 
6:15 PM
@Compass Well, it's meh. Will leave it up
@NathanOliver poor Ron :P
 
6:38 PM
@TylerH hallelujah, 'tis a miracle
 
@halfer You get your Christmas miracle in August it seems :-)
 
@TylerH Well, it's certainly only an annual event ;-)
 
6:50 PM
@feelingunwelcome OP has now provided a semblance of an attempt. It's not great, but it's probably not closable
 
7:01 PM
This weekend was fun
I gained weight :|
 
I had a good weekend as well. I watched colorful explosions in the sky
 
I watched Perseides and I went to run ;)
 
7:21 PM
... damnit I'm losing my cool on meta again. I'll make a LMCOMA hat.
 
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Q: No question should be [untagged]

Robert ColumbiaWe currently have two questions, asked within the past year, tagged untagged. "Untagged" seems suspiciously like one of those dread Meta tags that we are not supposed to have on SO. In fact, it's the ultimate meta tag - it tells us literally nothing about the question except that no one could fi...

 
@Feeds false alarm
 
user3956566
how do we decline burninate requests
 
@YvetteColomb Tag with status-declined???
 
user3956566
@FélixGagnon-Grenier yeh it has been known to happen with people on there :)
 
7:32 PM
heh ;)
 
user3956566
@AndréKool is that the actual procedure? It's not a feature- request. I'll have to read the faq
 
user3956566
@FélixGagnon-Grenier hehe. Didn't we cross swords way back when during the election?
 
Pretty sure we did.
possibly before too, I'm quite liberal with sword crossing
 
user3956566
yeh I think so. A misunderstanding. I think of it from time to time, because we get along so well. (well I least we do from my perspective)
 
user3956566
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I'm not known for sword crossing ;) hehe
 
7:35 PM
:+1:
#slackifySoChat
 
user3956566
#socifySoChat
 
@YvetteColomb Or if you can contact Bhargav Rao♦ you could ask him ( enough status-declined burn requests )
 
user3956566
@AndréKool yeh he doesn't seem to be lurking atm. I'm reading the manual.
 
user3956566
@AndréKool yep
 
I wonder if that was the fastest handled burninate-request so far???
 
user3956566
7:39 PM
hehe
 
user3956566
yeh I can get into bur requests like that
 
user3956566
the worst one was godaddy - PSTD
 
user3956566
you know all the flux since the unwelcoming blog? To me it seems the site is pretty good. A lot of people have made a huge effort. Anyone else see that?
 
@YvetteColomb I think I won't be able to answer that untill things have setled down a bit
 
user3956566
8:04 PM
@AndréKool lol sounds like an answer
 
9:48 PM
@YvetteColomb (1) Yes, I think it has been very well handled by SO, Tim Post's work has been great - diplomatically handling the biggest "noes" while reminding everyone that being a bit friendlier isn't a terribly onerous request. (2) for anyone who wishes to close, downvote and delete in a firm way for the benefit of quality, without any unkindness, not much changes.
I've tried to be make my own comments a bit softer too, while not pulling any punches about closing.
 
10:02 PM
 
10:55 PM
@YvetteColomb I have a very private opinion about that. Considering certain recent events, I don#t think I should state it here.Censors have won, If you consider this a success and it made this site great again, well, then yes.
 
11:40 PM
The OP is very confused
 

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