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Hi there, does anybody know how I can comment/inform on a moderator closing a question (of another OP) as duplicate, that is clearly not a duplicate? Also the question marked as the precursor a not valid answer to the question marked as duplicate?
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This question has been flagged as duplicate of NullPointerException and how to fix it: 51815937
While OPs symptom is clearly a NullPointer, the question is focused and informative, and the answer to their question would have been more like: "you are probably comparing Integer or String Wrappers by "==", which cannot work. Use .equals"
 
@TreffnonX post a comment on the question, probably ping whoever marked it as duplicate
 
@tripleee I cannot comment on closed questions :/
 
you can also post a here to request us to vote to reopen
 
@TreffnonX yes, you can, unless it is locked.
in which case appealing for its re-opening is probably a lost case and better discussed on meta because needs to be unlocked first in that case. That needs a mod.
 
Thank you :)
[reopen-pls] 51815937
like this? :)
 
6:46 AM
@TreffnonX Take a look at the FAQ for how to format a request (and other usefull info/rules)
 
@TreffnonX like this: socvr.org/…
 
Thanks again :)
 
Morning
The times when smokey doesn't even have enough room for all the reasons :P
 
Hey @JimGarrison want to take a look at that re-open ^ You hammered it.
 
7:03 AM
@Cerbrus What just happened? Do you have any idea?
We both ran away from that question helter skelter... (rofl)
 
@AndréKool I think this one is the record with "+10 more" reasons, 15 total (metasmoke post). There are several with "+9 more" reasons.
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman We prematurely posted an answer that didn't exactly work.
 
@Cerbrus :)
Now I understood.
 
7:35 AM
Is this question closable as off-site resource request? There is a bounty rewarded answer (which makes me hesitate) and all answers are link only (are they?), it also attracted a spam. stackoverflow.com/q/23951009/5468463
 
I've protected it, at least.
 
Great! :) The other deleted answer was borderline a spam in my opinion but I flagged it as not an answer
 
The answer awarded the bounty is definitely NAA, as it's just a link to another answer. The question is too broad, not really an off-site resource request. It's basically a GMTC.
 
@Vega I'd go with unclear or too broad, but it doesn't inherently sound like a request for off-site resource to me. Frankly, I'm not 100% certain what they are really asking for, but what I think they are asking for is too broad.
 
There :P
 
7:44 AM
Thank you all!
 
The author of the spam on that post, has an other answer which seems to be spammy to me. It doesn't answer to the question. Is it a spam or just NAA?
 
8:05 AM
@Vega Are you talking about this answer ?
 
@ekad My bad, sorry! I forgot to copy the link... I am a little headless. Yes, it's that answer, thank you!
 
@Vega I doubt that's even NAA. I'm not familiar with Xender but the OP referred to it in the question. I believe it's just a bad attempt at answering the question while not properly understanding what's being asked.
 
@Vega Agreed with what @ErikvonAsmuth said above. The question is clearly too broad though.
 
@ErikvonAsmuth @ekad The Op said Xender like, and the answer explains how to actually use Xender
 
8:20 AM
@Vega Yup, that's the while not properly understanding what's being asked part. Any attempt at answering, however bad, is an answer, as I understand it, with the exception of link-only answers.
 
@ErikvonAsmuth I see, thank you very much for the clarifications!
 
8:45 AM
^ that new answer on that question is spam
 
8:56 AM
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9:34 AM
@PearlySpencer please ignore this request as the OP edited the question.
 
@Makyen Nice
 
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@Makyen thanks!
 
@PearlySpencer Tip for the next time: Just say Can a RO please remove this request because... :)
 
9:39 AM
@PearlySpencer np. Another time, to have a request removed, please ping one, or more, of the room owners (ROs) with a link to the request. You can find the ROs who have been most recently active in the room by going to the room info page (link is in the right-sidebar just below the tags for the room). The ROs are listed on the left, sorted with the most recently active on the top. Without a ping such requests can go unfulfilled for hours, or not be seen at all.
 
10:15 AM
lol
 
@PeterHaddad Yes you can blame me again for voting to close a Firebase question (not the downvote this time) :P
 
no it's fine, it is a bad question
 
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@Makyen how can i ping someone from that page?
 
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@AndréKool thanks, sounds more reasonable
 
@PearlySpencer You just did :) (just @username of the person does it, Makyen is on the list)
 
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10:27 AM
@ErikvonAsmuth ah okay, thanks
 
Is this question too broad? It is well specified, but it seems to be "I am not a programmer, please spoon feed".
 
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10:55 AM
Is Stack Overflow potentially biased towards smaller communities? Discuss.
 
11:08 AM
@PearlySpencer Well, it's obviously and clearly biased against the community of regular/dedicated curators, who are continually abused, insulted and second-guessed by the massed brass bands and cannons of deadbeat dumpers.
 
@MikeM. Both answers are VLQ/NAA too
 
I think I'm going to propose a mindreader badge. For all those people who answer/comment with something like: OP probably means/wants... and are correct :P
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@MartinJames my post is about the former, not the latter.
 
11:32 AM
@MichaelDodd Yep. Not surprising. I was hoping we'd get it closed before any answers, but c'est la vie.
 
wow... that was a train wreck :)
 
Nah, that was mild for [android].
 
@SmokeDetector Spam? Seems a bit borderline to me
Nuked instantly either way, I presume that was @JonClements' doing :)
 
^Mindreader candidate #1
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@AndréKool Only if the ones doing that in an answer instantly get the question closed as unclear too, and -100 rep for answering a question that should be closed or something
 
11:51 AM
(someone upvoted the unclear C question above ^, must be the triage or sth :F)
 
@AnttiHaapala Maybe they liked the neck-excercise?
 
12:31 PM
@Steve - Seems okay to me, not too broad.
 
@Steve Is that answer just posted vlq?
Strip out the links you've got nothing
And I don't see anything wrong with Jim Bob, he was a very good frontman for Carter USM ;)
 
Afternoon
 
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@NathanOliver Morning
 
1:37 PM
^ Exceptionally bad question, got closed within 2 minutes but not fast enough apparently, still has an answer
 
@Lankymart Are you sure? That first comment is nonsense, CreateObject is case-insensitive. Not a typo imo, maybe no MCVE.
 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51816054/cypress-programmatic-login-with-jwt

I feel this person is asking their question wrong, but I'm unsure whether to flag it as too broad, comment that they have not shown their research, or something else. Any thoughts?
 
@JoshuaWade It's Too Broad. While it's a better version of "How I do that?", it still wants SO to do the work of researching how they can do the thing they describe. Just don't say something about us "not being a writing service"
 
@Machavity Sounds good, I'll flag it and leave a comment. Thanks!
 
1:52 PM
@Machavity Lemme guess: it's "unwelcoming", "unfriendly" and "unsensitive to the feelings of the asker"? Comments really have become a minefield with the new flag and coc
 
@toohonestforthissite Here you can read up on (one of) the latest minefield :)
 
@toohonestforthissite I don't consider Shog9 to be a coddler and he didn't like those comments
The TL;DR of Shog9's post is "Try to be helpful to the users whenever possible". I can get behind that
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@AndréKool UUff, the commets alone … looks like criticism per-se is now forbidden. That's worse than kindergarten. It was to be expected, though, with snowflakes going to management.
 
I can get behind it as well, as long as it's not used in a way that harms our efforts to keep the site's questions constructive.

I just left a comment on the question. I think I'm being helpful. It's my first comment of the sort so I guess we'll see :)
 
@toohonestforthissite this
 
1:59 PM
@JoshuaWade I think that's just fine. Helps the user see what they did wrong and how to improve
 
@AndréKool I'm very thankful I was told about right and wrong and to think for myself as a child. Cultural differences, I suppose. I also don't think my personal way of life is the best and only and express this by forcing others adopt it - with weapons if I want.
 
@AndréKool Hmm, Yes, but I fighting for the ecosystem is the least coming to mind. Otoh: ever had a discussion with any vegan? (I think we had this and I won't mention juice burgers or steaks)
 
@toohonestforthissite I have no idea what you're talking about
 
@Machavity But he has to follow company guidelines. I know a lot of people who talk 180° different in private about companypolicies than they do in official statements (actually most employees I know do).
 
2:12 PM
@Machavity FOFL Ohh my chuckle muscle is hurting
 
Does anyone know if there is anything on meta about the thanks for flagging box going to the top right corner of the screen?
 
@Machavity :oD That was a good one.
 
@NathanOliver yes there is
 
@AndréKool Yep, just found it
thanks
 
Tell me @MartinJames, how do you really feel?
 
2:20 PM
@MichaelDodd Umm.. like I want to set my Ford main-dealership on fire, (yes, I also have car problems:).
 
@MartinJames Well, at least it's almost the weekend. Oh, wait...
 
@NathanOliver I also posted a feature-request to have it disabled (I got really annoyed with it after a couple times)
 
@MichaelDodd Late homeworker. Maybe the dog ate the notebook.
 
@toohonestforthissite If the dog ate my notebook, I'd be surprised that a) the dog had jaws strong enough to bite through aluminum, and b) that the dog got into my house because I don't have a dog
 
@MichaelDodd Hmm, maybe I should have written "Maybe the dog ate the notebook (pun intended)." Seems like folks here forget about the original meaning ;-)
Or it was one the Wolfenstein dogs.
 
2:27 PM
@toohonestforthissite Oh don't worry I know the meaning, I just have a surreal sense of humour sometimes that doesn't always translate to text :)
 
@MichaelDodd In other words: "no one understandy my jokes"? I know this very well. It becomes worse with two different languages.
 
@toohonestforthissite It's either that or puns, take your pick ;)
 
@MichaelDodd pokes?
 
@toohonestforthissite Yeah it must be hard when you are from a different planet...
 
@ErikvonAsmuth good point, will go back and re-assess.
 
@Shadow Remember that cv-pls requests should be reserved for questions that need extra attention (e.g. ones that are at high risk of getting answers, are NATO, won't likely be closed organically for some reason, etc.). The room is not intended to receive every close-worthy question you see.
 
4:27 PM
@T.J.Crowder "due"
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis - "due"?
(sorry, fairly new to socvr, amazingly)
 
Your comment on that post "All due respect", what respect is due?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis - Heh "All due respect" can be zero. ;-) But hey, a lot of people don't get how important details are when they first start programming. (And many will never get far because they lack the detail-orientation necessary.)
 
@T.J.Crowder who needs detail? Just keep changing the things until it appears to work, surely? :p
 
@JonClements - Heh :-)
 
 
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7:18 PM
@feelingunwelcome IIRC the regex community is OK with such questions
especially considering the two top users both answered it
 
7:33 PM
!!/help
 
@gunr2171 I'm SmokeDetector a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
 
hum, chrome now uses W10 notifications
 
yep. That happened in their latest update
 
which is fine, except now I get a ding every time a new songs starts
thankfully, I just disabled the sound for "notification" in windows
 
7:57 PM
@gunr2171 wow, that's impressive considering I'm still on Windows 7 here!
 
what, that chrome is using a windows OS feature rather than keeping their own?
 
Closure: when people think rules are just advice, accept no substitutes...
 
8:16 PM
@gunr2171 No that I can get Windows 10 notifications on a Windows 7 device (that annoying GWT issue from 2015/2016 notwithstanding)
 
ah
oh, wait. I guess it's just using the W10 notification hooks if you're running W10
It might continue to use it's own notification system if you're not
^ fp, I think just needs an edit
 
8:31 PM
can someone help me with reviewing this edit. stackoverflow.com/review/… I placed a bounty, but without the tags, I don't think anyone concerned can see this question
 
@RaviR there is a separate tab that just shows bountied questions; trust me, it will be very visible
Also, why did you add the tag? There doesn't seem to be any indication that it is about Facebook?
 
the metric is about facebook
I have given the link for facebook q2 slide in the bounty description.
 
@RaviR DAU seems like a generic term, actually
Twitter has the same concern, or Stack Overflow, for example
 
@RaviR Do not request action on a post that you have asked or answered, or for an edit which you have made.
 
 
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@Shadow Next time, tag it so we can hammer it ;)
 

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