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1:00 PM
I mean, I know that the theory is good, loading myself with all this up front will surely pay off...
but that "inability" now, so I guess just do these things and it will come...
it seems...
just keep learning, and yes, I know that practice is #1 thing
@Squirrelkiller - google.com, simple wordpress.com things, like display a list of 200 urls on a sidebar with php - simple
 
But you actually wrote php?
 
now something more like this - prntscr.com/ju1h9k
even though this is just a random example, not the most advanced, this is from this Murach's MySQL book
I read the whole regular-expressions.info with full understanding, not skipping things
 
I feel like you're going the wrong direction. Give me a second.
 
php.net reading, examples there, full understanding - I've been doing something like this
like in depth studying
 
1:02 PM
but this is also not the path to go
 
RUM
THAT IS ALL
 
Jun 4 at 6:31, by Squirrelkiller
General rule of programming still is: Your program is supposed to reflect reality.
 
@Squirrelkiller - yes, this can be what this is
so I would be trying to "optimize the edu path"
 
Ahoy o7
 
@ten5 What are you trying to do?
 
1:03 PM
o7
 
!!CaptainSquirrel2
 
porn niche, link exchange script, pic gallery script, tube script; actually as #1 adult affliate script (like for promoting the xxx sites and getting paid)
 
@ten5 What are you trying to do?!
 
NATS, this is like the "Coca Cola" and there is no "Pepsi" really of this, so create this and sell, the goal
that NATS from TooMuchMedia.com site, adult affiliate program script
admin uploads galleries, sample clips and people promote that, get the stats and get paid
 
1:05 PM
Does anyone know what @ten5 is even saying?
 
porn programming
this is the goal
porn niche programming php/mysql
as the specialization
 
And what was the question?
 
I understand that there is JavaScript, Ajax, jQuery and so on
I am not capable of writing things, so how to get to this, the edu path, the best way
I mean, to understand the php
 
@CaptainSquirrel KIERAN!
I've missed ya!
 
the big picture, the inside vision on how things work
and how to get to that, the best path, fast
 
1:08 PM
Look, you don't specialize in anything. You don't go out and learn a large variety of technology. There is no point in doing any of that. None at all. That's like buying a piano to explore how it works, what snares are in it, how the mechanisms work, what material the keys are, how the tuning works, but never playing it. There's no point to a piano if it never makes music. You are doing exactly that. If you're not building a product, you can do whatever but nothing matters like that.
 
I mean focus on database aspects and program that, practice
 
@ten5 I can live with that
 
@RoelvanUden uhm.. he's trying to sell porn?
 
or figure out $_POST, $_GET, and $_SESSION
any info really could be good, as long as it would be good
porn makes more $$$ in the USA that all other movies combined
 
@ten5 Stop, stop, stop. Just stop. You just go out to build something you want to build and learn about things stopping you from doing what it is you want to do.
 
1:09 PM
hollywood, documentaries, anything; porn earns more $$$, I've heard
 
If you are just about the $$$, go do something else. This is not an easy enough field to get quick bucks.
 
but this does not matter, I am just in this niche since like 8 eyars
 
@ten5 I don't blieve so
 
@RoelvanUden - this can be good too; figure out what is stopping me, and get that out of the way...
@RoelvanUden - I am not about $$$, I am just saying
 
@ten5 That's how you learn.. you set a goal, try to accomplish that, and when you get stuck defeat the problem and move on.
 
1:10 PM
so what can be stopping me?
what may be the biggest things in the way
 
I don't know, did you build your porn site yet?
Have you started?
 
writing in chats instead of coding?
 
@Default - and what could I use to "fuel this coding activity", so to speak
the source of this energy...
type of thing...
YouTube.com videos and other videos, some urls
how to "fuel that"
 
you've received tips for an hour
 
this could be basically the question that I have for here
 
1:12 PM
I'm not going to go there
 
Just stop @ten5. Please. Did you read anything?
Just go build it. Once you hit a snag, figure out the problem, solve it, and continue.
That's all there is to programming. Mystery unraveled.
 
@RoelvanUden - ok
could be that I am just not ready for it yet, more theory and time is needed for me, and I will know when to start...
 
:face_palm:
 
like I would attempt to start now and then it would be 10 days on google.com trying to read about the MySQL / PDO, so it is better to read the best book on these things, I figured
and use it as a reference
 
No. Stop. No more theory.
Just build it.
 
1:14 PM
but also, this is not easy, it takes energy and time
 
@ten5 if you'd started programming along side reading the books, you could have written the next killer app by now.
 
@RoelvanUden - so it will be a month on google.com and reading some of the crap that is there as not everything is good
 
@ten5 if you maintain this attitude, whatever small chance you ever had of being a programmer just dropped to 0%
 
I was thinking good books, good YouTube.com channels (or other sources of videos) - cant go wrong with that
 
@ten5 No! Stop reading shit! Go open your IDE and start working on your app/site/product.
STOP READING CRAP YOU DONT NEED
 
1:15 PM
WRITE SOME FUCKING CODE YOU IDIOT
 
I mean yes it takes time, but it will pay off, it is definitely not a wasted time
 
Arrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! pulls hair
 
I know that practice is the best but for me this will be a month or two on google.com
 
Is this a troll?! Are you a troll?! Can I kick him now
 
ok, thanks, I can astop now
 
1:16 PM
You will never be a programmer.
 
it seems like I need more time
 
Have you considered the performing arts?
A job in retail?
 
damnit
 
Perhaps you could deliver packages?
 
!!giphy michael jackson popcorn
 
How are you at flipping burgers
 
@ten5 Answer me this question. If you want to learn how to play Guitar, how do you approach this?
 
Halp mr @rlemon giphy is gone
 
@RoelvanUden you read a book, obviously
 
@Default :-D
 
1:17 PM
@RoelvanUden read 100 books on playing the guitar over the course of a year and a half.
 
@RoelvanUden - I was actually thinking about learning the piano, for music production
 
@ten5 You don't need to know how to play Piano to produce music.
 
I am a person who would want to learn how to read the notes, then play like 500 songs that I like, modify them, learn more theory on audio
 
4 hours ago, by Squirrelkiller
If you start babbling again and dont even have a hello world, you wont be here for long. Just saying.
 
thinking like this, I VALUE THE THEORY of things
 
1:18 PM
Any opposed to this kick may now speak or forever shut the fuck up.
 
I mean, it does have the value for anyone
 
@Squirrelkiller don't
it's a very slow afternoon
 
@Squirrelkiller ftgfhjnmk,
 
@ten5 Knowing how to read music, how the harmonies work, how to change them, etc, won't allow you to play them.
 
That was my head on the keyboard
 
1:18 PM
Noted
 
If you don't practice how to play the piano, all the theory won't help you do what you want - play.
Same in programming...
 
Same in litterally fucking everything
 
theory is needed, especially in this
programming
 
Nope.
 
if you want to ride a bike - less
programming - more
 
1:19 PM
There's a fucking my little pony episode about this. Even fucking 6 year old children can get their head round this concept with a little nudge from a cartoon horse.
 
but thanks for the info, the info is great
 
Perhaps you should link it, videos may drive him more :-D
 
I dont want to be arguing about other things, also this is not the PHP channel, to begin with and so on
 
@RoelvanUden I'd have no idea how to work out which one it is.
@ten5 all of this is just as relevent to c# tbh
none of this has anything to do with php because you haven't fucking written any.
 
every person can be different too
 
1:21 PM
No
 
Nobody learns anything by not doing it.
 
I may know what I need, in a way
so I do it this way
 
@ten5 write fizzbuzz right now, then.
If you know what you need to know to write php
 
but doing the php.net for like 5 years - No - I know that
ok, thanks again, I am ending, I dont want to bother anymore here
 
When I was 13
I decided I wanted to write a litttle php app for my friends at school to post messages to.
You know what I did? I watched some youtube videos for a bit, coded along with it, read some stack overflow articles.
And do you know what I had by the end of the day?
A little php message board for me and my friends to use at school.
It was terribly insecure, didn't have any interesting features, and it stored all the messages in a long, text file.
But it worked.
And now, 7 years later. I have a paying job writing c#
 
1:24 PM
"Nobody learns anything by not doing it." - this is good, think like piano - cant be reading about it forver, just do it...
so doing it...
start small...
or start with the CRUD part?
the database part
 
Hi
 
practice that
 
@ten5 write some fucking code.
 
Is this chatroom for C#
 
@ten5 Don't practice, do.
 
1:25 PM
@ten5 go write some code over the course of today, and show it to us at 5pm.
 
what else would I practice as things #2, #3, #4, #5 as this can be some concrete and good info
 
@Sagar Yeah.
 
@Sagar yeh. Ignore this person talking about php he's probably gonna be banned soon
 
ohh
I see
 
@Lemonade1947 - this is good or great angle too - think, write something that you could show people to "impress" them
like php coders, I wrote this today...
I will do something better tomorrow, and what this could be...
GREAT ANGLE!!!
 
1:26 PM
It's not about impressing other people - it's about proving ot yourself you can do it.
 
@Lemonade1947 You can run PHP into .Net Core gunnarpeipman.com/net/running-php-applications-on-net-core
 
thinking about something to show to some imaginary people, better and better every day, anything, as long as it works and it is better...
 
And in this case, prove it to us. Because I for one don't believe you can write php.
 
GREAT, THANKS!!! !!! !!!
@Squirrelkiller - this thinking can be good...
 
Ohh he's here. Let's just watch what happens if you put ten5 and J.Doe in a room?
 
1:27 PM
@Squirrelkiller lol
 
I don't think anyone is going to impressed by someone being a programmer. Nobody cares.
 
@ten5 it had nothing to do with impressing anyone. I set myself a goal, then went and did the goal. the end result was shit. But I did it, and learned a great deal along the way.
@RoelvanUden fuck off. It makes women extremely aroused.
 
idea - php competition - something like this does not exist, right?
 
Is this chat room supposed to be for technical discussion ?
 
I mean, this could be set up on the Net and have people do some things...
 
1:28 PM
@ten5 It sure does exist. They're called jams. Look them up.
@Lemonade1947 Which where
 
@Sagar yes. It's not normally like this.
 
like achieve something - least amount of characters, least electrical energy used, the fastest...
 
> General discussions about the c# language, Squirrels, meme archaeology, and the intricacies of English Geography
 
@ten5 Maybe make it work first?
 
like get 10,000 competitors and arrange them from the best to the worst - set up something like this - php programming testing
who is the best, this could be an interesting thing
 
1:29 PM
Making it work first is probably a good idea.
 
This is the strangest interaction I've ever had with someone on the internet.
Which is truly remarkable.
 
a part of me wants to block, another part is intrigued by the tenacity..
 
I mean, this could be still up to the "humanity" to achieve - these are not easy topics overall (from experience)
 
@ten5 Things who can impressing to PHP ppl can be derogatory for C# dev
 
1:31 PM
website programming competition - set it up so you can arrange the competitors from the #1 (the best) to the #10,000
a taks, to create something like this...
 
I bet someone made a video about something like that
 
I once had a drunk programming competion with my friend. Every compile, you had to drink a shot.
 
@Lemonade1947 lol, awesome
 
Hello guys. When I am redirecting to Index from my controller (Myfolder), I am always coming to http://localhost:19111 but I am not comming to http://localhost:19111/Home/Index ... Why? I tried it with several returnings
return RedirectToRoute("Default", new { Controller = "MyFolder", Action = "Index" });
 
something like this does not exist yet, I think
like php competition and people who are the best, that would be like listed on the Net
like php Olympics
ok, thanks, I will stop, nothing to useful from me here
 
1:32 PM
@ten5 this is the most autistic thing I've ever heard.
And I am acctually a diagnosed autistic.
 
thanks for the info again
 
PHP Competition is synonym to paralympics?
 
I am not new though, 7+ years of websites
 
@ten5 clearly none of them had any php on them
 
either way programming is probably like the hardest thing you can do for a living like intelectually (some advanced math/physics too);
so it is not a bad line of work (that we have)
I am still getting there though...
 
1:34 PM
We have a sick burn by J.Doe, let's see if and how he reacts!
 
@SpedoDeLaRossa Can you post to github?
 
@ten5 programing php isn't.
 
but there is a lot that can be achieved, it seems...
 
@Lemonade1947 Wow.
 
@Lemonade1947 - people say things like this about php, so what would I use? for website programming, this Ruby on Rails or Python?
 
1:35 PM
@ten5 look what chatroom you're in
 
I mean Ruby On Rails + JavaScript or Python + JavaScript - this even works this way?
 
@ten5 classic asp obviously
 
@ten5 Are you running PHP in .Net Core?
 
LAMP
centos, apache (I want to learn Nginx too), MySQL, PHP
 
@J.Doe I will try it.
 
1:36 PM
LAMP person
 
Otherwise I will make a question. :)
 
I was also looking into the hardware, like for the datacenter
Dell, HP, Fujitsu, Lenovo
not that I have the money for this, but I started looking
I want to figure these things out
colocation
 
@SpedoDeLaRossa I can help without more information
Just post project
 
@ten5 are you 13 years old?
You seem exactly like I was at 13 years old.
 
@ten5 Do you even remember this is 2018 and not 2006? :-)
 
1:37 PM
@ten5 He is my younger autistic brother, he have 10
 
Oh my god 10 + 5 = 15
 
You had read several programming books at 13? Props.
 
he's 15
 
Dont judge him
 
@Squirrelkiller yes. I didn't have many friends though.
 
1:38 PM
ok, thanks again!!!
some good angles and ideas here that I can use !!!
 
@ten5 there's only one thing you've been told
@ten5 and that's to write some code
 
I've been doing healthy living research for the past 2 years
 
@ten5 you should do some "healthy attitudes to learning a new skill" research
 
For me, no books or tutorial actually helps me, because I have no idea what they talking about.
 
@Squirrelkiller When i was 12 i readed R. Stallman book. After that i started mailing with him by emacs
 
1:40 PM
dont drink alcohol, dont fry things, eat good food (like the basic form what nature has created instead of some human-made things)
there is more to this
 
@nyconing relateable.
 
swimming is good (I want to do like a year to a year and a half course 3 times per week, if I will be able to)
 
@J.Doe I hope this is ironic
 
@Lemonade1947 Nope
 
organic food (vegetables, fruit, meat, diary)
 
1:40 PM
@ten5 Did you learn how to swim from reading books?
 
@Lemonade1947 Programming books?! Because books, yeah. Harry Potter was the shit.
 
@Squirrelkiller I never read harry potter
 
@Lemonade1947 Get out.
 
@Lemonade1947 - swimming is not easy, but it can be magical, I learned that
 
Maybe if harry potter had been a programmer or electrical engineer I'd have read it.
 
1:41 PM
@Lemonade1947 90' magic bro
 
@ten5 ... what.
 
I was in bad shape, 17 hours of swimming and I am like in a primary school again
 
Implementation. Go and try. My first app is media player on AutoPlay-studio. Learns step by step on variable.
 
I spent like 5 years in front of pc, room to kitchen and back lifestyle
 
@nyconing epical!
 
1:42 PM
15ys.o. that time.
 
I was like 60 kg overweight
DONT DO THAT
 
What the fuck is happening in this chatroom today.
I'm so lost.
 
(._.)
 
dont get overweight, do physical activity, eat good food (drinking alcohol not good all together, more or less)
 
I think I need a smoke
 
1:42 PM
!!c#
 
May 5 '16 at 15:17, by BoltClock
THIS ROOM IS OUT OF CONTROL
 
these things are important
 
I am going in the direction of looking at the organic food (but this is $$$ and I am not sure if I can believe in this)
 
@ten5 litterally no one here cares about your lifestyle.
 
1:43 PM
@Lemonade1947 You're as confused as I am.
 
I hope this is ok :) Cannot access Gh
 
Garmin - monitioring the daily activity, Garmin Connect - social website for "active" people
all these are important things
good physical shape, sport
 
confirm
 
dont fry, cook, all these things, consider it
do things the right way - all you eat matters, every single thing
 
HOL' UP A SEC
You can't access github?
 
1:44 PM
sport is healt too - like endorphines and other aspects - like it regulates the pressure in the veins
 
be right back, going to smoke a cigarette @ten5
 
@Lemonade1947 dont smoke, this is like the most stupid thing you can do
 
Approved by Atanvar Coslin...
why are there 2 users who are called squirrels?
 
I was smoking for 7 years
so HEALTHY LIVING - do that!!! start that!!!!
 
Squirrels? Where?
 
1:45 PM
Squirrels? Where?
 
MMH...you
 
@ten5 Please, nobody cares about your veggie life style. It just makes you more annoying.
 
vous
voi
 
good running shoes, specialized/scott/giant/trek/cannondale, swimming, walking; drinking good water; organic food is good, dont fry, good ingredients !!!! good angle with this !!!
 
@RoelvanUden Sama senpai, why you communicating with obvious troll?
 
1:46 PM
Who claims that
 
check out fancy gyms, this can be good
 
I'm fed up with it. Kickaroo next.
 
like people have sex there
 
What killerino?
 
I've been to one to check it out, find out
 
1:47 PM
@Squirrelintraining,@Squirrelkiller,@Squiggle.... is this an community
 
@ten5 Be like you're start smoking when you're on StackOverFlow
 
@Squirrel You're the one who opposed the kick
 
Kicked.
 
@SpedoDeLaRossa Make id nullable
>url: "{controller}/{action}/{id?}",
And after that you can remove from defaults id
@RoelvanUden Dont kick ppl
 
@Squirrelkiller what? I did not!
 
1:48 PM
@J.Doe I sure will, if they are trolling and/or are a general nuisance.
Spouting incoherent garbage does not help.
 
30 mins ago, by Squirrel in training
@Squirrelkiller ftgfhjnmk,
 
@RoelvanUden USH... here it's serious
 
Who was kicked? I went to Mcdonald's for like 5 minutes
 
@Squirrelkiller that doesn'T appose any kicks
 
1:50 PM
@ten5 How can some water be better than other water
 
@Squirrelintraining Only if you include "killer" in your nickname... @Squirrelkiller
 
@ten5 I'm interested
 
@J.Doe What you mean to remove from defaults id? The return statement with "RedirectToRoute" is the correct way?
 
You spoke up, that counts as opposition
 
@J.Doe FYI, i felt temped kicking you for 5 seconds or so as a joke, but i thougt it isn't gouda to abuse POWA
 
1:51 PM
I want to understand it why it is going to "localhost" and not to "localhost/Abcde/Index
 
@Squirrelkiller kek
 
@Squirrelintraining you can't kick "for 5 seconds"
 
@Squirrelkiller did you kick him?
 
@KendallFrey damn
LIAR
 
1:51 PM
Did he just leave of his own valition?
Volition*
 
Of course he did!
 
4 mins ago, by Roel van Uden
Kicked.
 
(#O_O) Really have you kick him?
 
Damn. Before he could tell me about how Gyms where you have sex are a GOOD ANGLE!!!!!
 
@Squirrelkiller remarking that you were doing it #obviously
 
1:52 PM
but but but
Apr 18 at 11:33, by Roel van Uden
Unless anyone has a good reason to allow JDoe's spam/harassment to continue (other than "he's funny"), let's just get rid of him on sight from now on. Thanks lads.
 
@Lemonade1947 aahha :D
 
@Lemonade1947 He misspelled strip club
 
@Squirrelkiller can you change topic to
"General discussions about the c# language, Squirrels, meme archaeology, the intricacies of English Geography, and GOOD ANGLES!!!! "
 
@LeeButler I agree. I also believe in seventeenth chances. But tolerance is really low at that point.
 
I noticed that the intricacies of English gegoraphy was added the other day
I understand that reference
 
1:54 PM
@LeeButler Me too thanks
 
It's easy when you remember that neither Me or Rudi live or work in the shitshow that is Liverpool
 
Lies
 
That's what you were looking for
 
1:57 PM
@LeeButler hey..yes!
 
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