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3:13 AM
@IanKemp Is there some activity on/about this question which isn't obvious from the question page (mentioned somewhere, a rejected edit, proposed dup, etc.)? The last activity shown for this question was 5 years, 6 months ago. That's too old for a cv-pls. While there isn't an explicitly stated limit, cv-pls requests should, generally, be for questions for which the community benefits from them being closed quickly. Please see #11 in the FAQ.
 
4:02 AM
Is this spam? It's more or less a job posting.
 
 
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5:04 AM
@KenWhite That's spam
 
6:21 AM
so... one of the people I close voted tried to track me down in FB and sent angry messages. I need suggestions to rename my profile. Is it better to make developer story private?
Also any recourse I can take as far as SO is concerned?
 
Zoe
@SurajRao there's a meta post on that
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A: Abusive/aggressive users taking it outside of Stack Overflow

Jason CYou could contact the SE team directly if you think there is some action they can take. Regardless: Ignore them; stop responding or otherwise engaging. Use whatever abuse management tools are available to you elsewhere (e.g. blocking / reporting users on twitter, email inbox filters, etc). Keep...

 
@SurajRao You have similar experience as in this meta post: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/268597/….
 
Ok .. I had already reported on FB (a fake profile) it seems to have deleted that message. Nothing much I can do then
so much abuse over a close vote and they say we are not welcoming :(
 
Zoe
^
 
7:06 AM
Morning \o
 
\o Kayess
 
o/ Mr. Fribergo
 
@SurajRao I don't think so, I sent a contact mail to SE when there was a user harassing Brad on twitter... they did respond but the twitter is still there (hence they will not interviene on twitter etc), probably you can flag the user on SE and have mods to suspended them but yeah it may just create more problems outside of SO... The best thing is to ignore...
 
8:10 AM
Is that question about programing? It doesn't look like a good question to me stackoverflow.com/questions/50131053/…
 
9:05 AM
@WiktorStribiżew Please don't use bold formatting, or all caps in your request reasons. We generally don't like being yelled at. You're making a request for us to do something. It's not an order.
 
@Makyen That was not an order, just a very-very-very-very-very-very-very-very- unclear question. :) I have rarely seen SUCH an unclear question.
 
9:21 AM
RO can you please delete my last cv-pls? OP added MCVE
 
@WiktorStribiżew While I can understand your desire to add emphasis to that point, it's probably a good idea for us to not use bold in request reasons, because if we do, then people will start to use it just to get their requests more response. The all-caps just feels like the normal all-caps interpretation of yelling to me, which doesn't really fit with making a request. If I was going to add emphasis, I'd choose italics, as it's a bit less blatant/objectionable.
If I'd wanted to stress the point, I might have gone with "Unclear: I really, really don't understand what they are asking about". Obviously, please don't do this on a regular basis.
 
1 message moved to SOCVR Request Graveyard ninja'd :-)
 
Thanks @Makyen
 
@AlonEitan np. Sorry I didn't see it sooner.
 
9:29 AM
That was soon enough for me :>
Already handled
 
Sam
10:03 AM
 
user3956566
10:20 AM
what close reason would you use on this stackoverflow.com/questions/49921288/…?
 
Sam
@YvetteColomb I'd go with Other > Not a programming question. Or something along the lines of that.
 
user3956566
@Sam yeh, that's what I was thinking. Thanks
 
@YvetteColomb Not related to programming, TB or unclear. It wants to have an algorithm explained. Not sure what it even is about (I think I tend to "unclear" or the first)
 
user3956566
@Olaf thanks, yep I used that reason
 
user3956566
this room is my goto for close reasons and queries :)
 
10:26 AM
@YvetteColomb I always forget your blue now. shrug that saved me a vote:-)
Long time not seen, I hope you're doing fine?
 
user3956566
@Olaf I am thanks. The whole blog blow up has been draining, but for many people (not just me)
 
user3956566
how are you?
 
Ron
o/
Hey @YvetteColomb, good to see you.
 
user3956566
you too @Ron :) how are you?
 
@YvetteColomb Wrt SO: Yeah, the blog thingie is a bit of … unfortunate, as it was to be expected it's used to kick in doors by bad question owners. Otherwise: physically fine, but I struggle to get a new project. Problem is companies here want you to sit on their desw; remote work is still a no-go for most of them, no matter your qualifications for the job.
 
user3956566
10:30 AM
@Olaf shame, yes I'm a fan of remote work
 
Ron
@YvetteColomb Very well, thank you. Working. Daily grind. The usual.
 
user3956566
@Ron yes, didn't you move for work?
 
Ron
I moved 200 km to the north.
 
user3956566
and you settled ok?
 
@YvetteColomb I even had a company where the department leader told me they had no idea where to put me due to restricted space, but the did not want remote work. They also said they just can't find qualified people and really think I'm perfect for the job … need to say more?
 
Ron
10:32 AM
So so, I became an ambassador for dodgy hotels.
 
user3956566
@Ron lol - I know it's prob not funny living like that - it sounded funny how you put it
 
user3956566
@Olaf I hear ya
 
Problem is I just can't work on-site for longer. Sounds stupid, but my grampa guinea pig won't stand frequent traveling or being sent in/out weekly to a care. And I just don't have anyone who can look after him (plus he needs someone talking to him at least once per day).
 
user3956566
pets are important
 
@YvetteColomb Well, I'll let it be if he dies (that's why I didn't get another peer for him after his pal died 9 monts ago). But I don't want to enforce it either (and I'm not really happy to be without them). He's problems with his leg now and can't move much. But he's still there and seems not to suffer (much).
 
user3956566
10:38 AM
:'(
 
@YvetteColomb hi.. no horse pics?
 
Sam
@Yam stats
 
Yam
@Sam I'm currently watching 172 questions.
 
Sam
I should probably add some more interesting numbers to that command...
 
Ron
10:57 AM
Throw in some hashes - git style.
 
user3956566
11:19 AM
@SurajRao erm, you can watch this
 
@YvetteColomb ah yes.. caught it in the tavern :)
 
user3956566
@SurajRao hehe, he looks like a baby deer.. He's a darling - he was trapped from the wild with his mum and they were both underweight. He's going really well.
 
user3956566
I'm sure I think they're more beautiful that other people do..
 
user3956566
Anyway I will say good night
 
Ron
12:26 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels o/
How are things in the states?
 
@Ron: Each day brings new insanity
 
Ron
So business as usual then.
 
Ron
If it's any comfort things are not all roses and smooth sailing here either.
 
@Ron: please remind me of your location
 
Ron
12:36 PM
That would be SE Europe.
 
Ron
Soon to be replaced with Germany.
 
Ron
A possible relocation is on the horizon.
 
Cool, hopefully for a bigger and brighter future
 
Ron
12:39 PM
Hopefully so.
At least there will be some R&D.
Looking forward to that.
 
Ron
Keeps dementia away.
^ Although the OP did provide a MCVE the question is still unclear and possibly too broad.
 
Sam
Morning
 
Ron
o/
 
1:15 PM
@Ron >/dev/null ?
Oh sorry - that's 'redirection', my bad:)
 
Ugh, I decided to update Visual Studio from 15.5.5 to 15.6.7... 2GB update -_-
 
Ron
1:55 PM
@MartinJames Suppress any output ;)
 
@tripleee Docker is programming
 
@Ron Hey, that's where I'm already! I'm not sure we can stand two depressed people here. After all Germans are well know to be very sensitive and awfully happy. Two could flip the situation.
 
Ron
@Olaf I'll make sure to buy you a cup of coffee.
 
@Ron: Seriously: you got a good job then, I hope? (and I wounder where, last time I looked there were no good jobs here)
 
Ron
We will see how the situation develops.
 
2:03 PM
@Ron A beer and a Weisswurst would blend you better into the scenery. Just don't forget your Lederhosn :-P
 
Ron
Beer belongs to my past. So does Delphi.
@Olaf I am not depressed, btw.
@TylerH Sup with you?
@TylerH Keepin' it real?
 
@Ron You are a software developer, so why not? Why should you be any different?
 
Ron
Lol. This guy ;)
@MartinJames Well, when you put it that way...
Perhaps I should switch to QA, that would surely make things better.
 
@Ron I think so... pokes himself Yep, still real
at least, as far as my brain thinks anyway
 
2:30 PM
@Ron Neither am I. I tricked you. If you are not depressed, you will most likely.
 
@Ron lol QA
 
@Ron just become a unit tester
then you get to write test cases and break stuff but won't suffer the reputation of QA
 
^ self answered. Not good enough to reopen
 
2:54 PM
@SurajRao *innocent whistle* we don't moderate meta
 
@TylerH was an FYI not asking to close or vote on anything
sorry if it came off as a rant
 
I know, just saying to be careful about it here :-)
 
Yeah, we really don't want to bring all this up in the room. We can start a dumpster fire chatroom if you want ;)
 
fair enough.. remove the link please
 
3:07 PM
SOCVR: Dumpster fire free for 217 0 days
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So what groundbreaking facebook-killing great new app is everyone going to be developing this weekend?
That's what everyone does on their weekend, right?...
 
o/ to those that were present at the time of me talking about it, my honours dissertation has been completed and submitted, thanks to those that gave advice
 
@NickA I wasn't around I don't think but congrats!
 
Sam
@TylerH chatbots \o/
(maybe)
 
3:10 PM
@Sam Burnaki 2.0?
 
Sam
Closey and co.
 
@TylerH I'm going to do an experiment that involves seeing how much whiskey I can imbibe.
 
@NathanOliver oooh
What proof?
I'm partial to Woodford Reserve
 
Ron
@Olaf Highly unlikely.
@NathanOliver I used to be big in the binge drinking and fighting in pubs realm.
 
I'm going with the scotch verity, either glenlivet or macallan
 
Ron
3:16 PM
0.5 l of Jack Daniels no. 7 used to work for me.
 
... I don't like whiskey, I'm going to a vodka bar tonight instead...
 
@Ron I did the binge drinking. Never the fighting. I'm a happy, nerdy drunk
@NickA nice. I'm partial to ketel one citroen on the rocks
 
Ron
@NathanOliver It was never my fault though ;)
 
sure... ;)
 
Ron
Ruined my career with software development. I could have been big :)
 
3:18 PM
@NathanOliver Hmm, never had it before, I don't normally go out, and I drink LIITs at home, will give it a try!
 
Those are good too. I'll never turn one down
 
@NathanOliver ah, in that case might I recommend Lagavulin? The 16-year single malt
 
Is it peaty? I'm not big fan of the peaty scotches.
 
Ron
Gets ready for his AA meeting.
 
sorry
 
Ron
3:27 PM
^ A joke. Under cc by-sa 3.0 with attribution required. rev 2018.5.4.30297.
 
not sorry then ;)
 
@NathanOliver Yes it is quite peaty
 
Okay, I think I'll pass on that then
 
Bummer. Enjoy your scotch of choice!
 
Ron
Whatever you do, don't drink the cheapo ones.
 
3:31 PM
I will, and May the 4th be with you
 
And also with you
 
wait, that's Lutheranism, not Jediism
 
Ron
A colleague is taking over my desk...
 
What's FGITW?
 
3:40 PM
Fastest Gun In The West
 
Ah, ta
 
a term used for peps trying to answer as quickly as possibly
 
@PetterFriberg I'm closer on the East side of SE than their West
 
Yeah, I'm aware of the saying, never seen it abbreviated like that before though
 
@Adriaan I'm in the suburbs :D
 
3:52 PM
@Yam Not really an improvement. I still smell an XY problem (and now it looks even worse from a security&safety view). How does one have such ideas at all?
 
user177800
@Olaf when you do not know what you do not know you do what you do know not knowing it is incorrect
 
@feelingunwelcome I don't know what you are trying to say. But I assume you mean OP does not knwo what this actualy problem is if you know what I mean, don't know. That happens if people get a project which is miles above their head. Challengesa re good, but they must be solveable. It's like using a politician to install/configure an embedded OS. Or say two adjascent sentences which make sense
 
user177800
4:08 PM
@Olaf you got it!
 
4:45 PM
what is the cv reason for this stackoverflow.com/questions/50179632/…
 
@Compass Offsite Resource
 
5:00 PM
$oof
 
5:15 PM
@feelingunwelcome I have my moments. Even on friday afternoon :-)
 
i got a new battery for my phone
my old one was reporting 40% capacity
 
@Compass Wouldn't it have been cheaper just to put it onto the charger?
 
as in
it has a 1751mah capacity
but was reporting 100% charged, at 800mah capacity :|
 
user177800
@Olaf only on days that end in y in my experience! :-)
 
@feelingunwelcome Which language?
 
user177800
@Compass if a question says "I want a list of" it is RECOMMENDATIONS, if it has a list it is OPINION BASED.
 
user177800
@Olaf you have your moments only on days that end in y.
 
5:43 PM
@feelingunwelcome I got that. I just wnoder in which language. In my native, there is no day ending with y;-)
 
user177800
6:11 PM
@Olaf American ( Southern ) Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. It is a saying where I am from. "I only ???? on days that end in y"
 
@feelingunwelcome Yeah, I assumed that already (I don't think this is different in BE or North American English. But I always thought Sothern American is more like … Spanish or Portugese (yeah, I know you mean the US:-)
 
user177800
@Olaf Those of us from the South speak "english" as a second language! Southern is our native tongue! ;-)
 
@feelingunwelcome Is "southern" that sound as if you roll a hot potatoe (or maybe a steak) in your mouth? I think I heared that once or twice.
 
@feelingunwelcome Jarrod what's up with this new user name? The blog post caught also you of guard?
 
Oooh, Reversal gold badge for my answer on that Updating ToS post on MSE
 
... which is weird since I presume most of the downvotes landed after your answer :P
(gratz anyways)
 
Yeah definitely
 
When someone tags a question as java, tells you its java, and you stare at it, and it's not java =w=
 
It was at like +11 when I answered
@Compass Guess that means you don't know Java :-P
 
6:37 PM
I remember it being, like, 80/-40 or the ballpark of so
 
Kotlin is not java =w=
 
What's the most significant difference?
 
@TylerH Everyone is on the Arbitration warpath. So they protest with arbitrary downvotes
 
@Machavity He he
 
6:38 PM
i dont have a good example
but it is like if you took C++ and decided to remove half the keywords
 
I thought Kotlin was more strict than Java
 
and all the semicolons
 
and just runs on the JVM
 
Can I use jRuby to code for Android?
 
I don't know I have never used kotlin before
it looks like someone took Java and shook down all the wordy bits and said here you go
it reads like java but it is remarkably alien to basically see no semicolons or fields
 
6:40 PM
Thanks for the summary
 
I guess it'd be Java, Shorthand edition!
 
So Kotlin is a Java salad, with markdown dressing?
 
You say NullPointerException, I say undefined method `foo' for nil:NilClass.
 
it reminds me of this
I remember when shorthand was a thing
RIP
back in the old days when people didn't have phones with keyboardds
 
6:44 PM
I don't have a phone with a keyboard
 
You say NullPointerException, I say Tomato
 
does it have a numpad?
TomatoLang - Replace all structures and objects with Tomatos.
 
sounds like something from the Python room
 
sounds like something the PPCG would come up with
 
My favorite esolang is Chef
it does generate valid output, however falls short of the design goals of being "easy to prepare and delicious".
 
6:46 PM
Reminds me of Shakespeare
You are the difference between yourself and a teacup.
Are you nothing? If so, let's go to act II.
 
plops over
 
@Compass Heh. I thought you were talking about the other Chef
 
does it food
if not it is not a good lang
 
@JohnDvorak if($weight < DUCK) $witch = true;
 
while self.bmi() < 30: from kitchen import sandwich
 
6:50 PM
I did tell you all that the dessert I made was amazing, right?
3 ingredients: puff pastry, brie wheel, jam
Thaw puff pastry, apply brie wheel to center of pastry, apply jam on brie wheel, apply puff pastry on top of jam like sandwich, fold into middle to form Alien Chestburster, bake until brown, consume.
 
7:06 PM
Not bad, tsql is really short and the question is pretty simple.
 
@Compass Sounds really interesting, although I'd consider Camembert instead of the Brie. We don't talk about calories, do we?
 
Serves 20
 
Calories are evil. Let's stick to joules, shall we?
 
You just need a wheel of cheese.
Camembert should also work, I used light brie instead of normal brie.
Started off seeming really small
but the puff pastry bloated and ended up being about 25-30cm in diameter
i think I may modify the steps
After applying jam, wrap up inner puff pastry, then place another sheet on top
and wrap in reverse
 
@Compass You know "light" is just a cheat? It's mostly a difference in measuring the fat. Anyway, it's similar to the classic baked camembert: camembert rolled in breadcrumbs, baked/deep fried and add cowbery jam.
 
7:14 PM
yes
but in this case it is a reduction in flavor as well
to get light
flavor isnt as extreme as normal brie as offset for fewer calories
 
@Compass Lower fat is always a reduction in flavour, because most aromatics dissolve not in water, but fat. That's the problem with "light" joghurts for instance: they have to add a bunch of sugar just to make that sh** taste a bit. I prefer 3.8% joghurt therefor (and don't like those ready-made fruit joghurts anymore).
I rather eat less of the good stuff than this sugared and artificially flavoured (another option) "light" crap.
 
thank goodness cheese is not sweet =w=
the jam was OWO
 
Ok, one part was a lie. Figure out which one ;-)
 
also looked like an autopsy when i cut it open
jam everywhere
 
@Compass What was it? Imo cowberries are the best (lingoberries or even cranberries should work I guess, whatever you can get)
@Compass You could apply the jam when eating it. Directly from the fridge, so it will not soak everything.
I think I shouldn't talk to anyone close to me the next days. I might have used a little too much garlic with my pasta.
 
7:27 PM
Blackberry jam
it became a mess because it is a pastry on a bed of melty cheese
 
@Compass Hence apply the jam on the plate when eating. We do this for our cowberry jam. Blackberries would be a bit too sweet for me and I'd miss the slight sour/bitter taste.
 
BUT THEN IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE SOMETHING DIED
 
@Compass Even more! Just more like aeterial blood. More Evil Dead, less The Walking Dead:-þ
And if you want to get it perfect, use both Jams and broken chocolate pieces.
 
7:43 PM
@SmokeDetector This should be flagged NAA
 
only needs one more delete vote
 
He passed away :-(
I love waffles (thanks)
 
@TylerH That is a bummer and you are welcome
 
 
I answered a Java Spring question with actual confidence OwO
usually too terrified to answer spring questions
 
Are you afraid the groundhog might get you if you disagree about when spring will arrive? ;)
 
No, I usually see 1 downvote, get embarrassed, and delete the answer forever =w=
self policing SO member
 
Down vote on your answer or the Q?
 
@Compass Looks good. Luickily I just had a bowl of Linguine with spinach/cream/beef/feta sauce. Otherwise I would have to go to the next shop and try it myself. That seems to be more something for winter days anyway.
 
8:09 PM
on my answer
 
Ah. I can get that. I normally wait for at least -2 as sometimes you just get someone that wants to down vote.
 
8:54 PM
@Compass I see one downvote on my answer and then I log in as my alter ego Shog and ban 12 random users
 
Hi all! o/
 
Have you ever seen Shog and Tyler in the same room? Checkmate atheists!
 
^
 
9:36 PM
Is this off-topic or too broad, or I am wrong? stackoverflow.com/q/1137158/5468463
 
 
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Sam
11:23 PM
 
user177800
11:58 PM
@PetterFriberg well I "feel unwelcome" so full stop, they can put up their magnifying glass, because I have told them how I "feel". Waiting for the blog post making me feel welcome ... again.
 

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