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6:00 PM
we should have a mvp vs mvvm debate sometime
 
that's ok but lot of people have confusion on what goes into view, preseneter or view and viewmodel
the answer to the slack questions users had is to use android view model where you get application context in case you are using mvvm pattern and can be confirmed here medium.com/google-developers/… under the note section
 
6:14 PM
I know I'm supposed to be the Kotlin god here, but I'm really struggling. Any ideas? stackoverflow.com/questions/49225060/…
 
use Java
 
gdi
It is 2018 Dave
 
lmfao dave
 
I mean technically Kotlin is Java so you already are
 
Apr 2 at 17:34, by Dave S
can you close the kotlin tag as a duplicate of java?
never heard of dokka
 
6:19 PM
 
@Raghunandan not presenter. Some separate domain class probably
Inject application context
 
hmmm.
its so hot in the day around 33 degree Celsius. skin burning ( burning sensation).
 
33 is normal where I live
Some days it can reach 40
 
40 is little hard to bare.
any deaths due to sunstroke when it reaches 40 and more?
 
Nope, people are used to it
I mean, they do suffer when it reaches temperatures as high as that (or even a little higher)
But they're usually prepared for that, and got used to it
 
6:33 PM
indiatoday.in/india/telangana/story/…. here in few places deaths do happen especially people who work outside on the field
 
the temperature doesn't drop much, so that's not a problem either
 
we start seeing heat related deaths around 45 C
usually dumb people who don't bring enough water into the desert
 
yeah, 45+ is dangerous
 
> Find a hack. Native is not an option
This is what I just got for suggesting to do things correctly (ง'̀-'́)ง
 
What
why?
 
6:35 PM
hi
 
@Mauker because the wallet is on their side XD
 
45 C is somehow common in summer in my country. TT_TT...we still need to go to work... <.<
 
The wallet is not strong on this one
 
I hate hot weather....
 
45 is not common in here, but it's on some nearby cities
 
6:38 PM
what country?
 
Brazil
But Brazil's a huge country
I live in the NE area
 
yea, but I always thought Brazil is very hot everywhere.....<.<
country of chocolate and coffee :)
 
@Mauker did you win the archery tournament?
 
Apr 11 at 15:23, by Mauker
Got 5th place in state level, and 9th place in the NE area
 
6:48 PM
@ArjunPeter you cannot use chat with 1 rep
 
incoming flag in 3, 2, 1
 
flag
 
@DaveS nope, got 4th
 
I tried to find a flag image but I wanted to get it in before someone else could steal my joke
 
3 points behind 3rd
10 points behind 2nd
 
around 30 points behing 1st
 
flag?
 
@Mauker how many pts did you score, for context?
 
@Afshin Brazil go all the way down to the south
258 points out of 300
at 20 yards
 
ah
 
6:51 PM
guys, I was reading materials design for dilaog boxes and it says don't use a dialog with only 1 button for cancel. dialogs should be closed with back and touch on outside. But if I cannot allow touch on outside for canceling, do you think if it is ok to add cancel button or not?
 
do whatever you want, many dialogs have cancel buttons
 
I think it's okay.
The Material Design guidelines are just that, guidelines.
 
but if cancel is the only action, it makes no sense
 
the cast of not being able to touch offscreen is weird
 
6:52 PM
I agree it is a little weird, but don't bang your head against the desk trying to find a work around.
 
so you can use an X or button or reconsider why you can't touch offscreen
or you can trap your user in dialog hell
I like that option best
 
it's usually better to use 'OK' instead
 
^
 
@DaveS because it is a dialog for fingerprint. if I enable cancel on touch on outside, it will be closed when I want to scan fingerprint.
 
why in a dialog
 
6:53 PM
oh so then cancel isn't the only action, the action is a finger print scan
 
It is better this way, even android SDK converted itself to dialog for andoird O.
When dialog is show, it starts scanning. it will be done when scan is done or someone cancels.
 
how about a full screen dialog with a back button?
 
iirc, samsung pay uses a sliding panel from the bottom
that takes 1/3 of the screen
 
Wait is your fingerprint scanner not on the back of the device?
 
hm....full screen dialog will not be very pleasant on tablet I guess. But that is an option too. I have no problem with back button right now. Just wanted to add a cancel button in exchange of touch on outside cancelation.
 
6:56 PM
Also Android P is bringing a native dialogfragment component IIRC
So definitely don't stress
 
you can provide different UI for tablet
 
yea.
 
dialogfragment is already in sdk btw
 
dialogfragments are awesome
 
yea, I'm using dialogfragment for my dialog.
 
6:57 PM
I use them for all my dialog needs
 
me too dave.
@AdamMc331 a lot of devices uses on screen fingerprint scanners.
Btw, found a new strange bug for TextInputLayout. working to see if I can find a workaround.
 
I didn't think we had any on screen fingerprint phones yet.
TIL
 
46 mins ago, by AdamMc331
It is 2018 Dave
Dave Adam*
 
They're not mainstream
 
lmao dave
afshin true
 
7:09 PM
anyway, thanks for everyone's time and all suggestions :)
 
:)
> Opens notebook: Dear diary, today, room15 actually helped someone. It was a good day.
 
lol
 
lol
 
But in learning android I noticed something: If android want to piss off something, it will not go easy... TT__TT
*someone
 
by android you mean the chatroom?
 
7:17 PM
no
developing android apps...
android OS and its SDKs
 
ok
 
HAPPY BIRTHDAY @RaghavSood
<3
 
oh shit, judgement day is finally here
 
lol
 
mr5
o/
 
7:28 PM
lmao Dave
Update for the room: I've been told no more than 2 weeks for videos. :) Hopefully sooner but that's the high end.
 
mr5
how do I tell AS that an object is guaranteed not to be null?
I have set the result.data to be @Nullable
but I have this ctor defined as:
public PagedResult(@NonNull T data, long totalCount) {
    this.status = Status.SUCCESS;
    this.data = data;
    this.totalCount = totalCount;
    this.errorMessage = null;
}
 
You can suppress the lint warning if you really really want, or if you want to be safe and make AS happy wrap it in a if (thing !-= null) { }
 
Also mr5
 
mr5
@AdamMc331 hmm is there any more elegant way?
 
7:31 PM
I think you can put a nullable annotation right inside the function param but idk which one goes there
I think the elegant way is the null check TBH, but I understand you are aware it can never be non null, so idk
 
@mr5 i guess remove the notation from result.data
 
mr5
@ColdFire but it could be null too. depends on the result return by result.isSuccess()
 
real men do if (obj == null) throw new RuntimeException("I suck") whenever they are sure something won't be null
 
lmao^
 
mr5
I'm thinking there should be an annotation something like, @GuaranteedNotNull(functionNameHere?)
well, I'll just ignore the warning then
@TimCastelijns or assert result.data != null; what you think?
 
7:36 PM
that would also work
 
real men don't assert
they know
 
real mean code Android in C so they can manage their own memory stack
 
wow too real
 
used to be my top scoring tag
 
never answered any C question
maybe i should take a look
 
7:44 PM
don't bother. The tag is full of high rep users who answer every decent question perfectly
 
:(
 
if you wan't rep you need to pay the price of using canary builds and experimental features
basically you volunteer to do painful things so the rest of the world can reap the benefits without compensating you with anything except virtual props
 
^
oh yes my most upvoted answer was on similar lines
never thought that would get so many upvotes but oh well
 
user443346
herro o/
 
yo jordy the unmuted
 
user443346
7:51 PM
i didnt got muted
 
yes that is why i said the unmuted you see
 
user443346
so shouldnt you been greeting everybody that way?
 
good point
 
user443346
@CptEric hahahaha oh man, i had so much fun reading all those extreme replies from the bot
 
7:57 PM
isnt raghav's birthday tomorrow?
why is tristan and mehdi wishing today :/
 
facebook?
in certain timezones it's already the 17th
 
no its on 18th
its already 17th here
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
user image
6
 
@DaveS his birthdate is not there on fb by design
Apr 18 '17 at 8:28, by Raghav Sood
Indeed, it is by design
 
8:04 PM
Apr 18 '17 at 8:23, by Raghav Sood
Birthday was on Sunday :P
which was the 16th in 2017
so today is his birthday
 
Apr 18 '17 at 8:44, by Tim Castelijns
are you trying to say that this information I found on the internet is not correct?
1 year later and nothing has changed here lol
 
lol
 
Would someone really do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
 
mindless banter 24/7
 
Mar 1 at 18:13, by Tim Castelijns
I do agree with dave
 
8:05 PM
Happy Birthday @RaghavSood
well fixed
lmao dave
 
lmao
 
lol something for dave to cheer
Apr 29 '15 at 1:05, by McAdam331
I love you, Dave. No homo.
lmao^
 
8:07 PM
mostly tristan and adam
 
lmao
 
Apr 29 '15 at 1:05, by McAdam331
Dave you're a genius.
 
It's 2018 now though so "Pro Homo"
 
so little ye knew back then
 
Apr 29 '15 at 1:11, by codeMagic
SpongeBob SquarePants
SpongeBob SquarePants
SpongeBob...Square...Pants!
cM got a wire loose that day apparently lol
@DaveS lmao true
 
hahaha
 
I should charge you for all the entertainment I provide
 
68-10 I need to work on that
 
@DaveS XD
 
May 1 '17 at 12:27, by Mehdi B.
Not sure if the netherland would have succeeded if all indians were behaving like Raghav is, with Tim XD
 
8:10 PM
68-11
 
Tim - would justifiable, sometimes I catch myself laughing like some weird dude in a public place XD
 
69 - 11
 
@TimCastelijns lol
 
47 times someone has said "@TimCastelijns xD", 46 of which by mehdi xD
 
8:13 PM
Mar 31 '17 at 15:21, by Cold Fire
he is more cative
 
hahaha
 
and almost all the "@TimCastelijns lol"s are by CF
 
the beginning of a true love story
 
lmao
 
the way Tim presents these data reminds me of the SO survey :D
 
8:14 PM
I'll give my two cents
Almost all the "Adam, plz" was said by me
 
hey its 72 and 96
that is 75% not bad
 
And almost all of the "Mauker, plz" were said by Adam
 
Oct 20 '14 at 15:31, by codeMagic
I answered first, Adam, plz vote up and accept mine
lol cM was the first to use Adam, plz tho
 
Nov 11 '15 at 17:13, by McAdam331
I just love saying Mauker plz all the time.
 
8:15 PM
you lose mauker
 
@TristanWiley please explain what went wrong and what you've tried to solve it.
 
\o Félix
 
yo felix
 
@TristanWiley also have you tried posting your question at starbucks.stackexchange.com ?
 
8:16 PM
lol^ crushed
 
been trying out J today. am discombobulated at the non existence of operator precedence
 
this link was posted most by dave
4
 
J?
 
@ColdFire you could have mad 1 microscopic effort, and copy pasted the "é" from my message :D
 
must be the rick roll link tim
 
@MehdiB. why though?
 
you cold... fire.
 
how is justin doing?
 
Code fire?
 
he's been bad lately
 
8:19 PM
yeah i know
karma got him finally :D
 
after the hype over marijuana, he let people drill a pipeline through the country
I think that's the first real shit I'm angry about
 
for a moment I thought "what does bieber have to do with pipelines"
 
lmao
 
then, you realized that the first justin you think of is bieber.
gg
 
8:22 PM
well he has good music
 
rubs his eyes
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier i think the india trip started his down fall?
 
in the public opinion, I think so
 
so is the liberal media still showering his praise?
 
okay-ly I'd say
 
8:24 PM
i see
lmao i saw a video of him apologizing because his hands just touched 2-3 people in the parliament
that was hilarious
 
oh yeah that "Trudeau manhandles people in the parliament" clusterfuck?
 
yup
 
yeah, that was some stupid shit.
 
that so hilarious man
 
it really made me like him more
I mean, he really did not do that, and the emphasis media put on it was nonsensical
 
8:26 PM
yeah i would have to say that was really some shit
 
ofcourse i saw the video he has done nothing wrong there xD
but meh when he corrected a journalist from mankind to peoplekind
that was all the Political correctness shit i could tolerate lol
 
he did that rly?
 
yup
here
 
woa that's...
 
8:28 PM
it's so intolerant to those of us that don't identify as people
 
yeah, I mean. such non-sensitive.
what about people that identify as bears and shit?
 
true
 
Exactly Eski... Thank you for speaking up... I couldn't find the words...
 
be brave mehdi
 
what type of cultural role you want to fill and the type of people you date is something people should be free to choose, wgaf. Identifying as a different species is just crazy and not really productive to bring up though
 
8:30 PM
I'm tired of your intolerant shit, Dave
 
A joke might have been lost in tcp here
 
udp perhaps
 
lmao
 
I didn't want to read the context so I just hit the broadcast addr with my 2cents
 
8:32 PM
Happy Birthday @RaghavSood :)
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier i hope he loses the next election :)
 
Why do you care? Lol
 
lol why not?
 
Guys
 
and gals
Mauker plz
 
8:36 PM
^
 
And Dave
 
lol
 
do you mean dave is not a guy?
 
and dudettes
Trudeau must win
 
8:37 PM
I mean is something else entirely
He just is
 
Nov 1 '17 at 10:53, by Tim Castelijns
did you just assume possession and gender?
 
nooooooooooooooo felix
 
lmao
 
I'm not your dude, bro
 
Ok, so... Remember that Code Challenge I attended?
 
8:38 PM
no
 
I wouldn't expect you to, CF
 
no it was an archery contest, silly
 
------------^
 
my american dudes
 
8:39 PM
sigh
 
Mauker.carryOn();
 
Was it the indoor or outdoor code challenge?
 
I'll try to make better jokes Mauker
 
lol dave
 
That's what happened
 
8:42 PM
yeah
I reviewed the shit out of that
:muscle:
 
oh yeah they rejected you from what i remember
 
@TimCastelijns And I really appreaciate that
 
with some shit reason
 
Yes, they did
 
8:42 PM
yeah I'll never forget that spaghetti code, I still wake up with night sweats sometimes
3
 
wow the timpingattack
 
@DaveS ಠ_ಠ
 
lol
 
lmfao dave
 
@DaveS I get hungry just looking at it
 
8:43 PM
carry on Mauker
 
this room
 
They... just sent me an email lol
 
lol
 
Talking about that job offer
 
8:44 PM
lol
 
someone tries to say something, 50 messages later people are still joking about it
 
Yeah, I'm going to quote Adam here.
 
Tired of dave's shit?
 
the famous "I'm an idiot"?
 
Oct 23 '17 at 16:52, by AdamMc331
I feel attacked.
 
8:45 PM
lmao i didnt thought of that
 
You lost your keystore?
oh
 
so did you tell them to buzz off or what Mauker?
 
May 12 '17 at 15:10, by eski
did you lose a keystore ahmad?
 
Idk lol
 
8:46 PM
lmao this was savage af^
that reminds me where is Ocus?
 
did they say, sorry we were overly critical and after reviewing over a dozen candidates we realized, you aren't so bad after all?
 
havent seen him online since weeks
 
or maybe no one wanted to work with such a nitpicky team lead
 
"please ask your friends to stop deleting our questions on SO"
 
lol
 
8:47 PM
lol
 
brb
 
this guy knows how to build suspense
 
XD
 
xD
 
@DaveS yeah, sure, that will be +30% of my initial salary expectations
 
8:50 PM
And a new phone
 
one plus 6
 
can't do android dev without a new iphone
 
May 12 '17 at 14:58, by McAdam331
🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃Adam's Keystore🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃‌​🚃🚃🚃
 
Stephen Amell (who plays Green Arrow) tweeted out something negative about Beyonce and someone replied "No one cares about your opinion, Walmart Batman." and I am just dying.
 
8:57 PM
lol
those days adam was still mac
 
what is green arrow?
 
a character
 
the love child of Arrow and Green Lantern?
 
lol no
Green Arrow is a fictional superhero who appears in comic books published by DC Comics. Created by Mort Weisinger and designed by George Papp, he first appeared in More Fun Comics #73 in November 1941. His real name is Oliver Jonas Queen, a wealthy businessman and owner of Queen Industries who is also a well-known celebrity in Star City. Sometimes shown dressed like the character Robin Hood, Green Arrow is an archer who uses his skills to fight crime in his home cities of Star City and Seattle, as well as alongside his fellow superheroes as a member of the Justice League. Though much less frequently...
 

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