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12:03 AM
@tereško yep, that's what I was intending to do if "miracle" did not happen
... which it did.
I am starting to question my sanity. I swear. It did not boot anymore.
 
miracle?
 
well, I am writing here, from the burnt computer.
it booted, rebooted immediately, then restarted
maybe it needed a day off to cool, dunno
 
Only a matter of time.. or was a badly slotted ram stick? :D
 
start by looking a windows internal logs
then run various test
 
will start from the log
 
Wes
12:06 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier that is a sign something is not working properly
 
bottom line is this: it should not have happened and a day "cooling off" should not have mattered
 
Wes
now i think the problem might be the gpu or the psu
overheated or underpowered gpu
i'd buy a more powerful and stable psu
 
it crashed running Rimworld, not Witcher 3
 
you are welcome to indicate me what I could improve or suggest a more resilient / better graded piece
 
Wes
550w?
 
12:09 AM
Waiting till after the holidays to start my computer build, I'll need your help teresko :)
 
hmm .. for some reason I thought I added Seasonic in that build (must have changed it latter)
 
Wes
seems good actually. 550w is not 450w
then i have no idea. can you monitor if the gpu heatsink gets too hot?
 
@tereško hmmm. maybe you did
 
... or you picked something else because it came bundled with a game
@Wes why would Rimworld cause GPU to overheat, when Witcher 3 did not?
 
12:12 AM
witcher 3 at highest everything
the event viewer seems to be on some strange timezone
I can't make sense of the dates
 
GMT?
look at the latest log, it should mention to current boot
you can check the timezone against that
 
Wes
@tereško i did not know that
 
anyway, is 2AM, I am cranky and sleepy
nn
 
nn
@Wes :B
@Wes yeah, I think I'll reinstall open hardware monitor (am open to suggestions if you know of a good monitoring software)
 
Wes
dunno. you are screwed... when a pc is unstable it's hard to understand why
could be anything...
not enough power, overheat, defects of components
 
12:27 AM
I am starting to hope that I was just stupid, and that the computer would have finally booted back if I had just let it open for a longer time
... though I have left it running for a minute or so to no avail, whereas it booted after like, 8 seconds tonight
 
Wes
it's not normal anyway
 
Wes
Perfect texture. https://t.co/EkWxN0UyG8
 
ouch, that head on the floor
that person just might have had a concussion
 
Wes
yeah. at least the hoodie absorbed the impact a little?
 
12:42 AM
That's what you get from working on your health
 
dude stopping to laugh at that is not growing up, it's becoming dead inside
#weHateFun
 
Wes
12:58 AM
:B
 
Wes
1:08 AM
i'm so depressed i can't get anything done
 
@Wes why depressed tho bro?
 
Wes
1:30 AM
because i can't get anything done
every step takes ages.
 
2:13 AM
Evening.
 
Wes
2:54 AM
\o
 
Wes
3:23 AM
i hate programming anyway
 
Laravel has started to drive me nuts, for the simplest of things.
Learning where what code should go, when I know I'd just do a simple join -_-
Where would you put this sort of code? User has pic1 and pic2, in database. When I load auth, I want $user->profile_pic to load pic1 or pic2 whichever is not empty. pic1 and pic2 are related to different tables. so pic1 join table1, pic2, join table2. Whichever has an output becomes user->profile_pic..
Whenever I put it in the user model, the damn thing says "must return a relationship instance.".. F.U..
and I don't want to do a separate query in the controller just for the damn picture.
In view, I can do $user->profile_picture(), works fine, it returns the string, with eager loading, nightmare. Curse this.
 
Sorry. Wish I could help.
 
4:02 AM
Morning
 
4:15 AM
Hello i am strange dr strange.
 
 
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5:32 AM
mornings @Linus
 
 
1 hour later…
user1928251
6:59 AM
hello
 
user1928251
this is my code
 
user1928251
$_SESSION['cart'][$product_id] = array('product_name' => $product_name, 'coin' => $currency, 'price' => $price, 'total_price' => $total_price, 'size' => $size, 'color' => $color, 'quantity' => $quantity);

                    $temp = $_SESSION['cart'];
                    array_push($_SESSION['cart'][$product_id], $temp);
                    //setcookie($the_product_id, $product_name.",".$currency.",".$price.",".$total_price.",".$size.",".$color.",".$quantity, time() + (86400 * 30), "/");
                    header("Location: ".$_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER']);
 
user1928251
the problem is that sets two or three
 
user1928251
$_SESSION['cart'][$product_id]
 
o/
 
user1928251
7:02 AM
why
 
?
 
user1928251
i have section where the code is working
 
user1928251
and another where it doesn't
 
user1928251
can you help me
 
user1928251
?
 
7:04 AM
So what is the problem
 
user1928251
this is the output of the vardump
 
user1928251
where is working
 
user1928251
wait a sec
 
user1928251
while ($row = mysqli_fetch_assoc($select_breadcrumb)) {
            $product_id = $row['product_id'];
            $product_category_id = $row['category_id'];
            $product_subcategory_id = $row['subcategory_id'];
            $product_subsubcategory_id = $row['subsubcategory_id'];
            $product_brand_id = $row['brand_id'];
            $product_name_ro = $row['product_name_ro'];
            $product_name_en = $row['product_name_en'];
            $product_name_fr = $row['product_name_fr'];
 
morning
ping @LeviMorrison
 
user1928251
7:05 AM
if (isset($_POST['add_to_cart'])) {
               if (isset($_POST['select_size']) && isset($_POST['select_color']) && isset($_POST['select_quantity'])) {
                   $size = $_POST['select_size'];
                   $color = $_POST['select_color'];
                   $quantity = $_POST['select_quantity'];


                   if (isset($_GET['lang'])) {
                       $the_lang = mysqli_real_escape_string($connection, $_GET['lang']);

                           if ($the_lang == 'ro') {
 
user1928251
this is the var dump
 
the assertion fails in APPLY_TYPE_PARAMETER because you set op1 to implementing class, not template ...
also, ce@op1 should be ANY
 
Andrei can you please put all this in Pastebin.com
this is getting very messy
 
user1928251
ok
 
you know what's really good for debugging code ??
a debugger :)
 
user1928251
 
user1928251
this is the code that works
 
user1928251
and this is the one that doesn't
 
user1928251
 
This really isnt code this is an array
 
user1928251
ok sow i post the code that works
 
user1928251
7:09 AM
now
 
Can you just put all in 1 pastebin
add some notes saying this is this this doesnt function etc
 
@Tomm what are you talking about ?
 
user1928251
ok
 
user1928251
 
user1928251
this works
 
user1928251
7:11 AM
but this doesn't
 
@JoeWatkins he needs some help over his code and sends all different pastebins with different arrays, i asked him to put all those things in 1 pastebin and add notes saying this is the part that is not working. this is the output i am getting, this is what i expect
 
Random, what's the quote where too much free time makes trouble?
 
user1928251
how do i put them in one paste bin
 
@Tomm whatever, you use debuggers to debug code, that's what they are for ...
 
user1928251
 
user1928251
7:13 AM
i tried debugging but i don't understand where's the problem?
 
k @AndreiClaudiu what output did you expect? What output did you get, and what is wrong with that
Are you getting an error or an output you were not expecting
 
user1928251
i'm getting an unexpected output
 
As i stated above what output did you get and what did you expect
 
user1928251
so i get this
 
user1928251
 
user1928251
7:15 AM
and i'm expecting this
 
user1928251
 
user1928251
in the first example is not setting
 
user1928251
coin
 
user1928251
and i'm getting a weird array
 
user1928251
because i'm not using $_POST?
 
7:17 AM
Try it
You are asking us the question that you are able to answer yourself
 
user1928251
ok stand by ill try now
 
user1928251
sorry
 
appearently you havent tried possible solutions yets if you havent used post
 
user1928251
no i can't use post because add_to_cart
 
user1928251
is a get variable pulled from url
 
user1928251
7:20 AM
so i can't use post
 
user1928251
this is the url
 
user1928251
<a class="btn btn-default add2cart" href="index.php<?php echo $language = isset($_GET['lang']) ? '?lang='.$_GET['lang'] : '' ?><?php echo $the_coin = isset($_GET['coin']) ? isset($_GET['lang']) ? '&coin='.$_GET['coin'] : '?coin='.$_GET['coin'] : '' ?><?php echo $add_to_cart = isset($_GET['lang']) || isset($_GET['coin']) ? '&add_to_cart='.$product_id : '?add_to_cart='.$product_id ?>"><?php echo add_to_cart; ?></a>
 
user1928251
this is a constant <?php echo add_to_cart; ?>
 
that looks wrong
 
user1928251
the link?
 
user1928251
7:23 AM
works fine
 
<?php echo $add_to_cart = isset($_GET['lang'])
<?php echo add_to_cart;
 
My plan was not to comment on that
 
user1928251
oo i really missed that one
 
user1928251
no it's not wrong
 
user1928251
if is set lang or if is set coin echo &add_to_cart
 
user1928251
7:25 AM
else echo ?add_to_cart
 
user1928251
why is wrong
 
&add_to_cart?
Am i missing some php knowledge here
 
@AndreiClaudiu that should be a post. get is for safe and idempotent actions
 
user1928251
yes i cant post questions for now
 
where are the variables $the_coin and $add_to_cart used ? and why would you have a constant with the same case and name as a variable ?
 
user1928251
7:27 AM
the constant it's for translation
 
user1928251
the coin
 
user1928251
here
 
user1928251
if (isset($_GET['coin'])) {
$the_coin = mysqli_real_escape_string($connection, $_GET['coin']);

if ($the_coin == 'ron') {
$price = $product_price_ron;
$currency = 'RON';
} else if ($the_coin == 'dollar') {
$price = $product_price_dollar;
$currency = '$';
} else if ($the_coin == 'euro') {
$price = $product_price_euro;
$currency = '€';
}
} else {
$price = $product_price_ron;
$currency = 'RON';
}
 
This issue is taking too long to fix. Remove all the variables, test 1 at a time.
 
or ... use a debugger ...
I just can't be bothered to deconstruct Array ( [4] => Array ( [product_name] => Pantofi Zara [coin] => RON [price] => 11 [total_price] => 44 [size] => m [color] => black [quantity] => 4 [0] => Array ( [4] => Array ( [product_name] => Pantofi Zara [coin] => RON [price] => 11 [total_price] => 44 [size] => m [color] => black [quantity] => 4 ) ) ) )
 
7:30 AM
agreed.
 
into anything that makes sense, and if I did, I would probably be wrong ...
 
user1928251
that's the array that works
 
you don't need to know exactly where the problem is to find it with a debugger, that is the point of a debugger ...
you set a break in the function that is not behaving, and you step through the code inspecting variables as you go, until you find the statement(s) that are producing the unexpected behaviour, it should take you five minutes ... and won't waste any of my time at all ...
 
user1928251
the problem is where i stated if (isset($_GET['add_to_cart']))
 
/me quits the internet
 
7:36 AM
Lol
 
/me joins @JoeWatkins cause he explained this 3 seconds ago
 
user1928251
i don't use an IDE
 
user1928251
ok i will post a pastebin that works
 
this has nothing to do with your problem but why are you saying if coin is ron currency is ron, and your else is exactly the same
 
user1928251
yes ron it's an option that can be set or used as default
 
user1928251
 
user1928251
 
When code "doesn't work"; Going to stackoverflow, bothering all of your colleagues, de-constructing and re-constructing the code with added var_dump, making noise and flapping your arms all take considerable, prolonged effort: Please, just use a debugger #php
2
and no, no I won't shut up ...
 
@JoeWatkins I dont like the new 240 chars limit
 
280 right?
its awfull
 
it's a bit long ... but still not really long enough for intelligent conversation ... so doesn't really solve any problems ...
 
7:47 AM
or 280…
 
scrolling through my feed seeing 1 word and then 20 lines of blank space. Those people get an instant unfollow
 
@JoeWatkins I never thought of Twitter as a tool for intelligent communication
 
Wes
\o
 
@Gordon me neither, but it's the criticism you hear levelled against the 140 char limit most frequently ...
@Patrick it's not my fault the internet is broken
 
7:51 AM
heh, people that want to chat over twitter should better be using whatsapp
 
Back when I was 10 and i called my friends with the house phone if they wanted to play outside
 
a thing you see a lot is some academic or journalist or whatever saying something semi intelligent, but misunderstood because context is omitted ... and then you hear that journalist or whatever complaining that the limit makes all conversations stupid ...
 
@JoeWatkins so no plans on making it work for phpstorm?
 
@Patrick I had this conversation with someone the other day ... the situation is this, phpstorm really needs phpdbg to implement dbgp, dbgp is the protocol designed by derick (and someone from perl) for remote debugging ... dbgp doesn't cover the feature set of phpdbg ... to make phpstorm work with phpdbg means extending dbgp itself, then extending phpstorm ... this doesn't make much sense to me ...
it doesn't make sense because phpdbg is not a good remote debugger ... xdebug is ...
they are focused on different things, it should probably stay that way ...
we tried, and it just didn't come together, don't see the point in revisiting it, given that doing it properly requires all of the above ...
 
so phpdbg is pretty much useless for 99% of php devs?
 
7:57 AM
where did that number come from ?
 
Hi @SaitamaSama Nice to meet you too. Sorry for late replay.
 
@JoeWatkins if you can't use it from the ide/to debug web stuff (which is what I've read), what's the point?
 
you can't use it inside a web process, but it can debug any code php can execute, obviously ...
 
that's one of the nice things about java… the debugger just works. No need to install something. You just download intellij and when you want to debug, you just configure it and debug.
 
you don't need to use it from an ide, you can use xdebug from an ide, it's really good at it ...
 
8:02 AM
I am always annoyed when I come back to phpstorm and cannot debug because I dont have xdebug installed… and then it's var_dumps all over the place again
 
mornings o/
@Gordon var_dump is the one true debugging method
 
@Gordon why not just install xdebug ?
surely it's not more difficult to install xdebug than it is to start picking code apart, I don't get this at all ...
 
hi
 
@JoeWatkins it's not difficult, but placing var_dumps is simpler
 
@JoeWatkins How about just caring about CLI scripts on the local host?
 
8:09 AM
a thing worth talking about is making phpdbg be able to attach to another process, including one inside web servers ... that's not impossible ...
 
suppose I make a php website for an end user how to make him to do crud easily I have no idead?
 
@kelunik it doesn't change the requirements, it emerged that for phpstorm to work on it, it needs to implement dbgp ...
 
Wes
:(
 
Why does it need to be the same protocol? Wasn't their main concern that there's no separation of program stdio and debugger io?
 
user1928251
hey i really need some help
 
user1928251
8:12 AM
please
 
it emerged from the whole drama ... when we committed a protocol of our own, the shit hit the fan ... the only protocol we can reasonably expect to be able to commit to php-src is one based on dbgp ... in conversations we had since then with phpstorm people, they made it pretty clear they don't really want to invest time in a brand new protocol either but would have done it, if the demand was there ...
 
To install xdebug I need to pecl install or apt-get install and then edit some .ini file before I can configure the debugger. I can place many var_dumps in the time that takes. I know it pays off in the long run. And I prefer a real debugger over var_dumps, just most of the time, a var_dump is the quicker alternative, especially when you only do casual php
 
user1928251
anyone?
 
feels like the quicker alternative, but by your own admission, in the preceding sentence, it is not ...
 
Or how to edit my website database?
 
8:17 AM
@JoeWatkins it depends on project scope and runtime
 
o/
 
so you're setting up a new machine for development, you bother to install an ide, presumably docker, or a web stack of some sort, but omit to include a debugger, one of the most useful tools in programming ... it's your delaying the installation until the last possible moment that makes it seem like a chore, just accept that you need one from the start, and your imagined problems with using a debugger disappear ...
 
@JoeWatkins that's what I am saying. it depends on project scope.
 
no it doesn't, it depends on your scope, you don't setup a new machine for every new project, do you ?
 
8:19 AM
I do.
 
your office must be full of computers
 
Does "a couple of questions" mean "exactly two questions"?
 
@Shafizadeh no. can be more than two
 
@Shafizadeh for me
 
@JoeWatkins new project means new vm
 
8:21 AM
you develop code inside a vm ?
 
@Gordon ah, does "they are a couple" means "they are wife and husband"?
 
@Shafizadeh they dont need to be married. just being together makes them a couple, too
 
!!xkcd words for small sets
 
@JoeWatkins why? of course. A VM mimicking production. Principle of least astonishment and stuff.
 
8:22 AM
@Fabor The title on that is accurate.
 
@Gordon I see. So "they are a couple" cannot be used for 3some relations, right?
 
but wait, we are talking about debugging using an ide, so your vm mimicking production is running a graphical desktop ?
 
@Fabor thx
 
@Gordon Are you actually developing in a vm? Or just running?
 
and you start that ide inside of the vm, you don't deploy to the vm mimicking production ?
 
user1928251
8:23 AM
hello i need some help
 
@JoeWatkins no. the usual setup I had for php over the years was a local IDE with a local repo. The local repo was mounted in the VM over NFS or something, so any code changes are immediately available in the VM. So XDebug in the VM and then remote debugging.
 
sure, but you still setup a machine for development with an ide, and configure it to use xdebug ... sure you have to copy a dso to the vm, but you are already doing a bunch of copying anyway ...
you also have to add a couple of lines of configuration, which presumably you also have to do anyway ...
 
Is anyone has built a website on google here
 
You mean like standing on top of their building?
 
Guys go css chat so i can ask active people questions about css :D
 
8:28 AM
no
 
css is the work of the devil
 
@JoeWatkins I am not sure what we are discussing. I already agreed that for any serious long-term development a debugger is essential. But for casual programming, using var_dumps is fine and often quicker.
 
I am killing myself over this freaking css
 
lol
 
cascading shit show
 
8:28 AM
Who freaking thought of css
 
Anonymous
!!wotd
 
attenuate to weaken or reduce in force, intensity, effect, quantity, or value: to attenuate desire.
 
Css can change everything except for a freaking base value of a range slider
 
@Gordon I must misunderstand what you mean by casual programming ... I take it to mean the kind of code you write locally and maybe post on gist for a colleague ? isn't that just developed locally, don't you just have one setup for that, wouldn't it take two minutes to install a debugger for that kind of development ?
I kinda despair when veteran programmers make the same noises as newbies about how difficult it is to use a debugger, and then say things about var dump being an acceptable alternative ...
 
Anonymous
@Gordon I've never used any debugger and I've been using php for 5 years now. Unless I am missing something, debuggers are not as important as they are hyped up to be.
 
8:35 AM
@samayo You just don't know what you're missing out on :)
 
Wes
they are completely optional, but you are wasting brain cells and time
 
Anonymous
I have never needed it, so that basically means I'm not missing out on anything @MadaraUchiha
 
morning
 
Anonymous
Also, debuggers such as kint() for Drupal are massively important than just var_dump() but for a plain php code, any debugger is a waste of time for me
 
@JoeWatkins yes, but that code usually isn't complex enough to need a debugger. just a var_dump placed strategically.
 
Wes
8:39 AM
@samayo if i had to move a mountain i'd use this although i can do it with this
same difference
and kint whatever that is is not a debugger
 
@samayo I know I haven't used a debugger for a long time when I started with PHP. I had no clue how to use them. They added complexity. But I agree with Joe that they are indispensable for any professional/serious projects.
 
I still don't know how to debug multi threaded projects written in PHP, other than using var_dump or something of that sort
 
I'd argue that your problem in that case is not the debugger but having multi threaded projects written in PHP
 
:B, and another reason why I can't use xdebug is checking Check for supported PHP versions... configure: error: not supported. Need a PHP version >= 5.5.0 and < 7.2.0 (found 7.3.0-dev)
 
Wes
@MadaraUchiha do you know if java has something like myArray.concat(myArray) throwing concurrent modification exception?
arrays, maps, anything...
 
8:55 AM
@JoeWatkins also, my various local php installs are usually reserved for extension hacking nowadays and I dont need xdebug for that
 
@Wes the owl doesn't seem to be giving a fuck
 
@Wes I think List has addAll or something of that sort
 
@Fabor lol
 
Wes
@MadaraUchiha do they throw? i mean x.addAll(x), x.putAll(x)?
 
9:05 AM
No idea, look at the javadocs :x
 
Wes
i am trying to run it. i can't import :B
 
mornin
 
morning
 
Wes
seems it doesn't throw
 
9:08 AM
@SaitamaSama おはようございます :p
@SaitamaSama also, I'm trying to not watch/read these "romance" type of things. Just a matter of preference
 
@AlmaDo oh, it's alright :-)
 
Wes
\o
 
9:26 AM
!!en おはようございます
 
Good morning (translated from Japanese)
 
All that?! Is just "Good morning"? Uhmmmmmph
 
@IROEGBU all that? It's less charactersthan good morning ^^
 
lol
 
Way more strokes!
 
9:31 AM
I bought tickets for GnR
 
Anonymous
morhafnaid
 
posted on November 15, 2017

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
Anonymous
!!wotd
 
attenuate to weaken or reduce in force, intensity, effect, quantity, or value: to attenuate desire.
 
comes naturally with age
 
9:37 AM
moin
 
@IROEGBU you can just say おはよう
I used the polite form..
 
teach me japanese
how do i tell my friend he is a trap
 
And please tell me how can I tell "I don't know Japanese in Japanese" ?
 
hm..
nihongonahamasemasen :p
(E_TOO_LAZY_TO_TYPE_IN_HIRAGANA)
 
9:43 AM
That is
I do not have a japanese name
 
@Fabor I did... it was ok.
 
WTf a reply from April 2016
 
:-)
 
10:03 AM
There is an English verb which sounds like "noshiate". Does anybody what's that?
 
Wes
@Shafizadeh more context needed
my guess is: no shit?
 
nope ... it's a verb
> We should noshiate it ..
 
Wes
initiate it?
 
negotiate it?
 
Wes
that's it. pronounces like that
not same amount of syllabes @pmmaga :B
 
10:07 AM
they may be speaking really fast :x
 
@pmmaga that's it .. thx
 
Wes
dang
 
hahaha :P
 
 
Wes
@DaveRandom happy birthday
 
10:14 AM
bah humbug
 
@DaveRandom that's a bar in soho
or at least it used to be twenty years ago when I was there
 
it's OK, we can be old together
 
<3
random trivia: "grow old with me" was a cheat code in some c64 game. I cannot remember which, but I felt it was an impressive phrase to say
 
thoblivionisathand
 
!!jp I don't know Japanese
 
10:22 AM
Nippon wakarimassen
 
anyways @Fabor did you watch Shirobako?
 
Is Jeeves dead?
!!uptime
 
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a little
 
Command 'jp' is now mapped to Translate # magic
 
10:23 AM
@IROEGBU s/ja/jp
 
@IROEGBU Sorry, I don't speak jp
 
huh
 
!!command unmap jp
 
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10:26 AM
@IROEGBU Microsoft is weird
 
css is weird
 
We've heard, a million times.
 
css is pissing me off
 
@SaitamaSama It's actually ja everywhere
ISO 639-1:2002, Codes for the representation of names of languages — Part 1: Alpha-2 code, is the first part of the ISO 639 series of international standards for language codes. Part 1 covers the registration of two-letter codes. There are 184 two-letter codes registered as of October 2015. The registered codes cover the world's major languages. These codes are a useful international and formal, shorthand for indicating languages. For example: Armenian is represented by hy (from the endonym հայերէն, Hayeren) Chinese is represented by zh (from the endonym 中文, Zhōngwén) Czech is represented by cs...
 
ahh... Japanese... hm
 
10:39 AM
what's with all the japanese in here lately?
 
Anonymous
nerds
 
Japanese ftw!
 
the only japanese word I know is Mahobin. The syllables ma/ho/bin literally mean daemonic magic bottle. The entire compound means thermos jug.
 
meh, you surely know ohayou or something as well
for the sole reason of it being used so much in animes
 
I know Ohai, but not ohayu
also sayonara, sakura and konichi-wa
 
10:46 AM
it basically is the casual version of 'morning'
 
and yojinbo for reasons I dont wanna explain further
 
@Gordon it's "ohayou" actually..
but here almost no one types "morning". it's usually "mronongiings"
so I let that "Ohai" slide :p
 
Wes
@NikiC any idea about the approach i should take here? github.com/Netmosfera/Atom/issues/6
 
10:59 AM
hi guys, i'm trying to optimise my PHP settings for a production server, can someone point me to a good resource? i'm using PHP 7.1
 

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