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jrh
12:00 AM
Hypothetically if I were able to edit directly I'd consider making it not a nearly link only answer, but suggesting that would probably get me a "deviates too far from original intent". Also an archive.org link would be editing in a version of a git binary from 2008; and it looks like that binary isn't needed anymore and got integrated directly into git itself?
In any case, sorry for the mixup guys and gals.
 
@jrh Good catch!
@jrh I don't mind sweetie ;-)
 
jrh
@user0042 so I should post stuff like this here? I'm confused. The FAQ makes it sound like if you don't have the rep to vote you shouldn't post deletion requests.
 
@jrh The sentiment on Meta is clear that posts should be improved, when possible. That answer is mostly a link. However, that's what the question was explicitly asking for (i.e. "git-svn on Windows. Where to get binaries?"). Basically, both that answer and the question should be edited. While the question could just be closed, it appears there's useful information in the other answers, which might justify re-focusing the question (at least the title) on "How to", not "where to get".
 
user3956566
@JonClements yeh I can understand that. I thought b throwing you the scooby snacks I was showing you I wasn't being dismissive.. it was the opposite intention. The truth of the situation was simple. I was tired and wanted to go to bed --> so wanted to end discussion about the script --> didn't want to be rude, so gave scooby snacks. sigh
 
user3956566
This is what comes of bribing a mod with food
 
user3956566
12:12 AM
@ChrisF hey, I understand why you read it that way. It could look terrible. Please see my intentions above.
 
jrh
@Makyen This answer makes me not quite as certain if there really is (was?) a distinct purpose to git-svn (as opposed to git svn). I wasn't expecting that... whoops
 
@jrh You can of course post and requests here. Though it's better if you have those privileges yourself as well.
 
12:28 AM
@jrh Typically such bad answers stem from bad/off topic questions. I'd recommend to get more reps (by answering on topic questions) and start moderating yourself by eliminating the causes (i.e. the questions), not the symptoms (the answers). There is little we can do about the answers unless they are really flaggable.
@Makyen I'm not sure this would not qualify the question as "too broad". (and independently from the actual phrasing, it still would be asking for a tutorial.)
@user0042 Wasn't there something about having at least 1k reps (is that the close-flagging priviledge?)
 
jrh
@Olaf realistically I think the heat death of the universe would happen before I got that much rep in anything other than CR.SE, but fair enough.
 
@jrh Hmm, you should find some questions in assembly, maybe C and embedded, were I lurk, too. Although the latter is more like a pile of unsorted PCBs: most is rubbish/OT, but there might be a bubble meomry board from time to time.
 
jrh
@Olaf possibly, my area of expertise is primarily win32 and x86, thanks for the suggestion though. I do enjoy some assembly. I've been trying to specifically target questions that have been unanswered for a very long time but I'm not sure if that strategy has been really working. Most of the questions I find through day to day searches are already answered well enough.
 
@jrh Just read your profile. WIn32 and x86 is actually not what I'd call "to the hardware" ;-) Anyway, there are some x86 questions. I'd just not check then.
 
12:44 AM
@jrh One thing to remember is to look at the age of the question. The question you linked was written in 2008, when guidelines were different and those posts were somewhat acceptable, and so were answers that proved links to the requested sites or downloads. Guidelines have evolved over time through experience, as well as through creation of other sites. Many of the older questions are preserved for historic reasons; that's one of them.
 
jrh
@Olaf well, not hardware as in LEDs and wires, but as in taking advantage of what the CPUs can do. Though I do the wires and LED stuff too sometimes at work.
 
I don#t think abandoned questions are a good thing to answer in the first place. Not only for the reps, but more for overal interest. I also noticed a lot of them are in fact off-topic/bad, which might be the reason they were not answered. If you think about cv-pls'ing them: we already have trouble to get the new stuff closed;-)
@jrh "what the CPUs can do" is not really "to the hardware" per-se. Just one of many aspects. I'm an old-school engineer, so most likely that's why.
 
jrh
@Olaf ah, PCBs and FPGAs, I see. FPGAs are very interesting; I would love to have an excuse to integrate those into one of my projects but right now we don't need a DSP. Soon, perhaps, though. I was okay at Verilog.
 
@jrh FPGA does not mean DSP. Actually most projects I had were not even using the DSP slices in the FPGAs.
 
jrh
@Olaf sure, it's probably just what we'd use it for, though. I did some old CPU prototypes on a FPGA once.
 
 
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4:54 AM
Plop everyone!
 
 
1 hour later…
6:09 AM
 
^ 7 answers, including one from a 68k rep user pointing out the same thing
 
6:22 AM
@JonClements That is interesting, it could actually be the right review action in some cases (link answer, to question asking for link), Does the close review register the answer as looks ok?
 
@PetterFriberg a dev is going to have a look... It seems to complete the review but whether then actually anything happens or what happens (and if it's consistent) isn't clear - hence the ummm
 
ok thanks for info, I kind of like it, since the action can be correct (it should give a looks ok on the answer)
sometimes that's the action I would like to be registered when I do LQP queue review
 
@PetterFriberg well... There's a button for that
 
Yeah but it's a button you don't like to press for those answers, better to show close option :D
Hence ok this is link only, but the question asked for it
The "feature" actually could have some sense
 
Sure... Then request it... Mocking requests that the system should but doesn't validate quite right might be completely screwing the reviews or otherwise make weird things happen...
Then... All those reviews could have been completely worthless
 
6:33 AM
Yeah I will not force it, but I guess it's up to SE to validate api calls ;), if you can send close then so be it :D
 
Sure... If you've been asked not to and do so anyway - that'd be considered abuse though which'll lead to not good things...
 
true
but the feature could be worth a meta
 
So the feature would be to mark an answer as looks okay and then vote to close the question...?
 
Yeah, it would register the link only answers as ok but question asked for it so close question
 
Well that script marks the answer as closed - that's the no-no here
 
6:41 AM
This is some what a problem on SO and in this meta clearly states that those answer should not be deleted, which instead happens frequently, I normally skip in review (since also clicking look ok feels very awkward)
meeh I think it's nice that it markes it as closed, hence it clearly indicates the review action taken
The closed needs however to count as a looks ok review.
 
What if it doesn't look okay and the question still should be closed?
 
@JonClements, @PetterFriberg Note that whatever the script is doing is not just sending a close vote on the question. I have a script which allows me to send a close vote on the question in that situation. It sends an actual question close vote. Doing so does not result in the review being marked as "close".
 
You are reviewing the answer, so in that case you need to deleted answer and then close, To me a button "I close question instead" has sense.
Not sure what script she is running maybe just a script to show controls under question
anyway message received "do not do this until we figured out what should happen, you are just exploiting a bug"
 
Anyway... Meta request debating aside... Answers right now shouldn't have a review action of "close" and people shouldn't do things that make that happen
 
6:48 AM
@JonClements I understand that whatever script @YvetteColomb is using shows up as a "close" in the review. But, having just tested it with a script I wrote, which I know just sends a close vote to the associated question, it had no impact on the review at all. The question close vote was completely separate from the review. I was able to send the close vote and then re-load the review page with no change to the options. I then completed my review, which registered normally.
 
Well... The thing is whether close registers as recommend deletion or looks okay or just completes the review and does nothing.
 
wondering if it is also is messing up our bots... what happens when we read closed instead of the other actions :D cc @Floern
 
@JonClements An actual question close vote, sent using jQuery from the page context, had no affect on the review, at all. Thus, the script she's using does something other than just a normal close-vote.
 
@Makyen yes... What you're talking about is fine... What's happening that I'm referring to is manually sending a review action of close for an answer (which seems to work because questions in lqp can turn up and close is valid for those and the system doesn't do a check based on q/a just that it's a valid action for lqp or something)
 
@JonClements That would be an interesting way to accomplish it (from the script's point of view). Sounds like the script is exploiting a bug on SE's side to accomplish what would be better to do as two actions: send the close vote, and resolve the review (either with Looks OK or Skip, with Skip being the more conservative choice).
 
user3956566
7:02 AM
@JonClements well it makes my life easier. As, without the script, I would link to the question in a new tab and then vote to close it. I see it as being redundant to vote to delete an answer, when I think the whole lot of posts, question included, should be deleted. We need to be mindful, not to have an officious air, but to actually encourage users to review. If it throws out some stats, by using the script, it's not going to break the internet
 
@YvetteColomb which script are you using?
does it only show controls under question? or does it actually cast votes via api
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg one of the 30 I have installed O>O - one of @TinyGiants. I use most of his scripts
 
user3956566
I'm just busy atm, I can narrow it down later.
 
thanks
 
7:07 AM
@YvetteColomb well... No one's sure yet if it isn't just effectively invalidating reviews which'll have the opposite effect to what you want happening...
 
user3956566
@JonClements invalidate, as in mark the review as ok?
 
orning qo
 
user3956566
I've done it quite a few times, it shouldn't be that hard to work out
 
7:11 AM
I need to get going... Already running late. Bbiab.
 
user3956566
This one stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/17333635 @JonClements for when you return. You can see other reviews after mine
 
user3956566
ok @PetterFriberg see if you can review this stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/17540707
 
@YvetteColomb na I can't do that, Jon has asked to not use it
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg really? I didn't know that
 
7:26 AM
38 mins ago, by Jon Clements
Anyway... Meta request debating aside... Answers right now shouldn't have a review action of "close" and people shouldn't do things that make that happen
hence if someone like to use it, it's better to go to meta first, until future notice we have mod saying that we should not, so using it now is abusive.
 
7:56 AM
@PetterFriberg To put a fine point on it, my understanding was that what was specifically requested not to do was whatever what causing the review action to be "close" for an answer. In other words, using a script in that specific way. It was not using whichever script generally. In other words, other uses of whichever script were not restricted.
@YvetteColomb I'm not seeing a close option on LQP reviews with the ReviewEnhancements.user.js userscript. Is what you see a normal review-action button (blue, in row with Looks OK, etc.) that says "close"? In other words, am I looking for the changed/added control in the correct place?
 
@Makyen yes exactly, we are not allowed to use script that pass a LQP review action that is "close"
 
@PetterFriberg On answers. As I understand it, on questions, close a normal option.
 
correct
 
 
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user3956566
9:17 AM
@Makyen I just click close on the actual question, as if it's a question not in the queue. It's not a review option itself
 
And that still exists.
 
Ron
o/
 
Meanwhile, that tool request I linked still isn't close to being closed....
 
BDL
@Cerbrus How is this a tool request? It asks whether there is a feature available in javascript.
 
And the answers are all "no, look at documentation X"
And a crappy one that says "look at the object's properties"
"Too broad" applies as well.
 
BDL
9:30 AM
I don't think that crappy answers make a questions bad. If the answer would have been "Yes there is such a feature and it works like this", then the same question would be a perfect fit
 
Then it'd still be a low quality question: no research
Which would be answered by linking to the feature's documentation....
 
user3956566
@TetsuyaYamamoto that was TOO CAPS lol
 
user3956566
9:46 AM
There's no one close voting from this room atm, other than the few people posting requests
 
Behold the power of my Hammer! I'm close voting them right now!
 
user3956566
10:02 AM
@DragandDrop you have a hammer?
 
user3956566
 
> A variation of @gunr2171
Always fun if you go wait, I know that guy when you find an answer
 
user3956566
huh?
 
@TheLostMind: Thanks for closing that tool request, by the way. Would it be a good idea to remove all comments after my "Note: "?
 
@YvetteColomb I ring my bell in the morning ...
 
10:09 AM
@rene wait you aren't supposed to be a cow AFAIK...
 
@YvetteColomb Coolest trousers ever :p
 
user3956566
 
@kayess yep, I'm eaten by cows ... wait ...
 
user3956566
@JonClements it's so repetitive, yet I still love that song :)
 
Who cares about the song - why didn't those trousers take off properly! :)
 
10:10 AM
@YvetteColomb bells and whistles
 
user3956566
@JonClements LOLOL cos he looks like a life size marionette
 
user3956566
I'm so tired. I'm getting an early night.
 
user3956566
My muscles are wasting again and it's making me super tired.
 
o/
 
user3956566
See y'all later
 
10:12 AM
later yvette
 
sleep well
 
user3956566
scooby snacks for @jon
 
user3956566
thanks guys
 
@SmokeDetector edited
 
10:31 AM
@Cerbrus - Ya. Done. Thanks for saying 'Thanks'
 
@TheLostMind Thanks for saying 'Thanks' for saying 'Thanks'
And thanks
:P
 
The puppy hates Friday fun .....
 
What makes you think it's limited to Fridays! :)
 
@Cerbrus Thanks for that
 
11:06 AM
Only 1 question left open for tag
Also, please delete other closed off-topic questions if possible
 
Ron
Someone please approve the dupe flag on this one.
Eeer already done.
Carry on.
 
 
2 hours later…
12:55 PM
morning
 
@gunr2171 It's not 'bad question morning' here. It's 'bad question afternoon' already.
 
1:11 PM
@MartinJames as night follows night and all that
 
2:05 PM
@Machavity eh, I don't even get any SEO vibes from that; voted as unclear
 
@TylerH Works for me
 
Ugh, my css dupe is getting answers by high-rep users
 
2:42 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis Did you mean [delete-pls]? I approve if so - the question's worthless and the answers are VLQ.
 
had to close first
 
3:06 PM
slept like a baby without my eye shield on
then when i went to drive, instant dry eyes so I had to pull over and dropper them to death
 
3:29 PM
@Compass eye drops make it worse, just slice some onions and make natural tears
 
 
1 hour later…
4:36 PM
Hi everyone! \o
 
I think I did the command wrong. sd k del should be yes and then delete, or should I have done somethign else to chain?
 
if sd k, don't send delete, it will auto delete when it's nuked (hence leave it so others can flag)
 
4:55 PM
was concerned it wouldn't be auto deleted and we'd have a spam phone number foreverrrrr in chat :|
 
5:17 PM
Is that an f? looks like a poop question but not spam.
 
Ron
5:29 PM
o/
 
Ron
What I would like to know is whether the language gold badge qualifies you to start working as a professional developer in that language?
I sure hope so as I plan to put it in my CV instead of attending bogus technical interviews...
 
no
 
Ron
Damn it.
;)
"Here is my SO golden badge. Take me to your queen."
 
@Ron "Hey, front-desk security here, there's some guy carrying a huge hammer to see you - says he has an interview appointment?" ... "Oh right, I double-booked the time - it's a duplicate appointment"
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Ron
5:43 PM
@MartinJames "And prefers not to get off his high horse. What shall we do?"
 
@MartinJames sigh Here's your star
 
@PaulStenne lol
 
Ron
Do people get hit by recruiters here on SO?
The ones who expressed the wish to be hit.
 
You do know about SO's job thingies, right?
I wouldn't count on it happening. I'm aware of a few instances it happened but it's pretty rare
 
Ron
I was thinking more about the autopilot.
Something like the LinkedIn model.
Where one gets A LOT of recruiter (spam) requests.
@MartinJames Do recruiters contact you via SO?
 
5:52 PM
@Ron No, usually email direct to spam folder.
 
@Ron I've been contacted several times, even without stating to look for a job actively.
 
yeah but where
not a website
 
Ron
@user0042 Should one put language gold badge in Resume these days?
I wonder if it would have any effect.
Or at least a link to profile.
 
@Ron I'm not really sure SO activity should be mentioned in a resume at all. Under the Hobbies section maybe.
 
Ron
Damn...
 
6:04 PM
It really depends on the company culture, but I'd save it for an interview personally
Joel Spolsky once said he would hire anyone with 10k+ SO reputation
that was years ago when 10k rep was rarer, maybe today he'd revise that to say 50k or something
 
@TylerH I've put some of my work published at github into my resume.
 
but the thing is, it's usually HR who reads the resumes and filters out based on some experience metrics
so they will pay no attention to a line that says "x reputation on Stack Overflow" or "Gold badge holder in <language> on SO"
 
Ron
@TylerH I saw a high rep user profile that kind of recruits people for Google (?), states: "if you have reasonably high reputation and would like to work for..."
 
@TylerH :D
 
Ron
6:08 PM
Well that sure dampens my rep pursuit.
 
@gunr2171 You saved us from the boss seeing that?? :)
 
Ron
I was under the impression recruiters on SO have some search facilities allowing them to filter people.
 
@user0042 by "the boss" you mean rene?
 
@gunr2171 No, the owner of the Stack Exchange "Imperium" ...
 
well, we don't appreciate making fun of people here in this room, CEO's or otherwise
 
6:12 PM
@gunr2171 Would you be so kind to move this message as well then plz!
 
@user0042 How is that making fun of someone?
 
Ron
Under cc by-sa 3.0 with attribution required...
 
@Machavity Joel made fun of themselves if that's true :P
 
What a time to be alive
 
what, 2:14?
is 2:13 not a good time to be alive?
 
Ron
6:14 PM
@Compass Naaah, I was born too early.
 
@gunr2171 1 hour until π-time
 
Ron
Are accepted answers rep included in the 200 daily cap?
 
@Ron No. Accept gains are excluded from the rep cap.
 
Ron
@user0042 Appreciate it.
 
@Ron At your service ;) (that's even documented in the help pages IIRC)
 
Ron
6:23 PM
@user0042 I am in a spoon-feed-me mode on Fridays.
 
@Ron :D
@Ron I did all my work myself today ;-)
 
Ron
New Blade movie - "The rise of help vampires."
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this has happened in loop for the last few hours
 
Ron
@user0042 More power to you Delphian.
 
@gunr2171 Yeah - you have to wait until the ransomware has finished encrypting all your disks.
 
6:31 PM
@Ron Did you ever see how these guys in Star Trek are taking control over alien computer systems, where even the input devices were labeled in an alien language? I'm feeling great just like that :D
@Ron "From dusk 'til dawn" ;) ...
 
Ron
@user0042 ;)
 
Sod it. That 'solve the code and get reward' GMTC just had to be deleted, could not wait for roomba.
 
@gunr2171 reinstall time
 
@Ron Wesley Snipes with a gun at the vampire "RTFM, dude. Just RTFM!"
 
Ron
Haha
 
6:38 PM
@TylerH thankfully it's a VM and there are 3 other clones of it, so we can just re-clone it
 
Ron
@Machavity Ultimately it's all cc by-sa 3.0 with attribution required.
@user0042 Funny, yesterday I encouraged the last user commenting to turn his comment into an answer.
He got a lot of upvotes consequently.
 
@Machavity Rot (in) The Frickin' Mud??
@Mach Sry!
=> MSDN equivalents to Muddy Science Denying Network
 
:39490965 good call
 
@SamOnela ^ Does this?
 
alright, let's stop skirting around offensive terms
 
6:49 PM
@user0042 mayhaps...
 
@SamOnela perbe ...
Sorry @all for frequent pinging!
Would one of the RO's be so kind to remove this. Cleared up my mind @gunr2171, @NathanOliver, @rene
@PaulStenne Are you still a RO BTW?
 
Uh yeah
... The avatar wasn't mandatory to the job. I think.
 
@PaulStenne So do me the favor please!
 
plop
 
6:58 PM
Plop gunr
 
@PaulStenne I have my doubts how much your activity at SO is relevant for job seeking at all. See the transcript from here ;-)
@Paul Just be sure not to piss at your new bosses blue suede shoes ;-)
 
Shock! Someone did some work: 'I've built an 8 bit computer out of some ( I mean a tonne ) of wires and 74xx series TTL gates'.
 
Ron
@user0042 You probably meant @Ron.
 
@MartinJames Wow. I'd have used concrete and thyristors instead :P ...
 
@MartinJames ANother Apple-II? Or 6502 clone? I thought about that once. (not that it is very complicated, just the memory might be a problem with the max. 256 bit 74xx RAMs.
@user0042 A computer using AC internally? Interesting …
 
7:03 PM
@Ron Huh? Where?
@Olaf I smelled you'd be interested in such ;)
 
@user0042 I would have used cars, with car parking bays as registers/menory.
'TTL and wires' guy is here: stackoverflow.com/q/46612116/758133
 
@MartinJames LOL! Turing Machines :D
 
Not really. see ^, I find a TTL (actually 74-CMOS) based CPU much more appealing. But I'd not use 74XX RAMs for main memory.
 
Ron
@user0042 Here.
 
@user0042 Yeah, GT for faster processing:)
 
7:06 PM
@user0042 your request has been handled. Please fill out our 35 pages customer satisfaction survey to serve you even better in the future ...
 
@Ron Sure I meant our recent dialogue about that topic.
 
Ron
@MartinJames Plenty of YT videos on the subject.
 
@rene I'll give it five stars. Promised!
 
Ron
I counted 20 breadboards.
 
A frined showed me some ditial circuitry in Minecraft (IIRC Tetris or so). I tried some logic stuff in Minetest myself; interesting.
 
7:09 PM
@rene Oh, that reminds me: I have to respond for the prof movers request, who made my ex-wife's relocation recently :P
 
@Ron Meh - should be restricted to individual 4*2 input NAND gates only.
 
I guess lots of people would love to have their wife professional re-located
 
@rene Umm.. is that service available?
 
@MartinJames Interesting, but unclear/TB
 
@gunr2171 Switch to Mac or Linux? :)
 
7:12 PM
why would you voluntarily switch to mac?
 
@Olaf Yeah, but I hadn't the heard to dv/close it, not after N no-effort homework dumps this week;(
 
@MartinJames just look it up in the yellow pages. If you find none, we have found a niche market
 
@rene Well, I organized these professionals more because of saving my spine's sanity. I would have been in charge either way anyways ;-)
@PraveenKumar Switch to linux. Mac-OS is merely a subset (just like C is a "subset" of C++)
 
@gunr2171 You want the rest of the day off when the hardware breaks after an hour.
 
@user0042 Yep I know right?
 
7:15 PM
@MartinJames Well, there are sometime interesting questions. But we just have to hide our emotions sniff
 
Meh... bwah;(((
 
@MartinJames I don't see what his problem is. He seems to already have a working computer, so why is he now asking fgor an instruction set? From the comments, there is a lot of basics to learn befor starting the next stage. (I actually doubt there is a true running computer; this does not really require "tons" of TTL - unless you only use only 7474 for storage or similar, of course).
 
7:30 PM
@Olaf The 7474 were flip-flop circuits, do I remember that correctly?
 
7:48 PM
@user0042 2 D-FFs actually. Maybe a 7473 (JK-FF) would be more versatile. Actually, I'd use the higher integration 7484 for the register bank (iff I'd use one at all and 74374, etc. for other registers, the 7483 ALU and a bunch of counters and (de)multiplexers (always handy).
With 74LVC this should give some MHz for something like a 6502 design (accumulator architecture), as long as RAM is normal CMOS-RAM (74 RAM is nonsense).
(You might have noticed I already thought about this before;-)
 
8:14 PM
@Olaf A bit-slice ALU is cheating. Not gonna learn much from that, except how to interpret timing diagrams:)
 
8:35 PM
@Jean Well, I knew that I already invited you here (or you even were present already): meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/357422/…
@Jean I know the borderline we are balancing on, regarding answering questions (in comments) or simply closing them. It's tough stuff to do.
 
@user0042 thanks. I think I visited this silly hat room. I don't really remember. What do you mean exactly?
@user0042 about the "borderline": is there an issue? Yes, sometimes people don't like seeing their question closed as a dupe and don't understand. Is that what you meant?
(no offense, I just have a hard time understanding your point, but I like this kind of discussion, so feel free to elaborate)
 
Guys guys please ... It's 5 days I'm trying to pass a really hard lovely failure, but still I've a sadness feeling and can't work :-( ..! Any idea?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I was trying to invite you recently (that's why I asked at meta), because you answered a clearly off topic question, instead of applying a close vote.
@Shafizadeh CBD oil is a great saver. I'm extremely relaxed since I'm trying it. Seems to be expensive stuff though :-P ...
 
8:58 PM
@jean Ooooops! Big fail and face palm! I've been confusing you with this user. I'm so sorry, you french look all same to me (seems I'm an admitted racist)
 
@FireAlarm I know Google has become a verb but apparently speech to text is too now...
 
@user0042 no problem! I was surprised to learn I was answering off-topic (like a lot). Well, maybe sometimes I do (because close votes arrive afterwards)... but I'm not proud of it :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Sure, I did the same as everyone does from time to time :P
 
the guy is from Canada BTW :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre French canadian :P ... Deserves a poutine :)
 
9:10 PM
@Makyen Know the answer this one, by any chance? stackoverflow.com/questions/45142863/…
Hmm, actually looks like it was fixed in the bug report
 
@Jean Well, I'm used to wear Lederhos'n and eat roast Schweinshaxe and Leberkäs all day long. I don't mind to fulfill my race cliché. I just love to do so ;)
Not to mention all the beer ...
 
^I'm out of votes, so I haven't voted to close yet
 
@user0042 Oh, from Munchen ? :)
wearing leather jackets? :)
or green shorts?
what's a poutine? (besides the obvious Vladimir)
 
Actually, , , and have a lot of off topic questions if anyone has spare votes for the CV queue.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Also all the time! I've got a rotten nappa leather jacket I really love.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Rosenheim! It's a bit different.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre A canadian poutine is fries with cheese and sauce IIRC. @Tiny might be able to put a better definition.
 
9:26 PM
@user0042 sauce being gravy, and cheese being cheese curds I believe, at least that is how it is served here in places south of the border
 
@SamOnela Ah, yeah gravy sure!
 
oh, yes poutine, now I see.
@user0042 in France it's difficult to make jokes about nazis. I don't mind, it's jokes, and doesn't make you a nazi ("Nazis, I hate those guys" as Indiana would say)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre To be clear: I'm a world citizen, just the opposite of a racist.
 
SO should just dump all questions starting with 'Consider', 'Explain' or 'Given' ;((
 
@user0042 I figured that out :) Racists aren't joking about being racist.
 
9:29 PM
@MartinJames Include "How to ..." PLZ!
 
Heiiiiiiiiiii<punch face>
 
@user0042 Oh yeah - first in list!
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I love my culture though ;-). I always have to defend that against all those stupid racists, who don't get the difference.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre As you're mentioning "Indy" we're a nerd race it seems ;-)
 
@JohnDvorak yet a question about a library doesn't make it automagically on topic, nor a question about web servers do make it automagically off topic.
This is why the last constrain is important: it's not "primarily used for programming" or "commonly used by programmers", it's "commonly used by programmers" and "a practical, answerable problem that is unique to software development". The close vote reason tried to encompass both statement into a single one, which is the reason for the stronger wording. — Braiam 22 hours ago
 
@user0042 I want all the subhumans exterminated to make space. For now, I would be happy with final solutions for PHP developers and West Ham fans.
 
9:40 PM
@Braiam Nitpicking about too-broad / 3rd party requests? Is that worth it?
 
@user0042 I'm not sure you are following the message I'm replying to.
 
@MartinJames Wow, "final solution" sounds so bad :P
 
@user0042 no, not that one :)
some colleagues use that term when they describe their solution... hardly a recommendation. I suck at history, but I reminded not to use that expression.
 
@user0042 'Being thrashed 4-0 by Chelsea will set you free'
 
9:44 PM
Do you have to use a close vote to use Mjolnir?
 
@TylerH I wouldn't actually call it "fixed", although the bug was marked "fixed" (and did require changes). It's more of, "that's not the way it's supposed to work". What the OP described isn't the intended usage. As to the Q, it's a debugging question (without MCVE) masked as a how-to question (actually, a find me the right API call). It does link to an extension (not the extension's code), which presumably would duplicate the problem (code is linked in the bug report).
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Nope! I'm not that kind of. I'm the real king of nerds, not what TV tries to tell us who we are (including the figures of Sheldon Cooper and Leonard Hoffstadter)
 
@EJoshuaS probably, but I didn't check. send me a python dupe and I'll tell ya
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I wish I had my very own hammer to find out by experiment;(
 
@user0042 ok I won't try to compete with you
 
9:47 PM
Wow, Johnny Cash is always good for surprising me: youtube.com/watch?v=drsMyeXzLSo
 
Yeah, I wish I had Mjolnir :( It wouldn't matter though b/c I'm out of votes for today.
 
Way underestimated guy!
@EJoshuaS You may regret that wish if you got it ...
 
@MartinJames 786 points on "multithreading"? seriously? gold badge in multithreading would be an accomplishment
@user0042 he even played a murderer in Columbo (and sang, of course). Columbo ends with something like "with that voice, you cannot be all bad"
Mjolnir is a lot of work guys :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Sounds good, then I have to somehow explain getting 218 on Java - a language I've never used:)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Sure! I know that episode. Ya know Ice-T played that cool p'lice man in the "Law & Order" series :-P ...
 
9:55 PM
@user0042 I like L&O. It's good that the usual 'Cops make arrrest' flows on to arguing with DA's, defense lawyers etc.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm pretty sure that it's more fun to live side by side than trying to compete :D
@MartinJames But you remember that piece?
 
@user0042 911? I'm still reeling from 'Dial 1-800-HOMEWORK' that puts you straight through to SO.
 
@MartinJames Should be "BETTER CALL SAUL" probably :D
 
lol
@adiga Oh crappo, out of dv :(
Hez, SO, Gimme moar of teh votes!
 
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10:19 PM
@user0042 Fries (cooked correctly i.e. blanched then cooked), cheese curds, and a hearty dark gravy. There are many alterations like adding ham and peppers and such.
 
@KenWhite Meh, three 20k+ cucumbers have already answered;(
 
@KenWhite It's odd that there are so many high-rep users answering a "gimme teh codez" question like that - I wonder why. I'd VTC too if I had any left, I had to content myself w/ a DV and comment
 
@MartinJames I have some votes left today. Maybe because I didn't visit the dumpster fire that is jQuery and javascript tags.
 
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@user0042 Except that how-to questions are not off-topic, and are in fact some of the most useful questions this site has to offer.
 
@adiga Yeah, I visited and (speaking of horrible question magnets).
 
10:26 PM
@TinyGiant Sure, I'm sure those exist, but vanishingly few ATM;(
 
@EJoshuaS at least those are not popular tags. A lot of good questions on jquery and javascript get ignored. Dupes and some silly "jquery selector not working" get a lot of upvotes.
 
@TinyGiant Much of sands to sieve to find the pearls though :P
 
10:52 PM
@MartinJames But that VLQ question contributes nothing to the site, even with the answers that (unbelievably) were posted by users who should clearly know better.
 
@KenWhite I agree entirely. I vtc, and would have dv as well if I had any left.
 
@EJoshuaS Yeah, my problem as well. Looks like it was closed; needs one more delete vote. One hi-rep answerer responded to a comment I left that says it looked interesting; I've seen VLQ posts that looked interesting as well, and I work out a solution myself just to figure out how, but won't post an answer until the post is improved.
 
@KenWhite Oh - just rechecked. Was at 2 delv, so I finished it off.
 
@MartinJames Just saw that. Thx. :-) DId you see the poster had further defaced it before it was deleted, despite the help they got?
 
user4639281
10:57 PM
There are currently 488,934 questions containing "how to" in the title with a score of 2 or more. There are a lot of how-to questions that are asked that are too broad, but there are also a lot of other types of questions that are asked which are off-topic for any number of reasons. That doesn't make the category of question off-topic, it makes that individual question off-topic.
 
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When we start throwing bad questions in buckets then saying that any question that can possibly fit in that bucket is off-topic, we run into trouble and end up closing reasonable questions. @user0042 @martinjames
 
@KenWhite No, but as I still had it open, I just had a look :(
 
@MartinJames Sad. No appreciation whatsoever. No respect, either. Shame.
 
user4639281
We need to be careful with how we're throwing around these blanket statements. They are very easy to say, yet very hard to undo the damage from. For example "what have you tried?" is a completely useless statement and is detrimental at best, yet it is extremely pervasive (less so now that the exact phrase has been banned, but it still exists and is still a problem).
 
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