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1:00 PM
@Xatenev well, here you go playstation.com/en-us/games/…
 
My favorite is the questions on mysql* funcs
 
@Saitama Overwatch is simply too casual :/
 
nah, the competitive mode is pretty toxic to be casual :P
 
it is not.. but the way blizz handles the game balance is too sucky
 
if you want toxic community, go play league of legends
 
1:01 PM
heh - It is simply too imbalanced to be a serious competetive game.
Way too many characters - its almost impossible to balance that well
 
also, look at this analysis session... I haven't even considered such possibilities before... :B
 
SC was/is a great competetive game. CS too
 
^ don't click the link, it's porn btw
 
Anybody had contact with the freenode support? How long does it take for them to answer? :p
(IRC)
 
You don't know toxic until you've played runescape
 
1:03 PM
@AlmaDo fuck you
 
careful with that one, man - I was kicked from here for saying exactly that :\
 
:x
 
How do people post an answer to a topic after it has closed
 
@WillParky93 league of legends
 
2 hours ago, by Wes
pretty much any case in which i have a private member that i want allow another class to read, but just that one class
 
1:07 PM
@WillParky93 this?
 
@Wes Have you ever thought about just not caring about that sort of thing?
 
they must be hackers, I reported them
 
Wes
> A public method is like a child: once you've written it, you are going to maintain it for the rest of its life!
~ Stefan Priebsch
 
@Tiffany OW community is pretty bad at the tier before highest. Half of people are there by chance, a quarter is boosted and the rest may be more or less "fine" - but everybody deems himself as a rockstar and plays selfish..
 
"write code to be disposable".
 
Wes
1:09 PM
so, layering
 
/like a child
 
Wes
:D
 
@AlmaDo sounds like league
 
@Danack so, >/dev/null?
 
except you get toxicity at all levels of play
 
1:09 PM
Seriously....it's okay to iterate. And you can just mark a method as 'private, but PHP - use at your own risk'.
 
php is my favorite compiled client side language
 
never played LoL... stopped with OW on one tier before the highest because screw trolls and griefers, screw rockstars and egoists and screw blizz with their imbalance (:
 
I can almost guarantee you league is worse in every regard to toxic players
 
@AlmaDo Blizz is a great game company. Just OW is trash :P
 
s/OW/D3
 
1:12 PM
s/D3/OW\/D3
 
@Tiffany clearly you've not played Hearthstone
 
I have
 
@WillParky93 no it isn't
 
I like Hearthstone
but I don't play it right now because Path of Exile has my soul atm
 
what isn't @JoeWatkins?
 
Anonymous
1:13 PM
@JoeWatkins he's a troll, ignore him
 
Anonymous
4 hours ago, by JayIsTooCommon
@WillParky93 please go away.
 
if he's a troll, then first we should cut his hair crazy, then draw a penis on him, and glue him somewhere conspicuous ... such as onto the windscreen of an enemy ...
 
Jay is just mad I can write javascript in php
 
@JoeWatkins WITNESS ME
 
!!dad
 
1:18 PM
Why does Snoop Dogg carry an umbrella? Fo' drizzle.
 
only if I can get 20% of revenue from your project
 
@WillParky93 doesn't seem to pass the turing test
I keep getting the feeling he's a bot spewing random troll sentences into the room.
 
beep boop
There's a good chance I'm autistic
 
@MadaraUchiha now that you mention it, it's like @Jeeves
 
1:19 PM
@Tiffany You're welcome.
3
 
so what you're saying is, @Jeeves is an autistic robot
 
@Tiffany No, because ciccia de luca is a girl name.
 
@Jeeves ...
 
@Linus How are you?
 
please don't talk to it, it annoys the crap out of me ...
 
Anonymous
1:21 PM
who @JoeWatkins, @Jeeves ?
 
@JayIsTooCommon I believe that is his name.
 
Anonymous
@Jeeves don't talk about yourself in third person, Joe won't like it
 
@JayIsTooCommon Oww, like I care.
 
@Jeeves Do you like ass cactuses?
 
@Jimbo I do not know what that is.
 
1:22 PM
@Jeeves Do you like ass cactuses?
 
@JoeWatkins No.. I Love You/,3.
 
<3
 
@Jeeves beep boop
 
@WillParky93 Boop boop beep.
 
1:23 PM
:P
 
I keep reading this guys name as WillyPark
 
@Jeeves What do you think about PHP developers?
 
@Jimbo @‌jeeves I don't think I like php developers?
2
 
this guy
 
Anonymous
@Leigh your kinda park
 
1:23 PM
well
 
Morgen room
 
Anonymous
yoodj
 
\o
 
good morning
 
!!trans Morgen
 
1:24 PM
@Jeeves say good morning to @PeeHee
 
@salathe Good night.
 
!!trans should put a picture of @DaveRandom's latest naked escapade
 
Good bot
 
!!whosmom
 
@Jimbo Yes, he broke translation... It no longer works
 
1:25 PM
^ We never implemented this :(
 
Wes
@JoeWatkins sausage / wurstel croissant i.imgur.com/DCzA8a6.jpg don't you have them in britain?
 
pigs in blankets we call them
 
@Jimbo we did...
 
but we use bacon instead of bread
 
mmmm mini sausage rolls
 
1:26 PM
@Wes we have a thing like that ... the croissant was a total failure, I just ended up with a sausage in one hand, and most of a squashed croissant in the other ... disaster ...
 
Wes
@WillParky93 america?
 
Wes
@JoeWatkins if you used a sweet croissant i bet it sucked :B
 
No England, @Wes
 
Wes
i thought only americans could use bacon as replacement for bread, but ok
 
1:27 PM
3 messages moved to Trash
 
Wes
!!dave
 
ooh la la
 
Wes
i'm dying
 
pls move that to trash I cant open chat now cause my boss sits behind me
 
Wes
1 message moved to Trash
 
1:28 PM
I was looking at that ...
 
Interesting, it's still showing in "starred"
 
Wes
@JoeWatkins i know you were
 
!!unaliax dave
 
7 messages moved to Trash
 
Anonymous
omfg
 
Anonymous
1:30 PM
hahahaha
 
Anonymous
what is that.
 
!!unalias dave
 
Alias '!!dave' removed
 
@Jeeves \')\00\x00\n\p whats your parser like
 
@WillParky93 I don't have one. I'm single.
 
1:30 PM
nice
 
jokes are one thing....but they don't need to be repeated always.
 
Anonymous
boooring
 
@Jeeves Op me please
 
@WillParky93 Show you what.
 
Wes
i think the most normal pic of @DaveRandom that i've seen is the one in which he wears a banana hammock
 
1:31 PM
ftr normal pics of me do exist but they are boring
also my twitter avatar is a sfw pic of me
 
I don't like the sfw ones
 
@JayIsTooCommon have you not noticed that a significant number of people who this room has constantly made jokes about (even positive jokes) don't come round here any more?
 
me either, that's why I don't use them :-P
but I got fed up of weaponised anonymity on twatter
 
who are you talking about @Danack ?
 
Anonymous
@Danack I haven't no, but I doubt Chris is getting offended by us re-sharing his shared pictures that he shares quite often. share.
 
1:34 PM
@JoeWatkins rdlowrey, lusitanian.
 
@Danack ftr I really am not bothered about that stuff but I do 100% agree in general
 
@Xatenev well I ended playing all of their games in the end..
 
the latter was before me ... but daniel got a girlfriend ...
 
and more generally, a life
 
@Tiffany hm.. at the times of the 1.02 game version it was.. fun :p
like in.. 2012?
 
1:35 PM
yeah, it has nothing whatever to do with banter ...
 
Anonymous
^
 
........right. Having the same jokes made over and over again certainly wouldn't make people hesitate before opening their room11 tab
 
I am agree with @Danack in general, though
that sort of stuff can come across as bullying
 
Anonymous
Who or what are we referring to?
 
even if the recipient isn't bothered, it can put others off
 
1:37 PM
I think it's not about the joke themselves, but more about the persistence and consideration of when to quit
 
@JayIsTooCommon repeatedly making the same jokes over and over again. e.g. rdlowrey in a boyband. Or daverandom having dodgy photo posing tastes.
 
@JayIsTooCommon the slightly toxic boys-club atmo than occasionally (not always, and no-one in particular to blame) exists in #11
 
I've never been there while it crossed any kind of line, daniel used to join in the banter ... and today we are talking about posting picture that you posted, of yourself ...
 
ftr this is a long standing complaint by some people outside the inner circle
it's come up on twatter a number of times
 
did something change while I was gone? Oo..
 
1:39 PM
and it's a point that's been put forward by good, reasonable people, and it's been put forward nicely and sincerely
 
boys club I don't recognize ...
 
Anonymous
^
 
make a joke once, is funny. Making the same jokes 5 times.....not quite as funny. Having an alias setup so you can make the same jokes over and over again, actually getting tedious.
 
Anonymous
it's banter. A bunch of friends who talk everyday are going to have regular repetitive banter.
 
oh.. we have boys club nowadays? screw it.. I'm in a gentlemen club ;)
 
1:40 PM
@JoeWatkins I mean the attitude more than anything else, and it's certainly not all the time, and when it happens everyone kind of piles in
including me, and I often don't notice until after (or even at all)
 
@JayIsTooCommon well not always. And 'banter' is a UK phenomenom that the rest of the world doesn't actually do as much. And even for people in the UK, this room repeats jokes far too much, to cross the line into being boorish.
 
*sometimes
**from the PoV of outsiders
 
@IROEGBU We never implemented !!whosmom
 
Anonymous
@Danack I don't see it personally though, I'm not a sensitive person at all. So maybe that's why.
 
@Danack Lusitanian and cryptic? who else?
 
1:43 PM
I am not attempting to thought- or tone-police, merely inviting people to reflect on how stuff might look to others, occasionally
@JayIsTooCommon indeed, I think this applies to me as well
 
also Daniel (?) … but not sure whether it's because he's busy or whatnot
 
I can't guess how it looks to others, and don't think you should try either ...
 
I'm just sitting here, silently judging, as per usual. :)
 
@Danack I absolutely believe that rdlowrey + ircmaxell aren't here any more because they're generally busy elsewhere and have moved on
 
@AlmaDo D3?
 
1:44 PM
many factors.
And for the record - I may be more aware of this, due to how tedious it is people trying to be funny when they learn my name.
 
@Tiffany yeah..
 
@bwoebi cryptic turns up occasionally (was here on Fri I think), I think she mostly doesn't hang out here so much because she doesn't do much PHP
 
Anonymous
It's probably not fair on them to make assumptions about their inactivity though, unless they've said it to you. If not, it's putting words in their mouth
 
@Jimbo Anthony is sometimes lurking in here
 
@Danack I can't think of any jokes :/
 
1:45 PM
@DaveRandom yeah, rarely… but rarely.
 
That's nothing I can use for your name...
 
> "HA HA HA YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A JOKE BASED ON THE FACT I SHARE A NAME WITH SOMEONE FAMOUS - YOU CERTAINLY AREN'T THE 50000TH PERSON TO TRY AND FAIL ON THAT"
 
But I can't think of anyone really being made to leave
 
@AlmaDo I think they improved it with Reaper of Souls, but after playing PoE for a couple of months, I don't have any interest in D3 now.
 
Oh... I was searching my brain and thought of "Dan Hemorrhoid" instead
I don't know who Dan Ackroyd is
 
1:46 PM
wat
 
I didn't either
 
srsly
 
Okay I googled, now I know his face
 
@Danack at least your name is associated with an actor... my full name apparently is a model's and a porn star's
 
that's what I did
 
1:46 PM
@Danack well… I could start making jokes about you sharing a first name with Mr. Lowrey…
 
This is problematic for me, I need to call someone
 
www.tiffanytaylor.com NSFW
 
@Tiffany I just find HnS way too boring
 
/surrounded by kids
 
2-3 month and that's it
 
1:47 PM
@AlmaDo HnS?
 
sneakers.gif
 
@Danack none of whom are taking the bait. I am disappoint.
 
@Tiffany hack&slash
 
@AlmaDo oooh
 
Anonymous
either way, please can we not go down the path of being sensitive or politically correct, if we do that I think we'll lose most of our regulars :B
 
1:48 PM
god, I had my first run-in with someone who got offended too easily...
 
if it makes you feel better, I'm going to continue making jokes about your lack of pubes and age @JayIsTooCommon (ninjaedit)
 
they thought I was talking down to a child when I was explaining why people did something a certain way, and got all up in arms in a group chat.
everyone else sided with me
 
@JayIsTooCommon s/political correct/pointing out when other people are being borderline twats/
 
Anonymous
@JoeWatkins that's ok, you big weird slap head :D
 
@JoeWatkins "pubes" or "lack of ..."?
Haha
 
1:49 PM
@JoeWatkins I'm also explicitly fine with jokes about anything on the long list of my multi-faceted failings
 
wait, what happened tho?
 
someone sprouted pubes... -_-
 
Anonymous
@Danack which hopefully, shouldn't happen very often. It's quite rare :)
 
@DaveRandom I'll also to continue to enjoy your nsfw photos too much ...
 
eewwwww
but also.... fine :-P
 
Anonymous
1:51 PM
and I will continue to fantasise about @Jimbo's mum.
 
ftr I own a laminator
 
smart
 
asses don't laminate themselves
 
I have to do adult things, then more adult things, I'm out ... lata ...
 
@DaveRandom do you laminate your pubes?
 
1:52 PM
\o
 
@Tiffany I'm concerned about the environment and conservation of scarce natural resources
 
rofl
 
@Tiffany fyi this seems to no longer exist
 
I tried to resist the urge
 
1:56 PM
@DaveRandom I was actually disappointed to find that it no longer existed :(
 
no comment
 
you reposter
 
@MadaraUchiha You / anybody seen it yet?
 
Not yet
 
Wes
2:06 PM
 
I am so afraid it will suck
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa yarp
 
@JayIsTooCommon Any good?
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa I enjoyed it. As far a Horrors go, 'twas good. Some really stupid cheesy ass side stories / scenes but apart from that, pretty good.
 
Anonymous
it features @Wes as a child too
 
2:08 PM
ugh, my tests are finally coming to an end... :{|
 
RFC: Arbitrary Expression Interpolation - comments, criticisms, real life examples, etc are all welcome.
6
 
eeeew interpolation :P
 
Wes
the best horrors are the cheap ones, those with scary stuff appearing suddenly. horrors with plots that make sense are usually not good at scaring
though not really an expert of the genre. any suggestions btw? :B
 
I am wondering about opcache though @tpunt
 
@PeeHaa Yeah, I still need to look into that
 
2:13 PM
@Wes Not a horror fan tbh, watching Ori and the Blind forest game trailers make me cry, so I don't think I can handle those
 
Hmmmmm... so "#{$user->firstName()} #{$user->lastName()}" I know I can concat...
 
@DaveRandom huh... used to be a pornstar's site
 
Sorry to interrupt, but this should work for binary data, right? file_put_contents($f, file_get_contents('php://input'));
 
@IROEGBU You could already do this with the {} syntax, since they are variable-like expressions
 
Wes
sorry, don't like it @tpunt i dislike string interpolation in general. i default to "" only because \n etc.
otherwise sprintf all the things
 
2:14 PM
But, won't #"{$user->firstName()} {$user->lastName()} be better?
 
@IROEGBU How?
 
@tpunt I know... I'm just trying to show # outside the quotes might be better
 
@Jimbo have you played Ori and The Blind Forest? I was thinking about giving it a shot...
 
Like C#
@tpunt I mean, if there are multiple evaluations to be done
 
@IROEGBU It doesn't really feel very PHP'ish... Particularly since we can already interpolate some expressions already.
 
Wes
2:17 PM
current string interpolation allows too much already and it even does it inconsistently, ask @LeviMorrison about it :B
 
it means a #{...} for every evaluation...
 
@Wes In that it allows you to interpolate method calls but not function calls?
 
Wes
levi spotted a whole bunch of bugs/inconsistencies. but yes, that kind of stuff
 
@tpunt it may be worth it to mention the behaviour of variable variables in that context 3v4l.org/iIg7j
 
Wes
@tpunt rfc heredoc/nowdoc in expressions. so we can write regexps without having to escape php.
preg_match(<<<REGEX .......... REGEX, ...);
 
2:23 PM
@pmmaga Sure, I'll add it to the examples
 
Wes
i hate that the closing tag can't be indented
 
@Wes That's another thing I'm thinking about drafting an RFC for...
 
yo thomas
 
Wes
@tpunt that i would love :P
 
@Wes you can do that now, just with oddball whitespace requirements
 
2:26 PM
@Wes Looks like you want sigil support for strings (see Elixir's Sigil support)
@JoeWatkins o/
 
watching your head expand was strange
 
:p
 
@tpunt (just an idea) Instead of new interpolation delimiters, how about prefixing the string itself... like f"..." (idea totally not stolen from Python 3.6) along the lines of the old b"..." strings?
 
Wes
i like the heredoc/nowdoc syntax because you can hint the ide the language. for instance <<<SQL SQL; i think phpstorm uses that already for language injections
lata groceries
 
@salathe Yeah, it would definitely be an interesting idea, and something that could be easily extended without impacting BC too. Not sure whether I prefer that syntax or the currently proposed syntax WRT interpolating, though.
 
2:31 PM
You can always choose to use #{} within f"...". But yeah, just an idea to help with the OMG-BC-BREAKS crowd.
 
@Saitama Yep, I think I completed it like 4 times
It's a really nice casual game
 
mm, might just convince my brother to buy it for me then ;)
 
To be honest I really enjoy $sql = 'SELECT * FROM users WHERE password = '.$_POST['password'];
it also seems my Indian friends like my method aswell
 
i like the simplicity
 
what is happening ?
 
2:43 PM
ship it!
 
So.... when are you guys finally gonna kick the troll?
 
Tomorrow
I'm not that bad :(
 
Is it safe to use hash to hash binary strings?
 
As long as those binary strings arn't passwords
 
Ok, thanks.
 
2:54 PM
@JennaSloan Depends on how you hash
 

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