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12:00 AM
The power of a framework is there's code already written for you to be more productive at getting work done efficiently, the power of not reinventing the wheel so you can start reusing solutions.
 
it's a lie
 
Then Laravel is your solution : p
 
if you want to use a third part code, you would use a package library from composer which does exactly what you need
 
php frameworks are installed by composer these days, so no different than another package
 
instead you are taking a boeing 747 just because you want a reclining seat
 
Wes
12:06 AM
frameworks = big ass bundles
 
Yet there's "lightweight" frameworks which aren't big ass bundles
 
Wes
small libraries ftw. js got this right. there are packages that are as small as a single function
 
what you get with a framework is a "loan package" ... and then, for the rest of the lifetime of the project, you are stuck paying "technical debt"
 
Wes
of course also js has big ass frameworks
 
the difference is all in how you use them. For example filp/whoops you toss 2 lines into your codebase and you're flying with some nice debugging
 
12:08 AM
and that's why you need a framework?
boeing .. seats ..
but this is enough, there is not point in trying to convince you
 
A framework is an entire community. If the mission is to get from usa to china, you need a plane.
 
It seems like your mind is made up
 
why not pick a framework and roll with it? now it's a seat, later it's whatever demand the client makes of you. a framework better prepares you for their demands
 
... one day you will learn, maybe
 
lolz. flexibility since no framework is perfect. fine.
 
12:14 AM
you dont understand
anyway, I'm going back to reading
 
> Framework: A product with the business logic removed but all the assumptions left in.
 
There ya go.
 
That's... not a ringing endorsement
 
developing for the web, boom loads of assumptions that are right.
 
32 mins ago, by tereško
@Ultimater you are so ignorant, that it actually physically hurts
 
12:19 AM
What you did there, I see it.
 
Wes
but again we should be less aggressive with newcomers
 
That's your choice. I'm a nice guy with thick skin so I don't mind people expressing themselves however they please.
But generally most aren't that way, and people take offense easily.
 
Wes
12:36 AM
i try to be nice to everyone, even @JayIsTooCommon
but yeah some members in here are very direct sometimes. don't take it personally :B
 
But yeah, I understand there's a never ending learning curve to development. It's inevitable.
All learning aside, we all have our preferences and opinions.
We have the same stuff with Vim vs Atom, Sublime, and dare I say Windows developer's Notepad++ lol
 
12:53 AM
if I do this ` for ($y = 0; $y <= 21; ++$y) {`
and then ad value like this to array $days["day$y"]
what is it called and how can I get for example if avlue is equal 15
value
if a varible value that is equal
 
I think its called php codes. what do you call it?
 
I mean this ["day$y"]
I am trying to get if a value is = the day in 0 to 21 I dont know what is this methode called to search info about it
 
You just assign directly like that. If you're looking to see if such a key exists, you'd just use isset on the key. which is faster than array_key_exists
You'd have $days['day0'], $days['day1']... etc. you could use any array_* function you want like array_filter to get odd days or even days, or the current day, etc
 
@user8124685, maybe want to search for for "variable expansion in double quoted strings".
 
thanx that is what I mean
 
Wes
new generation is so disappointing
 
1:19 AM
I have array with date, person, and price. from my for loop iam adding 21 days based on date. and I have boolean quantity with 1 and 0 value. I am trying to add "0.0" if quantiy =false where the day based on date is 0
   for ($y = 0; $y <= 21; ++$y) {
        if ($quantity == "1") {
            $sum_of_prices +=$hotel_info[$x + $y]['amount'];
            $days["day$y"] = number_format($sum_of_prices / 100, 2, '.', ',');
        } else {
           // $sum_of_prices = 0;
            $days["day$y"]= 0;
        }
that is why I asked because right now I am just showing for all days 0
 
Wes
first you do the calculations, then you do stuff line number_format(), in a completely different loop
 
I tried to loop throug days it gave me an error
must this be a loop I mean I have now already 4 loops and this will be 5
 
1:43 AM
Why does my angular App load in parts.
 
sub-applications?
 
sub-applications?
It loads the empty divs. Few seconds after fills the content.
 
Why load up a large app if you only need part of the system, so sub-apps
 
Modules
 
depends on the architecture
 
1:51 AM
I have a link check it out.
 
@Andrea Can we also please get low-level memory allocation functions in PHP directly? As well as the ability to set $rip to a given chunk of memory [with implicit mprotect() if execution is currently not permitted]? Thanks.
I'll just invoke gcc from dynamically generated C code (with PHP obviously), load that into memory with PHP and then execute it. Obviously the code shall be mutable at runtime from within PHP if needed.
 
Which is where?
 
www.movie-groovy.com
Look at how it loads.
You will see what I mean.
 
You talking about the split second flicker when initially visiting the landing page?
 
correct
you see how nothing loads
then you see the flicker
 
1:59 AM
Have you checked out the request waterfall in tools.pingdom.com ?
 
I do see it now
 
There's a large gap between your assets loading then your assets continuing
Has to be JavaScript related
 
Could it be the way I bundled the app.
 
Wes
speaking of bad ideas @NikiC guess what this does
/** @inline */
function bar(){ echo "foo"; }
:D
i have no idea how to solve recursion though
 
Whatever is calling api.themoviedb.org/3/discover/movie is taking forever to even begin requesting it
 
2:04 AM
I got a clue what it could be.
It wasn't doing that in the development environment.
 
Wes
variables are "namespaced" so that they don't collide with the host scope
i'm not sure if there's a way to do that with methods too
because of visibility mainly. i can enforce that inlined methods may not access private and protected stuff, only public
similarly i could disallow inlining with recursion, or inline up to a certain depth
 
Might be the order you're calling stuff. Perhaps too much heavy weight business logic before tossing up the request
 
Wes
2:20 AM
going to bed. gn \o
 
o/
lol, it sure seem I missed some.. interesting drama
I really thought of you sooner on @tereško. I was having an... "argument" with someone, and they were so uptight that at some point, I started to ask them if they had a problem walking, with a stick so far up their ass. I stopped after having a problem walking though, so I mostly looked stupid, but it was fun
 
2:36 AM
I dislike Drama, I'm all about Comedy : p
I'm the butt of the joke too often
 
from what I gather, you came in here innocently thinking we'd like, appreciate Laravel, right?
 
Yeah
 
well, since you're still here, I take it you hum... were open to other viewpoints?
 
I'm always open-minded even when I'm close-minded. Unlike other's accusations, I do think and make my choices with lots of reason.
 
let's not rehave that debate
 
3:05 AM
Laravel no bueno.
They use a singleton.
 
How do you manage family members that want you to code for them? How do you make them realize that no, 30k dollars is not a lot for a website? How do you actually manage the delicate line between "they're family" and "I also have to eat"?
 
4:04 AM
@Ocramius huh? oO
Also, morns o/
 
morning
o/
 
Opcache ignores streams' opened_path and stat – #75166
 
Wes
4:59 AM
i didn't sleep much
 
sleep is for teh weak
 
Wes
i am weak. i sleep in the afternoon, lol
 
morning
 
Wes
english stuff i will never get
- the difference between may might and could
\o
 
o/
 
Wes
learnersdictionary.com/qa/… there's much more than that and it's hard to memorize
 
Wes
6:15 AM
i miss the emule/edonkey days
torrents are good just for new stuff
 
6:49 AM
\o
 
Wes
o/
 
7:20 AM
\o
 
o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
7:50 AM
\o
 
:p
 
@Ultimater This is hilarious
 
@Jimbo Oh I missed that. Entertaining.
 
o/
 
8:10 AM
\o
 
Anonymous
o/
 
8:53 AM
\o
 
o/
 
hi i wanted to check if the ip is ping-able and I already done it. but the problem is i wanted to insert it into a variable like when $ip has connection $value = true; like that
IM USING PHPSYSINFO
im using phpsysinfo
 
@Andrea I don't make promises I can't keep.
 
Anonymous
!!wotd
 
whoosis: an object or person whose name is not known or cannot be recalled.
 
Anonymous
9:00 AM
@PeeHaa your whoosis smells funny
 
\o
 
@Saitama and the sleepy
@FélixGagnon-Grenier tell them that while you can give advice you don't want to get into a business relationship without someone who you couldn't sue eventually if the business relationship turned sour.
if what you're implying is the start of the relationship, then at all costs you avoid to committing to doing work for them.
 
Anonymous
@Danack You gonna reply or just leave it?
 
Anonymous
9:18 AM
1 message moved to Trash
 
9:34 AM
@JayIsTooCommon leave it. There's just no getting through to him.
> If the save action is completed successfully, the SDK is generating an ImageResponse object with the absolute path to the uploaded image, so your server just have to return it back to the client side.

echo stripslashes(json_encode($response));
 
10:01 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier :D
 
10:11 AM
$response = FroalaEditor_File::delete($_POST['src']);
public static function delete($src) {

    $filePath = $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'] . $src;
    // Check if file exists.
    if (file_exists($filePath)) {
      // Delete file.
      return unlink($filePath);
    }

    return true;
  }
concern.jpg
 
@Danack nice
 
@Danack ugh
so much wrong
 
morn, v2 o/
 
o/
 
10:22 AM
\o
 
Anonymous
10:40 AM
\o
 
10:52 AM
\o/
 
Hello, can someone help me in that code
 
Anonymous
@Wes when's the last time you wished me a good morning?
 
the problem is in $cr
 
Anonymous
@ChristopheCosta post your actual valid code, and then tell the room what it's doing and what you actually want it to do. Someone will hopefully help you then.
 
11:02 AM
whatever it is you want to do @ChristopheCosta, I'm almost 100% certain you don't understand what this really does foreach ( $_POST as $key )
actually read the content of this page php.net/manual/en/control-structures.foreach.php
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier i want to iterate wich position of the array in that case in csv file
 
you did not read it.
 
^
anybody here, dislikes history as well?
 
Hate is a strong word.
 
Anonymous
11:08 AM
Aug 23 at 16:27, by JayIsTooCommon
strong feeling too
 
@ChristopheCosta hint: the solution is in the very beginning of the page.
 
the POST?
but i want to split that in csv
 
no... of the manual page, I jsut told you to read
 
without corp_resp
 
11:09 AM
lol
 
open the damn link, and look at the structure of what a foreach is supposed to be
 
try to use it on a variable with a different data type or an uninitialized variable
 
@ChristopheCosta chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/39034662#39034662 open that php.net page, and read it... well, not read, but just skim the content
you'd get the thing you're after
 
I just took mental sanity measures.
 
Anonymous
no, read it. Don't skim it.
 
11:11 AM
@JayIsTooCommon nobody, ain't got no time...
 
I leave that into your hands, dear colleagues
 
ffs
 
Anonymous
one job
 
Anonymous
is it pw?
 
of course
 
Anonymous
11:16 AM
1 message moved to Trash
 
Anonymous
fed up of always picking up the pieces @joe.
 
I don't understand. I don't see the message in the Trash
 
same
 
Anonymous
exactly :)
 
11:17 AM
wat happened?
 
Anonymous
I'm just saving Joe's life, that's all.
 
goddamn it, its making me so anxious...
 
oh
nvm @Saitama, it's really not something we have to see
 
okay :(
pw, as in password?
 
11:20 AM
no, panda wig
 
yeah, it's important we don't realize that pandas wear those
for when they take over the world
 
:P
 
that's fucked up
 
9gag.. old
I remember the comment on that post... wait lemme post that image
 
you mean, the comment in the image right there on the screen?
 
11:27 AM
no
the comment on this post
 
@Fabor How's your scrolling?
 
that's an... odd question ;)
 
hiii guys
i am new in this group
 
Anonymous
!!welcome VishalVaishnav
 
Welcome @VishalVaishnav, please read the Chat Guidelines
 
11:33 AM
I scrolled like a kilometer but in vain
nah, I give up
 
1 message moved to Trash
 
lol
 
omg, I give up
 
you should just close this tab
 
lol
for real?
 
off i go to play some comp
 
DateTime::add does only care about backward DST transition, not forward – #75167
 
@JoeWatkins What's up, Joe?
 
@tereško Please send me a paragraph about yourself and one or more ways to "contact with you". We're creating "about us" page of the project and I will mention you as code-reviewer.
 
Anonymous
11:48 AM
1 message moved to Trash can
 
Anonymous
@bwoebi he sucks.
 
@Shafizadeh I don't think it would be appropriate, since I have actually done very little reviewing :(
 
@tereško What you've done doesn't matter that much, I'm trying to magnify the number of project's members.
 
hehe
 
11:51 AM
you can use my email address then
 
and your stackoverflow account?
 
sure
 
Ok, just please give me a paragraph about yourself (or what you like to describe you)
Noted that "I probably hate you" is not acceptable
 
@Shafizadeh cant you just make something up?
I am really bad at writing anything resembling "cover letter"
 
> Credits to @tereško for the brutal critique and helpful insults hurled
4
 
11:55 AM
@Gordon based on previous observations - it produces quite good long-term results
 
No ..! no hurry, send me only one paragraph about yourself. that paragraph can answer these:
- What's your name and where are you living?
- What are you interest in?
- When did you start programming?
- Why you're in our team and why you love us? :)
- What kind of tasks have you done in our project (the answer is code-reviewing)
 
- riga
- music, gaming, literature ... occasionally programming
- 15
- I got scammed
:P
 
o/
 
@tereško Ok, now please just rewrite your last answer :-)
 
12:02 PM
will "I was really bored" do better?
especially, since I never actually was part of any "team" =)
 
Anonymous
@Shafizadeh please include Laravel, Flat Earth Society and people in his interests. I will pay you.
 
:-) ..! No! You should say something like "this team is great and it's honor of me to be one of the members. I'm sure this project receive lots of nice feedbacks and will be famous, since it has amazing policies and a thoughtful business plan"
@JayIsTooCommon hahaah
 
Morgen 11
 
Anonymous
o/
 
12:08 PM
o/
Goedemorgen
 
morgen o/
 
Dutch is...interesting
 
:P
 
I get why someone in here said it's a made up language now
 
Sorry
 
12:13 PM
like Tot ziens
wat
and the word for I think please and thank you
 
Yeah those words became weird during the time
 
alsjeblieft
like wat
I might give up on dutch and go to swedish
 
Anonymous
@Tiffany did you spill coffee on your keyboard?
 
@JayIsTooCommon that's the Dutch word for "please"
 
Anonymous
huh, i've probably typed please a lot while head butting my keyboard
 
Anonymous
12:23 PM
hold on, i'll try and do thank you with a head but
 
Anonymous
kbuahfksf
 
Anonymous
close
 
sdfjlsdk
 
I don't understand CGI
 
Unexpected PHP Warning Node no longer exists – #75168
 
12:37 PM
It's simply a program to handle data submitted by the user?
 
12:49 PM
cc @tereško ^ click the green blurb
 
@PeeHaa nothing seems to work on that page
 
?
 
@PeeHaa lol, the cringe
I don't think that much troll should be allowed from one reporter
 
Obviously infowars are utter weirdos at best but that is just so fucking funny :D
 
 // Get extension.
$extension = end($filename);
 
12:57 PM
their pricing is interesting^
 
@Danack Why are you reading this code?
 
@NikiC it's a really nice Javascript HTML editor.......but their PHP 'library' needs more fire.
 
s/fire/napalm
?
 
that GOT green stuff.
 
:D
 
1:08 PM
@Danack wildfire
/getitright
 
/hewasntwrongthough
:P
 
meh, GOT
 
Not actually made from dragons.
"I can't believe it's not dragon fire."
 
actually, it's wildfire @Jimbo
 
1 min ago, by Jimbo
/getitright
 
1:10 PM
#Muphry'sLaw
 
That's what I said
/me hides
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Murphy?
 
granted, that's not an exact use, but I feel it goes with the spirit
 
Usually this law stops me criticising anything as I know I'll put something criticisable
In this case it was Danack so I gave no shits
:D
 
let's awkward silence @Jimbo's ass
 
1:14 PM
hah
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier must be natural not planned ;)
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier TIL
 
also, on a side note, the comp matches were so bad today. leavers, blizzard server errors, map reinstances, pro hanzo's... FML
@PeeHaa wait. you haven't seen interstellar then?
 
I have
Why?
 
1:16 PM
murphy's law is like mentioned in the first half an hour...
 
if using mysqli->prepare, is the result set classed as unbuffered or buffered?
 
@Saitama ...
 
@Saitama you're an idiot you know that right?
 
@WillParky93 depends on connection parameters
 
1:17 PM
y tho?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier would ->query always be classed as buffered?
 
I will let you find out for yourself
 
52 secs ago, by Félix Gagnon-Grenier
@WillParky93 depends on connection parameters
 
Ok thanks
 
okay.... so you said TIL to that murphy's law wiki page which Felix posted
 
1:18 PM
muphry's *
 
@Saitama not murphy's law, muphry's law
 
ah god
im closing this tab right now
'lata boys
 
:P
 
1:20 PM
it's 9:19, the open space office is quiet as an 80 yo nun's genitals, and I'm head banging over Octavarium, to the dismayed looks of the colleagues. My life is average.
 
I have an extra semicolon somewhere and I don't know where... this is annoying
 
man.... I'm so cringing rn...
 
I am trying to find out why cpu usage is high
 
@Gordon because you trying to watch hentai on it?
 
@Saitama it's a remote system. so it's probably yours
 
1:29 PM
@PeeHaa the "new generation" from inforwars is actually entertaining
I just can't spare much time to enjoy them
I think the sad part is that the "left" has forgotten how to be funny :(
 
hmmm maybe I should go find some more fun stuff
@tereško Well they always mostly have been sour
 
@PeeHaa naah. Remember the old Daily Show?
 
heh asp mvc is as ugly as codeigniter
 
@RonniSkansing but with more enterprise frameworks
 
1:33 PM
@tereško true
 
@PeeHaa it might actually be that the Overton window has shifted so far, that the funny people are no longer considered to be on the left end of the accepted spectrum
 
@Tiffany thats nothing compared to an infinite loop writing data to your session... and the only thing I wanted was to remotely connect but then I had to ask why I can't connect... -.-'
 
Anonymous
> you like kissing ugly woman?
 
Anonymous
quality
 
:D
 
1:38 PM
that thing was hilarious...
 
@floGalen the annoying part is I have to use vim, and while it has syntax highlighting, vanilla vim can't track semicolons
and it's PL/SQL
 
Are extra semicolons an issue in plsql?
Isn't it just an empty statement?
 
PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol ";" when expecting one of the following:
so either extra semicolon, or I'm missing something somewhere
and this code is such a mess
 
What are the offending lines
 
I found it
 
1:44 PM
\o/
 
and more errors
 
that guy at 8:21 tho..
 
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