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2:00 PM
lol
 
always relevant
:D
 
@JayIsTooCommon yes, we do.
 
oh, it changed between alpha1 and alpha2
 
Anonymous
@FélixGagnon-Grenier don't be silly.
 
but that's my trademark
 
2:04 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier i can't recognize the canadian accent yet, but i can recognize canadian youtubers when they wear banffindiantradingpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/…
god they are so sexy :D
 
@WesStark ermagad
a friend of my dad actually used to make the original of those, actual mocassins, native americans footwear. solid shoes
 
ahahah
 
not very suited to nowadays concrete, but you want nothing else in the woods
 
i knew you would be related to that in some way
 
you. you. you little wolfy.
 
2:10 PM
:B
 
> Docker for Windows requires 64bit Windows 10 Pro and Microsoft Hyper-V.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier what are the soles made out of?
 
Anonymous
@IROEGBU Moose souls
 
@IROEGBU in the picture, or the traditional thing? the former, I guess rubber, the latter, actual leather
sometimes it would be doubled, but it was the same material as the rest of the shoe
 
Moose are soulless
 
but meh mooses
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Was just wondering, I have one and it's sole is rubber
 
@IROEGBU nice :)
 
Every time I've seen a moose they were causing an autocrash
 
2:14 PM
@WesStark lol wtf
never heard of that
 
it's an italian song :B people here used to emigrate to us and canada
 
> Your organization's policy prohibits access to websites categorized as Proxies & Translators.
Wat. What a very strange policy
 
It's not
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier youtube.com/watch?v=p7ycObTdROA it's 60 years old
 
translators can also be used as proxies @Sean
 
2:17 PM
@WesStark lol, I read the italian part, imagining you gesticulating fast, but slowly when the sentence is more graceful. what an image.
 
Oh yeah, true
 
i.e. translators that do: pass me a url and I will show the translated page
 
ahahah
cc @rlemon
 
> dove giraaaaaaaando va
 
Anonymous
!!wotd
 
2:18 PM
divagate: to wander; stray.
 
what?
 
@WesStark do you intend to use this as logo?
 
Anonymous
@Jeeves booo
 
it is a strange song, sounds happy, but stuff is set on fire
 
@samayo screams don't scare me like that!
 
2:19 PM
@IROEGBU it's jeeves.
 
Might turn out better than the squid
 
@WesStark and rebuilt. it's a phoenix!
 
Anonymous
@Jeeves liar
 
@samayo I'm not lying.
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa think it's worth posting github.com/Room-11/Jeeves/issues around ze web to try and get contribs on board? "Want to get your OS contribs up with decent reviews? do our work for us!"
 
Anonymous
2:19 PM
@Jeeves Where do you take your vacations?
 
@samayo I don't have one.
 
Anonymous
@Jeeves Why?
 
@samayo Because I don't like them.
 
the squid thing will oppress me till i am in a coffin, am i right?
 
Anonymous
@Jeeves Try it. it's great!
 
2:20 PM
@samayo What is your favorite beer?
 
@WesStark probably after too, actually
until the next best thing™
 
@JayIsTooCommon You can do whatever you want, but I'm not sure that's the best project for things like that
 
imgur.com/a/XFYpb @IROEGBU when we'll tweet things on jeeves' twitter account, they will appear in the balloon. joe's idea
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa it's a bit specific i guess
 
Anonymous
What kind of AI algo is @Jeeves using? Those first responses were top
 
2:21 PM
Yea
 
Anonymous
don't want it to go stale though
 
@samayo Do you think I am unique?
 
@WesStark I love the idea cc @Joe
 
@JayIsTooCommon It really has to come out of here
Not because I don't want other people on it obviously, but it makes more sense
 
if you love the idea ask repeatedly @JayIsTooCommon to do the php tweet thing
 
2:23 PM
evenin
 
o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
Anonymous
2:23 PM
o/
 
Anonymous
c-c-c-
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom ping
 
Anonymous
ban him!!
 
I kinda love you @kelunik github.com/amphp/phpunit-util
 
Anonymous
can we all ping chris please? his absence isn't acceptable.
 
2:24 PM
@DaveRandom
 
@DaveRandom
 
Let me also text him
 
@Linus i found that, but it uses Doctrine annotations... i need something that doesn't depend on doctrine
 
And twitter dm
 
2:24 PM
@DaveRandom
 
@DaveRandom
 
I'm not exactly sure @DaveRandom got our message yet
 
@_DaveRandom ping
 
Anonymous
lol
 
2:26 PM
hehe
 
@PeeHaa Recursive pings. I like it
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Boo! The message exceeds the 140 character limit. :-(
 
Anonymous
seriously, what the hell is the diff b/n git pull and git fetch && git merge origin/master ?
 
2:29 PM
!!tweet https://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/37907483#37907483
 
bah
@PeeHaa that anti drunk tweet stuff was implemented or not?
 
Nope
 
user1804599
Does Jeeves like CakePHP?
 
It involves me resetting the account's password to get in and manually delete it
 
oh well. one more polluting tweet. I'm sorry. actually... I'm really not.
 
user1804599
2:31 PM
I heard elephants are afraid of bees.
 
hm phpstorm developed another issue, when i cut paste a method it fucks up the indentation in phpdocs (i align the parameters by column)
 
Anonymous
2 mins ago, by samayo
seriously, what the hell is the diff b/n git pull and git fetch && git merge origin/master ?
 
Anonymous
I will ask it a 1000 times
 
one of those is used by pros
 
Anonymous
and a 1000 more
 
Anonymous
2:32 PM
and more
 
user1804599
Closed as duplicate.
 
Ok sry, pull is really just a shortcut
It does fetch and merge
And I don't like it
I won't let a computer process decide for me when and how my branches are merged
 
Anonymous
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I don't it's just a short cut. Some time ago, a senior dev said pull was bad, really bad and to avoid it in favor of fetch & merge
 
@PeeHaa kinda? :P
 
Anonymous
@rightfold No, definitely not.
 
2:34 PM
@samayo it really is just a shortcut
And it's bad because it lets you do errors much easier
 
@kelunik Let's not take it too far just yet :P
 
@samayo Fetch can get the status of your branches as well. So let's say someone does a pull request and it gets merged and deleted from GH. Fetch can update the list of branches on
 
It also lets you continue not understanding what you do
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa @kelunik yes. lets not.
 
:D
 
2:36 PM
@kelunik His heart still belongs to Daniel Lowery
 
Anonymous
aw, you spelt Jay wrong. Cute
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom ping.
 
@Machavity I thought pull literally executed a fetch --all prior to merging
 
!!annoy daverandom
 
@DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom @DaveRandom hi
 
2:38 PM
@Machavity btw, where has he gone?
 
/* Article nesting :p */
article article, article article article article, article article article article article article {
    background-color: #f9fafb;
}
article article article, article article article article article, article article article article     article article article {
    background-color: white;
}
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Ah, pull does have the prune option as well. TIL
 
Lol externals.io css
 
@tereško To that great repository in the sky Grovo last I heard
 
@Sean I wonder whether it is actually used code, or was it added just to give an aneurysm to one of those filthy frontend developers
 
2:41 PM
@Sean sigh
probably generated with some css preprocessor
 
even more sigh
 
@Sean Could be worse. Could be BEM
 
Which, weirdly enough, is being pulled into the browser, then converted into CSS using less.min.js
 
i did some very complex layouts... i never needed that stuff, nor css preprocessors...
 
2:42 PM
The stylesheet is 6K, less.js is 66K :V
@PeeHaa I kinda liked writing with BEM in the stylesheet, not in the html though
That got very ugly very quickly
 
@Sean You are dead to me
 
Hahahah
 
Anonymous
dun dun dun, another one bites the dust
 
you'll be happy to know I haven't used it in a long time
 
another one down another one down
 
2:44 PM
I opt for the far superior method of giving every element it's own ID
 
I opt for the far superior method of giving every element it's own ID
 
that's far more sensible than bem
 
@bwoebi FYI, I got Assertion loop->watchers[w->fd] == w when trying to run the amphp/mysql tests with UvDriver.
 
a microwave oven https://t.co/qTuHfJWVQh
 
2:46 PM
Dude, the shit that gets said in this room. I can but imagine the hell that must be the PHP Facebook group
 
@bwoebi I think that lib could benefit from using the new socket lib rather than watchers. Probably would be a lot easier to maintain. It's a bit hard to follow as-is.
 
Anonymous
We should start getting people on board for NW early, try and beat the previous 11
 
Anonymous
@FélixGagnon-Grenier ^ NW, just a short flight.
 
@JayIsTooCommon when? I have to remake my passport
 
Anonymous
remake huh, sounds legit
 
2:50 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I don't think the UK does tree bark passports
 
Anonymous
@pmmaga you're still going, right?
 
Anonymous
fuck, I just spent 1.5k on a holiday and I'm still planning things.
 
lol, you guys
I mean like, it's been expired for six years, and I have to extra prove that I'm myself
ok. this is it. my limit. when my moustache is dripping in my coffee, it's fucking time I shave.
5
brb.
 
Anonymous
actually laughed.
 
2:53 PM
lol
 
@JayIsTooCommon do you participate in the conference?
 
Anonymous
@Shafizadeh umm, morally I do? If I wasn't there, no one would be happy. But as for speaking, nooo I'm too experienced for the crowd there.
 
ah :-)
 
Hackathon? Y/N?
 
Anonymous
they'll probably get an amateur like @NikiC to speak
 
2:55 PM
how many dollar is £170.00 ?
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa ^ help @Shafizadeh :)
 
about 200
 
!!issue !!convert Plugin pls :)
 
@tereško oh .. that's too much for a conference
 
2:56 PM
you would need at least the same amount for other expenses
 
yes .. so is devoting about 500$ for a conference reasonable?
 
of course you could do what I do and watch them on youtube.com/user/phpnwconference
 
I pay it for the booze not the conf
 
how many hours/days it long?
 
Anonymous
^^
 
2:58 PM
/me can't afford to spend €500 on a conference
 
will it be held in which country?
 
Anonymous
UK
 
good ..! I guess having a travel to UK is worthy :-)
 
It's in manchester, so don't forget to take your mandatory body armor and photocopy of your will
 
Anonymous
Yes, 9 x 10 you'll be stabbed
 
Anonymous
3:01 PM
/cc @DaveRandom ping.
 
@Shafizadeh * in which country will the conference be held?
 
* what
 
@WesStark thx for the correction
Also is this sentence correct? (English Perspective)
> how many hours/days it long?
 
How many hours / days is it?
 
ah ok thx
 
3:03 PM
how many days does it last, i think is also correct
 
or How long is it in hours / days?
Bloody English
 
Anonymous
The most natural with context is just "How long is it?"
 
@Sean Have you traveled to manchester already? Is that a beautiful city?
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa knows that sentence far too well.
 
@Shafizadeh Went last year ^^
 
3:03 PM
@Sean thx
 
aaaaaahhhh.... feels refreshed
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier what did you do which given you this fresh feeling?
 
He milked a moose
 
listened to the game of thrones theme for hours now, i'm starting to see white walkers hiding in my code
15 moar days
 
Anonymous
!!? How to milk a moose?
2
 
3:07 PM
Search for "Can you milk mooses?" (https://www.google.com/search?q=Can+you+milk+mooses%3F&lr=lang_en)
• Moose milk - Wikipedia - Moose milk, also known as elk milk, refers to milk produced by moose (Alces alces). Though it … Moo… (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose_milk)
• Moose juice: an alternative to cow's milk? - YouT… - Domesticating the moose was never going to be easy. But an experiment at … I wish that I can drink… (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJkqG4IXuaw)
• Moose Milking in Russia - Modern Farmer - 30 apr. 2014 - Maybe you should head over to the Russian city of Kostroma – abo
Search for "How to milk a moose?" (https://www.google.com/search?q=How+to+milk+a+moose%3F&lr=lang_en)
• Moose juice: an alternative to cow's milk? - YouT… - Domesticating the moose was never going to be easy. But an experiment at a Russian farm 400 kilomet… (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJkqG4IXuaw)
• Moose milk - Wikipedia - Moose milk, also known as elk milk, refers to milk produced by moose (Alces alces). Though it is mo… (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose_milk)
• Moose Milking in Russia - Modern Farmer - 30 apr. 2014 - Maybe you should head over to the Russian city of Kostroma – ab
 
!!? How to milk a moose?
 
Well this is an interesting time to catch up on the chat.
 
ahaha
 
3:09 PM
@Shafizadeh I milked a yuuge moose, with gloves made from hair from my canadian beard
 
@PeeHaa you rang?
 
HE LIVES
 
debatable
 
@JayIsTooCommon ^^^^
 
3:11 PM
 
I think @JayIsTooCommon misses you @DaveRandom
!!afk applying water to skin
 
!!should i get a coffee or sleep tonight
 
You should sleep tonight.
 
choice is hard. i'm having a good coding moment
 
3:12 PM
I can't wait to take a shower. I've had something called a Halter monitor on me the past...close to 43 hours now. Basically an extended EKG.
 
on the other hand, i would like to sleep
 
u sick @Jeeves? When did you started answering reasonable stuff?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier When I was young, like one year old.
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom You don't give me any attention anymore.
 
Anonymous
Is it someone else?
 
3:13 PM
his wife perhaps
 
@Jeeves is jay dave's mistress?
 
@WesStark You are demoniac?
 
wat
back to answering incoherently
 
@JayIsTooCommon tbf I haven't given anyone any attention for like 3 weeks
how may I service you today?
 
Anonymous
I'm not just anyone.
 
3:16 PM
you're... everyone?
 
I have 2 php files in my root directory (home.php, and about-us.php). Both files have a line <img src="assets/images/img1.png">. home.php displays the image (whos full file path is myurl.com/assets/image/img1.png, howevery about-us.php displays no image - instead searching for myurl.com/about-us/assets/image/img1.png... What decides the default (maybe called working directory, idk terminology) where the image is searched for?
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom me and the italian were going to have a crack at !!quote, do you mind or do you want to?
 
@MatthewSirkin links to your public assets should begin with a forward slash /
 
@JayIsTooCommon no go for it, I only said I would because every seemed to assume I would and I do have some relevant C# codez that I could base it on, but I have no actual desire to do it. Quite the opposite in fact.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I did that and it worked, but why does it work in my home.php file without a /?
 
3:19 PM
Actually I also have some relevant PHP/gd codez but not with the box size calculation stuff
 
because the relative path is also sometimes good
but it's not reliable
 
Anonymous
Cool. Well i'll do the skeleton logic and give you a ping if/when it gets difficult
 
btw @JayIsTooCommon it should support gd if at all possible, although I have no issue with having an structure where you can have multiple back-ends and it will use imagick if available
 
Anonymous
/ cc @WesStark
 
so what decides whether or not the relative path will happen to work? I'll use the / to refer to the root - but I dont understand the difference between my 2 files. They are both saved in the same place and yet 1 works and 1 doesnt?
 
3:21 PM
if you do start wandering around through imagick, don't forget that @Danack is looking for help maintaining the project
 
I need to finish his talk
I'm looking for things to do since I've finished my project, and can't do anything with it for two weeks.
 
the only hard thing is the text wrapping, but i imagine that's done already by imagick/gd, right
 
@MatthewSirkin my understanding is that relative urls will start from the active url (like / or /about-us). in the / case, it will be good, but in the case of /about-us, the file does not exist
 
like, you define a box and it distributes the text on multiple lines automatically, with center justify etc
 
I'd definitely be looking at creating a separate lib here @JayIsTooCommon @WesStark (one where you can give it an image, some text, a bounding box and a font and it will draw it for you). Also worth noting that there's likely one of those on packgist already.
 
3:23 PM
using / with the image path, forces it to actually start at public root @MatthewSirkin
 
^ premature generalization
 
@WesStark no I don't think it has alignment stuff built in
moment
 
Anonymous
Alright, sounds fun. @WesStark you must be excited to work with me.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier oh oh, thats definitely the reason. It's because my home.php file is being used for the home page, where as the about-us.php file is being used for myurl.com/about-us That makes sense
Except that I don't understand why the template I bought would ever create the HTML like that.. why wouldnt they just put in /s for me...
 
I will not try and answer that ;)
 
3:25 PM
Thanks for the help though @FélixGagnon-Grenier really appreciate it
 
hello guys
how can i calculate the date/time from a variable that contains seconds. So im given for example 500 seconds, i need to know what the data/time will be in 500 seconds?
 
use math
500 / 60
or do you mean the time it will be after 500 seconds is applied?
there's probably a PHP class that does it
 
or maybe something like new Datetime()->add(new DateInterval('500s'))
 
Evenings lads
 
3:31 PM
$a = 0;
$a = 1; -- is this either override or overwrite ?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier PT500S
 
such a pity
 
:B
 
but yeah, thanks, I am not so fluent with the date classes :)
 
@MartinAJ overwrite
override implies you can still access the original one, at least this is my interpretation
 
Anonymous
3:33 PM
@WesStark I said, you must be excited to work with me.
 
@WesStark merci
 
@JayIsTooCommon already caused me anxiety
 
@WesStark use those fidget spinners
the ones that the cool kids use
 
its like every guy in my school has one of those
its so autistic
 
3:38 PM
@JayIsTooCommon @WesStark you might find some useful stuff in bitbucket.org/DaveRandom/fight/src/…
 
Anonymous
@Kurisu coming from the Anime fan
 
which, btw is a think which generates these:
 
@JayIsTooCommon lol. I literally was about to say something like that
 
@JayIsTooCommon ANIME IS NOT AUTISTIC, ITS AN ART
 
stahp
 
3:38 PM
@Ekin HAMMERTIME!
 
TENTACLES ARE ART
 
ART ARE TENTACLES?
 
LET ME REPHRASE THAT, TENTACLES ARE A FORM OF ART
 
COMPARED TO Y'ALL F1 PEASANTS
 
3:40 PM
@WesStark @JayIsTooCommon ^^
 
hi all, first time in stackoverflow chat
 
lol. we're not always like that
 
@Joyal do you like animes?
 
@Kurisu yes
 
3:41 PM
@Kurisu don't scare him/her..
 
@Joyal fyi Friday is a bad day to come in here the first time
or a good day, depends how you look at it
 
oh really ?
 
if you want use relevant conversation, Friday not a good day
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom ok nice, that should be a decent template to go off /@WesStark
 
@Joyal then we can be the bestest of friends
 
3:41 PM
@Kurisu sure
 
@DaveRandom not enough material design
 
it's very WIP
 
oh, another thing... do you like tentacles?
 
!!urban wip
 
[ wip ] Work In Progress
 
3:42 PM
@JayIsTooCommon your avatar is so bland
 
tentacles what is that :(
 
However it does have some useful graphics primitives in it an a nicer-ish OO wrapper around GD
 
Anonymous
@WesStark Like your personality.
 
@JayIsTooCommon OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
/me cries
 
3:43 PM
that might need a tissue
 
Anonymous
love you.
 
indeed
 
@Joyal they are the holy arms of god
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom Well might spam you a bit for help when it comes to the good bit, if that's alright. Will see how far we can get.
 
@WesStark /me gives tissue
 
3:43 PM
@Kurisu lovely
 
@JayIsTooCommon fyi the plan is to expand heavily on the Graphics folder and libify it
 
@Kurisu get a room

Anime Programming Language

Tentacles are our jesus, we thrive for anime plots.
 
@WesStark aww you created it for me.... thanks love
 
Anonymous
@WesStark thoughts on the above?
 
libify strangely sounds like lubify, and is kinda related
 
3:47 PM
@JayIsTooCommon did you just ask me about programming?
 
is there a list of room's bookmark? or one just have to bookmark the url?
 
Anonymous
@WesStark yeah good point
 
nice, gratie
 
3:50 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier aww, I can relate to a eroge-anime I watched like an hour ago
 
bookmarking the bookmarked conversations feels very meta
 
user1804599
what happened to cv-pls.com
 
so fucked it up
 
user1804599
:'(
 
mind blown
 
3:53 PM
wat?
 
no?
 
kurisu =
 
nvm...
 
oh... you'd never know
 
Anonymous
1 message moved to Trash can
 
3:54 PM
I think Jay, and samayo know it
11 hours ago, by Kurisu
this is ro abuse!
it was just kurisu drinking dr. pepper
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom thanks again Chris. If I get a chance, i'll start tonight.
 
yo, bitches
 
such ro abuse ;)
yo Joe
 
Anonymous
hey joe
 
3:59 PM
o/
 

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