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6:00 AM
good morning
 
gm
 
^ Did we just get a 5th voter?
 
haha yeah
 
@AlexanderO'Mara successfully duped
@tripleee If you already flagged it, what are we supposed to do with it?
 
6:03 AM
@tripleee bounty
 
More mod flags don't mean it gets reviewed faster
 
no but it will get picked up for the cv-pls queue and eventually we will be able to cv
 
user4639281
Usually if you mod-flag a bounty question for closure, the mod will close it if they refund the bounty
 
^ What tiny said
 
user3956566
@tripleee did you mod flag?
 
user3956566
6:05 AM
@JAL and I are known for our mod flags on bounty questions (and them being declined) ;)
 
@Yvette yes, I did
@TinyGiant oh, good to know, thanks!
 
user3956566
@tripleee ok I won't mod flag, it's true the extra mod flags won't get it reviewed any quicker, I suggest keep it bookmarked and put in a cls pls request if it reopens ;)
 
should this question be marked dup of NPE stackoverflow.com/questions/39199352/…
 
user3956566
@ColdFire no lack of mvce
 
user3956566
6:10 AM
@AlexanderO'Mara I got confused, cos @tripleee k'ed me! lol
 
@ColdFire already reported abvoe
@Yvette pesky chat window scrolled just as I clicked
 
@tripleee oki
 
user3956566
@tripleee lol
 
hey @TinyGiant
Its nice to see you around here more :)
 
user3956566
@ColdFire re that android question, when they dump in a stacktrace like that, I prefer the lack of mvce, rather than duplicate
 
user4639281
6:12 AM
Have been making an effort
 
@Yvette oki
 
user3956566
very nice ;)
 
user3956566
and you are making me keen to use the dark script again
 
user4639281
Lol
 
user4639281
6:15 AM
It doesn't work in firefox anymore because Mozilla makes stupid decisions
 
user4639281
All of the fieldsets will be collapsible, so once you get your settings set, you can just review, no need for unnecessary distractions
 
@TinyGiant I've found Mozilla to be the most stringent about the spec to be honest.
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara Well, if you put any kind of filter or transform on anything that is positioned anything other than absolute or static, it becomes absolutely positioned
 
user4639281
Because that totally makes sense
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant I'm chrome, I gave into google's intrusive lack of respect for privacy
 
user4639281
6:18 AM
I want to change the color of something using a filter, and that means that it must be positioned absolutely
 
user4639281
@Yvette Vivaldi, it's basically chrome, without all the google
 
user4639281
And the interface is written in HTML, CSS, and JS
 
user4639281
it runs on node.js
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant but I kinda get a kink on with all that privacy violation ;)
 
user4639281
lol
 
6:20 AM
@TinyGiant Cannot reproduce.
 
user4639281
I can, did it in a jsfiddle the other day. Too busy rewriting a review tool at the moment
 
user4639281
Position something fixed, then run a filter on the parent
 
user4639281
the fixed position element becomes absolute
 
Hey tiny
 
user4639281
Yeah?
 
6:21 AM
Your thing checker has found semi-wide adoption in the past months
 
github.com/Charcoal-SE/metasmoke/wiki/API-Documentation says ping a metasmoke admin - who are they?
 
user4639281
@Magisch oh yeah?
 
user4639281
@tripleee undo and programfox I believe
 
@TinyGiant thanks!
 
@tripleee ArtOfCode, Programfox or Undo
@TinyGiant yeah
 
6:23 AM
@ProgramFOX I'd like an API key for metasmoke as per the doc above ^
 
user4639281
@Magisch Do you have a reference to back that claim up?
 
@tripleee /cc @Undo @ArtOfCode
I can't do that so I have to ping them.
 
@TinyGiant I've just heard a fair amount of people talking about it
 
@ProgramFOX okay, noted -- do you need anything more from me in order to proceed?
 
6:23 AM
with semi wide I mean like 10-15 people
 
@tripleee I don't think so. Undo or ArtOfCode will let you know if they do.
 
@ProgramFOX thanks ... so they just ping me in chat in order to deliver it, or what?
 
As long as you're semi-established here I don't think undo will have problems giving you a key
 
@tripleee Probably not if it's private. They might ask your email, I don't know.
 
@Magisch that's what I'm hoping too, but if it's supposed to be personal, we need a secure channel for delivering it
@ProgramFOX thanks, standing by
 
6:25 AM
He may or may not ask you for an email adress
no clue
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara jsfiddle.net/9Lhgbyrb/2
 
user4639281
In chrome it is fixed to the bottom of the window, firefox it is absolutely at the bottom of the page. Remove the filter, fixed as normal
 
Just made one to reproduce it: jsfiddle.net/nxmmva8k
 
user4639281
@Magisch 10-15 people doesn't seem to be a whole lot of people
 
@TinyGiant Is the thing supposed to be a secret anyways?
 
user4639281
6:27 AM
No
 
You could put it on stack apps as a proof of concept
 
user4639281
It isn't meant to be used, hence the disclaimer
 
user4639281
It's meant to be obfuscated
 
user4639281
not easy to find
 
user4639281
but accessible if necessary
 
6:28 AM
What purpose was it for anyways
just to see if you could do it?
 
user4639281
Yeah
 
There's probably other things that do the same, too
 
user4639281
I was hacking stuff, and saw how it could be done, so I did it
 
user4639281
Not the same way as mine does it, everything else just guesses
 
You're just reading an ajax tag, aren't you?
 
6:29 AM
@TinyGiant Comments here suggest Gecko is correct, if perhaps not ideal for all uses: stackoverflow.com/questions/37949942/…
 
user4639281
Mine knows for a fact whether a review task is an audit or not because it uses the isAudit flag from the ajax response
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara comments are wrong
 
user4639281
A filter should not change positioning
 
user4639281
neither should a transform, which also does
 
@TinyGiant Yeah but scraping part of the ajax response is sort of not that hard isn't it?
I'm learning php/html/css/js thats why this is interesting to me
:p
 
user4639281
6:31 AM
@Magisch No it isn't, just not a well known thing
 
As long as nobody announces that somewhere it won't be, no
And I'm pretty sure SE staff would not take kindly to that.
 
user4639281
If you put information out in the open, you shouldn't expect it to be private
 
user4639281
If they don't want people using that information, they shouldn't be providing it
 
user4639281
I know a lot of things that a lot of people don't know about SE because they haven't bothered to look
 
Its probably one of those "Its not really a secret but we'd appreciate if you wouldn't broadcast it to the world" kind of things
 
user4639281
6:33 AM
Which is why I have obscured it as much as I have, and included the disclaimer about its use
 
Although a tag in the ajax response is pretty much very obvious if you think about it
 
@SmokeDetector sd k
 
@ColdFire Thats not how that works
If you respond directly the sd prefix is unnecessary
 
@Magisch then just sd k
ohh i see
 
And its not a k either
Its disclosed
 
6:35 AM
well why it isnt a k it has a link?
 
user4639281
Affiliation disclosed
 
ohh yeah ok
 
user4639281
Downvote if you like, don't spam flag
 
well i wasnt spamming flag you know
 
@TinyGiant You sure? bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1187851#c4 Was it changed again?
 
user4639281
6:39 AM
In whatever build I'm using, it ain't right
 
user3956566
Please close this question -> spam seed stackoverflow.com/a/39199872/3956566
 
@Yvette disputed above^^
same answer
 
user3956566
yes, it is a spam seed question to legitimise the spam answer - intentional or otherwise
 
well i was advised to not spam flags
:(
 
user3956566
@ColdFire yes, take under advisement.
 
user3956566
6:45 AM
We don't flag or vote as a group, we use our individual discretion, this is important in a room such as this.
 
@Yvette didnt get you
 
user3956566
@rene can you create and pin a post like above ^^ and also we don't need the pinned post to close on godaddy, just delete now
 
user3956566
@ColdFire it's good to listen to advice
 
@Yvette well i was not spamming flags you know
 
Morning \o
 
user3956566
6:51 AM
\o
 
user4639281
Dec 7 '15 at 7:17, by Tiny Giant
Ok, in here every moderation request you see is a request to review the moderation action being taken. That is not for you to jump on and blindly do as you're told. We are not a voting gang. We are all usually wrong at some point. If you don't want to review every request to the best of your ability then you are not actually helping our goal.
 
user4639281
Something like that?
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant yeh but less wordy
 
@Yvette I remember that you made a meta question on spam flags, can you share it to me so that I can read.. tnx :)
 
6:57 AM
thanks again.
 
user3956566
@Enzokie ;)
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis I think it needs to be closed again, and I did just so.
Hiya o/
 
Hiya o/
 
user4639281
Hiya o/
 
Hiya o/
 
user3956566
7:01 AM
g'day train wrecker strikes again ;)
 
train wrecked
@Yvette damn
 
Hey tuna
Hey @Enzokie
 
user3956566
mwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cough splutter sigh
 
@Magisch hello :)
 
user4639281
 
7:02 AM
Plop again
 
@Kyll plop :)
 
Hey @Kyll
 
Woah, isn't it like 3am for you Tiny?
 
My favorite armored rodent :)
 
@Enzokie I saw you recently discovered the Plop. Welcome home =D
 
7:03 AM
@Kyll blob
 
user4639281
@Kyll 12:03 am
 
user3956566
that stinky rodent is here again tosses @Kyll out the window
 
@TinyGiant Really? You must be far off west then
 
user4639281
I did say I was making an effort
 
user3956566
@Kyll you think it's 3am anywhere that isn't where you are sigh
 
user4639281
7:04 AM
@Kyll Actually off the west coast, on the big island beside the west coast
 
@Yvette Isn't it tea time for you?
@TinyGiant Ah, nice
 
user3956566
@Kyll I don't drink tea slaps rodent with @tuna fish
 
I like kyll
Kyll is nice
 
user4639281
Kyll is the best
 
A friend who is shifting his house asked me if I knew some company that would help him in "packing and moving" his things.. I told him to look at stackoverflow.com/search?q=movers+and+packers+deleted%3Aall
:P
 
7:07 AM
@TheLostMind I read the start of this sentence really wrong xD
 
:D
 
@TinyGiant Nah, you have the best Magicâ„¢
 
@TheLostMind lol
 
user4639281
@Kyll lol
 
@TheLostMind In all actuality though, if I was actually looking for packers and movers in bangalore, I would certainly not chose a company that feels the need to spam on SO
 
user3956566
7:08 AM
@TheLostMind bahahahaha that is hilarious
 
@Kyll - lol. really?
@Magisch - Meh. Many people working for big MNCs (specifically IT) need to shift their houses :P
 
Muahaha
We sniped even TLM
 
@Yvette - :P
Mod gets ninja'd when trying to remove spam
6
What is happening to this world?
 
It's teh SOCVR effect
@TLM\o
 
Some of my modflags from friday are still pending
I am disappoint
 
user4639281
7:12 AM
Hey, I've had mod flags take up to two months to be processed
 
user4639281
I happen to be overly controversial at times tho
 
The vast majority of mod flags I put out get handled in less then 2 hours
I especially like to hunt down plagiarists
 
i have some dating back years
 
@Magisch I feel like the average is like a week for a custom mod flag to get handled.
 
@Magisch You're basically Brad Larson's breakfast provider then
 
7:15 AM
@TheLostMind lol
 
@Kyll - \o
 
@Kyll I feed on exposing frauds :D
 
We are trying to do our best. Honestly, I've been spending less time handling flags since a few days now. Will start handling more after a few days
 
Plop TLM =D
 
@TheLostMind It wasn't a criticism towards you guys, more a bit tongue & cheek
It doesn't really matter how long my flags take in the end, they don't age away.
 
7:18 AM
:).. bbl..
 
Meh..
 
Meeeeeeeeeeh........
 
let the mods have a holiday. Flag starting in October
 
@Tunaki What, you don't want any request in the chat? Here's one more.
 
7:33 AM
@Kyll which one?
 
@Tunaki That one
(Thanks ankit)
 
and boomed the question is gone
 
f for me
 
Srini Infotech Pvt Ltd
www.sriniinfotech.com/
This site may be hacked.
 
user4639281
7:38 AM
i'd say f
 
google.in shows
 
Its a blog of the poster
Probably an innocent signature with link as people use in so many forums
I left a comment
 
@Magisch link?
 
@ColdFire Many, many people use signatures like by <Name> see <my Blog> in forums
 
ok got it
btw isnt the question offtopic?
 
7:42 AM
@Queen f
@Queen k found a better one dear
@Queen k
that is spam, copy-paste and the link is not formatted
 
@Tunaki failed spam, but spam nevertheless
 
haha yes spam
 
7:58 AM
@ColdFire Editing
 
@ColdFire Looks on topic to me. I have edited out the noise tho
@Kyll too late
 
Bloody hell
Seriously, warn next time
 
haha kyll
@Magisch thanks
 
@Kyll Sorry
 
offtopic question
user has no idea what he is doing
no MCVE
 
7:59 AM
This has an undelete vote: stackoverflow.com/questions/22283767/…
 
won't click
 
and on second thought, I kinda agree with it
@rene @Gothdo --------------------------------------^
 
@Tunaki what is it?
 
i cant see it -_-
 
8:15 AM
hey @Kyll
 
Plop @Mag
 
You mentioned before you're teaching children, right?
 
Sort of
Why?
 
If you want high engagement for programming courses you can try letting them use minecraft with computercraft to learn LUA :p
 
I already am thinking of teaching them logic with Redstone xD
 
user3956566
8:17 AM
hi guys, post in charcoal needs abuse flags
 
I'm not even joined there..
 
user4639281
I love it when jshint tells me my code is confusing
 
user3956566
@kayess it's for people interesting in spam and abuse flagging on all the SE sites. If you're interested let me know, I'll vouch for you
 
@TinyGiant Too many function calls in body of function maybe
dang, this has a name
[someone] complexity?
 
user4639281
Cyclomatic Complexity
 
user3956566
8:19 AM
also @kayess answer some posts and get yourself some close votes ;)
 
@Kyll Thats a great idea
 
user4639281
no, I have a "Confusing use of !"
 
If you need help for dealing with minecraft/mods @Kyll hit me up :p
 
@TinyGiant Right, thanks
@Magisch Issue is
My mission ends in two months
 
:(
 
8:21 AM
So first I'd need to teach my coworkers and bosses to use Redstone
 
What will you do after that?
 
@Yvette have you used rx java and rx android?
 
user3956566
@ColdFire example?
 
@Yvette in app no example
 
@Yvette This is the first time I'm getting Yvette'd for rep :x
 
user3956566
8:22 AM
nope
 
So guys, I was helping on this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/39201367/… . Now it seems the question asker is not looking for a valid answer but just use SO as a documentation lookup crew. How to proceed?
it puzzles me
 
user3956566
@kayess don't worry the last two people I hassled to get rep, went and did so ;)
 
user4639281
ninja'd
 
user3956566
hm
 
So what's up with godaddy now that it's closed for good ?
 
user3956566
 
@MaartenBicknese As you see close vote requests have been sent, what OP has in mind is difficult to tell, just focus on the question, if it is not up to standards of SO (off-topic ecc), close vote (if closed they can edit it)
 
user3956566
@rene do we have a rep limit now on recommending people for SD?
 
@Yvette afaik rene set it up so its some rep limit + some time in this room + something else I have no clue about
and every addition needs explicit RO consent
 
user3956566
@Magisch that's one of the funniest answers I've been given in a while ;)
 
8:29 AM
I guess he would like >3k but >1K should be ok if the users is a regular.....
 
it's a combination of trust & rep & time in the room
@Queen k
 
user4639281
Updated view of the Magic Review Tool (still rough). Again, the fieldsets will be collapsible.
 
none of those being hard factors
 
@PetterFriberg thanks!
 
@TinyGiant So sexy my eyes are melting
 
user3956566
8:30 AM
@TinyGiant thanks laddy
 
user4639281
Not a single margin was used in the making of that image
 
ShinyGiant \o that's some nice UX :p
 
user4639281
lol, not yet, getting there
 
@Queen k
 
2naki \o
 
8:32 AM
o/
 
2naki
 
user4639281
If you haven't guessed, there are going to be more question filters, and answer filters as well
 
awesome nickname
 
@kayess POB is what I went with
 
8:34 AM
Hmm what changed on SO? Q's today getting closed in under <2-3minutes, pretty unusual
 
user4639281
I'm back in town :P jk
 
@kayess People be on angry Monday mode
 
lol
 
@Kyll I'm on monday - finishing lane mode considering I'll be on hiatus until next monday after today
 
If this is a new trend setting you guys must start worrying to perm. freeze this room because at this rate the CVQ will burn down in some days to 0 :D
 
8:36 AM
don't worry, I have lots of accounts posting garbage all day to keep the flow here
 
user4639281
lol
 
@Magisch Yay for you :D
 
under any circumstances we can rename this room to Triage Queue Reviewers lol
 
user4639281
I'm off for the night, 1:36am, see y'all tomorrow. I promise a revised Magic Review Tool soon.
 
night
 
8:37 AM
Seeya @Tiny have nice dreams with Magisch Review Tool :p
 
@TinyGiant Bonne nuit :D
 
user4639281
o/
 
@kayess oy
 
@Magisch oyoy, have you been ever called a review tool ? :P
 
Cya Tiny
 
8:39 AM
@Pet \o
 
Aloha!
 
I am a tool
but not in that way
 
Well you and everyone else in here is, for a degree
to some extent might be better worded..
 
user3956566
lack of mvce stackoverflow.com/questions/39202046/… (I'm out of votes)
 
user3956566
Just make an effort to capitalise your 'i's. It's not your first post here. And perhaps remove the whitespace from the left of your code block, so we can read it without scrolling. — Yvette 37 secs ago
 
user3956566
8:54 AM
really annoying
 
user3956566
ok when a questions read 'showing table data in gridview without code' I know, just know not to read the question
 

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