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1:05 PM
@Rahul can you help me
 
@AnkitaKashyap ??
@AditayKaushal no idea then
 
@Rahul so, there is no way to prevent encoding of special characters in params?
 
@DroidWormNarendra yes
 
ok
need to handle from server side, only
?
 
@DroidWormNarendra yes
 
1:07 PM
ok
as it seems, iphone build is working well
which probably isn't encoding
 
encode kare beena bhej
 
Use English
 
@NiranjPatel So you're also a flagger
great
 
Hello
 
@AnshulTyagi LOL
 
1:14 PM
@Rahul how?
 
What lol
 
httpPost.setEntity(new UrlEncodedFormEntity(nameValuePairs, "UTF-8"));
@Rahul
 
Talk to mod
 
what to change here? @Rahul
 
@AnshulTyagi I am getting flagged notification
 
1:15 PM
He already told everyone
Flag only offensive
you guys are such
 
any one knows why the repeating alarm is sending notification at the time of closing app
 
@AnshulTyagi Any flags on non english content are valid
 
Do your work please
 
why developer need only english language ..we can use binary format or we can use ascii
 
@AnshulTyagi I have 10K so I'm getting flagged message notifications
that's why I came here
 
1:17 PM
I know what you have
 
don't blame like that
 
@NiranjPatel how many github project ?
@Magisch why
 
@Rahul why ?
 
@NiranjPatel just asking
 
@Rahul fixed
 
1:18 PM
@Rahul
I think - httpPost.setEntity(new UrlEncodedFormEntity(nameValuePairs, "UTF-8"));
this is doing encoding
can I avoid this?
 
can we start talking in binary ):
 
none i guess so
 
@Rahul I don't have
 
Then create some github project instead of fun
 
@Rahul SO and SO chat is now officially english only
 
1:18 PM
@NiranjPatel ^^
@Magisch who said that
 
you are not my boss
 
42
A: Non-English Discussions in SE Chat

Shog9The choice here isn't between carefully moderating non-English rooms and shutting them down. It's between unmoderated rooms and shutting them down. There are... A lot of languages that aren't English. Way more than three. Expecting moderators or even 10k users to be able to interpret some abbre...

tl;dr chat only in english
 
All flaggers sit here 24/7
you enjoy
Lets see
Serial flagging
 
it's not all chat flag
 
hi, i am trying to add push notifications, but i am getting this error "Failed to resolve REGISTER intent, falling back" also, in the AndroidManifest.xml i have included the right permissions.
 
1:22 PM
@AnshulTyagi You do know chat flags don't even show in the SO profile?
 
I'm not asking for any clarification
 
So these 666 from Cerb are all site flags, not chat flags
 
I'm not talking about that ok
 
chat flag is not counting
 
1:24 PM
I'm talking you all guys come here only for flags
nothing else
 
you should read message of theLost mind
 
we are here because we got notification for flagged message
 
i don't how are you getting that notification
 
Moderation spans all of the network
Everything you guys do here is subject to public scrutiny
 
you should read that message
 
1:25 PM
it's useless to discussed with us
 
Stop talking in non english and people won't have anything to flag
 
what if i don't know english
then
 
Then SO is not for you
SO is an english site with english content and english only chat
 
this is community for developer or guys
like
you
 
My main language isnt english either
 
1:27 PM
then what's the problem
 
This is an english site
speak english on it
 
it is not you who decide
 
Thats right, the CM SE team does
and did, english only from now on.
 
LOL they never here
 
"So this is the lesser evil. It's an English website, expecting English in chat is not unreasonable."
Thats from a CM, you won't get a more authorative answer unless spolsky himself comments
 
1:29 PM
increase your repo always lol
 
you people always do the sits
 
guys stop all these ..we are developer not translater....developer has only one language that is binary format..start talking in binary
 
@Magisch CM who
 
Shog
click the link
its a link to shogs answer about that subject
 
CM WHO
 
1:30 PM
Community manager
 
are you CM
 
no
Im a user
The CMs make the rules, all users help enforce them.
 

SO Close Vote Reviewers

This room is for support and discussion about reviewing and co...
what is goping on this room
 
the why are you dancing around
2
le them to ask
if they have problem
 
they only target non english user
 
1:32 PM
told you you should read the theLoastmind last message
 
in SO Close Vote Reviewers, 4 mins ago, by Cerbrus
^ Flags for non-english
now what is this...
stop all this
 
in SO Close Vote Reviewers, 5 mins ago, by Cerbrus
^ Flags for non-english
@TheLostMind
 
You're not a mod so stay away
 
what is this
 
in SO Close Vote Reviewers, 5 mins ago, by Cerbrus
^ Flags for non-english
 
1:33 PM
Everyone is a mod
 
Of his own life
 
@Magisch how many time you have been in room
 
And this site
We all have the power to flag
 
"^ Flags for non-english" Was a JOKE
 
all over 10k have the power to review flags
 
1:34 PM
Geez
 
they're all mods
 
??
i ask you question
 
first of all
I can view and idle in every chat room I please
and I don't flag indian stuff that I can confirm is not offensive
 
that all we know
 
I only do it if its offensive or if google translate fails me
 
1:36 PM
you should ask
 
no
 
you have to learn if you want to
 
You guys should stop talking in Indian
 
why wtf
 
Not necessarily, @Magisch.
 
1:36 PM
TLM has warned you before, if you keep doing that this room will just be frozen
 
Hahahah
Hahahahah
 
May 20 at 7:16, by Cerbrus
Guys, once again, non-English rooms are tolerated As long as they don't cause issues.
 
Any room that fails to cut out the non english content will be frozen
 
Sam
Just in time for the popcorn @Ferry.
 
Again you guys started this debate :)
 
1:37 PM
May 20 at 6:39, by TheLostMind
Ok. Here is the deal. @PankajSharma and others. You guys stick to english otherwise this room could be frozen. Please consider this as a final warning.
 
appriciated @Cerbrus
 
56 secs ago, by Magisch
You guys should stop talking in Indian
you should read other message two also
 
could be frozen, @Magisch.
 
@Cerbrus thank you
 
"So this is the lesser evil. It's an English website, expecting English in chat is not unreasonable."
@BoltClock Sounds like yes, but that's partially a risk that turns up with the creation of a non-English room - we can't risk actual offensive content going through and putting people in danger, so err on the side of caution and ask people to chat in English. — ArtOfCode 2 days ago
 
1:39 PM
@Magisch: Just be aware that you risk a chat ban if you're going around flagging all non-english messages.
Since that is abuse.
 
No, im only flagging those where I can't confirm that they're non offensive
 
Seems fair
 
if you are not in the room why are you flagging
is some one ping you with your name
 
just don't be authoritative about it. (or whatever it's called)
 
the one who feels offended must flag, I think
not anyone should flag
 
1:41 PM
I was trying to be nice
by warning again
 
if you part of something involve
 
Sam
@Magisch You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. If they wish to continue, so be it, the consequences will follow.
 
Nice people doesn't give warnings
 
@AnshulTyagi That doesn't really make sense.
 
i never you guys from 4 days you are flagging
where were you
since i join so no one in this room speak in english and sometimes they
at that time where were you
 
1:43 PM
Sleeping, maybe
 
@Cerbrus @Magisch ask any user ...whenever any non english user is here and e ask question we answer in english...
 
why not that time
now sleep again
 
or the rule suddenly changed
 
@Tufan: I'm not paying attention to this room, or flagging.
I just didn't leave after the first few flags a few days ago (friday?)
 
you need attention
 
1:44 PM
so one in that room flagging isn't it
?
 
go another webs lol
 
than leave us ....this room is from last 2-3 years...
 
@Magisch where were you at time now say you see transcript
at that time you didn't see the transcript
 
use Google translator
and check if its offensive or not
 
or ask us ..we will answer you
 
1:46 PM
should i use some offensive word
don't have right ans for my question
 
show my message to them what I asked to mod
 
may be they are no sleeping
 
Sam
@AnshulTyagi Google translate is not the answer to everything.
 
you are also not the ans of everything
 
I talked about offensive
you give me an answer then
why tablayout is not working fast
tell me
 
1:48 PM
As Stack Exchange have recently announced a change in their licensing, which I disagree with, I will hereby no longer contribute code.
follow the rule...
HAHAHAHAHAH
 
We don't insult anyone but you guys are flagging us for no reason
 
still they are sleeping
 
lets them have some sleep
 
Any room that tolerates non english content is subject to freezing/deletion on sight
 
Okay folks, here's how this is going to go down: This is your final warning, we don't tolerate non-English rooms here. We're not going to use Google Translate to judge offensive content. If you continue conversation in other languages, I'm going to freeze/delete the room in accordance with meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/323439/…
 
Sam
1:50 PM
@Rahul "licence" and "rule" are not synonyms.
 
i know but licence has rule inside it
 
Sam
@Rahul Indeed, but it's the end user's choice of whether they accept the licence.
They can always decline it.
 
so we do have choice
 
Rules on the other hand
No.
 
You do have a choice
you can not use chat
 
1:52 PM
That's the point. You don't "chose" to follow rules. Rules are rules, you have to follow them.
 
Bye all Tc :)
 
@PranavBhatt bye :)
 
ba bye @DroidWormNarendra
 
room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk
 
1:59 PM
Ok. What is happening here?
 
Dont know @TheLostMind o.O
 
The discussion regarding English vs non-English chat
 
m scared before 1 mint i was not in this room
ohhh
 
yes me too
 
hmm
BTW bye all TC
 
2:04 PM
@theremin
hello
 
@Tufan bro need help
 
yes
what the issue
 
2:27 PM
@TheLostMind this room exists from 2-3 years where they when everyone speaks there own language in this room
They don't have ans for it
So how can i can accepte we should speak in English only
And meta exchange questions some where written they are dengorus can you explain how
??
 
@Rahul - As other mods and people have repeatedly clarified, we cannot effectively moderate non-english chatrooms. We have seen flags from this room as well and saying that "I don't care what they ask me to do, but I am going to speak in Hindi only" isn't the right kind of attitude here
 
selector do not work on listview @Tufan
 
That not ans
what attitude they show
 
when i click on list item it is not get selected @Tufan
 
You can read above message
 
2:31 PM
Also note that we are not trying to shutdown "hindi / gujarati" rooms. We are trying to reduce the noise that is generated by "all non-english rooms".
When other rooms already accepting this and using english tom communicate", I don't quite understand why you guys have an issue with this.
 
I have isuue with flagging
 
42
A: Non-English Discussions in SE Chat

Shog9The choice here isn't between carefully moderating non-English rooms and shutting them down. It's between unmoderated rooms and shutting them down. There are... A lot of languages that aren't English. Way more than three. Expecting moderators or even 10k users to be able to interpret some abbre...

 
Why people flag when they are not in room since 2-3 year
 
Its simple. You are giving them a reason to flag by using Hindi / Gujarati etc
 
Oh where were they before
Election is coming or what
 
2:34 PM
Sir our concern is we are not talking to them we won't abuse them then why they flag our message without any reason
 
Politic here to omg
Hahaha
Wtf
 
That is none of your concern. Why are you worried about who flags your messages. You are giving them a chance to do so by suing other languages
 
I though this cm about helping developer each other
 
Frankly I learned english at the age of 12 it is very difficult for me to explain every thing in english
 
@Kaushik Got it
 
2:36 PM
@Kaushik - I am no Sir and I understand your concern but we have to accept certain rules
 
This all about politics
Lol
 
@Rahul - What politics?
 
No need to explain you
As you didn't ans the question
:D
 
it is very easy for us to solve each other problem in our mother tongue rather than english seriously we hate this kinda rules
 
They exist for now
After election they don't
 
2:39 PM
bye cya
 
Lol seriously I can't stop laughing
 
@Kaushik - I understand that. But by using English, you get to keep this room
 
good night
 
Good night
You should put one gatekeeper . whenever people say gm in there language he should flag it
That what your gatekeeper is doing now
 
2:59 PM
hey guys
hey @Rahul it all started after that meta post of a gujarati group
 
@Rahul there's honestly no politics involved here. This is a question of moderation.
Moderating languages other than English (which is the language of the site) was deemed impractical years ago.
We don't mind the occasional "good morning" or whatever in various languages
But entire transcripts in french/hebrew/hindi are near impossible to follow for us.
 
3:17 PM
@MadaraUchiha Since morning we are using English but someone flag some sortcuts msg regulary use by me
How do you fill when we flag some shortcuts or English which not translate by Google
Sometimes they are offensive but we don't act on that sometimes against the people
If we are going to flag this becomes flagging website
And I understand your point
 
@Rahul Honestly, you were flagged because you told someone to f*** off.
And the message that was flagged earlier today is only one of many in an entire conversation.
Again, this website is an English website. All the moderators know English, some know other languages. But we've tried, and it doesn't work.
 
Yes I told. But they flag msg before it
 
So that's the policy now.
You can take it, and continue chatting here in English
 
Ok so some shortcuts of English is not translated by Google
 
Or chat elsewhere in whatever language you like. That's the policy set by the site. And that's what we're going to follow.
 
3:23 PM
So that can be flag if we do not understand
 
@Rahul It's not the message that was flagged. Not specifically anyway.
You can only flag individual messages, but the flag was on the conversation.
 
There you go your policy
 
Would it have mattered if all of the messages were flagged?
Would that have made you happier?
 
Look above message what they
 
Honestly, I'm tired of repeating this discussion in every room.
 
3:25 PM
They flag it because they don't understand
Not translated by Google
 
I'm not going to argue the individual message here with you.
 
You can read it it's written in English
 
I've done it at least 10 times since I became a moderator
5 hours ago, by Kirti
@ManishAndroid nahi windows use kar rahi hu
Here's the user's message before the flagged one
5 hours ago, by Kirti
@ManishAndroid upgrade nahi ho raha hai wo error show kar raha hai network error
And here's the one before that
I'm not going to argue whether those messages are OK or not.
This is Stack Overflow chat. If you want to chat here, you obey the rules and moderation of the site.
 
You read this only not whole transcript honesty
 
If you want to chat in whatever language you please, this chat is not the place.
 
3:29 PM
Sure
Probably I going to delete. Just because you see only one side
Your people flag it who moderator they don't see when people use some shortcuts in English which offensive
 
@Rahul The difference is, that the community as a whole, as well as every single moderator, can probably understand an English slang or phrase, and are able to determine whether it's offensive or not.
The same can't be said for other languages.
 
No they don't even sometimes you don't when it is quick
You search around everyone does
 
3:56 PM
@Rahul @MadaraUchiha can trap you into genjutsu beware
 
 
1 hour later…
4:59 PM
@MadaraUchiha why don't you look at other side when we try to convince others to talk in English only?? I asked people to edit their messages and update into English
 
@AnshulTyagi We do appreciate your efforts, and will help you in any way we can.
 
You're just favouring the people who flag not to us.
 

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