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12:07 AM
What do we do with questions that were deleted by the OP after they got an accepted answer?
 
Depends on the quality of the question and the quality of the answer.
 
Rob
Two people already approving
 
rejected
 
Rob
Cheers
 
And with that, off to bed. Bonne nuit les amis !
 
12:13 AM
Does anyone remember a question like this one? I swear there is a good duplicate out there.
 
@Tunaki bons rêves
 
Rob
Night mate
 
@misterManSam I don't remember a question like that one, but that ain't saying much.
 
12:40 AM
Morning everyone
 
@KevinGuan primarily opinion-based
 
@Louis Huh, why is that POB?
 
@KevinGuan Depends on the site. Answers are going to be guesses.
 
@Louis If that's why I'm voting to close your question, I think the reason should be Unclear right?
@Louis However, POB means answers are going to be based on the answerer's primarily opinion.
 
@KevinGuan I usually use unclear if I don't have an idea of what the answer should be. Here I have an idea of what answers could be but they are going to be based on a bunch of assumptions that the answerers make rather than anything concrete from the question.
 
12:50 AM
@Louis Ah, afk for the breakfast. Talk about this later :)
 
@Shadow you can answer this question you were on by looking at my cascading deletes answer
look for the -- good, the cascade delete deleted the 1 row here
Sure, one can perform toomfoolery with a delete / join pattern. But referential integrity does it for you. So that dupe target is bogus
 
1:08 AM
@Drew the topic I marked it as a duplicate has both types of solutions: multi table delete and foreign keys. The multi table delete is the accepted one.
 
Back
About this one, @Rob You have posted a comment there, what do you think about it?
 
Rob
@KevinGuan I voted POB
 
@Rob Okay fair enough.
 
It was more of a comment that it can be done. And it should be done with cascades
Oh, and it wasn't to point a dupe target toward mine. Rather, if someone wanted to answer it
 
@Shadow Well, do you know that we have a script which can post automatically when you vote to close questions?
 
1:14 AM
I think he was the one last nite that said he doesn't want scripts
 
@Drew we do not even know if the OP uses innodb or myisam. Some prefer actual delete statements, some prefer cascading deletes via referential integrity. The point of marking the question as duplicate is that the question has been asked before and the previous question has good answers.
 
idk. Maybe that should have been explored
 
@KevinGuan yes, I'm aware now, but I do not prefer to install any such scripts on my computers as @Drew correctly remembers
 
@Shadow Ah, that's fine.
 
1:33 AM
@pp_ Well, voted as Unclear, but I think it should be no MCVE actually now :(
 
pp_
I flagged it as no mcve
 
Yeah, my bad.
 
pp_
It was quite unclear, too.
 
user177800
@Shadow PHP is a close vote turing tarpit; why do you guys even waste your time?
 
1:50 AM
sadly mysql doesn't have any active hammers. So if 40% of mysql questions weren't also PHP, it would never see any dupe hammers
 
user177800
@Drew mysql attracts almost as much crap as PHP, it is a "cultural" thing.
 
maybe half the crap
 
user177800
@KevinGuan who the hell upvotes crap like this, much less votes to reopen?
 
@JarrodRoberson I don't know.
 
user177800
@KevinGuan you want a bump to 10K?
 
1:57 AM
speaking of which I have been asking around for you Jarrod about the low 2k rep people. No one responded twice
 
@JarrodRoberson Hmm...I want be a 10ker, but a bump ?
 
I would gladly shed rep for 3k-ers
 
user177800
@KevinGuan I can bounty you up to 10k want that 1K bump?
 
@JarrodRoberson Wait, you want give me 1k by bounty? Really? Why?
 
user177800
@KevinGuan spending 1K in bounty to get you to be able to moderator more effectively is better than spending 500 downvotes on shitty answers. Plus I bumped Tiny and someone else last month. Basically anything above 25K is just "cake" at this point. Rep does not mean what it meant when I earned it.
 
user177800
2:01 AM
@KevinGuan two days ...
 
@JarrodRoberson Ah thanks. But I don't know if that's also a...is that allowed?
 
user177800
@Drew don't ask just point out the people that are working on their own to clean up the site. Demonstration is better than words.
 
user177800
@KevinGuan my points to do with what I wish! -)
 
@JarrodRoberson I've been looking at @WaiHaLee 's answers lately. He is inches away
 
@JarrodRoberson Ah, thanks so much then! :D
 
2:04 AM
@JarrodRoberson .... @kayess busts his tail
 
Seems I forgot how to get more rep after Chinese New Year, I'm not getting about 100 rep everyday.
 
user177800
@Drew can you send me their account #, so I make sure I get the right people?
 
user177800
@KevinGuan I can't get to chat.stackoverflow.com from work, it is blocked, so helping you guys is even better. Makes me a "force multiplier". ;-p
 
@JarrodRoberson And I'm also little busy now anyway ;P
 
Rob
@Jarrod That sounds terrible.. Do they just block the DNS or the IP address too?
 
user177800
2:13 AM
@Rob it gets worse, it is an NTLM Authenticaing proxy so getting anything other than Winblows shit to get through it is a righteous PITA!
 
user177800
@Rob I work for GM, with 245,000 employee's they kind of just apply a big ass hammer to carpet tacks with things like this. They have unblocked some things that were silly to block, I know people who know people, etc.
 
user177800
@Rob chat.SO is not worth burning political capital on right now.
 
@JarrodRoberson But it's good that you're not in China.
 
user177800
@KevinGuan yeah probably, my biological mother is half-chinese, I hear it is a nice place to visit!
 
@JarrodRoberson imo these guys are safe bets:
[kayess](http://chat.stackoverflow.com/users/4805174)
[FerryBig](http://stackoverflow.com/users/1542723)
[wai-ha-lee](http://chat.stackoverflow.com/users/1364007)

The last two could get there in 1 day. Anyone add or put out any obvious omissions and as such, sorry.
 
2:21 AM
@JarrodRoberson Hmm...somethings here are good, other things are bad. For example, we have Great Wall, but also there's a Great Fire Wall.
 
user177800
@KevinGuan yeah I am not sure out political system is much better at this point honestly, at least your government does not try and pretend it is not a democracy. We have an Oligarchy at best right now in the USA.
 
user177800
@Drew thanks, book marking them now!
 
@JarrodRoberson Anyway, we're trying to change the political system. China will be better soon!
 
Don't try too hard. You might become us.
 
Maybe, I'm going to move to France other countries later if China is still like now.
 
user177800
2:27 AM
@Drew so I have 3 bounties out, 2 for Kevin and 1 for FerryBig, I will hit the other two in two days if they have not breached 3K by then!
2
 
Thank you sir
 
user177800
@KevinGuan well you guys get a fair share of $$$ from me from discrete electronics parts from ebay, so I am good with that! ;)
 
@JarrodRoberson :P
 
user177800
@Drew I would bump you but 15K is a ways away and "protect" priviledge is pretty useless honestly.
 
If I was that thirsty I would go out there. I keep looking at the little guys answers, ya know.
And recruiting. There are more cv out there, than on my keyboard. So I recruit.
 
user177800
2:35 AM
@Drew yep! that is why I have quit down voting crap answers to crap questions, I can spend the points on enabling a hit squad of others to do it. :-)
 
user177800
@Drew I am interested in bumping those close to 3K and 10K get over the threshold if they are working on cleaning up things actively.
 
user177800
@Drew 3K is vote close/reopen and 10K is delete
 
@JarrodRoberson yep. Those three above are no-brainers. A few others need some schooling. Just my opinion.
Then I try to do the freebie thing like with Shadow and TimB the other night. Shadow is here. 5k rep.
As you know, getting a new 3k guy to close can be tough: "Hey here is a question I can answer"
Then there was Tim. I don't ever recall seeing him on a close vote. Large rep
yada yada
Then I run system scans on the data and, say, know who are all the close voters by tag. Then I determine who are the guys that like to VTC but are not doing enough. Then they get batches prepared for them.
Just like in your case, people don't have all day to do this. How can we best utilize the 30 minutes they are willing to close vote. Here is your batch. Consider closing 20 at once.
 
2:56 AM
Only difference is div vs iframe and the questioner answered with a link to the answer of the dupe.
 
^^^ OP Edited.
 
user177800
3:17 AM
@Drew I have a filter on the close vote queue. [java] duplicate. I hammer 40 a day, if I have time, then I come here and burn the rest of my votes on non-java stuff.
 
3:40 AM
!!/alive
 
@intboolstring Yup
 
@TJ That isn't a CV statement. That is DV
 
T J
it should be closed as no longer reproducable and not useful for future readers right
there is no problem to be solved
 
user177800
@Drew or you can go on a rampage hammering the most obvious duplicates to a common canonical question/answer. The popular ones in are "null pointer exceptions", "how to compare strings" and "ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException" which I have a canonaical question/answer pair that is extremely comprehensive.
 
user177800
3:47 AM
out of votes bed time!
 
T J
gush ni8s
its morning here though .~.
 
@TJ Does this really warrant adding to the blacklist?
 
@user1803551 can you tack an mcve onto this? stackoverflow.com/q/35111446
 
T J
i thought that command gives positive feedback but doesn't add to blacklist .__.
 
4:02 AM
@TJ k = tpu- = Marks a reported post as true positive and adds the poster to the blacklist.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara User is not blacklisted.
 
Wait, what?
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Maybe because the user is Unregistered
 
@AlexanderO'Mara User is not blacklisted.
 
4:03 AM
@Tushar I think unregistered users have been blacklisted before.
 
T J
lol
 
@SmokeDetector sd postgone
Was reported earlier, but my postgone removed that.
@SmokeDetector sd postgone
Win win
2 spams on same post, protected by Community user
 
batch82 count=14 cv3 is in the beehive
 
4:21 AM
@AlexanderO'Mara popped
 
This dupe is still around if anyone wants to squash it.
 
T J
guys, I saw this question stackoverflow.com/q/35445823/2333214, I gave a feedback in comments within 3 minutes the answerer updated his answer according to my comment
could it be a sock puppet account of the answerer..?
else how will he be notified about my comment on question?!
never mind I asked him :)
 
4:39 AM
well he scored on the last 2 q's other than that not really
maybe they live together. co-worker thing has been seen. Answer arrives same duo 1 minute later.
 
T J
.~.
well maybe
 
And such a thing seems to be kosher when that happens
 
T J
he replied saying he got a notification
maybe he had added a comment on question which he later deleted or something
hence got a notification..!
 
sd remove -edited
 
maybe his cube mate threw a nerf ball at him and said "hey a comment came in"
batch6 count=10 cv3,4 is in the beehive
 
5:46 AM
@TJ got some jquery up there for ya in the hive
 
T J
ok
 
T J
6:25 AM
cleared jquery stuff in hive
 
(y)
^^^^ Debag mah codez
 
T J
someone answered that too -___-
 
T J
6:45 AM
opps missed tag :/
wow missed link
I'm a moron -_-
 
7:15 AM
@Tushar - k
:P
 
7:29 AM
sd remove -edited
 
7:43 AM
@user1803551 feel free to update the progress answer with that so we keep public what we are doing
and thanks for the effort ;)
@TJ don't worry, we still love u ...
 
7:57 AM
Good morning
 
Morning
 
@rene how successful yesterdays event was?
 
I had 37 corners questions in the cvq that I could vote on so I'm pretty happy with that
It might become harder now to fill the CVQ again but you might re-visit. There is an event tonight at 20:00 UTC
afk
 
8:20 AM
@SmokeDetector An accepted answer
 
Plop!
 
This answer seems incorrect to me, since you can issue an insert statement without specifying column list in mysql. Does this warrant removal or just downvote? stackoverflow.com/a/35451056/5389997
 
@Tushar A bit soon to vtc. Commenting.
@Shadow Removal is only done exceptionally to answers that should absolutely be removed (spam, NAA, various garbage (sljsdfsldjfdsjfsf)...). If you think an answer is incorrect or not useful you should downvote it and maybe post your own answer.
 
@Kyll thanks for the guidance!
 
9:11 AM
Waffle
 
Waffle
 
Baffle
 
@Kyll In not, then broad
 
I'm going with tool rec.
 
9:22 AM
@Tushar Goo Mo!
 
@PraveenKumar What does that mean?
 
@Tushar Good Morning! LoL.
 
GM~
 
@Kyll Maybe but a lot of votes (interest) and answers, I'm moving on : ) do not have courage
 
@PetterFriberg Votes are not indicators of on-topicness in any way =)
 
9:27 AM
That's true, but you know me... I have only 50 CV and since so much crap, I go for the worse... (I leave the high interest questions alone... probably someone will reopen??)
 
@PetterFriberg If they do, the post might need a Meta discussion or a histo-lock
sd k EXTERMINATE!
 
@Kyll As always you are correct and probably another reason is to not teach new users ask bad question.... but for now I sting the the easy prey....
 
@PetterFriberg I'm not always correct, thank God. The world would literally be on fire. Have fun preying =D
 
sd edited- remove
 
9:38 AM
sd remove -edited
I did that
 
You confused SD...
Which is the right syntax?
 
You did that
sd remove typeAnythingHere
 
@Tushar LoL. Okay.
 
9:55 AM
@Tushar Edited.
 
Retracted vote
 
@TJ to be deleted. :)
 
@Kyll postgone
 
T J
10:15 AM
come on guys... that post should've been on hall of fame... :(
 
^^^^ Wrong CV req. Ignore ^^^^
 
Hey everyone
 
@Drew I'm super busy at the moment, but do want to get to 3k soon so I can actually be helpful with batches here. I'll try to find some good questions to answer soon. I'm also at 4937 helpful flags - may well get 5k flags before 3k rep!
 
@NathanOliver are you a c++ guy right?
In case anyone else is, is this Q kinda broad?
 
@Drew what do you mean by "tack an mcve"?
 
10:31 AM
@WaiHaLee 5K FLAGS!!! REALLY?
 
@WaiHaLee Yeah, no need that image. I can simply check that. Just wonder how did you flag so many posts.
 
@WaiHaLee Congrats! \o
I'm racing with myself to have at least as many helpful flags as my current rep :)
 
@kayess So you mean I need flag at least 50 posts before a post a good answer?
 
@KevinGuan Huh?
 
10:38 AM
@KevinGuan There is a lot of NAA if you look at the newest is:answer posts. Thanks, link-only, me too, etc. I think Tunaki uses the same search but is more useful and leaves comments for the users.
 
@kayess I can always get 50k if my answer is good...wait, I also don't have 9k helpful flags :(
@WaiHaLee Wrong! Complete wrong! Tunaki has some useful tools to find these stuff.
Actually, The Mod Tools.
 
@KevinGuan Ooh, I didn't realise that. Sounds a lot easier than what I do.
 
@KevinGuan 50k? I think I have lost this convo
 
@WaiHaLee Maybe, didn't try them. But I could use them soon!
@kayess Typos, typos everywhere.
 
10:59 AM
back
 
front
 
@JarrodRoberson 5k bounty pls to bump me over the Great Wall. thanks in advice!
seriously though, that closing of the AIOOB canonical with an answer by skeet as a dupe of yours takes balls. we have much to discuss :)
 
11:19 AM
^ now closed, but "unclear" outnumbered "typo"
 
@rene the link for Review in the Close vote Queue in meta.stackoverflow.com/a/317020 isn't working for me with the filters, it just brings me to the CVQ
 
@user1803551 let me try and fix that. I guessed how it works but I guessed wrong
@user1803551 can you retry
 
@rene works!
 
@Tushar Grrr. Both those answers consist of "Try" followed by a code dump with no explanation. I hate that.
 
\o/
 
11:25 AM
@PM2Ring Me too. You might like my answer
 
@PM2Ring just add a catch(NotUsefulException downVote) at the end ...
 
@PM2Ring One more from same user stackoverflow.com/questions/35455318/…
 
@Tushar Still no explanation. :) And you should know better than to write answers in comments.
 
@rene I updated the filter
 
@PM2Ring And you should know better than to write answers in comments?
 
11:28 AM
I'm tempted to comment: "Do. Or do not. There is no try. "
 
user3956566
@Drew what's up, I haven't been online, we've had family commitments.. a funeral and some other things
 
user3956566
they've changed the reveiw queue
 
@Tushar Putting a suggestion into a comment is ok, and I guess it's acceptable if the answer is so trivial that it doesn't deserve to be a proper answer. However, some people take a dim view of that: if the question's so bad that it's going to be closed you shouldn't encourage the OP by giving them an answer. OTOH, I like to give misguided OPs a little bit of help when I close-vote their questions, unless the tone of their question indicates that they're probably a Help Vampire.
 
11:47 AM
@PM2Ring You're right about that, and I also think same. However on that question there were already two answers and then I posted comment which IMO is better than other two answers
 
user3956566
@Drew r_batch6_20160217_0440 all closed
 
Afternoon all!
 
user3956566
\o
 
11:59 AM
\o
 
T J
whats \o ..?
 
@TJ \o
 
T J
what .__.
 
 
T J
12:06 PM
ok hanks
*t
 
you can edit your chat messages also
 
T J
I don't see that option
there's a "flag for mod attention" option while clicking on the arrow @ left
whywould i flag my on comment for mod action .~.
 
Sam
Morning
 
back
 
you have 2 minutes i think to do the edit
 
12:11 PM
@TJ You can try press the up key.
 
@TJ You can only edit for 2 minutes
 
T J
oh ok
 
And yeah, in 2 minutes, there's edit | delete | flag for moderator three options.
 
@TJ Just remember that every edit... makes... another... ping!
 
T J
okay
 
12:14 PM
And you can see the history.
 
@TJ It's a handy feature for those people who are prone to psychotic outbursts. :)
 
T J
.~.
 
Hiya
 
Sam
Hiya
 
Hiya
 
Yam
12:24 PM
GraveRobber started 1.10.5 (debug).
 
Who would have thought a bot would ruin such a nice train
 
sam
that's why he made it
 
Sam
whistles
 
12:40 PM
 
Morning
 
Sam
Morning
 
Morning
 
Moaning
 
Good Evening
 
12:47 PM
G'day
 
obvious audit is obvious: i.stack.imgur.com/dtool.png
 
..now I'm banned from reviewing because I accidentally pressed 'Requires Editing' instead of 'Unsalvageable' :(
 
ouch
 
the easiest post I ever had to review: puu.sh/kzHJ5/d36480d640.png
 
12:51 PM
@cybermonkey Not sure.. wait, let me try it..
 
@kayess In its current state it has a lot of extra fluff in it that could be edited out. I left a message to the OP about a possible solution. If they respond I'll talk to them about triming the Q down to what he is getting after. basically it is the last bullet point and the last paragraph that really has the problem.
 
@cybermonkey the first one doesn't work it seems
 
@user1803551 two different solutions? odd way to go about it
 
Twice the chance of getting a downvote.
 
@cybermonkey the first one doesn't work it seems, so they just posted another
 
12:54 PM
Good question. Loos like one is a drop in fix and the other is a different way of handling it. I personally think they are not dissimilar enough to be two separate answers.
 
@user1803551 It's SO tempting to downvote both, just for the hell of it:)
 
That SD report only needs one more delete vote.
 
@NathanOliver Ok thanks.
 
1:06 PM
Wish we could have @GordonLinoff here for closings :)
 
@kayess We have mods here
 
closed and then the OP edited.
 
'A verbatim test question is inappropriate for Stack Exchange.' - often, I hate the 'be nice' policy.
 
Hi @Tushar
 
@kayess ask him to come
 
1:09 PM
Just a small doubt..
 
@AvinashRaj Hi
 
does anyone know if this is about programming or better handled at SF, if it wasn't crap?
 
@rene I would say SF
 
OK, lets NOT migrate it but cv as off-topic, better suited for SF
 
1:13 PM
That is what I chose
 
Looks like we don't have Java hammer today. Where's @Tunaki
 
Tunaki is busy typing an answer here stackoverflow.com/q/35453479/5606016
 
I'm here, I'm here. Wait what's happening? OH MY GOD IS THIS THE END OF THE WORLD
@A.DiMatteo just finished :)
 
@Tunaki reading it, I was thinking "hey Tunaki, typing slow today eh"
 
:D
 
1:21 PM
@Slownaki
 
@kayess There's a classic (I think from SE.Mathematics) where the question is simply a photo of a question on an exam paper, with the OP's real name in the shot.
 
@PM2Ring lol
 
@MartinJames I can relate to that. But the whole point is to try to keep SO content courteous and professional. Don't respond to rubbish with rubbish. If you have to vent, do it here, not on the main site.
 
afternoon/plop/cabbage all
 
Plop @JonClements \o
 
1:27 PM
One NAA there
 
@Tushar Yup flagged as such
 
morning!
 
@JonClements Hey, Jon skeet, The silent Guardian
 
@JonClements Add Idli Dosa Vada
 
But I must admit there have been many times when I've wanted to post something like: "Perhaps you don't have the necessary aptitude to be a programmer. Have you considered something more appropriate to your skill set, like finger-painting?" :)
2
 
1:28 PM
Hey Jon
 
translate: Add Idli Dosa Vada
(from English) Add Idli Dosa Vada
that worked well then :p
@NathanOliver how goes it?
 
@JonClements Pretty good. I love the 20K privs. Helps to clean up the crud better.
 
@NathanOliver faster delete votes/being able to delete answers responsibly is definitely not bad for sure :p
 
:). How have you been doing?
 
@NathanOliver SSDD? :p
 
1:34 PM
Well at least its not the same day ;)
 
Well ya know, somtimes, Groundhog and its shadow and all that - can feel like it
 
@PM2Ring Yeah... it's not the incompetence that annoys me, after all, that disappears with training /experience, it's the inherent assumption that SO contributors, since they aren't paid, don't deserve any respect at all and so thay can be palmed off with any old crap with no inputs, no outputs, no debugging details etc. They would not do that with their doctor, lawyer garage technician or accountant because they would be made to pay dearly but, those drones on SO? Who cares about them?
 
@JonClements It's awesome you said that. I was debating if I needed to refer to it.
 
@MartinJames can you explain that better. Not sure what you mean? j/k
how about the sense of entitlement
 
1:37 PM
@Drew lol, without getting suspended or banned? I don't think so, no:)
 
some will badger you so bad if you don't get married to their problem. Like you can't just swoop in with a comment, steer, and vanish.
 
@MartinJames Sometimes, when the OP looks like they're just being thoughtless rather than being a help vampire, I try to explain that you pay for good answers on SO by providing a good question that will help not just yourself but also future readers. But most of the time I can't be bothered.
@user1803551 The language in the screenshot is a dialect of BASIC.
 
Somebody is taking revenge for my close votes and downvotes my answers
 
@user1803551 meh
 
@PM2Ring then please edit it accordingly?
 
1:48 PM
People are jerks sometimes.
 
@user1803551 It's now been given a tag. There are / were so many dialects of BASIC, and IIRC you would need those outer parentheses in some old dialects, but generally not in more modern ones. So using that extra level of parenthesis may not be necessary in some dialects, but it does clear up the possible ambiguity.
 
@user1803551 I was asking for a 4th so I could then close it
 
I'm currently unavailable at the moment (working on at that question). Please leave a message after the tone. I'll get back to you shortly :)
 
1:55 PM
it was jailbreaking
 

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