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7:00 PM
@rlemon Your server down?
 
@rlemon vlc might be able to do it
 
What is the highest level where js is found? And when I say highest level, I mean space exploring rovers and working backwards.
 
@Trasiva streaming server/?? yea
got the new camera module in
 
@rlemon Your quotes page too.
 
@rlemon ln -s /dev/foo /dev/videoN
 
7:02 PM
@Waxi unclear what you're asking, close vote
 
@Waxi the throttle control on Toyotas
 
@Trasiva quotes page?
 
@rlemon The air quotes gif.
 
@FlorianMargaine see here is the thing. I don't know where it is located :/
 
@ssube How high can you climb with js? Where can you take it? Is it only for "web apps"?
 
7:03 PM
@Waxi JavaScript has no maximum operating altitude defined in the spec.
 
@Waxi You can do anything except, maybe, embedded and real-time
 
@Waxi also, that's still not a real question.
 
@Luggage Exactly what I'm looking for...good shit, thank you!
 
@Waxi that was a joke
 
I don't know how to word the question, I just wanna know the potential of the language.
 
7:03 PM
@Waxi If you use it anywhere besides web apps, you have a high risk of breaking important applications
 
@ssube :(
 
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/01/19/how-to-keep-a-young-coder-occupied/
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How to keep a young coder occupied
CommitStrip
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the brake controls on a rolercoaster
 
@copy Why?
 
@Waxi JS can't handle realtime
 
7:05 PM
And web applications aren't important
 
Says the guy who virtualized an architecture.
 
@Waxi JS really can be used for almost anything that runs on a normal PC.
some tasks just may not have as many pre-made libraries
 
@ssube I think this is what I was looking for.
 
But just because it can do anything, it might not be a good choice for all jobs.
due to existing tools, and other reasons
 
The dynamic nature of objects gives JS unpredictable memory usage and the single-threaded nature (with any native threads being used for IO) gives it unpredictable event timing, which makes it useless for realtime and tricky for embedded.
You certainly can't use it in flight control, medicine, heavy industry, Mars rovers, or anything cool.
That will be C until the end of days.
 
7:08 PM
but it's become very very popular for desktop apps.
nodewebkit, electron, MS's JS junk, etc.
all sorts of desktop apps written in JS out, now.
 
because desktops have plenty of memory (compared to embedded) and people don't mind 50ms latency
 
@ssube @Luggage Thank you thank you
 
many mobile apps, too (and not just html-based)
 
it's a good server scripting language, too
 
Now YOU give us an example what what you are trying to use JS for.
 
7:10 PM
because the server is largely IO-bound, in a good architecture
 
There's paramedics in my office
 
@SterlingArcher did you die?
 
My deskmate seems to be having issues. :( I hope he's ok. He's talking and stuff
 
I really didn't have an example, was just curious where the ceiling was.
 
tell him to commit his code.
 
7:11 PM
@SterlingArcher talking is a sure sign of doom
 
@Luggage oh. my. god.
 
@Luggage lmao
 
that or he's just a snitch
 
too soon? :)
 
If I was worried about him I'd laugh so hard right now
 
7:11 PM
you should probably shut him up before he rats you out
 
so he's talking and that indicates an issue?
lol
 
Oh man, he's very pale
I'm actually very worried about him
 
> I'm worried, he's talking
> he's pale
TELL A COMPLETE STORY FFS!
 
Screen shot or it didn't happen.
 
I hope you re-read that
 
7:17 PM
@SterlingArcher is he an emo?
 
Screen Shot wouldn't help you here.
 
That's normal for the emos.
 
@ssube I used to own a tshirt with a stick face with emo hair and a single tear. "dont' cry emo kid"
so sad when I lost it
 
lol whoops...screen shot real life is what I meant. Life shot?
 
picture
 
7:18 PM
photograph
 
@ssube no he's chinese
 
lmao...fuckers
 
@SterlingArcher there are chinese emos
you racist
 
@copy apparently I needed motion-mmal
they made a complete new version for rpi camera module
 
Chinesemo
Finding Chinesemo
 
7:19 PM
Chinesemos
 
Say, herro r u ok ^_^
 
No but seriously, no more jokes. He's a great guy and we're very worried.
 
@SterlingArcher FINE! IGNORE ME!
:weeps:
 
I'm assuming the paramedics are right next to you then, if he was your deskmate and you can see that he is turning pale. Just ask them what's wrong?
 
@rlemon I WILL GET BACK TO YOU MOMENTARILY
 
7:20 PM
@SterlingArcher TEN FOUR LITTLE BUDDY
 
Hopefully he's ok man.
 
yea we joke, but we are not total jerk faces
hope he is okay
 
@SterlingArcher Tell him he's really rice, and he should keep his Chin up. Also, just let him talk, talking's good.
 
or you know, give the dude some room and let the trained professionals look after him
 
Tell him to keep his Chin(ese) up
 
7:23 PM
whatever works.
 
@rlemon Are civilian shrinks pretty good? All the ones the VA made me go to for my depression sucked.
 
no clue
 
@Trasiva where did shrinks come from?
 
never been to a shrink
 
The dude is collapsing, he doesn't need a shrink.
He needs an ambulance like the one that apparently showed up.
 
7:24 PM
I need to go to a shrink. I have too many issues
 
@ssube Oh, I just got back, I assumed it was an emotional thing.
 
@ndugger .catch(lifeIssues. err => {});
 
@ssube If I had to guess? Probably some well dressed person they paid $100 to listen to people from off the street.
 
@Trasiva Don't quit your day job to go into reading.
 
you can get paid to read?!
.. I am in the wrong industry
 
7:25 PM
I can't read
 
I tried that Hooked on Phonics, I couldn't figure it out.
 
!!google percentage of illiterate people in USA
 
> This government study showed that 21% to 23% of adult Americans were not "able to locate information in text", could not "make low-level inferences using printed materials", and were unable to "integrate easily identifiable pieces of information."
@ndugger you are not alone then
I wonder what it is in Canada ?? I would expect higher to be honest. We have a lot of inuit who wouldn't qualify as literate
 
What did you say? I can't read your message
 
7:28 PM
> 42% of Canadian adults between the ages of 16 and 65 have low literacy skills.

55% of working age adults in Canada are estimated to have less than adequate health literacy skills. Shockingly, 88% of adults over the age of 65 appear to be in this situation
yup, we suck.
 
I can read, I just choose not to, because not reading is sexy.
 
get better, noob
Wat
 
I've never once gotten laid based on my reading skills.
 
Because getting laid is all that matters
 
actually..
yes
 
7:28 PM
fucking no
 
According to Darwin, yes.
 
yeah
 
we are made to procreate
 
it's like 90% of the world
 
biologically, we are mating machines.
 
7:29 PM
!!youtube the bad touch bloodhound gang
 
But you should also avoid dying
 
That's not what my feminist acquaintance said when I was discussing social justice on tumblr.
 
I love Bloodhound Gang
 
7:29 PM
getting laid doesn't imply being shitty to people
 
@copy Males can die right after sex.
 
@Luggage but then you don't get to have more D:
 
@ndugger women are (built?) conditioned to pick the best partner to procreate. men are conditioned to be said partner. a couple hundred years of social evolution doesn't change a million years of biology
 
In node, is it expected that calling process.exit(1) in a module would kill the entire running app? When I do that, everything seems to hault, but the shell makes it look like something's still being waited on. Doesn't return back to being interactive.
 
You're just racist
 
7:30 PM
...
 
@ndugger no, that's @Trasiva
 
no, he's sexist
 
@ssube Mind backing the bus off me?
 
and you're just feminist
 
nicks just being nick. he has no argument so he spirals into bigotry and personal insults.
 
7:31 PM
@Sean you're runing an external process from within node?
 
@Trasiva nope, it can't get any traction in the rice
 
because this is equal to window object
I don't insult people
well, I suppose that's subjective
 
@Sean Well, you're exiting with a failure code as well.
If that's intentional, cool, otherwise that could be part of the problem.
@ssube You know, I'm just not going to go there. Because I'm gonna get flagged.
 
Does open source means non-commercial? I mean, can a piece of software make its source code public and at the same time, make people pay for using it (the compiled app)?
 
@Frondor OS doesn't indicate non-commercial
it simply means the source is publicly available
@Frondor you can sell open source software, but most places sell the support instead of the software.
 
7:34 PM
@Trasiva yep, so you probably shouldn't make rice jokes in the future.
 
@rlemon Alright, thanks
 
what lemon already said
 
@ssube just added that
 
@Frondor Yes. Anything is possible and legal. People commonly give away source but ALSO say "if it's for commercial use, you need ot pay us".
the copyright holder can license any copy how they see fit
 
yea
that is all license specific tho
 
7:36 PM
@Luggage thanks Stallman
 
Gotta read the license, but MIT is one of the common and easiest to read/understand.
 
way to ruin software with your terrible yellow beard
 
just use this when picking a license
 
What? I'm explaining things, not giving my opinion
I'm anti-stallman.
 
My problem is actually that I've developed a plugin, that makes use of some "private" assets... I can not make profit out of this plugin because of that, but what happens if a third install the plugin on, let's say, an html5 game for commercial purposes?
 
7:36 PM
@Luggage not accusing you of having a beard
making fun of Stallman for being a bad person
 
@Frondor they are in violation not you
 
oh, gotcha
 
as long as you respect the license, you are good.
 
Cool, thanks again
 
@Enijar young rick?
young rick is the worst rick :P
 
7:38 PM
> "I asked some guys in a chat room and they said this was ok.."
 
@Luggage ship it!
 
@Luggage I'm adding that to my copyrights notice, at the footer section of my website!
 
@Frondor just make sure you don't distribute anything you didn't make
 
or, if you do, you follow their license
most OSS licenses just force you to include it within your application
 
but if it's GPL, don't touch it. It has the plague.
 
7:41 PM
yea you don't wanna get GPL in there
 
@ssube Well... their license doesn't say anything about open source projects, as long as I don't make profit out of it
 
it is the Norton of lics. you can't get rid of it.
 
if it's Blizzard, you'll probably get sued just for funsies
 
lol
yea blizz will probably just send a takedown to your host
 
7:42 PM
@ssube They don't sue the 10.000 private servers out there, why would I get a mail from them?
 
@Frondor they shut private servers down all the time
 
Those privates are making money.. I don't xD
 
really, depends on what you are doing
if you are just using their artwork, probably not as bad as <something worse>
 
@Frondor nice, but you didn't read the license on that statement of mine. You now ose me money.
 
Just had a crash tutorial on Ant
My god, it's like CFM all over again
 
7:44 PM
@ssube They did once, because they got proof about the Pserver owner making profit out of the server, but you know.. Molten wow (now warmane) is live since 2009 and blizzed never pointed a finger to them
Yeah, I'm using artwork
 
then be prepared to get shut down any time
 
@SterlingArcher why would you be using Ant these days?
Maven replaced it like 10 years ago
 
don't they have some kind of fansite packet that you can use, with instructions on properly using it?
 
@KevinB I'm using in-game assets to replicate an in-game feature for use on websites, that's all :D
 
Maven is painful
never heard of Ant, though
 
7:45 PM
Like a notification
 
@ssube we're building an environment that depends on it.
 
if you're using in game art for your website, I dont' think that counts as fair use, but IANAL
 
maven is like yeoman, npm and grunt all together
 
Maven is perfectly fine unless you're doing something dumb
it's opinionated to keep you from being a moron
 
@Luggage Grunt? What is this? Early 2015? Real developers use Gulp
 
7:46 PM
notice how almost every java project has the same fairly sane one command build process
 
@Frondor to be perfectly safe, claim "fair use" on the game art and DO NOT include any logos (blizz or wow or diablo or w/e game this is for)
still may get taken down, but that is what I'd do
 
@rlemon Do I have to mail them to claim "fair use"?
 
no because it really isn't fair use
fair use is very very limited
 
Fair use means whatever their lawyer says it means
 
it's mostly education or satire, but both have been sued anyways
 
7:48 PM
I suspect you would not be able to collect money from the site
Otherwise, it's their money
$$$$$
 
if a teacher includes a quote in a test, that is 'fair use'. a review using the logo to open the segment on the game is fair use.. using their artwork on your non profit site is not fair use, but you can claim you are stupid and didn't know that.
 
It's crazy how much financial companies love jQuery
 
All companies love jquery
 
@rlemon in which case they DMCA shut your server down, instead of suing you for $3 billion
 
I don't think it's just financial companies
 
7:49 PM
which makes me want to die
 
@ssube yes
 
Guys it's a joke
Becuase they use a lot of $
GET IT
 
This is what I'm doing: recordit.co/VLIKSzCy9N
 
hurhurhurhur
 
HE GETS IT
 
7:50 PM
yea that is not fair use
 
Fuck them then xD
 
you could be asked to take that down
 
But I'm not making money with it! :(
 
> fuck those guys who made this thing I very much enjoy and wanna get paid for it. assholes.
@Frondor so?
 
Just rip some graphics from some random deviant art account and slightly change their hue
 
7:50 PM
I can make a shit site with their artwork for their game and hurt their image overall
just not making money isn't enough to use someone elses IP
I'm not trying to convince you not to make it
I'm just outlining (how I understand) the legalities of it
 
@rlemon There are shitloads of sites, using their logos and artwork hurting their image, check wowwiki for example
 
@Frondor great.
I don't care.
 
@Frondor that makes it harder to sue for damages but not any harder to shut you down
 
I'm just telling you what I understand the law to be
 
So, just because someone else does something, it means that you should?
 
7:52 PM
I kknow, I'm just trying to understand
 
If your friends were all jumping off of bridges, would you?
 
if you made money, then they would have a nice neat damages case and could sue for something like 100x what you made
 
I won't get hurt; other people are doing it too
 
@ndugger yes, just yell parkour
 
just come up with your own artwork, stop being lazy
 
7:52 PM
ah, touche'
art is tedious and annoying
 
or go on fiver and get someone else to do it for $5
seriously..
 
@ndugger if that friend was Kiefer Sutherland in 1987 I would jump off the bridge
 
me too
 
fiverr is sweet for art
 
I can do art
 
7:53 PM
@KevinB Not lazy bro, if I use my own artwork, the plugin gets way better, but the problem is that the base philosophy of it lays on the game itself
 
$5 per pixel though
 
my gf did stuff on there briefly, most of the gigs were easy enough
 
their whole business strategy is roughly "pay $5 to get one thumbnail, then hire us for more"
like previewing designers
 
7:54 PM
^ I'm gonna use fiver for custom icons for SU
 
yea but if you only need a one off it is great
we used it for a logo design.
 
@rlemon If those examples are high quality, then I'm jesus
 
Other wow fan sites have used achievement systems similar to wow without directly copying wow's artwork, you could do the same. just some simple html/css giving it a clean look.
 
didn't end up using their logo, but for $5 we got 10 logos to choose from, and probably would have taken one if we decide to change logos
@ndugger that was the first result.
I always suggest (like ebay) go with most positive reviews
 
oodge?
 
7:56 PM
owldge?
 
Ooohhh a badger snap!
 
@rlemon there are fiverrs to give you good reviews on your fiverrr products
 
hooterdge
 
it's a never ending cycle!
 
@KevinB Well... what you see are templates, people is free to create its own template for displaying the achievements
 
well now
 
Any recommendations on good earbuds? I think I owe it to myself to use something nicer than the generic iPod ones.
 
I use fiverr to do my actual work
$5 per react component
works out pretty nice :p
 
@ndugger 900+ buyers ...
 
7:59 PM
 
Jesus.
 

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