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8:10 PM
Hi! Where are properties of a file (for example for .doc author, title and etc) stored in Windows?
you can come up with a lot of scenarios for this
say, you're with your family in your car, wife + 3 kids
some random pedestrian in front
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On your hard drive.
you can go to a full stop to save the pedestrian
but there's a car behind you that's so close if you stop will inevitably crash
and risk killing your children in the back
@milleniumbug assuming you own 1:One
optimally, you want to kill the pedestrian
even if in theory you could've saved them
8:12 PM
@AlexM. why inevitably? Cars are supposed to transmit emergency braking wirelessly really soon
you assume the car behind is smart
in this scenario the car behind you would start braking a few us after you
@AlexM. you're also assuming many things, so what? This one is sensible
it doesn't even need to be self-driven
coming up with scenarios implies assuming
you assume things to provide solutions
to provide one solution actually
and if the scenario doesn't fit in your solution, it's bad
@AlexM. Emergency automatic brake is mandatory for 5-star safety rating as of 2015 FYI
ok, so the car behind doesn't meet that specification
it's a possible case
8:14 PM
in a few years from now, hardly
I'd say we'll have those mandatory before self-driven cars get into action
just because they might brake more abruptly than regular drivers
man, it's crazy how you have so many solutions to these problems people try to solve
every problem, solved, bam
if only they'd listen to me eh
I mean I get your point but I'm also trying to keep it real.
Self-driven cars can and will react more sharply, and it already happened
Google cars have been rear-ended a few times IIRC
people here still drive 15 year old cars
it will take a while until every car on the road meets the standard
at this rate there won't be self driving cars in my lifetime
why do I even bother eh
rite
8:17 PM
@AlexM. oh sure
I'm kind of a devil's advocate now anyway
it would help if you'd stop being so at either one extreme
but never in the middle
that'd be boring.
you also claim to be realistic
and at the same time state that these are not problems
and there are already solutions
again, admittedly the problem you described had happened
so you, to some extent, already won with your point before you even started
heck, the driver of the google car actually sustained injuries
and he wasn't in the back seat
@BartekBanachewicz IIRC, there's been a couple of accidents with self-driving cars, but the only time they were responsible is when there was a human driving them.
8:28 PM
I'm thinking about getting this one
I'm trying to think of a situation where a single car cannot avoid deaths
but two smart cars connected and communicating could
@Puppy braking "too hard" was when the computer did that
maybe the 2nd car somehow causing the 1st car to crash in some way so as to save everyone
@BartekBanachewicz can hold lots of food yummie
@BartekBanachewicz Not aware of any accidents caused by the computer.
8:29 PM
also would people be ok with allowing their unoccupied parked cars to auto-turn on to participate in an eventual avoidance of an accident
in exchange for free fixing by the company
and eventually some extra $$
so exciting
@StackedCrooked yep.
and is really cheap
@Puppy it appears that you are right, in the case I had in mind the human actually stomped the brake
> While the safety driver did the right thing by applying the brakes, if the autonomous car had been left alone, it might have braked less hard and traveled closer to the crosswalk, giving the car behind a little more room to stop. Would that have prevented the collision? Google says it’s impossible to say.
didn't expect that article to be such nice food for thought
I like it
especially since it's going to become something the average person will have to mind
right, just got the bank cards for my joint bank account with the gf!
it encourages introspection and taking a look at human nature
We are so going to own this whole living together thing :p
8:37 PM
@rubenvb I just gave my GF one of my spare cards vOv
it's for a subaccount though
@BartekBanachewicz sounds equally complicated plus you being "in more control". Note: I tend to overthink these things :p
@rubenvb I generally like to be in control of my money yes
I don't have any spare cards lying around really (well, I do, one for some bank account I never really use)
@BartekBanachewicz well that's the thing: this account is for our money: food, groceries, etc...
@ElimGarak whenever it comes to oldschool RPGs I always mention fallout and baldur's gate but
(discounted atm)
@AlexM. tfw its not underrail
8:41 PM
time to get some work done on the ui system for hate
@AlexM. Might give a try, but speaking of GOG, how does "MONEY BACK GUARANTEE. 30 days coverage after purchase." work?
also check out the full promo for Star Trek games :) @ElimGarak gog.com/promo/…
man my brain gets empty when I think about it
it's just such a freaking hard problem
@ElimGarak basically, if you have problems with your game and the team cannot help you fix it
Only Star Trek games I ever liked were Elite Force 1 & 2 :D
8:42 PM
they give you your money back
not sure if it's no question asked
@ElimGarak It works probably
@AlexM. That sounds reasonable
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I just realised there's 50% you win the jackpot in a lottery.
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Because you can either win it or not win it. That's 2 options, so 50%.
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8:46 PM
@ElimGarak tried those there too? they seem really appreciated
STAR TREK™: 25TH ANNIVERSARY looks like something I'd play too actually
too bad I dunno star trek
looks like a nice adventure game tho
@AlexM. Oh, yeah, the classics definitely. But everything past 2000 is pure shite except Elite Force & Bridge Commander
@Elyse the obvious mistake is assuming that both options have equal share in probability
I always wanted to play Bridge Commander
never got around to it
@Borgleader Oh, yeah, that was in 2002 as well
Amazing gaem, almost forgot about it
Worth playing still because of the mods, you'll forget it was done in 2002
Get the Kobayashi Maru unofficial edition
There was one more that was really good, but it didn't capitalize on the name, it was DS9 themed. It was just called "The Fallen".
I just realized the "C" in MFC refers to "Clusterfuck"
@Dean ^
8:50 PM
microsoft's fantastic clusterfuck
lol, MFC. I'd rather drill my ass with the USG Ishimura
What's MFC supposed to do, anyway
be classful
To provide a foundation that only Microsoft can.
Bartek, what were you doing in Zagreb?
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@ElimGarak Wow. That's a next level of douchebaggery.
8:58 PM
@EtiennedeMartel It would be easier to appreciate it had he parked at a full 45° angle :D
BMW drivers, man.
And it's an old piece of shit at that :D
@набиячлэвэлиь It's a C++89 wrapper on the Windows API
@ElimGarak hey that's @Tony's car
@TonyTheLion :D
9:04 PM
yes, the "89" is correct there
It's a C with glasses wrapper
@Puppy Oh... Oh god
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> This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons.
Man, I need to feed myself with something delicious
9:13 PM
@ElimGarak hmm
also has any1 seen @Lalaland
@Lalaland has
He's been writing JavaScript, he's probably crying in a corner somewhere
last time I saw him he was writing Haskell
maybe he created a vortex
it never was legal
^^^^^^
so
has anyone ever done hoisting into named monadic substates
because I might need just that
why would you even do 2 - 2 to represent a null pointer
actually why would you use anything other than nullptr or 0 before nullptr
the things some people think of wow me
it's le dumb
much like you
> This is a gcc bug.
the first five words in the answer you linked to.
uh I can't believe Reader isn't a part of prelude
@Puppy thanks to a defect report
That should fail everywhere and anyone who depends on that should be transferred to janitorial services at the US embassy in Colombia.
so what? DRs exist for a reason
9:24 PM
> Effect on original feature: Valid C++ 2003 code may fail to compile or produce different results in this International Standard, as the following example illustrates:
"which is a defect report against C++11" IRTA it's legal C++03 and illegal C++11
I want to play underrail but I also want to read stuff
aaaaa
hmm
there should be this way to like delegate some activity to a mechanical thing
and at the end take all observations into your own brain
maybe I'm thinking of something else then, there was definitely some funky shit w.r.t. gcc optimizing some expressions too early and producing illegal results.
@AlexM. I think I can see why you're not getting laid :P
9:28 PM
why
well, regardless of legality, it's immoral as fuck
I wouldn't delegate getting laid to a mechanical thing
getting laid is not immoral!
whistles who knows
nor is it illegal
@AlexM. tell that to idiots religious people
hmm reader hoisting is another thing I didn't touch yet
ew
@EtiennedeMartel man you're making me hungry
what for
what did I do to you
@sehe kinda
What did my livecoding viewers do. That yellow stuff, it'll kill you
@sehe Mustard?
9:32 PM
looks like mustard
it's called mustard I think :P the best thing
It's mustard.
On smoked meat.
@Borgleader Nah, kpop bby :D You don't like? :D
Oh, wait, Alex likes kpop!
@AlexM. If my mustard looks like radioactive, I'll pass
ueh syntax coloring in ST is so primitive
that being said that mustard looks particularly bad
so yea I kinda agree with sehe
Thats what "regular" mustard looks like... well here anyway
mustard + horseradish is the best
it looks dark green-ish
and it burns your everything
9:35 PM
@EtiennedeMartel looks a little too raw to me
fuck.
Data constructor `ElementNode' has existential type variables, a context, or a specialised result type
      ElementNode :: forall a.
                     Element a =>
                     a -> [ElementNode] -> ElementNode
      (Use ExistentialQuantification or GADTs to allow this)
wat
VS's intellisense is randomly not working for a bunch of files.
why isn't that covered by RankNTypes
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Why do I have a pillow with the American flag on it.
9:36 PM
sounds like a bug
@Puppy time to party then
@StackedCrooked drink every time VS freezes
@StackedCrooked time to play stabround
VS freezes a lot at work, not so much at home
@ElimGarak kpop like american pop songs is just softcore porn with music on top of it
kpop looks more innocent
9:41 PM
@Borgleader Why you have to get all real and stuff bby
and simple
@AlexM. that stuff is way too addictive
@Borgleader and we like it that way
I've been waiting for Fallout 4 for 7 years, it's on my desktop and I can't stomach it anymore.
lol
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Q: Vector inside a class. C2065 error

MasafiI have vector of my own objects inside a class. But when i want to do something with this vector, i have error :/ game.h #include "renderSystem.h" //there only #include "console_color.h" #include "level.h" //there only #include "renderSystem.h" #include "gameObject.h" class Game { vector<Ga...

> In renderSystem and level i wrote only includes
Wtf?!
Visual studio 2015
//And i have 0:43 AM, so may be i just need to sleep :/
9:44 PM
~~gamedev~~
> And errors are (i cant give you logs, because they are on russian :/ )
~~russian gamedev~~
> Masafi
9 degree, School
By day: russian school student, it school samsung moscow student.
By night: c++ coder, some of android coder.
And always gamer
by night... but only until 1AM!
forgot SO shitposter
why hasn't hinoi team been posted yet
Share all the kpops!
I don't like any songs by these girls but they're the hottest
Girls' Generation (Hangul: 소녀시대; So Nyeo Si Dae), also known as SNSD, is a South Korean girl group formed by S.M. Entertainment. The group is composed of eight members: Taeyeon, Sunny, Tiffany, Hyoyeon, Yuri, Sooyoung, Yoona, and Seohyun. Girls' Generation officially debuted on August 5, 2007 with its debut single "Into the New World" and subsequently gained some attention with their self-titled debut album. However, it was not until 2009 that they rose to prominence with the single "Gee", which claimed the top spot on KBS's Music Bank for a record-breaking nine consecutive weeks and was named...
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Ven
Wtf is going lounge here?
I have a female friend that knows all their names, every band... It's surreal
it's easy, look at wikipedia
brb, going to South Korea. Yeah, but she knows them IRL, with no access to wiki :D
9:48 PM
Taeyeon, Sunny, Tiffany, Hyoyeon, Yuri, Kim Jong-Un, Sooyoung, Yoona, and Seohyun
To me, they're all part of the same band called kpop
ahahah
that sooyoung chick is the best
<3 <3 <3 <3
@milleniumbug oh fucking god
@milleniumbug the worst thing is that the ghc maintainers actually take this stuff seriously :P
Ven
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz can 't people just look at the type signatures :v
9:50 PM
@Ven I've repeated this too many times. cc @milleniumbug
@Borgleader Since classes are done for a while, what do I work on?
counterterrorism policing, a.k.a., "Reading Twitter"
@ThePhD you could help me with UI system design
@BartekBanachewicz UI system design?
9:52 PM
@ThePhD I'm trying to model UI in a purely functional way and for some reason my brain is struggling like hell with it
@ThePhD wtv the heck you want <3
> functional
gg I can't help you
@ThePhD it'd do you good to take a look from the other side
isn't reactive programming the functional way to do UI
@AlexM. I think my approach is better.
Ven
Ven
9:55 PM
@BartekBanachewicz did you have time to look at elm?
Elm is reactive and doesn't fit my application that well
I need something to fit into my idea of reality framework
I have essentially two big problems
A) Get thing to work
B) integrate thing
B will probably require some clever hoisting and more flexibility at the framework API side
A is what I'm working on right now
@BartekBanachewicz well, I won't be rehashing what I said because you don't care anyway
@milleniumbug I just think there are many much more important issues
@milleniumbug FWIW I appreciate that you actually took the time to fill in the ticket though
I don't know if today's the day
I want to try to make the VS 2015.1 setup not crash before it even launches. .-.
oh god, what have you done to me =/
10:02 PM
You did it to yourself.
@ThePhD T_T
@Borgleader Let's go to South Korea together
@Borgleader pat pat There, there. You are forgiven.
Alright.
Today's the day.
Today's the day I make that SHITTY FUCKING GODDAMN hdr format display properly.
Oh, and I have to integrate OpenEXR into my project.
.... Ngngngh. I kinda don't want to...
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I am so fucking awesome.
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I'm the most amazing person on this planet.
10:08 PM
here we go
Yes you are! \o/
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Sometimes I cry because of how beautiful I am.
yes I'd cry if I were as buttiful as you \
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ur butt-ugly
your mom begs to differ
10:11 PM
q_q
It won't display right
@ElimGarak pls halp hdr radiance format so unrulllyy
Everytime my PC goes to sleep, Curse crashes. I guess it doesn't like losing access to the D3D device.
hmfph my github push hangs for some reason
@EtiennedeMartel Curse? (P.S: How you liking all that snow?)
@Borgleader The voice chat client (it makes going to see The Hateful Eight quite annoying)
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, speaking of movies, did you see The Forece Awakens?
10:22 PM
I did two days ago.
I'll say this: competent people make competent films.
@BartekBanachewicz lol
@EtiennedeMartel The Force Awakens is not a useful example of this.
@EtiennedeMartel lol
@ThePhD Switch to exr bby :D
@ElimGarak I still have to read in these hdr files thooough.
10:33 PM
personally I've been considering renaming it to The Farce Awakens
@ThePhD Well, there's a few meta lines at the beginning and everything is just shitty RGBE :D
uh seriously
wtf is with github
can't push or pull
git shove / tackle
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Just realised.
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All subroutines are coroutines.
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10:34 PM
Many just yield once and only once.
This movie looks familiar, is it from Menace to society? There are multiple similarly themed ones from that time, confuses me every time. :/
Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version libssh-0.7.0
uh is github really using libssh-0.7?
@Borgleader Started watching X-Files, hope I'll stick with it! :D
@ElimGarak updating git helped
@BartekBanachewicz No, they just advertise that for laughs
10:48 PM
@CatPlusPlus isn't that ancient?
@ElimGarak I think I'm supposed to watch the X-Files movie now (it realeased just before season 6)
why do I have libssh-2.1.something then
I like the 90s vibe of X-Files :)
libssh2 is a completely different library which is at 1.6 now
10:50 PM
@CatPlusPlus there
anyway it's refusing to use my key now
@Borgleader Ahahah, the vibe is palpable. Also dat theme
A bit weird because I'm watching X-Files after Californication
sweet
fixed
you know, Lemmy passing away is sad at one hand
at another, he's moving on as a legend
> We'd express our sorrow to hear that we've lost the absolutely irreplaceable Lemmy... but have the strong suspicion that he'd have no use for such sentiments.
this is a way to go

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