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user1646075
12:00 AM
@sehe At the risk of provoking a flame war that never changes the mind of one side or the other, please compare the per-capita murder rates from US vs. The Rest Of The World. I feel pretty bloody peaceful here in aus.
 
Hehehe. It seemed another clue went whoosh
 
user1646075
looks like it!
 
@sehe hey, @aclarke is fine, he's only missing clues, nothing else ;)
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: ATT: engage sarcasm detectors at #12 gauge points before entering [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
@Braiam He's perfectly fine, no doubt. I'm just a bit cryptic
 
user1646075
@sehe definitely - i usually get the sarcs. Care to enlighten me for the hell of it?
 
12:03 AM
Aaargh. I'll never reach the end of that talk
 
user3010322
@sehe It's not anything you don't already know from being next to Robot.
 
@sehe I'll turn them up to 11...
 
there's no end*
 
@aclarke Wokay. I meant to cynically imply that suicide is a quick way to inner peace. (And therefore, guns might actually be useful for once)
@ThePhD You forget you looked closely at this lib (porting it to MSVC, right)?
 
user1646075
@sehe ok - didn't know which side you stand on. I'm a newbie 'round thesa-he'ya parts, y'all
 
12:05 AM
xD
~90% of people here are Europeans, HTH
 
we're fat and we stand on all sides
 
user1646075
and your women have hairy armpits.
 
user1646075
/ducks
 
starts counting, obviously not hair
 
Enormously
 
user1646075
12:06 AM
nothing wrong with that.
 
Afterwards, you're gonna be sweaty regardless.
 
user1646075
i thought aus was almost the fattest nation in rthe world now.
 
user1646075
sWeary?
 
something like that, yes
 
user1646075
GAHHH even i carn spol
 
user1646075
12:07 AM
keeps your nose warm
 
@aclarke maybe, ask @chmod-711-telkitty
 
My uninformed completely non-satirical question of the day: Are there any animals in Aus besides the Cane toad on the East coast?
 
user1646075
they be just down the road from me, we've had a bit of a chat
 
user1646075
ummmm, deadly or (ob)noxious ones?
 
user1646075
there's a shit-load of unique creatures, and count of dangerous ones is s source of pride too
 
user3010322
12:08 AM
@sehe Half of his slides wouldn't compile at all on MSVC (No char16/32 or related string types, no unicode literals, so you'd just have hex literals in their place or just raw numbers). The rest is punting around with ICU (regex and normalization) and Boost.Locale, and talking about how vanilla C++ supports none of these things at all.
 
user1646075
Redback spider (a slightly more dangerous sister of the black and brown widows);
 
user3010322
There's also some committee member asking questions / sitting in the background talking about how nobody's made any good unicode proposals.
 
user3010322
And that about sums up that talk.
 
@ThePhD It's a good talk, in short.
 
user1646075
Funnel Web Spider (aggressive as fuck - if you disturb it, it'll flick it's cigarette butt into the dirt, raise up it's fangs and scream "COME AT ME BRO!"
 
user1646075
12:10 AM
tiger snakes, brown snakes, inland taipans, death adder, box jellyfish, crocodiles, blue ring octopus.
 
user1646075
Gonna holiday here this summer?
 
user3010322
@sehe Good, but like I said if you made it as far as the screenshots you've shown, you should've already passed all the interesting bits that would be useful.
 
user1646075
@ThePhD where is this slide show you speak of? how many pages back...
 
user1646075
oooo unicode - what a nightmare. People really going for it hey? good luck.
 
user1646075
12:14 AM
i had to deal with it in databases, and I've had enough of it ;-)
 
And in (good) databases, it's actually quite easy, AFAIR
(basically you just define the charset, encoding and collation on tables/columns)
 
user1646075
it's ok, but it still melts your brain if you only speak one language.
 
Though it can get funky with input validation
@aclarke Depends on which language, Japan
 
user1646075
Being brung up on a simple, unaccented language with only 26 letters, give-or-take, it's a leap. Might be a bit easier for European brains!
 
Véél beter
 
user1646075
12:17 AM
@sehe aggghhhh!
 
user1646075
dutch?
 
It's actually quite technical, and I don't think understanding languages makes any difference whatsever
@aclarke Inderdaad
Anyhoops, I made it.
Noght all :)
 
user1646075
@sehe sort-of, bit of a mind-f*ck discovering the interesting ways humans have invented to represent words.
 
user1646075
"Unicode Demsytified" was a strangely engrossing book
 
CloudFlare on a dev instance what a great idea good fucking job
:cripes:
 
user1646075
12:30 AM
why do people think that setting the aircon to 42C will make it warm up quicker? STUPID!
 
user1646075
better set it to 10C to get the temp back to normal quickly ;-(
 
user3010322
top kek
 
user1646075
Because my time is too valuable to type the extra 2 letters....

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/154254/can-i-reference-a-command-before-after
 
@aclarke Why does it even have that setting
 
user1646075
12:46 AM
well, maybe I exaggerate slightly
 
user3010322
"slightly"
 
Okay I finished dull move-files-and-set-up-redirects task I can work on something more interesting
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus Such as? :o
 
Replacing Django's runserver with something more clever
Also I'm thinking about making console-based workbench kind of thing
 
1:11 AM
@CatPlusPlus Such as?
 
I store my config in JSON now, and the original doesn't watch it for changes
Also I have reports of problems with statics
Also it doesn't need to print every request for every little static file
Also it should drop to PDB automatically
Also it shouldn't die because of syntax error
Also it should bind to 0.0.0.0 by default
etc
 
@CatPlusPlus make it so that there are less static files
compress images into a single one
compress js and css into a single file
 
Yes that is a great thing to do in development
 
@Praetorian I had to do that because it said i needed to type in more stuff cause majority of my stuff was code. If it bothers you that much then leave. dumbass... — Armon Safai 1 min ago
 
user3010322
My JSON serializer doesn't realize that my type is included in 2 separate assemblies...
 
1:21 AM
Pro DF tip: don't let your legendary spearman go insane while clad in nigh-invulnerable armor and wielding a spear that can cut through anything like it was butter.
 
user3010322
So it errors when it attempts to parse the $type declaration JSON.NET throws down.
 
@chris If only there's a "how to not be a jerk" question around on SO that I can use my dupehammer with...
 
@Praetorian why would i want help from an asshole like you, clearly you didn't want to help. You just wanted to be an ass and comment on my post "i gave you a -1 for this reason". Now go suck a dick — Armon Safai 1 min ago
 
wow
 
oh boy
 
user1646075
1:24 AM
@milleniumbug Watching the internets is like watching pre-school children play. /no sinister overtones intended/
 
Hello.
 
user1646075
Hello.
 
If you won a 'loser' title, did you win or did you lose?
 
user1646075
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh hi, brake surgery went really well on the weekend, thanks for your wisdoms.
 
@chmod711telkitty You win. Trust me.
@Rapptz Hello
 
user1646075
1:26 AM
@chmod711telkitty a true loser always comes second-last.
 
what if it's a two rats race? if you came second-last, you would have won?
 
user1646075
@chmod711telkitty ummmm, a cat eats the loser, they don't even place?
 
@milleniumbug I give this kind of attitude only to people who are already acting like douches like him. You say good luck on getting help with that attitude, but he wasn't even trying to help, so youre a dumbass who don't make sense — Armon Safai 42 secs ago
 
user1646075
HAHA it gets better
 
just vote to close and flag
 
1:31 AM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: youre a dumbass who don't make sense [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
 
@aclarke Cool :)
 
user1646075
reckon! I felt really proud of myself. Got the callipers off without snapping the metal pipe, dropped no tools on my toes, covered in filth.. and I'm still alive. That's a win/win
 
user1646075
and - turns out, friction material DOES grip better than metal-on-metal ;=/
 
lol, 24 dwarves are feeling miserable, and 2 are ecstatic. Those two are the ones currently butchering everyone.
 
Hi Robot
 
1:47 AM
@milleniumbug The insult against me was that he just came in and commented -1 for this reason, without giving any help. I don't give two shits if others find my comment to him offensive. Btw, didn't i tell you to go suck a dick? Why are you still here — Armon Safai 22 secs ago
 
user1646075
how is he still posting when it's on hold?
 
You can comment on closed questions just fine
 
user1646075
damn
 
Geez someone needs to be ignored
I seriously hope he's trolling
 
user1646075
this is a bit like watching a cat torment a mouse with a fang-hole in it's flank.
 
1:49 AM
he's probably question banned now
 
user1646075
not saying the mouse doesn't deserve it...
 
TIL std::shared_ptr doesn't have a specialised deleter for arrays
 
I wanna see what @Praetorian has to say next — Armon Safai 2 mins ago
He's seriously trolling hard.
 
Hes not trolling, he mad
 
user1646075
@Borgleader +1
 
1:53 AM
Whoever thought a -1 would bring on such a tirade! :)
 
@Praetorian I know, right?
 
Ignoring him is probably going to piss him off even more, so I'm gonna do just that
 
user1646075
/wondering when I might start to feel sorry for him
 
user1646075
Codd help us if he finds his way in here
 
Meh, I tried answering respectfully and politely. It didn't work. If he's not trolling, he's in need of some help even with understanding what people are saying.
 
1:57 AM
lol, he reverted the gibberish.
 
user1646075
he seems real, unfortunately. Fragile pride is seriously hurt over the criticism
 
The rules got unpinned.
 
Someone write the thing I'm busy
 
user1646075
wonder if it might help to show him this rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/47436/…
 
Da Rules. No, wait, Da Rules. Read them.
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2:23 AM
0
Q: Baffling compiler bug?

slkpgThis simple declaration in a C function char id [64] = ""; causes a problem only when it is not used. If a program user option flag is set I strncpy the name of the token to this array and then printf a message for parser debugging. Just tracing the token stream on the display. If the option ...

Somehow I don't think it's really a compiler bug
 
@Code-Apprentice given they don't even mention WHICH compiler.... it's hard to answer the question anyway
 
user1646075
" very old, high quality commercial C/C++ compiler for win NT running on win 7" - clearly he can't tell, or he'd have to shoot us. CIA?
 
@aclarke I vote NSA.
 
user1646075
NCIS - it's probably Abby. what's that two idiots, one keyboard link?
 
user1646075
no, how dare I slag off Abby. McGee of course.
 
2:30 AM
Don't be hatin on my girl!
 
user1646075
She's mine, e-hands off
 
Something to do with health care apparently (the code)
 
user1646075
Also, can't be talking about MSVC, so at least we know that much.
 
@aclarke no they wouldn't say "High Quality"
 
user1646075
2:32 AM
Zortech?
 
user1646075
nahhh - that definitely had bugs. But DAMN is was fast for it's day
 
Oh, maybe that wasn't what you meant, but it was at least as much fun for a minute or two anyway.
 
 
user1646075
@JerryCoffin HAHA love it. Will save that for when I'm on a projector screen, back to the door, waiting for people to arrive
 
2:45 AM
Is it good or bad that I can recognise kernel code
 
user3010322
:3c
 
user1646075
when it flashes past on TV? That's buzz isn't it? Sometimes, /etc/init.d is dumped...
 
Also god dammit Spotify why are you randomly stopping playback
 
user1646075
extra Ebert stars awarded for an obscure language
 
Good morning.
> Similarly, cookies for a given host are shared across all the ports on that host, even though the usual "same-origin policy" used by web browsers isolates content retrieved via different ports.
tsk tsk tsk
 
user1646075
3:19 AM
Boo YA! Try using this explanation in your next attempt to impress a member of your preferred gender: skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/23138
 
4:00 AM
Come on Photoshop, for millennia you still don't have a batch export script for PNGs!
 
aw man.
do you guys know a better way to do compile time printing?
ah well
 
#warning, though I think it's only for MSVC.
@Rapptz lol fizz buzz.
@Rapptz Maybe someday with deprecated.
 
I wish I had prettier diagnostics for compile time printing
even disabling the ugly caret and the template instantiation depth gives me that ugly mess
 
heh... you're doing the fizzbuzz exercise in TMP?
 
I did it a different way last year.
 
user3010322
4:24 AM
@melak47 @Borgleader Perhaps the solution is not strictly constrained Delauney triangulation of points, but instead slicing up the polygon into smaller convex shapes and then triangulating those?
 
Is Intel 5gh gen gonna suck?
 
user3010322
Remember that Delauney wants to produce optimal meshes, but... for our case, I don't think we need optimal meshes, really.
 
user3010322
Extra triangles can be eaten up by the GPU, and it can probably save us a whole lot of CPU time.
 
user1646075
4:55 AM
 
On my die 42 is replaced with 69
 
5:58 AM
1, 0 & UB
 
6:09 AM
Wait until they find an off my one bug in GCC where it doesn't check main() for UB
 
user2176127
is there a difference between ctor() = default; and ctor() = {};?
 
yes
the latter doesn't compile
 
user2176127
right :D i meant ctor() {} of course. i knew something was off
 
None. Unless someone corrects me.
 
@user2176127 ctor() = default makes the class keep its triviality, ctor() {} doesn't.
 
6:15 AM
Cool. I didn't know that.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz Depending on the members' initialisation, of course
 
6:32 AM
1
Q: Is it possible to do this lambda event manager in C++?

danijarI want to write an event manager that supports passing an arbitrary number of arguments. To show you the form, here is an example. Please note that one goal is to not need a class definition for every event. Instead, events are represented by string names. First, lets register four listeners to t...

 
7:16 AM
@sehe IT IS NOT BLANK DAMMIT
 
7:45 AM
ahoy
 
@Rapptz Willing to provide an answer?
 
@LucDanton I'm curious to see an answer, if anything.
 
It's pretty easy to implement, but too much effort. :v
 
"easy" and "too much effort" in the same sentence...
 
Eh.. I wouldn't say it's easy...
 
7:51 AM
I kinda wanted to leave a comment with a rough sketch for a solution, but I’m not sure how much time I want to spend on that.
 
If you make an answer in the future I'd upvote it!
 
@Code-Apprentice They are not opposites of each other.
Something can be very easy but require lots of work.
For example, plucking all strawberries from a 20km^2 field of strawberry plants.
 
the overall task isn't easy in that case
 
Getting up in the morning is easy but too much effort
3
 
@PolymorphicPotato I disagree. If something requires a lot of effort, I wouldn't call it "easy".
 
8:00 AM
Officer suspended from horse.
6
 
@Code-Apprentice his example is wrong, but his point isn't. A task can be easy to comprehend/solve, just takes a lot of time to work through.
¬_¬ do we have to keep starting xkcd every time it's posted... do we even have to have feeds post it?
 
shh
 
I take that as agreement.
 
morning
 
Xeo
@thecoshman yeees
 
8:15 AM
the only reason I ever see XKCD is because its posted here
 
isn't it amazing how hungry you get as soon as the dentist tells you not to eat anything for an hour?
 
@TonyTheLion get an RSS reader nub cake
 
@thecoshman maybe.... he doesn't want to read silly web comics?
 
@sehe then he shouldn't respond to my questioning it being posted here automatically in a way that makes it sounds like he likes it being posted here automatically.
 
what?
 
8:21 AM
^ that, double it please
 
what.
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
y'all idiota
 
8:30 AM
argrgrgrh
> You have included the Google Maps API multiple times on this page. This may lead to unexpected errors.
Google Maps API Y U NO INCLUDE GUARDS
 
Go to the place where you found these applications. From there, turn left and walk for fifty metres, then enter the cave behind the waterfall and you'll find the unicorns. — R. Martinho Fernandes 2 mins ago
 
I'm going to do a presentation at work about rvalue refs and move semantics. Any suggested resources or stuff you think I should cover?
 
@jalf google?
 
@thecoshman :p
 
@jalf do the people at work already know what move means in general and why it's useful?
 
8:36 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah, everyone kind of has a general idea of that, but without the in-depth understanding of how it works, how to use it, pitfalls etc
 
I mean, it might be interesting to talk about C++14 changes like how lambdas work with rvalues if they already know how it works. If they don't I'd focus on the problem it solves, common areas of uncertainty to novices (how it works with smart pointers etc) and so on. I don't think you'd need too many resources to cover it.
 
@jalf rule of zero is the most important imo
the only real pitfall of rvalue refs I know is universal refs stealing your lunch when you really didn't want them to
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes those are beautiful :p
 
There's the setup for a joke on slide 1.
"Who in here knows about RAII? ... Rule of three? ... Rule of five? ... Rule of zero? ... SFINAE? No, don't run out, there's no SFINAE in this presentation."
3
 
8:45 AM
:D
 
@Rapptz Against my better judgement.
 
Ooh. You answered. I'll read it.
Oh I see.
You took advantage of the OP's syntax choice.
i.e. events.fire("key", {42, "John"});
I actually considered that syntax weird
I was going to edit it... cause no one calls functions that way..
But eh
It might have changed the entire question.
 
@Rapptz It’s a happy coinkidink. ‘Mapping’ a pack to arg_type { boost::any { args } ... } is always an option.
 
Yeah. True.
 

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