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15:00
@SomeGuy dayum, when does that kick in 3k?
yeh
I think it's funny when I see guys making tons of edits for rep then they get to 2k
have no idea what to do
@SomeGuy ta. Well still a lot for me to get yet.
I do it as most of the Tumblr questions tagged Tumblr are CSS / JS issues.
this chat is what i was looking for for a long time now
and it was always here
Enjoy your stay. We won't let you leave.
15:02
i still edit/review from time to time but nothing like before
i won't leave
I've been on chat for 2 years
chat > main
15:02
@SomeGuy straight, no pee pee break?
didn't oyu notice i'm on chat non stop since i joined some days ago?
it's a curse
@mikedidthis Got a tube
check out the js room it's always crowded :P
@SomeGuy ewwww.
I've closed the tab for chat for maybe 5 times in the entire course
15:03
^cool album for psychedelia lovers
most of my recent rep is bounties
;)
I soo wanted the boba head for bounty hunting.
Oh, I realized something amazing the other day
@rlemon you do look like a bounty hunter ;)
i've gained 100 rep by tags wiki editing :D
15:04
A great way to learn about the gotchas of a language is to check the top questions in that tag
^ this
i always do this
@easwee I did notice, haha
I'm messing around with some C++, and it really helps
@BillyMathews - I think I spend way to much time on pc - atleast 8h at work and atleast 5h at home
:S
i go out only for concerts
15:06
I go out only to buy chocolate or drugs
Amazon won't ship those boards to Canada
fml
haha
so much to learn
@easwee Standing desk
can't help it
@rlemon The BeagleBoards?
15:07
i dream of a day where print designers won't use pt when designing for web
i would so slam those apples
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you have to see this... nsfw... izismile.com/2014/03/12/…
@SomeGuy yes
hahahahahahha
15:08
haha
good
@PatsyIssa pt?
points for fonts instead of pixels
em is where it's at
rem
Unit standoff
I lost my religion. REM FTW
rem is the one to use
eh fuck it just use px
!!youtube REM losing my religion
15:10
REM sleep is pretty amazing, yeah
Rem also refers to Remy Sharp, the creator of JSBin
R.E.M
only REM I care about
@RyanKinal I hope will agree
R.E.M. is brilliant
Or, was, I suppose
groovesharks code is fucking confusing
they import everything it seems
@RyanKinal still. that is one fucked up music video
love the song.
music video concerns me
15:14
@rlemon +10000 ems are just confusing.
is there a reason to use em's anymore?
because they are better than px
but rem is best
the zoom implementation in browsers works differently than it used to anyway
easier to understand at least
with rems its easier to maintain a baseline.
15:15
rem is better than em since it's not parent font size related
yeah
^ that.
@rlemon Yeah, it's a little odd
but i can't see a reason to use em
with rem what would your base unit be ?
1rem = 16px
15:16
whatever you set the html to be
@easwee There isn't one, use rem
html { font-size: 62.5%; }
body { font-size: 1.4rem; } /* =14px */
h1   { font-size: 2.4rem; } /* =24px */
Seriously (if you didn't already) read this article one rem! snook.ca/archives/html_and_css/font-size-with-rem
still - even for rem - what's the reason?
user652649
vh vw ftw
15:17
advantage i mean
@easwee read that article!
all of it.
thoroughly.
@easwee for me, I use rems as I prefer to size based on a relation / abstract value. If my base is 16px / 1rem, I want my header to be 3 times bigger, so 3rem, etc.
I can only think of minecraft / lego as an example.
> The em unit is relative to the font-size of the parent, which causes the compounding issue. The rem unit is relative to the root—or the html—element. That means that we can define a single font size on the html element and define all rem units to be a percentage of that.
15:19
to me it makes sense.
most other things inherit so why shouldn't I think of fonts inheriting size
2 mins ago, by rlemon
html { font-size: 62.5%; }
body { font-size: 1.4rem; } /* =14px */
h1   { font-size: 2.4rem; } /* =24px */
yeah but other than for text zoom it give no advantage over px
clerity
Not really, no.
Since I read that article, I have always used rem
readability
understandability
15:20
and, text zoom.
@BillyMathews you are really slow this morning
STOP REPEATING
48 secs ago, by easwee
yeah but other than for text zoom it give no advantage over px
text zoom implementation is changed todays
@rlemon just this morning? ;)
15:20
That one was my joke ^.^
so it does not really affect that
@BillyMathews Sure it was, bub.
well he is from the UK
shots fired
Because he said there was no advantage other than that.. I was just pointing out that that was an advantage.. why do you need more? :P
15:21
in America ... no one was surprised
lol ok
!!\help
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15:22
@mikedidthis he's slagging off the UK.. We should do something.
@rlemon Hahaha, let's get Loke in here to discuss that
@BillyMathews he is slagging you off, not me :D
1 min ago, by rlemon
well he is from the UK
@BillyMathews he merely stated your country of origin
mike has that sexy UK accent. he is okay
!!/listcommands
@ZachSaucier 420, help, listen, eval, coffee, refresh, forget, info, listcommands, tell, afk, awsm, ban, unban, color, convert, define, doge, domain, findcommand, github, google, hang, inhistory, jquery, learn, 5318008, aliens, format, fa, easytools, wherearethegoats, tobacconist, joystick, fools, cake, cool, vengeance, ln, protip, slidepoop, zirak_naked, loktar, artisticpoop, crustypoop, buttstuff, poopkittie, daybreak, rfc, man, ಠ_ಠ..., getit, resources, html5unleashed, jspattern, ajax
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!!zirak_naked
15:24
why is there so much about poop in the bot commands
@ZachSaucier Ask Wes
!!slidepoop
in JavaScript, Mar 13 '13 at 1:40, by rlemon
(Random Fact, when rlemon was 13 he pooped on a slide. he isn't proud of it, but he felt it was time to confess. I'm sorry slide.)
15:25
!!badass
sweeeet
!!poopkittie
Did you guys know we had a meme bot too?
15:26
in JavaScript, Jun 9 '13 at 20:28, by Florian Margaine
I'm pooping. And the kittie is bothering me. Fuck you, kittie! But you're so cute ;_;
Esai had made one
It was a silly idea, though
But an interesting project
notbad.jpg
@rlemon hilarious. Is that separate from any episode?
!!html5unleashed
!!aliens
!!shmoke
15:29
hadn't seen that movie in a while
!!daybreak
enjoy
@CapricaSix that needs to be changed so it doesn't reply...
@wes
For bigger projects I usually try to use SVG icons. For smaller projects I tend to use an icon font of some type. Any opinions on using either/favorites of either?
Last time I used SVGs I cried.
15:37
I use font icons
My current project, I only have 3 icons, so font-face
But...
I would love to use these: jxnblk.github.io/geomicons-open
Brent Jackson is creating some amazing stuff, base.css is a great read.
I'm using this with my current project fontello.com
using around 30 icons
I've used both glyphicons (base.css') and fontello
the question is more - if the icons are custom - should I bother to prepare the icons - or should the designer provide me the icons "ready to use"
15:41
@easwee what do you mean by prepare?
size/color them?
@ZachSaucier What do I get from designer - a ready to use icon font , just icons in vectors in an AI file
or something else?
What ever you can. Ideally ai / svg and font-face.
yeah i guess it depends on how much you pay the designer xD
Well if the designer made the icons, they should have the source.
15:50
posted on March 12, 2014 by Jeremiah Shoaf

    Once thought of as amateurish by professional designers, free and open-source fonts have gone through something of a renaissance in just the last few years. The quality of available free fonts has increased dramatically. To be frank, free fonts don’t have a good reputation, and often they are knock-offs of thoroughly crafted, already established typefaces. So is i

posted on March 12, 2014 by Chris Coyier

I've been a big proponent of icon fonts. Lots of sites really need a system for icons, and icon fonts offer a damn fine system. However, I think assuming you're good with IE 9+, using inline SVG and the <use> element to reference an icon is a superior system. First let's cover how it works. A nice way to handle your icons is to have a folder full of .svg files. … That's one

^ hah talking about icons
easiest way to achieve that with the least markup ?
<img src='https://i.sstatic.net/iLoLr.jpg'/>
3
^ that.
Dayum boy, you smart.
16:03
rofl
i kinda want to type the text :P
Otherwise <a href="#"><img /> Political</a>
Inspired by that website we saw a few weeks ago
@easwee thing is the text is aligned and the icons have different dimensions
still same html
than just give padding-top to a
they aren't links b/w just description
16:05
and position absolute top img
yup but i ll have to set the padding individually
that's what i m trying to avoid
sec
i settup a fiddle
16:05
i'm over working time anyway :D
( . Y . )
2
Does anyone know of a font icon for praying hands?
just set them as a background image center / center = win?
@mikedidthis the problem is that the images aren't equal height
hmm
@PatsyIssa they wouldn't need to be if they were background images :D
gonna try it out but i guess it works ^^
but i ll have to ditch the sprite
and use individual icons
16:12
false
use bg position
and set bg size
bg size takes into account the entire sprite
not the individual image i m targeting
so just use bg position
16:13
and have slight extra white space
I like using bg sprites, but it does make sizing a bitch
unfortunately i had to use one extra element
background-size: contain is amazing
@easwee That makes me so glad that the "Tidy Up" button exists
user652649
16:14
@PatsyIssa flexbox!
@Wes i wish needs ie support
hah - well i always write css straight in one line
user652649
@mikedidthis @easwee cheers yo, gonna go with mike's answer because hedidit :/
user652649
16:15
display table ftw tho
does it bother you? :D
@PatsyIssa you can do it without the span as well btw :D
@PatsyIssa Just use whatever suits you :)
the bunny chart :P
16:20
that's what they teach in audio producing school
:))
user652649
need some help fellows... question A: is there a way to convert "àèò" in "aeo" in js? (transliteration to ascii)
you would get a faster answer in javascript room
@PatsyIssa I WAS LITERALLY ABOUT TO DO THE SAME THING!
\o
you gotta catch up old man :P
o/
16:22
:D
@Wes The only solutions I've seen (not many, since few people try this) is to have each character map to another
Which is obviously ugly
user652649
so that brings us to the question B... is there a way to make this regex matching the string "àèò".match(/[a-z]/i) ?
!!say hello
@ZachSaucier That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
user652649
i presume that's the same story, right?
16:25
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@mikedidthis worked like a charm :D
@PatsyIssa excellent.
@Wes I'm not sure about regexes, but I think it's possible. You'll have to check the table of character codes to see the range
16:57
!!convert 75 usd gbp
@BillyMathews 45.119gbp
Holy sh*t
Does anyone else charge that much an hour?
for design work?
No dev
My job is PSD from designer > Website
@mikedidthis yea, but not when you write codes for yourself, it's when you code is open and you want to confuse other people who keeps stealing your stuff...
user652649
17:18
why doesn't google fonts show up nothing while searching only monospace fonts? :|
user652649
@SomeGuy i haven't had yet time to check... going to check later this ranges thing thanks
posted on March 12, 2014 by kbironneau

/* by @maximilienriehl */

@Wes No monospaced fonts hosted on google fonts.
Good question popped up
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Q: Should I completely stop using inline JavaScript?

Two-Bit AlchemistIn a discussion elsewhere on SO, I was informed that "[m]ost browsers will not execute inline javascript... these days." This is news to me, and I have been researching to try to verify this statement, in order to understand if I need to adjust the code on some of the websites I maintain in order...

except for inconsolata - but dunno why that one doesnt show
maybe the filter is broken?
user652649
17:22
it doesn't show that either to me
user652649
Bummer, there are no font families that match.
Please try changing your criteria or hit the reset button:
user652649
just this
this one is monospaced
but doesn't show in results
dunno why
fill bug report to google
user652649
ahhh, i have to check also serif|&sans-serif
user652649
otherwise it shows nothing
17:23
bug
any recommendations for a "virtual keyboard" for a website that needs international input?
what's international input?
do you mean multi language input?
character glyphs from languages other than your standard US keyboard yes
kind of like on translate.google.com
what do you mean by virtual input?
17:26
onscreen keyboard i guess
something like a javascript-activated popup keyboard with <some foreign language> keys available on it
ye much like your OS's on-screen keyboard
Is it necessary?
I would assume if the user needs to use foreign characters, they will have them on their keyboard?
17:27
i have many problems with keyboards on windows phone
since i just can't get one character
that is in slovenian alphabet
čžš are problematic
yes it is necessary with many visitors who need to input foreign language characters but dont necessarily have the language enabled on their OS / available on their keyboard
imagine you are doing a dictionary site
i've seen onscreen keyboards also in gov buildings - like those info points with touchscreen
for foreign citizens
the couldn't input their name with our keyboard :D
thanks easwee looks rather primitive (version 0.0.1) possibly under-maintained, but if it'll do the job i'll be a happy man
well try to search for javascript onscreen keyboard multilanguage
i bet you can find something much better
unlike many other web-related problems & solutions, this doesn't seem to be a hugely popular issue with several "go to / defacto" options to use (like jQuery for javascript/DOM)
i wish made the one from translate.google.com available as a library
*i wish google made
@Wes Sure, no problem. Let me know if you need any help
@xyphenor that one is/was used also by google - atleast says so in references
user652649
17:59
i accidentally made a irobot looking gui :o
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does that "search tag" field box look like an actual text field to you?
user652649
time to go home 19:00 ... and nobody will pay me for the extra hour!
user652649
later
Can someone tell me why Youtube used TCP instead of UDP, is it because of the extras like slowstart?
18:11
UDP is quite unreliable
And a lot of additional things that UDP wouldn't support
18:58
@BillyMathews yes, I do.
Man
That's my daily wage

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