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11:00 AM
I've added the powershell tag because this isn't about C#, textbox or string literals. At all. Oh, and also not about the compiler. It's about PowerShell automation API onlysehe 10 secs ago
 
SAM
Ok guys.... time to go...
 
We don't need to no...
(kept the typo for visual rhyme)
 
Bye! Go with the flow...
 
*flo...
(FTFY)
 
@sehe: The questions you paste are being closed and deleted faster than I can click!
 
11:07 AM
@wilx I hate that too. Especially because I solved his problem. And he did too, but now noone else can see what solved it because he pride-deletes his fail question. Gah
 
some tell me how to split string[each word] and insert into vector?
 
@wilx Drive-by deletion:)
@Karimkhan Whh..what? You only posted your SO question 14 min ago!
3
 
@MartinJames But I did not get any answer there at that moment!
 
@KonradRudolph Wow...
 
@Karimkhan So hire a programmer?
 
11:10 AM
@jalf what's your charge
?
 
@Karimkhan Mine's at 24%, I'd better plug it in.
 
@Karimkhan I'm not for sale. But if you want instant answers, hire someone to do it for you. SO is free, and relies on volunteers. This room is free, and does not give a fuck about your questions.
 
lol
 
@Karimkhan I see 2 answers on your question?
 
@jalf I dont force you to answer, niether I can.
@Borgleader Yes thanks to group and one who answered
 
11:12 AM
What do you think the tag in the room description means?
 
@sehe we should post it as an answer ;p
 
@A.H. I take no responsibility
@Karimkhan This question has been asked at least 2 million times. In the tag only
Stack Overflow search is a feature
 
@sehe Sorry, but I saw some of similar question. But here I was facing little different issue! I will take care
 
@Karimkhan most asked question of all time
 
@A.H. besides x += x--;
 
11:18 AM
@A.H. then find a duplicate
 
@A.H. Instead, teach him to search: stackoverflow.com/search?q=%5Bc%2B%2B-faq%5D+split /cc @Karimkhan
(Education Police)
 
My point was you both pointed out it's been asked a bajillion times yet I see no dupe votes on the question.
 
@Borgleader I don't see a question. I'm loungin'. (I didn't "guess" he posted a dupe)
 
user1804599
Yum.
 
user1804599
Popcorn.
 
11:32 AM
@not-rightfold Kia-Ora
 
Why so complicated :) — sehe 3 secs ago
Sometimes, shell programming looks like functional programming proper:
sum=`paste -sd+ | bc`
Do you want Hamming or Levenshtein? — sehe 45 secs ago
^ The question title was asking for it
3
A: What is the difference between .cc and .cpp file suffix?

Alon GubkinThere is no difference. They're exactly the same.

What collation are you using? Surely this is Danish again :) — sehe 13 secs ago
 
user1804599
11:47 AM
Not funny.
 
@sehe hah
 
@dogbane aren't you a little bit high-rep to be trolling so overtly? — sehe 3 mins ago
@not-rightfold Ohai
 
well now
the real question is, how long can DeadMG go without sleep?
 
@DeadMG Oh, you stomachpocalypsed-up again :(
 
yar
irritating timing, too
about six hours too late
 
11:56 AM
Wait. Are you saying your insomnia is late?
 
insomnia and horrific stomach pain are two different things
 
Heh - it turns out that the parabolic skyscrapers in Vegas and London, (the ones that are frying hotel guests and melting cars), were both designed by the same architect!
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Maybe he/she could be relegated to designing solar power stations.
 
@DeadMG Okay. Lemme rephrase:
Wait. Are you saying your horrific stomach pain is late?
@MartinJames Brilliant. Can haz article link? (BTW. Sounds like they just searched for similar buildings, and the first stop would be to "check the architect's other work")
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2409710/Walkie-Talkie-building-melting-bicycles-Light-reflected-construction-City-skyscraper-scorches-seat.html
Designed by Rafael Vinoly of RV Architecture.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315978/Las-Vegas-hotel-death-ray-leaves-guests-severe-burns.html
Designed by Rafael Vinoly of RV Architecture
 
@melak47 Specs?
 
12:14 PM
Jon skeet just got 600k rep today
And he has 620k profile views, how weird is that
 
@TemplateRex It may have been my fault - I upvoted one of his answers.
 
I viewed his profile one or two hundred thousand times.
 
You should get free tickets to some event
 
@sehe Yes.
 
@DeadMG Wokay. That's new for me
@TemplateRex On a single day?
Agreed, I should say "switch two same type data member position" — ZijingWu 11 mins ago
^ so much clearer
 
12:21 PM
@sehe For me, too, which is why I'm really not feeling the goodness.
 
@chris You must be pretty bored
@TemplateRex Siberia
 
@MartinJames That's awesome. :)
 
user1804599
@sehe Hello.
 
Slow day today
 
user1804599
12:48 PM
Inderdaad.
 
user1804599
Fuck vandaag.
 
why would using polymorphic lambdas be "very bad style"?
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A: Removing all spaces from a string

Arne MertzAs was denoted in the comments, you are missing the include for std::isspace, namely <cctype>. But even then you won't have success, because isspace is overloaded see here. The solution to the overload problem would be to explicitly cast the function pointer to the desired function sgnature: st...

 
I've been gone a while. I had to do online check-in and print boarding pass. This takes a long time on Ryanair 'cos unselecting the unneeded insurance/transfer/parking/bag/whatever :(
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 A. It's not sexy. B. Why post it?
@ArneMertz Mmm? Context?
 
sexy is in the eyes of beer holder ... have you had your beer yet?
 
str.erase(
remove_if(str.begin(), str.end(),
[](auto c){ return isspace(c, cin.getloc());}
),
str.end());
-.- can't post it better
James Kanze considers the polymorphic lambda "very bad style" - I wonder why
 
user1804599
 
Compare to my other online enemies, your photoshopping skills really suck
 
1:35 PM
hi guys
any ideas why when I call close() on POSIX socket, I get a RST disconnection, not a clean FIN one?
 
SAM
Hot Coffee! Wow!!
 
user1804599
@d33tah What does close() return?
 
@not-rightfold didn't really check. thanks, i will.
 
user1804599
Always check the return value of close().
 
user1804599
If it gets interrupted by a signal and you don't retry it you'll have a memory leak.
 
SAM
1:45 PM
Anybody knows how to have a dark theme for NetBeans on Genome?
Just like the dark theme the Visual Studio 2012 has?
 
user1804599
Don't use NetBeans.
 
SAM
Any reason?
 
FUCK UEFI FUCK WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THE FUCKING IDEA FUCK ALL THAT NONSENSE STOP TRYING TO TAKE OVER MY COMPUTER YOU STUPID FUCK.
That's all I wanted to say.
Hi.
 
user1804599
UEFI is great.
 
uhm. right
 
SAM
1:48 PM
@not-rightfold Actually its mandatory in my current project...
and the white is killing my eyes... :(
 
user1804599
Cancel the project.
 
SAM
:D Is it that bad ?!
 
user1804599
I mean, I do it all the time.
 
SAM
Is it that bad ?!
 
user1804599
It's not Vim, so yes.
 
SAM
1:49 PM
ohh
I also love vim... the most
But I don't have any other option :( :(
 
user1804599
Reconsider your options.
 
SAM
ohh man! :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow! What event has angered the robot so much?
 
Have you ever tried dual bootinge win8 and Linux?
My advice: just use win7.
 
Why would you try booting Win8 at all.
 
2:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope. :)
 
@not-rightfold close() returns 0.
 
user1804599
Install Gentoo.
 
you say it's my distro?
 
Oh gawd people are listening to rightfold's advice.
5
 
user1804599
@d33tah I'm not talking to you.
 
2:18 PM
So, what have you guys been doing?
 
Robot, you really should get a pet ... maybe a cute, fluffy bird or something. If you are stressed, just squeeze the birdie a little ...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes UEFI doesn't play well with Win8 ? Wut
 
2:37 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Funnily enough, looking at W8 ultrabooks again but, thankfully, I won't need to dual-boot.
 
Can I have two UDP sockets on the same brooadcast address on same port ?
 
@not-rightfold Seriously, stop that.
 
@NeelBasu Uh, what?
 
I take it you discovered Gentoo last week?
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Relevant.
 
@CatPlusPlus I want to broadcast to 192.168.1.255:9999 and listen to the same. for other nodes to broadcast
 
2:47 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Just came back from a three day weekend. Metro was down this morning, so I decided to walk through the Gay Village to get to work. Turns out these people are ordinary humans.
 
I'm faced with this error
In static member function 'static void shogun::CMath::init_random(uint32_t)'; error: 'initstate' was not declared in this scope
 
What makes you think you won't get binned instantly?
 
can any one help me with my problem?
 
You are using initstate which was not defined in that scope.
 
it's not my code
 
2:57 PM
@MRS1367 don't dump questions here
 
I'm only trying to compile it
I'm solved many issues with these codes
 
Fascinating
 
@MRS1367 you shouldn't use <> in your includes
That will solve it
 
@Griwes 'Cos the puppy has finally gone to sleep :)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum -> I'm trying to compile Shogun under Windows OS in MATLAB with cygwin and MinGW
@Chemistpp tnx, I check it
 
3:00 PM
@MRS1367 Please tell me more about this interesting compiling of Shogun under Windows in Matlab with both cygwin and MinGW of yours. You've got my curiosity before but now you have my attention.
 
@NeelBasu yes
 
Just when I think some trolls are just too obvious...
 
@A.H. I want to broadcast to 192.168.1.255:9999 and listen to the same. for other nodes to broadcast. So I've a rcv socket and snd socket
Its throwing exception because address already in use
 
@NeelBasu have you set reuse sockopt or something
 
@A.H. nope. not yet I am facing problem with set_option() However do I need to set reuse flag for UDP broadcast ?
 
3:02 PM
last time I did that was so long ago
but I did it with the help of the man pages alone
so that means its there
 
@NeelBasu Should you not be using the same socket for both rcv and snd?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum -> I'm working on Phd thesis for detecting Herniated Disc from MRI images
 
@MartinJames well sender sends a pulse in each interval. and receiver receives pulses from other nodes broadcasting pulses in same subnet
 
@NeelBasu so everyone sends and receives ?
 
@A.H. yes
 
3:05 PM
I use from SVM algorithm with other algorithms and detect desired cases in MRI pics from MATLAB by doing Image processing and extract some data
 
you'll have better luck finding an answer posting your question on SO
 
@NeelBasu so why not use the same socket for send and receive?
 
then I will use from my C# app for showing the results in my way
 
@Chemistpp It's been a while since I did any UDP, esp. brodcast.
 
@A.H. but why caan't I use two different sockets ?
 
3:07 PM
@MartinJames I think that wasn't for me
 
@NeelBasu you can AFAIK just set SO_REUSEADDR
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum -> I googled and no one can run Shogun in Windows correctly with MATLAB
 
I solved many issues with Shogun files in Compile process under Windows with Visual C++ 2012 Compiler and cygwin and MinGW
 
@Chemistpp Meh - fuck scrolling.. :)
 
3:08 PM
In many cases some external application broadcasts to some specific ports and one can write a listener .
I've never faced any issues with such type of cases
 
lol
 
@NeelBasu just make a udp socket and send to a broadcast address no need to bind udp to send anyway
 
I am using boost asio

_socket.connect(boost::asio::ip::udp::endpoint(boost::asio::ip::udp::v4(), _port));
_socket.set_option(boost::asio::socket_base::reuse_address(true));
 
@NeelBasu Maybe because you are trying to bind two sockets to the same address?
 
@MartinJames should be possible :P
 
3:10 PM
and I am getting error
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  set_option: Bad file descriptor
 
@A.H. If you can do that, which socket gets incoming messages?
 
@MartinJames its probably in a manual somewhere
 
@Chemistpp -> ur solution didn't work
@Chemistpp -> I checked this
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Q: Error: method was not declared in this scope (but is is included)

xx77aBsI have two folders, f1 and f2, and they are on same level (have same folder for parent). In f1 I have source code of my project, and in f2 I have unit tests. The problem occurs when I try to include file from my project into unit test class. I just get this: natty:/tmp/test/f2$ qmake-qt4 . nat...

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Q: error: strcpy was not declared in this scope

ChakI get this problem in a c++ problem compiling in Ubuntu g++ version 4.4.3. I dont know the headers to include to solve this problem.. Thanks centro_medico.cpp: In constructor ‘Centro_medico::Centro_medico(char*, char*, int, int, float)’: centro_medico.cpp:5: error: ‘strcpy’ was not declared in t...

 
@A.H. This is the rcv socket. set_option is throwing exception
 
@NeelBasu this must be set for ALL sockets binding to that address, are you doing that?
 
3:14 PM
Hmm, just got an upvote on an old answer of mine. I don't remember ever lurking in the Cocoa tag.
 
yes for snd socket also I did the same. but wherever I do set_option I get exception
 
error: strcpy was not declared in this scope topic is very similar to my problem @Chemistpp
but I dunno why this error occurs in this file
 
@NeelBasu I was wrong , resuseaddr not the solution
 
@A.H. why ?
 
well you really can't have two sockets listening on the same port
makes no sense
the robot was right
 
3:17 PM
@A.H. Heh - nailed it :)
 
@A.H. But why ? why it makes no sense ?
 
after a careful re-read of the manual the option is for when a server crashes and starts up again while port is still 'in use'
@NeelBasu how will it buffer the data?
once it is read by a socket its gone
and probably other things as well
 
@A.H. Hmm right but many people can write to it.
and thst doesn't require a bind
 
Turns out I'm the only owner online right now.
 
@EtiennedeMartel about time
 
3:20 PM
@A.H. but then why the reuse_address option is there at all ?
 
@NeelBasu man 7 socket
 
@A.H. Just ping me. I'm always online from 10 to 19, UTC-5.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ... funny... you might just think those where hours you are being paid to work :P
speaking of which, time for me to go home :P
 
          Indicates that the rules used in validating  addresses  supplied
          in  a  bind(2)  call should allow reuse of local addresses.  For
          AF_INET sockets this means that a socket may bind,  except  when
          there  is an active listening socket bound to the address.  When
          the listening socket is bound to INADDR_ANY with a specific port
          then  it  is  not  possible  to  bind to this port for any local
          address.  Argument is an integer boolean flag.
 
@thecoshman Exactly.
 
Ell
3:23 PM
Guys. I'm stuck in a girls garden
 
@Ell Have sex with her.
 
@Ell You should have used more lube.
3
 
@NeelBasu mind if I ask what you are doing with broadcasts?
@Ell jump
 
@A.H. nothing much each machine will broadcast and share their CPU/Mem/open Apps/who/hostname/DHCP IP etc ..
 
Hi, does anyone here know about network programming, please. I have an assignment to code a telnet session, it says to display interactions on application level not packet level. So what does that mean, please?
 
3:26 PM
@EtiennedeMartel oh good you cleaned it up :)
 
@user1653150 google OSI
 
  boost::shared_ptr<std::string> message(new std::string("hallo"));
  _socket.send_to(boost::asio::buffer(*message), boost::asio::ip::udp::endpoint(boost::asio::ip::udp::v4(), _port));
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  send_to: Bad file descriptor
Aborted
 
@A.H. More like TCP/IP.
Nobody uses OSI.
 
well it is a bit verbose
 
@A.H. is the send_to wrong ?
 
3:28 PM
@user1653150 Wait, they told you to code network stuff without teaching you about the network stack first?
 
@EtiennedeMartel They're not that different, though L2/L3 are sorta like @Ell and his girl.
 
@NeelBasu I have only used boost::asio once , so I might not be the one to ask :P
 
@MartinJames Not getting it on enough?
 
@MartinJames i don't get it :<
 
@EtiennedeMartel Physically inseparable :)
 
3:29 PM
@MartinJames I don't think you know @Ell very well.
(I don't either, but fuuuck it)
 
@A.H. ya got it. probabbly I need to make an open call
_socket.open(boost::asio::ip::udp::v4());
 
@EtiennedeMartel Actually, @Ell and I are very close.
 
Are you making this girl jealous, then?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, I've no intention of getting stuck to either of them. Anne might notice :)
 
@Etiennede , I know tcp/ip and psi, but I don't understand what does it mean when it comes to the code, thanks
 
3:34 PM
@user1653150 Application layer is your code.
Transport layer is the socket stuff.
 
@Etiennede, So what I need to show in the code is the telnet commands?
 
@user1653150 Yeah.
 
@Etiennede Thanks
 
user1804599
Damn.
 
user1804599
This client wants IE 6 support.
 
3:47 PM
@not-rightfold run
 
user1804599
I'm happy I don't have to work on this project. :P
 
Am I the only one who thinks that microsoft should scrap IE and VS ?
 
user1804599
I work on a Chrome-only project. \o/
 
user1804599
@A.H. No.
 
@not-rightfold Yeah, no.
 
user1804599
3:49 PM
@KonradRudolph I don't understand what you mean.
 
user1804599
> ur
 
@not-rightfold He means scrap IE but keep VS, (I hope:).
 
user1804599
VS is Dutch for US.
 
@not-rightfold decline
 
user1804599
Ah. :P
 
user1804599
3:56 PM
At least IE 6 in quirks mode doesn't default to a box model that sucks. :P
 
9
A: Can we extend or alter the 'First Posts' functionality?

Cyborgx37I've quoted this before, but it's a good one so I'll do it again: Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. -- Rick Cook, T...

> You can't stop a determined idiot
^^ sooo true
 
user1804599
The quote is nice.
 
user1804599
I read "Universe" as "University", though. :P
 
4:10 PM
So, yeah, Nine Inch Nails' latest album, Hesitation Marks? Really, really good. You guys should all give it a shot.
 
question; what is "auditing a course"?
I want to take 6 credits but they won't let me
 
posted on September 03, 2013 by Herb Sutter

Don’t forget that the year’s great C++-fest GoingNative 2013 starts tomorrow morning and will be livestreamed on the Channel 9 home page. Don’t miss the opening keynote by Bjarne Stroustrup at 9:00am Seattle time on Wednesday. It will be followed by many other insightful and enlightening talks, from many of the gurus of C++. The […]

 
4:28 PM
So, who else got that study invitation thingy
 
user1804599
Which one?
 
SO and GitHub University of something
 
user1804599
Nope. Only Coursera.
 
@CatPlusPlus me
 
Ell
Phew I'm alive
I would have had sex with her had she been there :P
 
4:35 PM
today my teacher told me int has a max range of 2^31. when i told him no that's a long int. i love professors <3
 
Neither of those are correct.
 
user1804599
You're both wrong.
 
user1804599
The sizes are implementation-defined.
 
user1804599
There are constraints but not exact specifications.
 
Alternatively, they're both right.
 
user1804599
4:37 PM
Also, 2^31 is not a range.
 
user1804599
It's an integer.
 
user1804599
:V
 
@not-rightfold Meh, I was just about to moan about that :)
 
It's also a natural. And a real. And a complex number.
:v
 
user1804599
The latter two are supersets of ℤ, so yeah pretty obvious. :V
 
4:38 PM
range - "the distance within which something can be reached or perceived.
"
stop being derpy
 
user1804599
stop being wrong
 
dictionary. use it
 
user1804599
2^31 is not a distance.
 
user1804599
It's an integer.
 
ok whatever you like
 
4:40 PM
Hang on, range has to be 0..2^32-1 for unsigned.
 
only signed
 
user1804599
The range of unsigned is (std::numeric_limits<unsigned>::min(), std::numeric_limits<unsigned>::max()).
 
and you mean 2^31 - 1
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf 2^31 cannot be represented by an unsigned int?
 
4:42 PM
:allears:
 
user1804599
@EiyrioüvonKauyf You suck.
 
not-rightfold wins
 
@EiyrioüvonKauyf Second that.
 
user1804599
> * the actual value depends on the particular system and library implementation, but shall reflect the limits of these types in the target platform.
 
user1804599
Also lol :cplusplus.com:.
 
4:44 PM
ikr
 
user1804599
Huh.
 
user1804599
Am I the only one besides Cat who has pushed to it?
 
Ell
I can't compile it on my machine
 
@not-rightfold evolved into not-rainbowdash?
 
4:46 PM
Can we write std::multimap < int, std::string >::iterator it = dst.begin(); as std::multimap < int, std::string >::iterator it ; it= dst.begin();
 
user1804599
Go work on it you lazy bastards.
 
user1804599
@Karimkhan Eww wtf that whitespace.
 
user1804599
Also use auto.
 
Ell
@not-rightfold are you compiling with mono?
 
@not-rightfold Which wwhite space?
 
4:47 PM
The blue one.
2
 
user1804599
@Karimkhan The whitespace around <, > and ;.
 
user1804599
@Ell No, I'm compiling with lessc and tsc.
 
std::multimap <int, std::string>::iterator it; it = dst.begin(); IS there any other mistake here?
 
user1804599
I'll probably have to compile it when I go work on the WebSocket server, though. :P
 
user1804599
Unless that's a separate thing.
 
user1804599
4:48 PM
@Karimkhan Yes. Lack of decltype.
 
user1804599
decltype(dst.begin()) it;
// …
it = dst.begin();
 
user1804599
Also auto it = dst.begin(); if possible.
 
Ell
CSS? O.o
 
user1804599
No, LESS.
 
user1804599
You know, the slightly less terrible thing. With mixins and functions.
 
4:51 PM
oh god
why is there CSS
 
user1804599
Btw Cat I know how to solve the message combining problem. I need a custom filter that takes a Message[] and returns a Message[][].
 
get it away T_T
 
@not-rightfold Didn't I tell you that :v
 
:11586478 Thanks buddy, I was making mistake and not knowing what you pointed, though it compiles.
Any way:
td::multimap <int, std::string>::iterator it;
decltype(dst.begin()) it;
it = dst.begin();
Now is it correct?
 
also in many versions long int == int. wat wat wat why you do this
 
user1804599
4:52 PM
@CatPlusPlus Not that I know. :v
 
user1804599
If you really did: thanks! :D
 
user1804599
@Karimkhan Remove the first line.
 
Aug 29 at 17:40, by Cat Plus Plus
@not-rightfold Did you try something like message_group in messages|group_by_filter, however you do custom filters?
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus I'll implement it right now, so at least somebody will make some progress. :P
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus :x
 
4:53 PM
hi
 
user1804599
But first I'll refactor the AngularJS-related code into TypeScript files.
 
@not-rightfold std::multimap <int, std::string>::iterator it; Removing this line? Then how it would be declared as multimap?
 
user1804599
It is not a multimap.
 
user1804599
It will be declared as a multimap iterator by decltype(dst.begin()) it;.
 
user1804599
FYI decltype(dst.begin()) is a type.
 
4:55 PM
@Karimkhan Why not just auto it = dst.begin()?
 
user1804599
Oh hey @NikiC do you know by accident if it's possible to leave off use in a lambda, yet still capturing variables? It's annoying and feels like C++.
 
is there any blackberry cascades developer here..
 
user1804599
@Rajesh No.
 
@not-rightfold no, not possible to leave off use
 
user1804599
@NikiC Damn. :<
 
4:56 PM
@NikiC later I want to catch it->first and it->second as string ans int. Then without td::multimap <int, std::string>::iterator it; is it possible?
 
@not-rightfold ok
 
Words are difficult and confusing.
 
user1804599
Plonks aren't.
 
@Rajesh what part of C++ sounds like Blackberry to you
 
user1804599
@Karimkhan auto it = dst.begin(); Jesus.
 
4:57 PM
@Karimkhan if I understand you correctly, yes. But why not just try it out? If it doesn't work the compiler will tell you...
 
user1804599
It ain't rocket science.
 
I might be int he process of becoming an asshole. I plonked 2 ppl today =/
 
@Borgleader that's ok; i've plonked 5 in a row
 
@NikiC sorry, I dont know what affect it would make. And it compiles without error and gives wrong result that's why I was confirming!
 
You know. You're wrong. I love people who like to point out the flee in someone else's soup.
Yep. I totally made that up. But at least I didn't claim a technical fact :)
 
4:59 PM
@EiyrioüvonKauyf am developing blackberry using c++
 

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