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8:00 PM
First person to reply to this message with the winning 3 (unordered) candidates gets a 500 rep mSE bounty from me on an answer of your choice at the end of the election. One per person; must have not-terrible meta post by end of election; entries that are duplicates of someone else's earlier entry are not eligible. And no purchase necessary.
 
wat
 
@Undo undo, ed, deceze
 
@Undo You, Ed, josilber
 
Nick, Nick, and Nick
oh, and Obama
 
@Undo Undo, Ed, and Madara
 
8:01 PM
Let the voting begin!
 
@Undo Kittens, kittens, and kittens. Becuz kittenz alwayz winz teh Internetz.
 
@JoshCrozier GAH NO.
Fine. I'll edit.
 
@ThomasOwens :)
Just stating what currently looks obvious.
 
I do this occasionally for bigger elections. It's always fun seeing how people think it'll turn out, it's usually a decent predictor.
 
@Undo rolls imaginary dice Let's go with Undo, Deceze, Madara.
 
8:03 PM
is it just me or are the little blue popups that appear when you vote extra huge?
 
@Undo Undo, jsoliber, Madara
 
@Seth Very much extra huge
 
so is this show your vote time? xD
 
@codeMagic Thomas already said that
 
@Seth If you're so inclined ;)
 
8:03 PM
@Undo josilber, Undo, Vinod
 
I went with Madara, Undo, josilber.
 
damn
damn again
 
This is a hard, hard choice
 
Are candidates able to vote for themselves?
 
@JoshCrozier Yes.
In this phase, yes. Not in the primary phase, though.
 
8:08 PM
Yay, #15!
I beat Sterling!
 
@Undo Not cool enough. Throw in a swag package from us too. :P As long as you tell me who won so I can contact them.
 
@animuson Awesome!
 
@EdCottrell :D
 
@Undo undo, ed, vinod
I think I finally got an original one :P
 
Vote Nick for Moderator President 2015, and I'll make sure everyone knows javascript
 
8:12 PM
how long does it take to send the swag? I mean only the transport time
 
uck!
 
@Nick going from door to door: "may I tell you something about javascript?"
 
@Nick alert('ok');
 
Howdy pardners did someone call me
 
haha
 
8:14 PM
@nick you can be my Moderator Vice President
 
@Undo Madara, Ed, Undo
gg
@Nick Alright I'll advise you on important matters
 
I hope the top 3 remains the same...
 
ermahgerd i just got a silver badge for voting
 
@Undo damn
 
8:15 PM
(you can choose a different combination)
 
nah, those are the ones I picked
if I didn't have faith in them I wouldn't have voted
Also Madara 2016
 
no
nick stop
pls
 
What
We need at least one representative from our glorious room
 
Do you guys always do this?
 
No taxation without representation
 
8:17 PM
@JoshCrozier The bounty-and-swag thing?
 
I don't like him, though
 
First year I've done it on SO.
 
can't stand him either tbh
 
@Undo Yeah, nice..
 
@nick @Nick be nice
 
8:18 PM
no
 
aw dad you ruin everything
 
kids these days..
 
yep
 
Look at the votes come pouring in: stackoverflow.com/help/badges/1974?page=1
 
@ThomasOwens got the first vote in for this election!
 
8:25 PM
Over 1500 votes already...
 
@EdCottrell It'll be interesting to see how it's paced
Moving my primary monitor back to the usual server, expect downtime (if for some reason you're still using it)
 
What are "1st Choice" , "2nd Choice" , "3rd Choice" buttons ?
 
@Undo Yeah. You can get a 5-minute sample by looking at the Constituent badges (the link you already posted). Starting count was 69039.
@guest271314 You can vote for 3 candidates.
Click 1st choice for your first choice, 2nd choice for your second, and 3rd for your third.
 
@guest271314 Press 'first choice' on the candidate you most want to win, '2nd choice' on the one you want to win but not as much as the first candidate, and so on
 
that uses a funny algorithm
 
8:29 PM
We use STV to tally votes. Instead of voting for only one candidate, you can rank your choices according to preference.
 
@guest271314 Votes are counted so that your first choice matters most, and so on. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/77541
 
@rekire It's just Meek STV, which is still funny but it starts to make a little sense if you study it
 
Is there anything that makes more sense?
 
@Undo I read about it in april, I may missed some details but in gerneral it is a tricky way to get fair results
 
Ok . Curious why no description of details of these buttons appear at vote page ?
 
8:31 PM
@EdCottrell where do you see this information just with the badges?
 
Full dump of primary vote trends available here for a limited time.
~3MB SQL dump
 
@rekire I don't. I'm subtracting the number awarded before today (69039). 70847 awarded as of now, so 1,808 votes today.
 
@EdCottrell that is clever!
 
@guest271314 It's on the sidebar:
> Any community member with 150 reputation may vote in the election. Each voter may select up to three candidates. Please make your selections in order of preference, with the most desirable candidate as first choice.

> We will calculate the winners using OpenSTV with the Meek STV method, which automatically weights users' votes in the way that does the most good for the candidates they have selected, in order of preference.

> When the election is complete, the ballot file will be freely downloadable from this page for the life of the site. Individual users' voting choices are always priv
(not perfectly clear, though)
 
8:34 PM
71064 badges as of now -> 2,025 votes in 30 minutes. And... Now I need to do some real work.
 
@Undo No , not very clear .
 
@guest271314 The final election is set up a little different than the primaries were, so we have to use a different interface.
 
@guest271314 You might have a preference for one candidate over another, which can’t be expressed with just upvotes.
 
@Seth Wait, WHAT?
 
@minitech "You might have a preference for one candidate over another, which can’t be expressed with just upvotes." ? Not certain interpret this correctly ? Is this SO version of "electoral college" ? Why change visual vote count display ? Why not "public" ? Just display it all to keep it "open" and transparent ?
 
8:42 PM
yo
 
Good Luck to all the election runners =D I already cast my votes.
 
@ThomasOwens you were awarded the first constituent badge of this election :)
 
after you cast your votes do you need to 'save' or 'enter' or anything?
 
No @MarkCramer
 
nope just vote
 
8:43 PM
cool. thanks.
can we talk about who we voted for?
 
The rest is done with blackmagic
 
magic is cool
 
I think so too ;)
 
@MarkCramer if you want.
 
Hey guys I heard there's a bug where you'll lose all your rep if you don't vote for @Undo. I haven't tested it but I wouldn't risk it.
 
8:44 PM
You can but should you is the question
@JasonC Thanks! hurries to change votes
 
thanks. fwiw, in case anyone cares, i voted for all the folks with 'polite' and 'respect' in their profiles.
 
Sure you should, censorship is a crime.
 
I didn't say he should or shouldn't. Just that this is the proper question :P
 
hey, i got a silver badge for voting. how fun!
 
Ha
 
8:47 PM
Badges are fun, aren't they
 
... for me to poop on!
 
<facepalm>
 
@EdCottrell don't mind me. I'm keeping the right side of the graph company
 
Note that I'm not saying badges aren't fun. I'm saying that every time somebody says something is fun, I can't help thinking "for me to poop on". Childhood programming.
 
How many mods will be selected ? Is there a single selection , or multiple selections from current candidates ?
 
8:49 PM
i have no gold badges, so if i ever get one of them everyone is invited to my place for a big party.
 
@guest271314 3
 
@Andy :) Seriously, 60k of anything on here will skew something.
 
Haha, Jason
 
And you vote for your first second and third choice.
 
@guest271314 You can pick 3 candidates out of the 10 who are left.
 
8:49 PM
Who should I vote for?
 
me
 
@guest271314 The top three (using Meek STV to count the votes) will become the new mods.
 
@DavidAddoteye Whomever you think would do the best job ;)
 
I wonder if I would've made the top 10 if I changed my display name to Donald Trump. There's always next time.
 
@guest271314 ^
 
8:52 PM
@EdCottrell Ok
 
Make SO great again. And build a giant wall between us and lifehacks. They're all criminals anyways.
 
No appreciation for my hand drawn circle and arrow? What a world we live in
 
Blame the fhrc over-users. It's so mainstream now.
 
@Undo I thought you will say me?
 
I liked fhrc's before they were red.
 
8:54 PM
@codeMagic Yes, nicely done . fwiw , the sidebar particulars could be placed in the main body of page for clarity . Not certain why not showing vote counts an vote page ? Could all be transparent and should return same results ?
 
gn8 guys
 
Later
Or, how you say, l8r
 
@DavidAddoteye I personally think I'm a fairly good candidate, but I could be a little biased.
I don't really want to just outright tell people to vote for me, it's best if everyone researched which candidates are best for the site.
 
@guest271314 I think keeping the details off to the side helps to keep it separated. Especially since some of that content is dynamic
 
@DavidAddoteye He's being a politician. If he says "whoever you want" it's a guaranteed vote for him.
 
8:56 PM
@Undo nononono, you cannot be a good politician. grab it while you can. lol
 
(A vote well spent btw. Do it.)
 
A vote for Undo is a vote against world hunger
You don't want people to go hungry, do you?
 
Mmm, worlds. Nom nom.
 
hahahaa, @codeMagic are you his campaign manager?
 
@codeMagic Have not previously participated in an election where votes could be passed twice ? Already voted when got notification a few days ago ; now could vote for another candidate ?
 
8:57 PM
I have a bad case of world hunger. More planets please.
 
@DavidAddoteye still waiting on my first paycheck
 
@guest271314 We have a fairly complex system for electing moderators, definitely
@DavidAddoteye Yeah, I'd make a fairly poor politician ;)
 
@guest271314 That was the primaries. Now they're over. Now it is the actual election.
 
@guest271314 in the primaries, you can vote for as many as you want (up or down). Now general, just 3
 
@Undo you got my attention
 
8:59 PM
Primaries filter nominees down to 10. Simple top score algorithm. Elections pick actual 3 from those 10. More complicated algorithm.
Saying "I'd make a poor politician" is such a political pro move.
2
 
@JasonC go home...you're drunk
He is really rubbing on the "Not a politician" charm, isn't he?
:D
 
Drunk on Java, maybe. :(
 
Java ftw
 
I'll have a double Gosling, on the rocks.
 
@JasonC Perhaps over-engineering ? One vote per eligible user . Count total votes , show total votes ; keep transparent . Top 3 votes-getters become mods . No need for an algorithm ?
 
9:01 PM
Speaking of which, I really should get back to Java-ing
 
@guest271314 There is tons of explanation of the system and why it is the way it is on meta.
 
good night guys
 
Peace. I'm out too.
 
@guest271314 Vote totals are shown and available as a full dump immediately after the election ends.
 
See ya!
 
9:03 PM
@Andy Yes . They were displayed on page when voted few days ago . Why not now ?
 
@guest271314 We're trying to avoid a pile-on effect ("That guy has a lot of votes, so he must be good so I'll vote for him too")
And the converse, "that guy doesn't have many votes so I won't vote for him"
 
@guest271314 Vote totals are visible for the primaries, so that you can see who the community thinks is likely to be electable. The vote totals are secret for the general election.
What @Undo said.
 
@Undo "We're trying to avoid a pile-on effect ("That guy has a lot of votes, so he must be good so I'll vote for him too")" Inferring users are not competent enough to make rational decisions ? Or worse , vote counters do not actually trust users' vote ?
 
@guest271314 Humans never are, and need all the help they can get.
4
 
@Undo Enlightening
 
9:09 PM
@Undo where did you put this data?..
 
38 mins ago, by Undo
Full dump of primary vote trends available here for a limited time.
 
Oh thanks!
 
No problem
 
@JeremyBanks "Humans never are" ? Referring to competent ?
 
@guest271314 It's well documented that people will 'go with the herd' on some issues. We're simply trying to combat that as best we can - and part of that is hiding votes during the election.
 
9:12 PM
@guest271314 "Rational", primarily. "Competent" is a little vaguer.
 
@Undo Then it would be apparent, here, that vote counters do not actually trust any users' vote .
 
Confused, how come Andy isn't in the election but it doesn't say he withdrew either?
 
@guest271314: Voting on someone in the primaries is a bit interesting...you can say that they may be a good moderator because they have lots of good flags, or have made lots of good edits, or that they're well known, or some combination of the three. But does that actually make them good? It's not like an answer on SO that you can cross validate yourself or bias against your own knowledge; you're going off of inference, really.
 
@JeremyBanks No , competent is not vague "having the necessary ability, knowledge, or skill to do something successfully."
 
@andrewtweber He got eleventh in the primaries, and we can only take the top 10 to the final stage of the elections
 
9:15 PM
@andrewtweber I didn't make the top ten cut off. I ended up at 11th
 
Which is really unfortunate, I was hoping to vote for @Andy.
 
:)
 
oh, thanks. I was too
 
Perhaps in the future
 
@Makoto "Voting on someone in the primaries is a bit interesting...you can say that they may be a good moderator because they have lots of good flags, or have made lots of good edits, or that they're well known, or some combination of the three. But does that actually make them good?" This description was not on the page when got notification and voted . Was not aware that that vote did not actually "count" towards final tally . Or at least would be notified to vote again.
 
9:18 PM
@guest271314: The primaries are a way to suss out the top ten people that the community thinks would be ideal fits for candidates. The "final" vote is the stage we're on now in which everyone picks their top three ideal candidates.
The vote there is again as I describe it - you've got a lot of people and a lot of metadata to compare against, but it's tough to say who would be "good" from those raw stats alone, so the vote is small in comparison to the candidate's answers to community questions and situations.
 
@guest271314 It is there, but it's at the very bottom of the box on the right
> After 4 days, the top 10 candidates based on primary vote score proceed onward to the election phase.
 
"you've got a lot of people and a lot of metadata to compare against" ? What "metadata" is compared ?
 
Man, it's hard to pick all three. I'm going to have to sit down and read through all Q&A again before the election's over and make sure I'm happy with my choices.
 
@JeremyBanks We definitely have an abundance of qualified folks
 
@guest271314: Number of actions taken on the site that would be seen in a moderator light, like editing, flags and reviews. The quality of those is really the metadata, since it's tough to suss out the quality of an edit by a mechanical process. Same with reviews.
 
9:25 PM
@Andy Could not locate section of page having that text ?
 
@guest271314 on the Primary tab:
 
Interesting process . The notification that said "vote" a few days ago could have directed to a full rules page first . Having user check "Read" before "voting" in a "primary" expecting that vote to actually count towards total tally . The "right sidebar" informations are lacking in clarity and full scope. In any event . Cast vote a few days. Cheers to all
 
@Undo It seems my first guess has already been taken. So, I propose - Undo, josilber, Madara Uchiha
Sorry Ed.
But, you were in my first group that was already guessed
 
@Andy Ha, thanks. Sorry to see you didn't make the top 10.
 
@EdCottrell you got my 2nd place vote :) You're a nice guy. You'll be a good mod.
 
9:39 PM
@SterlingArcher Thanks. :)
 
Just... just don't forgot about ES6 when you're all diamondly, mmkay?
D:
 
9:55 PM
@SterlingArcher lol. Got it.
 
10:11 PM
pfft, ES6, everyone knows ES7 is better
 
10:28 PM
@Undo as it turned out, I was in the parking lot of a diner when election time rolled around... So I just cranked the length limit up anyway.
Can't risk cold eggs benedict
 
@Shog9 Truer words never spoken
 
10:46 PM
Just put in my vote @josilber
Best of luck to you.
Thanks for everything you have done for the community, so far.
 
@ColinSchoen Thanks!
 
Feel like i need to change my avatar now that a potential mod uses it too
 
11:01 PM
Good luck @josilber, kind of neat to vote for a moderator candidate I have more than just a passing familiarity with.
 
@joran Hey, fancy seeing you outside ! Thanks for the kind words :)
 
@josilber I get out and around every now and then. ;)
 
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