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5:40 AM
@Shree Please wait to make a del-pls request until the post is at most one down-vote away from being eligible for delete-votes. Otherwise, the request is effectively a request for down-votes, which is not permitted. For 20k deletion the question must be at <-2. For 10k deletion, the question must have been closed for > 2 days.
 
ok . Thanks.
 
6:26 AM
I feel this question OT on SO (might be better on Server Fault), am I right?
 
 
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1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
thanks.
 
np. Anytime.
 
Can a mod check if it is ok now ? stackoverflow.com/a/52177846/4365840
 
@AmadeuAntunes Are you asking us to look it over or to do something about it? While we can take a look at it, there's nothing we can actually do. The people here are regular users with some additional capabilities based on the reputation points they have. Your answer was deleted by an actual moderator. Only another moderator can undelete it. You will need to flag your answer with a custom mod-flag and explain that you believe you've rectified the situation and that you'd like it undeleted.
 
7:46 AM
@AmadeuAntunes in's 'credit' in English (although I'd use 'source' here) and the link is broken. Otherwise: what Makyen said, not much we can do
Anyhow, seeing you copied most text literally from your source, I doubt any mod would be willing to reopen. Proper attribution or not, it's still only regurgitating existing knowledge. IMO this entire answer would be better suited as a single comment with a link to the page, as opposed to copied for reputational gain.
 
user3956566
@AmadeuAntunes Please check this stackoverflow.com/help/referencing
 
I'm editing the answer
 
user3956566
The answer has to have an acceptable percentage of original content and it needs to be referenced correctly.
 
user3956566
@AmadeuAntunes sure take your time to learn about it and it will help you in many things in life
 
@AmadeuAntunes changing a variable name from Geeks to StackOverflow makes it in no way less of a plagiarised post.
 
7:52 AM
I'm still working on it
 
8:28 AM
@YvetteColomb I just re-write everything now
 
@Makyen wow, that is unexpected and I doubt I would have found that. I'll check if I can find an question and answer on main and if not I'll post one so you can answer.
 
Wow, I haven't heard the name "QUnit" in quite a while
Does it still have problems with async tests? Or have they finally fixed that?
 
@Mat point is, I have this huge JS spaghetti that I need to refactor. My approach is now to have a successful test and then refactor where testabillity will be a refactor goal. Until that I don't want to touch code inside the blackbox yet. Changing to using the onclick would do that. I understand what it does and agree that will work but at this stage I can't do that. Thanks for testing and sharing.
 
8:45 AM
It is ok my answer now ? stackoverflow.com/a/52177846/4365840
 
@MadaraUchiha it seems to work. I used it 4 years ago and I had that project still around so I took its bits and pieces to get me started. I didn't do research first into a different framework as I reckoned QUnit would do the job for me, as it did 4 years ago.
 
@rene What's the problem here? It works as expected for me
 
9:04 AM
@MadaraUchiha did you uncomment the line that gets the btn inside the Qunit.test? That shouldn't invoke the save function. At least it doesn't in chrome
 
 
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10:23 AM
@karel I'd go for Unclear perhaps as there is no question.
Is this plagiarism of this? I think so: same code and a difference of ~15 minutes.
 
@double-beep That's not enough, presuming good faith they could both have been writting same solution, you will need to show that user have done this more then once.
 
let's settle this
 
10:38 AM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre @Shree posted a same request some time before and it was binned because there was only 1 down-vote.
 
yeah now 3 downvotes
 
see? :)
only 20k+ can delete.
 
Yep worthless duplicate. now valid 20k deletion request.
 
@double-beep I'll go with that too.
 
10:42 AM
or 10k+ in 2 days.
 
@iBug I see what you mean, but it still feels on-topic writting nginx config files, it's a typical thing a programmer will do..
Too me it is under 3 and 4, maybe even 1 stackoverflow.com/help/on-topic
 
11:00 AM
@Machavity @PetterFriberg @rene something on meta you got a stake in : meta.stackoverflow.com/q/381081/578411
 
@rene deleted, undeleted too many times for me to care anymore...
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11:16 AM
yeah, whatever.
 
11:48 AM
@PetterFriberg but, do you count Nginx config files "programming"?
 
12:18 PM
@iBug personally I would as .webconfig, .httacess, web.xml etc... We have 1000 of questions on these issues.
 
12:46 PM
@E_net4 interesting: all three of your last cv-pls have comments by the OP being irritated about downvotes they're getting...
 
@Adriaan ... Very... Interesting?
 
12:57 PM
@rene I rather liked Cody's comment. Seemed like a poor duplicate to me. I'm always skeptical of questions about simple array operations
 
1:18 PM
Any ideas about this answer? LOA?
 
2:06 PM
@rene felt that I had to pass an answer since I issued the request and it was locked by mods for community to decided (cc @Machavity) but yeah I got kind of ninja'd :D
 
2:51 PM
can someone approve this edit: stackoverflow.com/questions/55086411/… (I approved it, but someone else rejected it: I approved it despite the extra text that seems made up, but it's not: it's a copy of OP comments, pasted in the question)
 
Tiw
Huh... Mr White.
 
What is it, Jesse?
 
Tiw
3:14 PM
Nuh...Nothing, just you forgot your pants when you get off the van.
 
Mat
Can someone stop that high rep from reverting to the vandalism ?
 
I have flagged to moderation.
I know this user quite well, but this has to stop.
 
Mat
Indeed, that's pretty ridiculous
 
I don't think it's a mistake... done 3 times.
 
3:26 PM
ooof… rollback war..
@Mat the appropriate way is always to mod-flag after pinging the user in comments.
 
Mat
Oh okok !
 
@double-beep rollback mess. I admit I didn't ping the user because I have something in the clipboard I don't want to lose, and this particular user has greek chars in his name.
 
I may have misremembered but my recollection is that rollback wars trigger an autoflag
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre they are not Greek actually
they are ancient Greek
 
Mat
lmao even worse. I wish I could use more flags per day
 
3:33 PM
actually, he's a German anarchist - who uses Windows :)
 
Mat
What about windows ;p
 
@StephenKennedy who?
 
Deleted. That will stop the rollbacks for sure.
 
the guy with the Greek characters in his name. SOCVR regular but currently banned from chat.
 
Mat
How many bans are given in SOCVR approx per day/week ?
 
3:36 PM
shrug I know of 2 regulars who are banned but not what for. if it was for this actvitity in this room I didn't see it. Additionally: The mods don't like us talking about it. /thread :)
 
Mat
Oh, fair enough
 
we're mostly a well behaved bunch in here, and try to set a good example.
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We also respect that one guy who really hates images
 
@StephenKennedy I feel bad about the flagging. It's a technical issue.
Well, I guess the mods have figured it out.
 
Mat
Images or links to images ?
hehe
 
3:39 PM
@Mat bans for SOCVR members are really rare, fortunately.
 
Mat
That's good to hear
 
@JohnDvorak I'd say yes: recommendation + old so solutions are probably outdated.
 
Mat
Plus trafic seems very low
 
3:43 PM
you got it
 
@Tiw Let't not talk about individuals moderation activities, nor about meta posts
 
Tiw
Ahh... ok.
 
discussions about meta posts do occasionally pop up here
 
yeah, but not about moderating meta
if we go down that road an angry blurry flower might appear
 
Tiw
Just feeling some guys are not nice, that's all.
 
3:44 PM
Yeah, moderating meta is a path of self-harm
 
Mat
Couldn't conclusive triage review give you access to another review ?
 
@StephenKennedy will appeared
 
Mat
These edits lol
 
@Mat people defacing their post to avoid getting caught cheating by their teachers, happens a lot.
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Tiw
4:01 PM
Or boss?
 
@Tiw Yes, or boss, or because they feel they "shared" too much code, and no doubt other reasons too.
 
4:50 PM
Sep 22 '16 at 17:38, by Brad Larson
@Adriaan Usually, it's the exact opposite, where professors threaten to automatically fail any student they find posting here. Thus, the tons of "urgent, I need to delete this question" flags we get around finals time.
 
@Machavity I know that guy...
 
Mat
That link is not a solution
 
@Mat yeah, realized that some time before and spam-flagged.
it now just needs one flag...
and btw, there is one link-only there that needs a deletion
 
Mat
I usually flag questions
Is that a NAA ?
 
VLQ
 
Mat
5:00 PM
"You might be looking for something like socket.io" right
Ah nice, out of flags
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre POB?
 
or that. code is garbage too.
 
5:52 PM
@PetterFriberg I posted an answer as well. There's a couple of points that made it obvious (even to a PHP guy) that the Q had to go
 
@Machavity nice we have done what we can do :)..
I still wonder how I saw that question, probably searching for some c# stuff...
 
@PetterFriberg Well, it's also not every day you see a -100 Q
 
:) you should get a gold badge for that..
 
-100? Am I able to see this wondrous beast, or is it deleted?
 
@StephenKennedy It's been undeleted 3x. See this Meta
Locked now since Meta effect was looking to make it -200
 
Mat
6:08 PM
Wonderful
 
6:38 PM
@rene If you create it, I'll answer. Although, there are sure to be people more familiar with QUnit that could provide more detail. I didn't recall anything from their docs about them doing the clone, and didn't see anything when looking again earlier today. The cloning is something that "should" be documented, due to the side effects which you experienced.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Why delete this question? Particularly, why rush to 20k delete this? While I agree that it's not a good question, it's closed as a duplicate. Duplicates are supposed to be signposts. I'm not thrilled with the question, and I might consider editing it to make the title better reflect the question, but it's not clear to me that this will be a bad duplicate. The dup-target only has 2 linked questions, which means it doesn't have an over-abundance of duplicates pointing to it. cc: @Shree
 
@Makyen which question? I VTD a lot.
 
6:58 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Something appears wonky on my machine wrt. copy-&-paste. What the.... I'm copying the link from chat, but it's going to a different chat message, even when I just click the link in chat. Give me a moment to figure out what's wrong.
 
@Makyen that one, right. An user complained about plagiarism of his answer (just down below) in here. It could have been a coincidence, so to avoid further issues with a bad question anyway, I asked for instant deletion of the Q & A
@Makyen a virus in your scripts ? :)
 
@Makyen I had an issue where I had replied to a message, and closed the chatroom quite soon after that, and it kept opening the chatroom for weeks starting with a reply to that message (as in: :<messageID> would already be present in the text box)
 
This is the request (now it appears to be working)
After reloading the page, I'm unable to duplicate my issue. Sorry for the confusion.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre The one I was intending to ask about was the jQuery del-pls, not the Python one.
The Python one is the one where the user complained of potential plagiarism.
@Makyen To be clear the request linked in this message is not the correct one, but the question is correct.
 
the jquery one has also copied/pasted identical answer. Barghav nuked it BTW.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yes, the answer. I'm asking why delete the question at this time.
 
7:08 PM
@Makyen well, that works too 😀 More seriously, it adds no value, and some answers are suspicious. I'm using my judgement. Anyway, needs 2 more people to delet.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre ya, I modflagged. Wondered why it hadn't been done yet, seeing the comments
 
Okay, @Makyen if you want to bin that one, I don't mind, you're the RO.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre It's closed as a duplicate of a question which has no other duplicates, so it's not a situation where there are a huge number of other already existing duplicates.
 
okay, bin it then. I don't like -4 score questions, but whatever. One more dupe cannot hurt when there aren't millions on the same subject.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre In general, ROs don't bin just because we disagree with the request. While we might unilaterally do so if the request is demonstrably, and significantly, wrong, this is more of a judgement call. Thus, I wanted to try to convince, rather than impose.
 
7:15 PM
Now that the copy answer is gone, you're right, no need to delete. You can bin it.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Thanks, done.
 
7:33 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Please use [tag:review-pls] for requests for people to review suggested edits. FYI: The alpha version of the Request Generator has a "review-pls" button to submit a review-pls request. The button is displayed both at the top of both the in-question suggested edit review popup and the Suggested Edits Review Queue.
 
ah I didn't find it. Okay.
 
np. I figured you'd missed the feature, and that it might be helpful for next time.
 
I miss a lot of things 😀 and I don't ask for review approvals/reject a lot.
 
Yeah, those are quite rare. They were a bit more common when it required 3 reviews to approve a suggested edit, but with only 2 reviews required now...
 
damn it's so seamlessly integrated that I didn't notice it 😀 got it! thanks
 
7:45 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre np. :-) I hope it will be useful. Maybe I should make them a bit more visible. Unfortunately, SE uses clickable buttons which have styles which make them difficult to distinguish from text and not very noticeable. You often have to move the mouse around the page to figure out if something is a button or not.
 
Didn't realise there were no answers to invalidate with that edit though
 
@Adriaan which one?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre last Smokey's report (that's what I replied to intially)
 
@rene OK. Thanks for the ping.
 
Also, are you locked with QUnit or can you switch?
 
7:48 PM
@Adriaan that looks fine.
 
@MadaraUchiha unclear flower
 
(Today, I'd go with Jest or Mocha, not with QUnit)
 
@MadaraUchiha yea, you should check that OP out; typing with them delicate petals, like anyone could do that
 
@Adriaan I normally use butterfly.
 
Hi! I just stumbled over this question - is this something which should be closed?
 
Mat
7:50 PM
Wait didn't Makyen answer the QUnit question ?
 
@Mat yes, in chat
 
Mat
Ah ok I wasn't sure if posted because not satisfied with the given answer
 
@ventiseis I have never heard of spla, does that exist or are they just having fun?
 
@Mat if you click the little grey arrows you can follow the comment trail - but I already did that for you and the pertinent message is here
 
@PetterFriberg the mentioned website exists, but it contains only the posted example. Looks bogus for me
 
7:53 PM
@Mat Nah. The Q&A are to make the information available to other people, rather than just hidden in chat. IMO, it's an issue which other people might encounter.
 
Mat
Oh I see, thanks
 
@ventiseis I'm going too broad for now..
 
Mat
I wish I had such quick, ready help in my field too haha
 
@PetterFriberg would be my opinion too
 
It's not like we can to all the documentation on SO, well maybe it depends on language :)
 
8:00 PM
@PetterFriberg thx for your evaluation/opinion, was a little unsure about this one
 
Zoe
Does anyone know what triple-backtick formatting ended up as in HTML before those types of blocks were supported?
 
@ventiseis The website even has a strange "To know more about Spla write in stackoverflow.com.*... something strange is going on.
I certainly does not have the courage to download that programming language
 
@MadaraUchiha I can switch but that needs convincing arguments
 
user10976548
 
@rene too many chat windows open? :)
 
@Zoe mishmash really
 
Zoe
I wanted to write a SEDE query to find unfixed ones (editing appears to fix most of it). But without knowing how exactly it formats, it's hard finding those exactly.
 
IIRC it has multiple PRE tags
 
8:46 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre only 4. That is normal
 
@rene I'm heading the same way... And in the meanwhile noone does the dishwashing.
 
I just did mine.
 
@rene As you're probably already aware, I've posted an answer. As it turns out, there's a QUnit configuration option, QUnit.config.fixture = null;, which will allow you to pre-define event listeners using addEventListener(). However, it should be used with care, as it makes the unit tests less independent of each other.
cc: @Mat Just FYI.
 
Mat
Oh interesting
@Makyen no need to give me credit for that. Thanks though
 
@Mat While I agree that it's the first solution that comes to mind, you did mention it first. Giving credit is the right thing to do, IMO.
 
Mat
8:55 PM
If you insist. I appreciate
 
@rene I see you still have the weekly close events mentioned on your profile. When reading up on all the mod nominations I realised my queue duties are sorely lacking, and that they dropped off about the same time Closey and the weekly events went. It gave me a sense of usefulness, as opposed to zwemmen tegen de bierkaai. Any chance of either of those (and preferably both of course) coming back?
 
@Makyen thanks!
 
Mat
On another note, it's kinda weird that you must copy the identical js for every snippet
Would be neat to have some sort of snippet spoiler thing
 
@rene np. I hope that it's helpful. I'll probably do another pass or two of editing, but the base info is there.
 
@Adriaan I'm happy to bring them back but not as frequent as they used to be. Let me check with the other RO's first before I start adding a zillion events again
 
9:01 PM
\o/ you're my favourite flower!
(Not my favourite plant though, I'd get in a domestic fight with Klaas-Jan, my Sanseveiria)
 
@Mat There are some things that you can do. For instance, I'll often put repeated code in a <script> in the HTML section of the snippet, and leave just the portion of interest in the JavaScript section. That does a reasonable job of making it more clear what's changed/under discussion. I may do that here, but haven't worked on refining the presentation, as of yet.
 
9:24 PM
Anyone on Firefox on Windows willing to help me test something real quick?
 
send away @MadaraUchiha
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Start typing something, then CTRL+A, and while CTRL still being held, press backspace
Does it not delete anything for you too?
 
something
so no.
 
This is supremely annoying :/
 
ctrl+backspace just seeks to the start of the message
 
9:28 PM
CTRL+A + backspace is a sequence I use a lot, and fast, and sometimes the CTRL doesn't get released in time
 
Basically it does something, though.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I can even guess the logic
 
Beats the language switching when doing alt+shift instead of shift+alt.
 
CTRL+backspace deletes one word back, with CTRL+A, the cursor is found at the beginning of the string (while it's all selected), one word back from the beginning is nothing, and the cursor jumps top the start.
I reached this conclusion because CTRL+Delete does one word forward
 
fun fact. Use "suppr" instead of delete.
fun fact: CTRL+A then CTRL+suppr: deletes "fun"
 
9:31 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I use Win+Space to switch keyboard layouts
Got used to it from Linux
Works on Wandows too
 
I just removed all keyboard layouts but one, so no more switching...
 
10:12 PM
the answer to Smokey's latest has a suggested edit pending which changes code (very slightly)
 
11:10 PM
@Joshua Is there some activity on/about this question which isn't obvious from the question page (mentioned somewhere, a rejected edit, proposed dup, etc.)? The last activity shown for this question was 2 years, 3 months ago. That's too old for a cv-pls. While there isn't an explicitly stated limit, cv-pls requests should, generally, be for questions for which the community benefits from them being closed quickly. Please see #11 in the FAQ.
 

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