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3:13 AM
@KenWhite Unclear, too - I don't understand what the OP is trying to do, or what part of that he's having trouble with.
 
 
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4:13 AM
hmm... the title is junk, but what's inside seems reasonably scoped. No-MVCE?
 
5:08 AM
@MikeM. who upvotes this stuff?
 
 
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6:48 AM
^ also horrible opinion-based recommendation question
 
7:00 AM
Morning \o
 
 
@MikeM. I've re-posted the request for you without the link to the deleted answer. Basically, there just isn't any way to guarantee that your original request won't get moved whenever we run the archiver (i.e. before it's actually complete or the actual expiration time).
 
:P :P :D
 
8:00 AM
Morning
 
Morning
 
Morning
 
@SmokeDetector Isn't one time enough?
 
8:29 AM
Hi
 
Howdy
 
8:41 AM
@Yam Has an MCVE now, no longer requests an off-site resource. Imo worth reopening
 
8:55 AM
The above is a spam IMHO
 
@VladimirF Looking at the image I agree with it being spam
 
it's not. That's the whatsapp link preview
 
Well, consider me disputed. That image really looked like spam for something about bitcoins or whatever to me :(
 
 
o/
 
\0
 
@rene Why the long face?
 
I like the variation ...
 
:)
 
9:43 AM
 
ô/
 
you punk
 
:)
 
:)
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10:46 AM
Hello , quick question for the moderators , My bounty just closed and i have 24 hrs to give the points however none of the answers actually helped so I put in an answer myself. Do i have any options for reclaiming my points ?
 
@Rajeshwar No, once a bounty is offered it's as good as gone (save truly exceptional circumstances I believe)
 
@Rajeshwar That's not a question for moderators (those are the diamond ones). Anyway, the answer is no. You can't. You;ll not get your rep back in any way, all you can do is spite the people who put effort into answering by not awarding the bounty explicitly. If an answer gathered a score of >2 during the bounty period, the highest voted amongst those will get half of the stated bounty.
 
You can refuse to award it, in which case the system will award half of it for you, and destroy the other half.
 
ahh ok. I rather give my points to someone else. The answers there dont make any sense at all
 
If there are no +2 answers there and you don't award the bounty, the system will sink all of it.
 
10:50 AM
:42841457 please don't one-box that, just add some text in front of the link, you can still edit that
 
sorry
that was the link
there are only 2 answers and I actually answered my own question
 
One of the answers is self-admitted plagiarism, but they forgot where they got the code from. Do we do anything about this (trying to find the original, modflag, down vote, whatever)?
 
@Adriaan without a source it is a bit of a gamble for a mod-flag, I'm sure Brad will decline
 
the other answer is just link to other posts which i have already read
its not even an answer just a bunch of links
 
@Rajeshwar "If you do not award the bounty within 24 hours of the bounty period ending, half the bounty value will be automatically awarded to the top voted answer posted after the bounty start, provided it has a score of at least 2. If no new answer matches this requirement, no reputation will be awarded at all, and the reputation used on the bounty will be lost forever.", so the 4 vote answer user will get 25 rep, the rest will be gone
 
10:54 AM
@Rajeshwar you can vote on the answers anyway you see fit
 
Yeah ill do that thanks anyways
 
@NickA oh, after the bounty start even, didn't know. I though a present answer gathering +2 or more during the period already would get the bounty. You learn every day I suppose
 
@Adriaan I suppose thats in place to stop you feeding rep to an existing answer
 
You can still award rep to existing answers manually
 
that ^
 
10:57 AM
@JohnDvorak Yes, my original message was too long to fit that...
 
if you want to feed it, you obviously do it yourself to stop half the bounty being wasted.
 
@Rajeshwar Here are 2 links I think are relevant to your case: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/294803/… meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/276494/…
 
Or, you might consider burning rep beneficial to giving it and a Blue Badge of Excellence to an undeserving answer.
 
I wrote a question some time ago (over a year), and I'm not very happy with it, I think it was poorly written and just a bit confused (no answers), would I be better deleting it and reasking it differently and more succinctly or editing it (which would essentially be a total rewrite (including the code))
 
@NickA if it has no answers or votes, I would delete.
 
11:08 AM
@rene The question itself is +1/-0
 
Well, that doesn't seem to hurt much ...
 
@rene Indeed, I'll leave it for now so that I can look at it while writing up the new one, then delete
 
11:21 AM
Is there anything I can do if a question that blatantly shouldn't be re-opened is getting reopen votes due to "popularity"
 
@NickA walk away
 
Or maybe comment
 
Fair enough and I've done so @JohnDvorak
 
Or maybe stash it for later to cast a closevote of your own
 
@NickA If it's old and popular, you could modflag and make a case for a historical lock
 
11:25 AM
@NickA You could file a delv-pls request. But you should add a good reasoning why we should take action.
 
"bears the risk of reopening" sounds like a reasoning
 
@Olaf I wouldn't want to do that because it's possibly a fairly useful question, just off-topic and it's not popular enough for that @ErikvonAsmuth, it's got 5.5k views over 6 years ("popular"?)
 
@JohnDvorak Bears can register here, too? Heck, the companies and zoos do everything to make a buck or two from their animals.
@NickA As I sasy: "How to grill a seak to the point" is also a good question. Nevertheless I'd VtC/Delv it here. If you think it does not belong here, be consequently. There is still no automatism casting votes, making the audience to check the question broader.
 
We have a free bear being a vagabond right now
Translation here: translate.google.com/…
 
Bear life expectancy is 25 years, so they can pass the COPPA bar, but just bear-ly.
 
11:31 AM
OK I admin, gtranslate is crap
> If they still need to be stoned,
Now that's funny :D
 
@Olaf It's a question looking for a plugin for an IDE, so it's only off-topic in the sense that it's a recommendation request (but still blatantly off-topic)
 
@kayess Lol. Tht reminds me of the bear crossing the Austria/Bavaria border multiple times some years ago. Was the summer-time headlines for weeks. Until it got shot dead by Bavartian police or something like that. I wonder how hard it would have been to just knock it out and relocate. But they are strict when someone crosses the border without passport.
@NickA That would indeed qualify for a delv. It's typically cucumbers who re-open vote such crab.
@JohnDvorak They eat them??
 
@NickA Imo it's not that blatant. You can edit this into How do I use multiple cursors in Netbeans instead of Gimme a plugin for multiple cursors in Netbeans, and since that's standard functionality, it's that's not off-topic. You could question if using multiple cursors is unique to software development, but I'd say it's unique enough, not many other cases for it.
 
@NickA Funny, The KDE standard editor kwrite has this feature since many years.
@ErikvonAsmuth I disagree. It's OT, and the features seems to have been added in a specific version. It is not clear if OP uses this version.
 
Ron
11:47 AM
@Olaf Poor bear.
 
@ErikvonAsmuth It is blatant, the fact that it can likely be edited to be on topic doesn't make it not clearly off-topic now
 
@Ron Maybe the bear was a freelancer and had enough being exploited for internal dog fights.
 
@NickA That's true, but we should edit questions into shape when possible, instead of deleting them, if that doesn't change the validity of existing answers. Imo this one is a good case for such an edit. I feel a bit conflicted editing and reopening because you've raised it for deletion, but else I would've already done that.
 
@ErikvonAsmuth There must be a RO around to delete my del-pls request, if you feel conflicted enough to edit/reopen
 
@ErikvonAsmuth Did you have a look at the dates of the Q and the answers? Apparently the question is outdated since many years. It's not worth to keep, less to re-open, as there is no new information to be added and it won't roomba.
 
11:59 AM
@Olaf I think mainly about future visitors, that will likely come here from Google looking how they can use multiple cursors. The first answer explains that nicely. Imo it's worth to keep. At least, after my edit, it no longer requests an off-site resource, and I don't see another reason why it's not fit for this site
 
@ErikvonAsmuth I'm pretty sure google will show something else if this question is removed. And even if they end up at a ldead link: call me an optimist, but maybe that makes these "future readers" rtfm. With much luck, this might even become a movement: people reading the manual before asking dumbb questions. (tomorrow in this theatre: "Utopia - where grilled chicken fly freely in the air (deep-fried for Americans)")
 
@ErikvonAsmuth The questions case isn't helped by the fact that the gif in the accepted answer is taken (unattributed) from the netbeans docs
 
@Olaf I can already read the headline: people over the world suddenly started reading manuals! Stack Overflows visitor rate dropped by 90%, while new questions become extremely rare. But in all seriousness, I often search for simple things like this too, and am often happy to find a simple SO answer that's just the information I want to have instead of a manual page I have to skim through to find what I want.
@NickA That's true, thanks for pointing it out. I've addressed it with an edit, and as far as I can see it's available under an open license, so that takes care of that.
 
12:16 PM
@ErikvonAsmuth And if you don't find the simple answer by a simple search, you commit suicide? Or could it happen you start reading the manual and maybe find not only the information you search for, but other useful things? Point is: you don't bring an argument why a question which is both, clearly OT and outdated should be kept. With your argumentation we should keep everty question once it has some halfway reasonable answer, just because of google.
Looks like the cucumbers won for now.I just don't understand why it had to be re-opened at all. It only makes sense if someone wants to add a new answer, which does not make sense.
 
@Olaf If you have a valid close reason for the question in its current state, I'm glad to hear it, and might even throw in a vote if I agree. I'm not against closing old off-topic questions (else I wouldn't be here), I'm just against deleting upvoted and possibly helpful content, and I'm very much for editing things into shape whenever possible
 
@Vega Yes, that is unclear
 
Yeah an unclear cv-pls, we should formulate cv-pls for cv-pls's
:p
 
I know, I have big fingers and i hit enter before ;)
 
before what? ;o
 
12:23 PM
Sorry
Before I finished typing the whole sentance:)
 
Does this question seem too broad? I'm not sure it's answerable as-is but I'm not sure
@kayess That'll work
 
12:38 PM
Afternoon o7
 
Morning
 
@Olaf The mods have spoken with a historical lock
 
@Yam It is unclearly broad
 
That's certainly unexpected. Especially since the it is not considered a good, on-topic question for this site. But it's not for me to question the word of the gods
*mods! I meant mods
3
 
@NickA Yes, I just saw it. I don't think it's worth to keep, but definitively better that than having it open unnecessarily. I wonder if the re-openers actually understand what a closed question means.
 
12:44 PM
@Olaf I think one did, but succumbed to peer pressure (from the first comment), and we can't fault erik, he at least tried to make it better
 
@ErikvonAsmuth Brad Larson has forgiven your apostasy. Don't let it happen again :P
 
@Yam Still terrible
 
@tripleee NATO for that last request
never mind. it is gone now.
 
@Nkosi hmm, are you trying to say I should submit it to NATO somehow or what?
 
lol
 
12:53 PM
@tripleee We used to have a mod who trolled the CVQ for NATO requests but it's kinda fallen out of style since they no longer do that
 
when requesting on old posts we usually include NATO -> New Answer To Old posts
 
right, the req generator just copies over the reason I click when I vtc
 
or at least that is what I observed
 
there's no mandate to add NATO to those requests tho
 
though I could pop over into here to edit the generated message if the NATO tag is important
@Machavity okay, thanks for clarifying
 
12:57 PM
@NickA Point is I don't see any use polishing a turd.
 
@Olaf Nor do I, but I can understand why people do
 
Meh, 20 upvotes in <2 years on the answer means it's worth polishing imo. But agree to disagree I guess
 
@NickA Understanding does not imply acceptance, less agreeing. In fact, one can't argue reasonably against something one does not understand. So that's the basis for every reasonable discussion. Not that it cares most folks nowadays whether they underwstand the opponent's position or not, they are not even interested in discussion, just a clash of statments.
@ErikvonAsmuth I'm fine with that. I don't support the "modern" way of having to agree about all and everything. That won't bring us any further. Seeing how yuickly the question got closed again and how quickly it got three delvs before re-open tells me enough.
 
@Olaf Agreed ;)
 
@ErikvonAsmuth: I just wonder why you voted to re-open instead of asking a mod to just lock.
 
1:13 PM
@Olaf Because if it's not off-topic, it doesn't need locking, and I thought I could edit it into an on-topic question. And I had some time to waste, so the effort required doesn't matter to me (yes, it doesn't need new answers, but that doesn't really matter in the discussion if it should be open or closed)
 
1:27 PM
@ErikvonAsmuth How is any of this prohibited for a closed question? Any yes, it very well matters, as the question - as I pointed out multiple times before - is outdated since at least 2 years according to the answers.
 
What would be the correct close reason for this question?
 
@Olaf That's the main thing we disagree on I guess. The accepted answer doesn't look outdated to me. And yes, it doesn't need to be reopened, but I tend to reopen all questions that don't have a reason to be closed (mainly to avoid confusion about why the question is closed). It doesn't need to be closed either.
@AndréKool Too broad or Primarily opinion based both fit. You could use a more apt custom reason, but no real need.
 
@ErikvonAsmuth Too Broad it is :) Thanks @MunimMunna
 
@AndréKool I requested a cv-pls, it can also be opinion based.
 
1:46 PM
@tripleee I do that (edit the message to add NATO after posting) but Makyen informed me it's not mandatory, so up to you really
 
what is POB?
 
@Nambu14 Primarily Opinion-Based
 
thks!!!
 
@Nambu14 hey, it seems you've lost the middle two letters somewhere along the way
 
@JohnDvorak in my country they charge you by letter ;)
 
1:53 PM
@SmokeDetector well it's blocked for me at work...
 
@TylerH it is an SO scraper site. That answer found the copy of the accepted answer ...
 
ah
Reported to SO's team
 
 
falls in from the sky and plops
 
@Compass Naked Chicken Chalupas. Thoughts?
 
I ordered one yesterday.
It was okay.
Wild is a bit spicy.
Of course, with my level of spice tolerance, it was not.
 
2:40 PM
@Nambu14 is that a cv-pls request? If so, please be sure to include the text [tag:cv-pls] at the beginning
that way it will show that cv-pls button and can be collected by our automated cleanup process that moves completed requests to a 'completed' chatroom
 
2:58 PM
lol 'all of this is for learning purposes, as this is a unusual thing it might be considered for malicious use, I don't support malware in any way, due to that reason there is going to be minimal amount of code posted here so it couldn't be used for malware'

So defensive, so shielded. Obviously, it's for malware development:(
 
who is just a security researcher
 
@TylerH ........ nah.
 
@MartinJames Remember, we should assume good faith
 
@TylerH sure, like that would be a good defense in a class action against all those who helped with malware development:(
 
3:01 PM
@MartinJames what post?
 
@Alec This: stackoverflow.com/q/50743864/758133 I've not voted to down/close it because of the 0.000000001% chance that it's not malware development.
I'm never sure what to do with such posts. The uername is 'Unknownxxxxx', it's a member-for-today and no profile details.
 
@MartinJames What the underground is a "code cave"?
 
Lets face it, no straight-up security researcher would begin a post with such a hopeless disclaimer - they would know that such 'learning purposes' etc. are just noise and can not, and would not, be believed by anyone who has been on the net for more than a month.
 
They convinced me ...
 
@Olaf It's an area that can be modified to change the flow of execution of binary code. It's a term used by hack.... malwa... security researchers and the like.
 
3:11 PM
@rene I'm not convinced that you are convinced...
 
Bah ...
 
puts an orange into the freezer
 
Lat year, I would have written a comment about the waste of characters in the first paragraph, (ie. all of them). Now, I have to just ignore such rubb.. . dubious posts.
 
@MartinJames And, does it work?
 
Welp, it must be Monday somewhere. Someone asked an interpersonal question on RPG.SE and I commented saying "this may be better asked on interpersonal.stackexchange" and a moderator jumped down my throat for attempting to "undermine the site"
 
3:22 PM
starts to image a person trying to fit in another person's esophagus
 
get to teh metaz!@#
hiya gunr \o
 
yo!
 
@Yam Not even close to a MCVE
 
@TylerH The correct response there would be "Roll to see if you save it for this site"
 
@TylerH Looking at the discussion, if it's any consolation, I'm on your side in this one
 
3:25 PM
@Machavity The moderator rolled a nat 1 on their performance check...
 
Now updating window to 1803 and it has been updating for more than an hour. Sheesh. On phone now. :p
 
@NickA I was just so taken aback at the severity of the response more than anything
 
In that same time I was able to change transmission oil in my vehicle. Which I have been meaning to do for a while. Silver lining. Lol
 
@Nkosi Wow ... 1803 ... how long before you are ready for Windows ME?
 
@TylerH Yeah, I had a look and it's quite the wall, while not abusive it's quite bitter
 
3:28 PM
Lol the windows 10 update
 
Can a mod review a flag on their own comment/post?
 
heated
 
hum, my feedback didn't make it to the website
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
3:31 PM
@gunr2171 ✓ You are a privileged user.
 
hum.
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@AndréKool ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
 
@AndréKool Thanking you
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
3:34 PM
@Alec ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
 
You are not privileged, you are not privileged and you are not privileged, you all are not privileged!
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@JohnDvorak ✓ You are a privileged user.
 
thanks Oprah
well, I guess the bot was rebooting at the same time that I replied, so meh.
 
Yeah, it isn't exactly trying to be 100% up
 
3:41 PM
BUT WHAT I SAY IS IMPORTANT, EVERYONE SHOULD ALWAYS BE LISTENING!!!
 
WUT?
 
@gunr2171 SD was in a meeting. Cut it some slack
2
 
: )
thankfully I get a half-day of work tomorrow. Work-sponsored BBQ at 11:30 then go home.
 
nice
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
3:52 PM
@AlonEitan ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
 
How dare you
 
@AlonEitan if you want privs, get a RO to vouch for you
 
No, I don't need any at the moment
 
Oh good, that means I don't need to say good things about you...
(just joking, you're a good user)
 
LOL thanks mom
 
3:59 PM
@NickA I posted a question about the interaction on Meta RPG
But I saw some troubling trends of questions when searching for appropriate tags to use for the question...
 
you broke chat?
maybe not ...
 
Me? :(
 
@TylerH We'll miss you in your new role of RO on RPGCVR
 
@Vega No worries, we brake lots of things here ;)
 
@Machavity lol
 
4:09 PM
Can some of you that know how VS2017 handles nuget stuff in a C++ setting have a look at this question: stackoverflow.com/q/50729642/578411 (and judge if the answer, while solving the issue, is worth keeping). It seems to be a classic compiler/linker misconfiguration between an x86 and x64 build
 
4:21 PM
@TylerH Gave it +1 will have a closer look later, on the bus home
 
I wonder what actions are required to trigger this mp3 chat.stackoverflow.com/Content/wheel7.mp3
2
 
@AlonEitan Wow! :D
 
Full of gibberish!
 
4:46 PM
@AlonEitan how did you find that?
 
It was in the source code
 
hun
 
@Makyen Good day! I've found 2 questions which are imho duplicates. One has recent activity (a new answer). I want to cv-pls the one without recent activity because the new answer makes the other q a better target. This seems to me within the spirit of the rules but it's not clearly defined in the FAQ. Is it ok to post the cv-pls or not?
oh sorry @gunr2171 is more recently active
 
@StephenKennedy the spirit of the rule is "there is a lot of stuff to get closed on the site. You can spend a lot time digging through the history of posts and generate a lot of close-able items. If you want to bring them here, make sure they're new. We'd rather help OPs improve their behavior by closing their questions (wow that sounds mean) than close long-abandoned posts." So, with your example... I'm not sure. The post you want us to look at is old, even the target is new. (cont)
I have no problems with closing an older post as a newer one because the newer is a better post, just not sure if this is a good use for the room.
afk meeting
 
5:02 PM
I'm allowed to cv-pls the one with the new answer, which came to my attention as a NATO not through any digging, so I would argue it slightly perverse if I'm not allowed to reverse the cv-pls to close the older one. I will of course abide by any ruling :)
 
@feelingunwelcome @Machavity @AdrianHHH @PaulRoub a question you close voted led to a meta post (and the question you closed was edited). Mind checking both and chime in there when you have anything to add.
 
@StephenKennedy I support this. If we really strive for quality, we should keep the best dupe. And this room should sopport it. If that helps anyone: One could argue that with a better and newer dupe, there is NATO to the old dupe. Simply because the new answer could as well have been given to the old question (isn't that the idea of a dupe?).
 
@rene Nothing to add; I think the suggested meta duplicate is on track. I actually CV-ed after the edit, and Makoto's meta response sums up why.
 
ok
 
@Olaf Thanks. The NATO could indeed be given to the not recently active question, an option I'm keeping open. The older question has an answer "this is a bug in the product". The new answer is that the bug is fixed and it has a link to the issue. The other option I'm keeping open is closing the tab and forgetting all about it :)
 
5:20 PM
@StephenKennedy In the spirit of SO and this room as I understand it, I'd prefer to allow cv-pls for such situations. Unless there is an "official" statement for this from the ROs, maybe this could be subject for discussion?
 
5:30 PM
finally.....update finished
 
user177800
@rene I was writing 3D rendering engines before most people that use SO were born. Regardless, it is easy to see this is Too Broad / Primarily Opinion Based / Recommendations one of those or all depending on your opinion of "how can I do this" is interpreted. Nothing to comment on the meta post or the actual question, the close reason says it all. I do not need that person attacking me personally. Vote, move on ...
 
sure
 
curl in command line out of the box, yaay
 
"I was writing <XYZ> before most people that use SO were born. " - it's true statements like this which make me feel old.
 
@Olaf I remember when we had to read emails by candlelight...
 
5:45 PM
@Machavity Candles?Bah! We had to get a torch to see the email. Scrolling was done by lifting the reader up standing before the cave wall. Only good thing is we used images, not letters.
 
@Olaf Ah, yes. Good 'ol UTF-1 text emojis
 
@Machavity FYI: here's an early signature of mine: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SantaCruz-CuevaManos-P2210651b.jpg
 
@Olaf Wow, Stack UnderRock! I'd forgotten all about that
 
@Machavity Well, "be nice" back then meant to use a wooden club instead of a rock.
 
@olaf , to quote ESR (if you're old, you know) "What we are, unapologetically, is hostile to people who seem to be unwilling to think or to do their own homework before asking questions." now, apparently, that's "unwelcoming".
 
5:56 PM
@JeffUK Clash of cultures. To me asking questions letting the other side mostly guess what one wants and to put more effort into an answer the asker can understand (from the knowledge shown) than it took to find the answer himself is a very hostile behaviour, because it cost the most precious and unrecoverable currency to the answerer: time.
 
6:23 PM
what's the name of the moderator-only chat? teachers lounge?
I can never emember
 
@TylerH Teachers Lounge
 
Not to be confused with Lounge C++ (which is the antithesis of Mod chat)
 
@Machavity heh
 
Lounge C++ has mostly migrated to Discord, though, IIWTC
 
@NathanOliver thanks
 
6:31 PM
np
 
6:42 PM
@rene The original question seemed too broad. The edit does has not changed much. The answers on meta sum things up nicely.
 
ok
 
@Nkosi code (unformatted) got added, it's now a typo at best
 
ok checking now
Yes @Yam it is shaping up. I'll retract my initial request.
Can a RO remove my last cv-pls
 
7:03 PM
 
7:34 PM
@Vega "string" has a higher weight than "scala", wat?
 
Indeed, 1.5 times more
When I posted the last cv-pls, I was afraid to see an even bigger head. phew...
 
shog?
 
7:52 PM
@gunr2171 lol
 
rude/abusive or NAA flag ? stackoverflow.com/a/50749098/5468463
 
8:09 PM
@Vega Abusive, but also a good reason to get the question closed&deleted for being blatantly off-topic.
 
Thank you! Good point
I am hesitating on this one, the link is suspicious: stackoverflow.com/q/50749272/5468463
 
@Vega I just voted to close as too broad.
 
@Vega link is fine, question should be closed for unclear/TB
or "general computer"
 
Thank you both!
 
really that has nothing to do with programming
@Vega want to review that suggested edit?
You know, with that attempted query in the comments, the post might be good enough to keep open
 
8:29 PM
@MunimMunna It's actually not even programming related (general computing).
 
@Yam Yes now it is good as far as I don't know a lot about the matter.
 
@Olaf so can we send it to superuser?
 
@gunr2171 It's less broad. I will think a second or two :)
 
@MunimMunna question is 6 years old. Cut-off for migration is 60 days.
 
@gunr2171 thanks I didn't know that, then I guess we just leave it closed :)
 
8:37 PM
@Makyen Thanks. Looks like it finally got closed.
 
@MunimMunna I don't think so. It's also POB or TB. Don't migrate questions which are off-topic on the target site, too. I just think we should use the topmost reason for closure.
(even if we could migate it, of course)
 
@Olaf so POB is OK for it, right?
 
Read the last sentence in my reply.
 
@Olaf OK i got it :)
 
@MunimMunna Closing as POB would imply the question could be improved to make it aceptable. For this question it is not possible without asking a completely different question. It's a red herring.
 
8:47 PM
@Olaf is the "Darth Vader" of the tag still on vote strike?
 
@tripleee Welcome to [android]. We love upvoting stuff like that.
 
@Olaf So what should we do? leave it closed/delete it? I am at a loss
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I have no idea. Maybe you should ask him?
 
Darth Maul here is keeping the votes up (and down)
 
@MunimMunna It does not make sense to change the request now. I'd leave it as-is now, but think about it for the future. There're already enough red herrings in the pool, no need to confuse posters even more;-}.
 
9:06 PM
Aaarggghhh! 'I kind of read many sources and made up the code. I wrote it in .cpp, so thought it should me tagged c++'
 
@MartinJames .cpp - a new programming language?
 
@Olaf I believe it's based on compiled PHP.
 
@MartinJames WHy does no one use Perl for this anymore? Or sed or awk. Wimps, all wimps.
80kph?? kilo-Pascal hours??
 
@Olaf Meh...
 
@MartinJames Muh!
 
9:14 PM
@Olaf Anyway, it's too late for me to edit it to km/h, or whatever the French dreamed up as the derived unit for speed.
@RiggsFolly Someone kindly translated it. Now I can understand how bad it is.
 
@MartinJames: "NULL is an invalid pointer value" - WHAT? It's the only pointer vaild guaranteed by the standard (assuming he means whatever the macro contains, not the macro itself). Quality of answers is degrading even faster than questions. I never thought this is possible.
 
@Olaf Massive train wreck throughout. This is what happens when wild cucumbers are allowed to breed out-of-control :(
 
@MartinJames The difference is wild plants normally are smaller than their cultivated pendants. Anyway: OP made clear in a comment it's not the same code he uses. facepalm & COL
 
@Olaf OK, train wreck and then a rescue helicopter crashed on top of the racing fire tender which then overturned onto waiting ambulances. Then a fleet of 'concerned' local politicians blocked the only access with their limos.
 
Maybe I should lurk where the wild roses grow, not the wild cucumbers.
@MartinJames The C tag reminds me of the Dying Light setting.
 
9:24 PM
@Olaf lol
 
9:49 PM
@MartinJames: 2 hours ago we had a 1+sec drop in the power grid. Seems my UPS is worth the money. That about "stable power grid" in Germany.
 
@Olaf Serves you lot right for closing the nuclear power stations and digging up more lignite instead :)
Anyway, I have to go downtown to the the Black Swan to pick up what is left of my wife after the darts league 'meeting'. She has a problem with driving herself after such meetings. Actually, she has a problem with walking after such meetings. AFK
 
@MartinJames Bah, I doubt it's that. The problem is we have an open transformer/switching plant nearby. Too low inductance from there to here to dampen spikes in any direction. What's missing here is (very) high-energy overcurrent/voltage protection for each house and the main fusebox of each flat. I don#t want to even think about what happens if there is a serious overvoltage condition in the grid,. no caught by the distribution stations/transformers.
Btw. France and other countries (not sure about GB) would look quite dumb without the German wind generators. The NPPs in France are notoriously shout down in summer due to lack of cooling water. In winter they need a lot of power due to electrical heating.
 
10:57 PM
I know they aren't exactly the same... but same general concept
 
@Olaf Oh - a bit like here, then. Our power arrives via an overhead power line, spread over many km of open fields, with the occasional small transformer feeding one farm or 1/2/3 houses. We are at the end of this 'long wire antenna for the detection and reception of EMP from lightning' :((
 
@MartinJames Actually it would be much easier if there were more local, decentralised power storages. Batteries, mass wheels, etc. But not exactly, the power arrives via open lines, but is spread underground in th are (from what I can see). Proper flash-protection is a general problem and it could become even worse with centralised power plants as they have to handle much larger currents if a flash ignites an electric arc and the power plant provides the currrent to maintain it.
I only encountered problems from flashes in this place, never before where I lived. Not sure if it's the degrading quality of the power grid (which is well known) or just a local phenomenon. It happened here once every few years at least (I might have missed some events) before which is why I bought the Back-UPS. Well invested 150€ (IIRC, and that thing is oversized).
 
@Olaf Yes. Our little transformer on the pole has a some spark-gap arrestors and stuff, but I suspect they protect the transformer as all our appliances die. In any case, an actual strike on the cables looks upon the transformer, spark gaps etc. as a minor inconvenience that can be just casually exploded on the way past:(
 
11:20 PM
@MartinJames Sounds like you need proper surge protection for your house. It should not be that complicated to install if you have a decent power distribution in your house. But if that's some old "barn", tearing it down and building a new one could be cheaper and less problematic. A friend of mine could tell you much more about this subject. And even in his very native language.
Anyway, I'll check if the thunderstorm brought at least some cooling to my bedroom. Good night!
 
@Olaf Well, we have a generator we could use during storms, but we would need some means of securely isolating from the mains cables. The 100A circuit-breaker, as supplied by the power utility, is nowhere near adequate when considering lightning.
@Olaf Nite:)
 

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