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12:39 AM
@AndrasDeak You got 15 more rep just now. :D
 
Congrats on hitting 20k!
 
thank you :)
I'll try to keep my downvotes at bay in order to stay above it
 
Also, it took me forever just to read that, I can't imagine how much time you put into writing it. Very impressive!
 
hehe, thanks, and sorry I guess ;D
I've been ruminating about writing that up, but I spent most of Sunday investigating the threads
 
12:44 AM
@AndrasDeak, why is v @ v.T the same as v @ v? Does it try and find compatible dimensions? Does this only happen for vectors? It looks strange to me!
 
1d arrays are invariant under a transpose
so v.T is the exact same object an object of the same shape and content as v if v.ndim < 2
actually v.T is a view even for 1d arrays :) I guess they didn't special-case it
and to answer your question, it should follow the same semantics as v.dot(v.T) as far as numpy is concerned
which is to say, yes, it will only give you the same result as without the transpose if v is a scalar or a 1d array
(or if v is symmetric etc.)
 
Ah, OK. Thanks for clarifying.
 
no worries :)
 
 
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2:15 AM
Folk on here seem to like odd music. How about Jimi Hendrix’ Voodoo Child on ukelele?
The guy is quite impressive, and a little obsessed with ukeleles.
 
 
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3:38 AM
MATLAB doesn't have tuples like python does, almost everything (worth working with) is an array. Please read the Getting started section of the wonderful online documentation of MATLAB and go on from there. — Andras Deak 6 hours ago
"worth working with"
That got a good chuckle out of me, @Andras. Well-done. #DownWithTables
 
 
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8:02 AM
Anybody cares to comment?
I would regard this kind of "get-away" in an educational and scientific application as horrible, since it does not throw an error when there is an edge case, nor even warn the users that what they see is not what they have asked for, especially when they do not talk about the coercing behavior in the official manual. Eg a student learning interpolation who never refers to other sources would think "when pchip takes less than 4 points the result is the same as linear" rather than "pchip will break when it takes less than 4 points" — Yvon 16 hours ago
 
8:56 AM
@Dev-iL I think they're right
 
9:08 AM
I may agree about the no-warning part, but an error might be excessive
 
9:33 AM
@Yvon or it teaches you not to do things blindly, but instead always be aware of what the code you use does. — Ander Biguri 13 secs ago
however they are possibly right
 
MATLAB is known to hold the user's hand and allow various "bad idea" codes to still run
 
The same argument can be done then against broadcasting (@AndrasDeak :P )
BTW, did you end up playing that fallout boardgame?
 
@AnderBiguri Broadcasting is like MATLAB's Goodwin law :D
 
hahahaa
 
@AnderBiguri That's a negative.. We wanted it to be the 2nd game we played, but then the first game (Rick&Morty Munchkin) took too long to finish
 
9:45 AM
Thats th eproblem with Munchkin. It can take from 30mins to 3h
 
Sam
yo
 
Does Octave have a function like MATLAB's bounds? (@Andy)
 
@Sam tú?
 
Sam
huh
 
@Dev-iL yeah, warning might work. Something like "insufficient number of points passed to pchip, falling back to linear interpolation"
 
9:49 AM
@AnderBiguri you know the joke about soy milk?
 
No, but I see where this is going :D
whats the joke about soy milk
 
Sam
Soy milk is no joke
 
@Sam (yo <-> me) (tú <-> you)
hahaha yeah :D
 
Also, I believe yo <-> I is a better translation
 
9:52 AM
yes, in fact it is
 
Now I'm not so sure... For example "mejor que yo" would be "better than me", no? Anyhow it depends on the sentence
 
@TroyHaskin :-) I used to be against tables as well, but I must admit they are useful sometimes. They probably don't do anything that cell arrays or structs won't do, but are just easier to work with
 
@Dev-iL yes, both are yo, but for a literal translation of the word without context, "I" seems better
 
or did you mean that "+migo" (i.e. conmigo) is a better equivalent to "me"?
 
no, the +migo is not a thing right, its only conmigo. Just meant that up there, that the "yo" works for both "me" and "I", but alone I'd translate to "I". "I am"->"Yo soy" . Who did this? "me"->"yo". Works for both translations
OH, Imso proud of this:
 
10:00 AM
room topic changed to CHATLAB and Talktave: Room to discuss MATLAB and Octave related topics - Congratulations to András Deák on reaching 20k! Also... i.imgur.com/EHAPP7J.gif [matlab] [octave]
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Multi GPU concurrent execution of CT
ohhh yeah
 
Two 1080Ti? Should be nice for gaming :)
Are they connected with SLI? (If yes - does it matter for CUDA?)
 
no they are not, yes it matters for cuda, but it does not matter much for my application
my problem can be nicely split without cross-GPU talking
 
@Dev-iL That -go in conmigo has a curious origin. If I recall correctly, it comes from Latin me cum (me with). That "cum" eveolved into "-go" (typical sonorization of "c" to "g"), then people forgot about its meaning and re-attached con (which is with again). So essentially "conmigo" is "with me with".
 
derp spaniards
 
10:05 AM
What were they thinking of
 
Hehe.. thanks for the explanation!
 
in basque we have a lot of thisks like that due to nationalism :D
There were some dudes saying that all the words in basque comming from spanish were wrong, because spanish are a weak race and we basque are superior
so they changed a lot of basque words
unfortunatelly they were terrible linguists
 
@Dev-iL Better explanation, in Spanish (in case you want to practice): blog.lengua-e.com/2007/origen-de-conmigo
 
@AnderBiguri :'D
 
Belaunaldia->generations. But belauna-> knee. In latin, gen-genis is knee, gen-gentis is people
 
10:09 AM
Basque from Latin? That's surprising
 
we were using "generazioa" but that was bad because it came from spanish, so they tried to make up a word in basque directly from a latin transliteration, and they fucked up the root XD
 
Haha
 
they weren't the brightest XD as most people who claim their race is superior aren't
 
:-D
Basque is so old a language that it naturally lacks many modern words. It has to loan
 
yeah, and ti makes complete sense to loan from spanish
but you know, nationalism
 
Sam
10:11 AM
The Welsh are the most superior
 
by years of careful sheep-breeding
:D
 
Sam
:O
 
Isn't that a joke about Scots?
 
I think welsh also, there are a lot of sheep in wales
come on Welsh, you guys have a town called Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
that is not serious
 
Haha
 
Sam
10:13 AM
LOL
What's your point
 
That reminds me of the Irish town Dún Laoghaire. After several days I realized that what I was hearing as "Done leary" was spelled like that (!?)
 
@Sam none, im just fucking with you
 
Sam
Wales is the motherland
 
that photo is me and my friends being upset about the town name
 
Sam
10:15 AM
Wikipedia : Sheep shagger, also spelt sheepshagger or sheep-shagger, is a derogatory term, most often used to refer to Welsh people implying that the subject has sex with sheep.
LOL
The link is dead for me
 
@AnderBiguri It says unavailable content
^^
 
I'd have to log in so..
 
Haha
Nice "what the..." expressions
So, do they have to have beards to qualify as friends to you?
 
Sam
Get out of my country Ander!!
 
10:17 AM
Its a must
 
Sam
@LuisMendo LOL
 
@AnderBiguri a moust...ache? D:
 
>:U
 
@AnderBiguri How dare you insult the world's most ancient hash string!
 
10:17 AM
LOL XD
 
@Dev-iL I don't know what MATLABS "bound" is so I don't know :-)
 
@Andy essentially return both the minimum and the maximum of the input (like calling min and max, but presumably with just a single pass over the data)
 
@AnderBiguri oh, I forgot to reply to that. Yeah, sure. But broadcasting is for advanced users, and it's been like that in numpy from the start :P It's up for debate whether it's a good idea to introduce 30 years into the life of a language
 
@Dev-iL isnt that minmax
 
hm, seems not but should be easy to impelement
 
10:22 AM
@AndrasDeak I was just triying to contradict you though :D
 
@AnderBiguri hmm, never heard of minmax.. I suppose it could be similar..
 
In fact it seems the same as bound(A,2) but introduced in 2006 instead of 2017
 
@AnderBiguri I know :P
 
\o/ I passed my driving test :D
No more driving lessons! So much leisure time suddenly
 
beware beware
 
10:29 AM
ah, good month you are having eh :D Congrats
 
@Adriaan Gratz! I remember that feeling... Was a huge relief
What are driving tests like in Dutchland?
 
@AnderBiguri ghe, that's what my dad said as well :P
 
When are you starting at ETH? Because I'll be in Switzerland at the end of November and I want to know how careful I must be in the streets...
 
@AndrasDeak Your bday trip should be to the holy land!
 
not this year ;)
 
10:31 AM
@Dev-iL 2 parts: there's an optional midterm of ~30 mins, where you can cock up everything without it having effect on your final exam, but if you park well and are capable of turning in narrow streets you get exemption for those on the final exam.
 
Switzerland, the holy land of cheese and chocolate :D
 
@AndrasDeak Why? You aren't scared of a few rockets, are you?
 
@AndrasDeak starting 1 Feb. Won't be driving there I guess, except on a bike
@Dev-iL final exam is the same as the midterm (~30 mins, drive in a residential neighbourhood and on the highway), but you can't make mistakes.
 
@Adriaan phew!
@Dev-iL nah. But I can't stand the heat. And probably deserts in general
 
@Adriaan The obligatory question is.... how many tests did you have to do before you passed?
 
10:34 AM
@AndrasDeak you coming there when I'm living there as well>
@Dev-iL only the optional midterm. This was my first final
 
@AndrasDeak nocamels.com
 
although I took 63 hours of lessons, as opposed to the average of 35 or something
 
@Adriaan not that I know of, no
@Dev-iL ? :D
 
@AndrasDeak aww, poo, ask them to postpone the trip :D
 
I meant to say that we have neither heat (now) nor desert (in most of the country)
 
10:36 AM
ah :D
 
The weather is quite perfect to be honest... Sunny and chilly with the occasional rain
 
Yeah, I heard. Your november is an ideal summer here
 
Sam
11:26 AM
Unrelated C++ question as I know a few of you do it... Is there a nice structure I can use, kinda like a dictionary were I can link integer values and function pointers together
 
std::map ?
 
Sam
Not sure i'm familiar with that, lemme check
I've only just "learned" smart pointers :P
 
11:51 AM
looks suspicious to me?
Especially the 2 favs within 6 views (I am the 7th)
 
not necessarily
 
IDK, what is the benefit of stars?
 
well, 7 views and 2 favs yes, but only 1 upvote
one might be OP, the other a classmate
 
@AndrasDeak one fav is from the OP, the other by the classmate?
who must have had their account already, given they got 15 rep to upvote
 
yes, what I just said :P
I don't know what a good comsol question looks like
 
11:54 AM
Before the first edit by OP it was a total trainwreck o.0 stackoverflow.com/posts/53279699/revisions
@AndrasDeak not a clue; are they on-topic here? As in: is it "programming" or "GUI button pushing"
 
no idea
isn't simulink similar?
 
not really, as simulink is more like scratch, but advanced. You add blocks with specific functionality. Comsol is just simulation software
that said, Comsol was a MATLAB toolbox before
so it does have a programming interface
 
@AnderBiguri yea, tag excerpt says it has a MATLAB LiveLink API
 
Sam
@AnderBiguri std::map was the boy
 
Googled "C++ dictionary" :D
never used it in my life lol
 
Sam
11:58 AM
Yeah this is my first time. I hope its gentle with me
 
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Q: I'm supposedly eligible for an inheritance from a distant relative. Offer appears to be legitimate

alephzeroAbout 12 months ago I received a letter ostensibly from a company carrying out genealogical research for law firms. It said they were dealing with the estate of someone who had left money to my late mother, who died about 20 years ago. They wanted me to authorize them to take action to transfer t...

What a weird situation.
OP's kind of a dick though in the latter part of their self-answer
 
> So far as I'm concerned, she can go jump in a lake - I don't "do charity". She had 14 years to persuade Mary Smith to make the will she wanted, and failed - so that's not my problem!
You can say: this is alarge amount of money and I think I will keep it as it will help my finantial situation a lot. It woudl make you soudn less of a dick
but that sentence, yeah, OP is adick
 
somewhere in the comments he mentions to be >70 years old
so high chances that he's going to loose it too in short time :P
 
ah old Brits, lovely bunch
 
12:17 PM
And then the tax office takes another big chunk of the inheritance :P
At least here in NL the tax on inherited money is based on two things: the amount (the higher, the more taxes) and the 'distance' between deceased and beneficiary (the farther the more taxes)
So I guess a lot of money already went to the government if they needed to check 100+ relatives
 
Inheritance Tax is a tax on the estate (the property, money and possessions) of someone who’s died.

There’s normally no Inheritance Tax to pay if either:

the value of your estate is below the £325,000 threshold
you leave everything to your spouse or civil partner, a charity or a community amateur sports club
UK
£325,000 is a decent amount of untaxed stuff
 
@AnderBiguri wow, that's a LOT
I have no clue how high the threshold is here, but I'd guess a lot lower
 
Sam
12:54 PM
@Adriaan LOL
 
1:15 PM
Check out this question and its comments if you want to be amused:
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Q: ValueError: Unknown mat file type, version 101, 108 When I try to load .mat file

Aurangzeb RathoreI am trying to load a .mat file using python. I found the scipy.io library and am trying to use the loadmat function to perform this as follows. import numpy as np import scipy.io as sio mat_contents = sio.loadmat('system.mat') A = mat_contents['A'] b = mat_contents['b'] x = mat_contents['x'] ...

 
@Dev-iL ghe
I had a similar problem last week; I was raging that my algorithm wasn't good enough, since I could not find the weaker reflectors down in my model; turned out my algorithm is spot on, but I had rendered the model without those reflectors in the first place X.X
 
@Adriaan That's why people came up with the concept of "test problems"
 
Problem is my data management; all kind of random tries with data are on my server, for various models, all named the exact same, but in different folders.
I suck at data management
 
1:47 PM
@Dev-iL how did you find out his asigment?
 
@AnderBiguri I'm good at finding things ;)
 
yeah weirdly good
 
> it was a terrible over site
heh, ironic
 
I saw a whole imgur dump of these the other day
 
1:52 PM
you have that entire subreddit, probably imgur just copied from there
 
ah, I see
 
my favourite:
 
I don't believe most of these...but there's still a lot of room for stupid
 
I can't look at this anymore.. I have a friend who writes like that most of the time
 
me :D
 
2:02 PM
His brain is like "I know a word that sounds like what I want to say => let's write it!"
 
2:29 PM
@Dev-iL you mean @AnderBiguri?
 
@Adriaan That's a negative, one of my neighbors
 
An office mate of mine was searching stuff on the web about parpool creation in MATLAB, and came across my answers on SO :P
 
Many a time did I have colleagues come to me with the words "I am too lazy to look it up on google, so now why don't you tell me how to do XYZ". Fortunately for me, I'm in a different room than everybody else...
 
hehe
well, he knows how to feed the cluster jobs (I haven't used that, nor do I have an account) so he's running my script now.
approx. 48 hours of cluster torture, as opposed to 20 days of torture on the server I have access to :P
 
2:58 PM
@flawr I have a triangles question, a more "is this even possible within reasonable methods" type of question
 
helllooo gentlemen
 
@AnderBiguri Osteoporosis!
i.e. "bone atrophy"
@ballBreaker Conditions of my Parole was good. Kinda trippy.
 
Yeah I liked it, money shot is a good album too, listened to that on my drive to work this morning!
 
I'll have to check that one out today.
 
Fun fact: the lady who invented SVM went to the same highschool and uni as I
 
3:04 PM
Today is going to be a long day... I went out on a date last night and got really drunk. Hungover at work = the worst.
 
@ballBreaker Find a jar of pickles...
 
that would be fantastic right now
 
no supermarket near your work?
 
Yah, maybe I'll go at lunch
 
do you know what you're supposed to do with the pickles?
 
3:06 PM
eat them and drink the juice? idk
or insert them individually in my bum
one of those three options
 
Russian method says option 2
 
Has that been empirically tested by any of oyu?
 
okay I'll get a small jar hahaha
 
Another russian method is very similar but replace jar of pickles with bottle of vodka
 
thats exactly why I ask XD
 
3:08 PM
It seems like all of those options just dehydrate you more.
 
lmao
 
russian methods are semi-trustable
 
@AnderBiguri Russians managed to survive thus far with their horrible drinking habits - joke's on you!
 
I'll just inject the pickle juice right into my blood stream
 
@Dev-iL I mean, the drink more vodka is not wrong, I am just not that strong
 
3:10 PM
 
@gnovice Part of the hangover is that your body is in full throttle trying to break ethanol, but at some point there's nothing to break... so this contributes somehow to the nastiness of the hangover... give the body a small amount of ethanol to digest, and it will alleviate part of the syndroms
 
Interesting
The other day I smoked a cigarette while hungover and thought I was going to die
 
Hair of the dog!
 
I had to lay on the ground and focus on my breathing. All around a 10/10 experience.
 
@Dev-iL Hmmm, hadn't heard that before.
 
3:13 PM
*symptoms
 
So maybe I should spike the pickle juice with a little vodka then
 
That guy looks familiar
He's in movies and stuff, right?
 
 
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4:31 PM
So the takeaway here though is that I shouldn't chug pickle juice during my lunch break
 
4:44 PM
@ballBreaker I will never get tired of reccomending Jardin de la Croix: youtube.com/watch?v=g3LjpezxVqo
 
5:00 PM
I'm really digging the "discover weekly" playlists on spotify
I've found some really cool bands through that
i'll check your link out in a bit!
 
^ Matlabnski
 
Is that another accident?
 
Not exactly. This is more or less intended. I mean, it's a mess, but that's what it should be
(Signal power received on an aircraft from ground base stations. Reflections on Earth causing the ups and downs. Log scale)
 
@LuisMendo Nice!
 
its really nice :D
crayon-lab
 
5:12 PM
It's modern art!
I just found this song on my discovery playlist, not sure if you're into ambient-like music but this is nice youtube.com/watch?v=KYBulfbBstc
Or maybe if you're feeling something a bit more rocky, check dis
 
5:31 PM
Also @AnderBiguri while I'm at it, check this out. These guys kinda remind me of Chon
While I'm spamming you with music this album is awesome too
 
 
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6:54 PM
@CrisLuengo I noticed this edit review of yours. Just a heads-up that edits that update python 2 to 3 are usually frowned upon (and should be rejected), at least if the question is not version specific. At least edits like this should list both the old and the new versions. Otherwise it technically breaks (and might actually break) the original code
 
7:09 PM
@AndrasDeak Thanks for the heads-up. Usually I reject changes to code that are more than fixing a typo. I don't remember what I was thinking in this case. I'll be more careful next time.
 
no worries :)
 
7:56 PM
Talking about edit reviews... Two people accepted one inserting invalid Markdown syntax: stackoverflow.com/posts/52992689/revisions
 
bah
 
Sam
8:29 PM
Anyone lurking?
 
nope
 
I think that ^^^ means yes.
 
Sam
I'm tending toward the same conclusion
 
I lurk on Imgur as well, if that wasn't already apparent.
 
8:35 PM
@AnderBiguri apparently a Brexit agreement has been reached; now we wait on the morrow for Westminster to shoot it down
 
Sam
I have a general stats question, not sure if anyone can help: I have a dataset which consists of two groups x and y. The groups are separated if they have some characteristic of interest or not.
I've plotted a histogram which looks at the distribution of these two groups just as an explanatory task but the distributions are completely different. The group x is what I'd expect to see and group y is quite volatile. Group x make up ~90% of the x,y population so I'm hypothesising that group x shows the true distribution and if the y population was similar in side then it would tend to the same distribution.
I'm not sure if this is dumb or not... and i'm unsure if there is a way to statistically test such a hypothesis
@Adriaan Ah I heard that on the radio earlier
 
@Sam speaking about hearing things on the Radio...
 
Sam
lol
 
damn I haven't heard the scissor sisters in a longg time
 
I found it in my 'Random music for Audiosurf' folder last week Lo
 
Sam
8:43 PM
@ballBreaker Out of choice
 
Been digging it since
 
hahahaha
What's that song by them that was popular?
Don't feel like dancin' dancin'!
 
Sam
exactly that one
 
hahahah
 
@Sam Can you model the PDF? If not, you need a parametric method to compare distributions, something like Kolmogorov-Smirnov. I don't know how small number of samples factors in there, should be OK.
 
Sam
8:49 PM
What would such a model look like for the PDF?
 
@CrisLuengo Smirnoff is a vodka brand right?
 
Sam
it is
kolmogorov-loves-smirnov
 
And Kolmogorov the one of the scale at which viscosity turns into heat?
 
Right, warm vodka, that is the statistical test I'm talking about. :D
 
Sam
I've used the KS-stat to show how a binary model discriminates between classes
 
8:55 PM
Sorry for ruining your scientific discussion, I'll run off now again
 
@Sam I don't know, that depends on your data. For example, is it normally distributed? If yes, you have a model!
 
Sam
I'm not sure what you mean by "model the pdf"
 
If you can write an equation that describes the PDF, then you have a model. There are tests you can do to see how likely it is that data matches that model. And you can fit the parameters of the model to your data (e.g. mean and variance).
I guess I mean "mathematical model".
 
Sam
Ah I think I follow. I model the PDF.. and if a test shows that data from both x and y sets fit the model, then i can infer that they belong to the same distribution?
 
9:34 PM
@Sam Indeed. If they fit the model with the same parameters.
 
Sam
OK that seems a good approach, thanks
Mathematical model != statistical model?
 
statistical model ⊂ mathematical model
 
Humm... I'm not used to these terms... Ah, Wikipedia: "A statistical model is a mathematical model that..."
(or more concisely written as Andras does with mathematical operators)
 
Sam
great, thanks both
 
@AnderBiguri fire away!
 
 
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11:50 PM
If your question is about finding the center of a triangle, good luck.
 

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