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5:16 AM
@Botler shutdown command do reboot, not actually shutdown?
@Botler just by string filter?
theres many way to bypass that
!~>System.Diagnostics.Process.Start("shutdown","/s /t 0");
-!!>Request failed.
 
6:02 AM
Good moaning
 
 
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7:13 AM
meanwhile, I simply dont have any filter
I just have an environment that is completely isolated
the advantage is that I can shove in another runtime and it would work for another language
 
didnt you uses aws?
 
7:28 AM
I do use AWS
 
7:42 AM
mornING
 
[Squirrel in Training] GoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOd Mornin' neglecterinos!
 
on the bright side, we might actually want to do the same setup at work now
we are looking for some king of scripting functionality, allowing our (advanced) users to be able to configure stuff
and we might just go with the same isolated scripting environments that I used for Wietbot, which provide the users with one of the common programming languages while retaining a safe environment
 
 
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9:02 AM
@Wietlol Docker?
 
meh, just use AWS Lambda containers
much simpler
 
The idea is the same, I guess - containarization
 
Docker = "here are tools so you can build your own environment"
AWS Lambda = "we pick one standard that everyone will use"
but yea, containerized
I wouldnt be surprised Lambda uses Docker behind the scenes
 
Ansible = "we're all above you guys"
lmao
 
9:07 AM
I would choose Lambda over Docker every day
for as long as I can, I will stay away from Docker regardless of the alternative actually
 
I heard podman just went 1.0 anyway, time to ditch docker for good
 
podman?
 
Interesting... What are your problems with Docker?
 
just too much hassle
 
Meaning?
 
9:09 AM
and very poor guides for the strictness of stupid things
its so much easier to just write code that works everywhere instead of changing every environment to be the same
 
Beside the obvious almost monopoly, it's not open and docker could restrict docker hub limits even further at any time they choose.
 
Docker is not open source? D:
 
@Darj just figuring out how to use docker is a pain
you need a 3 year course to get the gist of it
 
I'm just trying to understand others' people problems with Docker. I'm using Docker for couple of years already, started from scratch and don't have any problems whatsoever
 
especially as a non-linux, non-cli kind of person, to me, its just torture
 
9:12 AM
I see, now I understand
 
on top of which, the tools broke windows for a long period of time
 
On Windows, when I'm working with Docker I'm using only Docker desktop
well, plus git cli but that's for svc
 
and even now, just trying to compose and run a simple docker container on a windows machine is just annoying as hell
 
Why is that?
Is the compose file having a lot of related containers?
 
last time I had to use it, I needed a docker container to build my project with runtime optimization for linux machines
for whatever stupid reason you need to build it on a linux machine in the first place baffles me
 
9:14 AM
Yes, Docker DOES NOT work like a virtual machine
 
but regardless, its not "just build and run it"
 
back to win7 l use sandboxies
 
I remember reading about some problems people were having when trying to spin up some linux containers on Windows
 
eventually, it turned out I didnt even need to run it
 
I mean, I usually just go right click -> create docker file and visual studio populates a template for me, maybe add some files myself the template doesn't know, and it just works. Would still be nice to have a solution not owned by a single copmany.
 
9:15 AM
l even use it to bypass online game's anti cheat program
 
and the same goes other way around, but that's just the nature of containers vs virtual machine
 
building actually already uses the runtime I needed, so my Dockerfile actually does the build of my project :D
 
For me Docker helps when I'm checking out new stuff, i.e. RabbitMQ
There's no need for me to install the whole thing + related libraries
Just pull the image, forward ports and done - 5 minutes work
 
it also didnt help that I didnt know exactly what libraries I needed
 
Right, but that's your fault, not Docker's lol
 
9:18 AM
I still think its C's fault
 
I think Docker can shine when scalability is needed
Things like CDNs for instance
 
why cant I just build a C program on a windows machine to run on a linux machine
 
@Wietlol It's always C's fault... segfault...
Because you might be running a compiler tailored to Windows'
 
I mean, the generated executable file bytes should be the same after each build, why is the correct output somehow impossible to get for a windows machine?
 
Windows' kernel =/= Linux's kernel
 
9:20 AM
it doesnt matter
 
Ultimatelly compiler would use kernel features when needed.
 
when I build my "hello world" program, I expect the executable to be a pre-defined sequence of bytes
 
I don't.
 
the output would differ if I build it for windows or linux, but I should be able to generate both on one machine
 
The executable might call internal system functions that are implemented differently in different systems
 
9:21 AM
Wait do you really need a linux machine to build linux executables?
 
Do you really need? I don't think so.
Should you? Yes, imho.
 
but that only matters for the target runtime, not the build runtime
 
I'm in favor of native compiling
 
@Darj Well that's not very nice of your
 
That's fine
Those are just my preferences, based on previous experiences
 
9:22 AM
@Darj so if I want a windows desktop application, built in CI, should I need a build server using the Windows runtime?
its just stupid
 
Should you need? No. Should you be able to do that? Yes.
 
I can't believe I'm saying this but Wietlol really is right here, that's stupid.
 
the silly thing is, the tools I use support cross compilation
 
There's no right or wrong here.
One should be able to build multiplatform binaries on every OS.
 
but at some point, curl barges in and breaks everything
 
9:24 AM
ah, curl... the new wget
 
new wget?
 
Yes, I was using wget before I got to know curl
 
I mean curl as library
 
The use case was just downloading files.
 
not the command line tool
 
9:25 AM
What do you need the curl library for?
Im curious
 
to do http requests
in C
 
Good Lord, I see
I C
lol
 
basically, I wanted to try Kotlin Native, but in order for me to use the HttpClient, I need to add the curl library if I want to build for linux target runtime
the kotlinc (compiler) allows me to do cross compilation
but curl... sigh distributes the FLERKEN SOURCE CODE AND EXPECTS YOU TO COMPILE IT YOUR FLERKEN SELF!!!111ONEONEONE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
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BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
 
9:30 AM
CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
OFFEEEEEE !
 
I ran out of coffee
 
noooooooo
 
I never drink coffee
 
noooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
 
9:31 AM
belive it or not I drank my first coffee at 25
cola used to do it for a long time
until it didnt work anymore :(
 
I just drink soup
 
PHO, let's go
 
pho?
Physician Hospital Organization?
 
10:15 AM
u f pho?
 
[milleniumbug] both wget and curl are from like, 1996
 
lm hungry after searching for pho on google
 
mr5
10:44 AM
I don't have an internet at home🥲🥲🥲
@nyconing pho is expensive here
 
 
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12:45 PM
Good Pho is expensive everywhere
5.5euro/$6 per bowl
But totally worth it
 
nothing beats pizza though
;)
but it looks delicious
 
Ah, Hans
Finally got my hands on coffee
\o\
/o/
 
yay
 
\o\
 
\o
 
1:00 PM
o/
 
 
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4:21 PM
posted on June 06, 2023 by Ayca Bas

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8:22 PM
posted on June 06, 2023 by Tim Heuer

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