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4 hours is way to long without someone saying something
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07:37
posted on September 03, 2012 by Haacked

If you look hard enough at our industry (really at all industries), you’ll find many implicit quotas in play. For example, some companies demand a minimum set of hours worked per week. This reminds me of an apocryphal story of the “know where man”. Here’s one variant of this famous legend as described on snopes: Nikola Tesla visited Henry Ford at his factory, which was having some kind o

07:47
hello steve....gud mrng....:)
oddly the room is empty today....:/
08:14
hi every1
08:42
I said
HI EVERYONE
08:59
anyone here formiliar enough with c# XNA to tell me if its possible to make some sort of switch statement for keys?
or a foreach loop
define keys?
        if (Keyboard.GetState().IsKeyDown(Keys.W))
        {
        }
it seems overly excess to have to make a if statement for each one
excessive*
thanks ill have a look at it
seems that Keys is an enum
so it's weird that GetPressedKeys returns an array and not an enum that's just added (flagsattribute)
09:08
I would guess it's easier to loop through an array of pressed keys than it would be to test each and every single key against the bit array
Not just that, but [Flags] enums rely on a single bit per flag
In an int-backed enum, you only have 32 such bits
Don't see a difference actually. And for the array you need to do .Contains, and for a flags one you do the operand thingy
true
So you would be able to represent only 32 keys
Not 32 pressed keys, just 32 keys
long would get you 64 keys, but there are over 100 keys on a keyboard
So you'd need a datatype with over 100 bits to be able to represent all the keys
makes sense :)
BigINteger? :P
for those chinese keyboards with 4000 buttons xD
Haha, an array seems fine
 
2 hours later…
11:13
meep
can some1 pls help me with single file and multifile assembly
wats diff
nybody der
11:44
Good morning.
@ShilpaGurnani what's the issue?
single file = 1 exe. Multiple = 1 exe and some dlls?
currently m trying to find out different types of assemblies 1. private 2.shared/public 3.satellite 4.dynamic 5. static
then i got a another concept of single file and multifile which i didnt get wat it is thts wat my asking
I have never heard of assembly types other than a library and executable in .NET
@RoelvanUden 1. private is used within single application and stored in its directory itself
2. shared is stored in gac
3. satellite hav language specific culture resources
dynamic is pe created at runtime n static is pe created at compile time
12:07
Hi all =)
hi all
Good morning @AmberArroway.
how are we today =)
@shilpaGurnani still fighting with assemblies
Has anyone awake ever used something like "CRC Cards?"
12:10
@dennis yes i wont leave till m not aware of nitty n gritty of it :P
ok thats good keep up that attitude
I'm trying to crank out my homework so I can enjoy my vacation - but I've never heard the phrase "design pattern" applied to CRC cards and flow charts.
Design Pattern is everywhere. Damn users trying to complicate our lives..
Yea... I'm not really grocking what this phrase is supposed to mean. Is it just "Lay out your objects and key methods?"
I don't know much of design patterns so I'm just shooting in the dark.
12:20
Alright. How about a Brazilian cultural question?

My father-in-law, who is from SP, is coming with on vacation. He wanted to share hotel rooms and a cabin on the cruise. Is that a reasonable thing, or is he insane?
._. What does that have to do with culture ?
Because, from my perspective, it's borderline gross to want to sleep in the same room as your daughter and her husband. He and my wife insist it's common for "people around the world, only in America is this weird."
Well it is quite normal actually. When I go to the beach all my family sleeps in the same room.
How does vacation sexy time get accomplished?
12:24
Well, my parents just tell everyone to leave the shit out of the house.
But hey, thanks for clearing it up for me.
But they are in their 50ies..
Oh man, that seems so awkward.
._. It isn't awkward, if I want to have a fun time with my girlfriend in the house, I just slip 50 bucks to whomever is on the house to leave for some hours.
Sex is quite normal, everybody does it. At least should.
"Hey, I plan on performing about 50 acts of pervision with your daughter. You wanna go get a Starbucks or something?"
12:26
That is not awkward, that is rude. .-.
yeah, starbucks is way to cheap :p
Sorry @AndréSilva, I don't know what the ettiqute for asking my father-in-law to leave so I can have sex with his daughter is.
What I usually do is to tell them I need privacy because of some things that it is needed to discuss. If he says it is not possible, then grab the car and leave. ._.
anyway I wouldn't share a cabin like that
Thanks @DavidDV, I was beginning to think I was caught up in some weird US puritanical trap.
12:29
I just like my privacy
Word.
anyway lol about "weird US puritanical trap."
There are a lot of weird hangups in this country. Everyone's familure with the "Violence is ok, boobies are vessels of evil" thing from movies.
yeah the nipple thing is funny :)
Heh, when I went to Holland they had a channel at night that advertised prostitutes. The faces on the folks back home when I told them about it was priceless.
12:36
Yeah, I don't see the problem with prostitutes
but I guess its mostly illegal in the US
i see food for thought is scarce here...
Yea. Prostitutes are fine in theory... I think the reason it stays illegal here is mostly because of pimps and 'gansta' culture. If someone wants to sell sex, and someone else is willing to pay for it, go for it. If someone wants to force someone else to sell sex, well... that's less cool.
chewing on junk food....aye...:D
I lost the metaphore, @Samy000rathore.
Anyway, crazy conservative stuff gives us a lot of good comedy like daily show and colbert report :)
12:43
dunno let it bother you...carry on..
Huh, I didnt realize those guys had any traction outside the US. That's good, I'd hate for Fox/CNN to be our only news embasitors to the outside world.
13:28
hi
hey ppl
hey hey
now here's a logical puzzle m working on , wherein there is a Complex type Request , Now this Request may have multiple recipients which i want to store it as , Request Type , which has request details , and recipients which will be a list of recipient columns
that is
from DB we get 2 records for one request (if we have 2 recipients) , but in ui layer , i want to use it as 1 record for the request , which contains a list of recipient details
I've a problem with a sql statement (a text string) passed to a SqlCommand object in VB.NET. The date format in my C# code is not the same as the format used on the SQL server and therefore I get an error when I submit the query. Anyone who know how I control the date format?
Problem started when I added ELMAH to my WCF. Before ELMAH everything was working fine. It seems that ELMAH has messed with the date format :-/
@SteffenJørgensen your variable is datetime right? then you just call variable.ToString("xxxx") where xxxx is the date format you want, you can google it as there are a lot of options
13:39
@SteffenJørgensen - dude u can try to use it formatting the date
@SteffenJørgensen - but it seems highly unlikely that elmah will touch it , did u have and updates installed
That works - but it just seems like the wrong way to do it. There must be a way to handle it in a generic way?
which may have changed the default date format
Pretty sure that it started when I added ELMAH. I tried grabbing the version before ELMAH from subversion and that runs fine.
@SteffenJørgensen who is that directed towards? me? Nah thats the legit way to handle it
@Steve Sorry for not directing the answer :-) It just seems wrong to me. It must be possible to control how the .ToString() returns the date. I've tried messing with the Culture with no luck.
13:42
oh, yes it is possible
like u is the universal format
just look up the reference
and then you can use MM mm YYYY dd, etc..
but like dave dv suggested, google it to figure out what you want exactly
@DavidDV The reference on what?
On DateTime.ToString?
Or CultureInfo
the reference of it offcourse :)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.datetime.tostring.aspx
where did all the stars go? --------------->
oh nvm, just had to refresh
13:46
@Steve - dude any idea about my problem ?
All right guys - thanks for you input!
Hey everyone :) 6 hours of pluralsight videos and I actually feel like I've learned a lot! Think I'll finish watching the MVC videos then get a 200 minute trial and burn that up, then actually subscribe :P
I'll give the reference another go :-)
@bhuvin what was your problem?
now here's a logical puzzle m working on , wherein there is a Complex type Request , Now this Request may have multiple recipients which i want to store it as , Request Type , which has request details , and recipients which will be a list of recipient columns
that is
from DB we get 2 records for one request (if we have 2 recipients) , but in ui layer , i want to use it as 1 record for the request , which contains a list of recipient details
linq is the way to go , on the dataset
but forulating that is what is the issue
13:48
nope i'm clueless
anybody else ?
@bhuvin Sorry m8...got nothing
.Distinct()
Or Take(1);
grixx +1, i couldn't even understand what he was asking, let alone give an answer haha
Or .FirstOrDefault
I've literally watched 6 hours of programming videos and have probably retained 30 minutes so I'm making progress :P
13:53
good job :)
it lets you watch for free?
@Steve are we some sorry slack ass grunts or what? Day off and we are in a C# chat room...
@Grixxly lmao yeah
The MVC ones are free and they have a 200 minute free trial
i just started chapter 7
btw
Let me know how it goes... by the middle of 8 I started to connect the dots
13:55
will do :)
though after watching these videos I don't know if I like the idea of a project.domain and project.WebUI. I'm starting to think it just causes a layer of confusion
is the project.domain the model?
And for full disclosure I did chapters 7-9 three times before I felt confident. And most the time I feel still lost
Yup
It seems the author is adding a layer of abstraction that is actually adding a layer of confusion
yeah, the reason they put the model in a separate project is because when you have realllllllly huge applications its necessary to split it up like that
but for the program in 7-9, you don't NEED to, they were just showing you how it works, but it should be the same idea
@Grixxly yeah thats possible
Maybe I need a really big project then. I went to nerddinner but all that did was confuse me. I need a tutorial that is a beast
13:59
i think since you're just learning to program you picked a pretty rough book to start on lol
but we do that with webforms, put the components and classes in a separate project, and the web stuff in a separate project
I know how to program, just not .net or C#. Give me a mainframe and COBOL and stand back! :P
at work
oh lol, old school!
good morning @kendallfrey
Has anyone here done the mvcmusicstore.codeplex.com tutorial? I want to find a MVC tutorial that is an absolute beast
not i
14:05
Thank you, computer, for putting me in a bad mood to celebrate Labour Day.
bad mood... I hated win 8 so much I snapped the dvd in half just to feel better :P
Honestly?
yeah. I downloaded the iso from technet so it cost me a total of 50 cents ;]
windows 8 can go to hell
That would be too good for win 8
I see win 8 as being more embarrassing then windows me or vista... IT'S THAT BAD
14:08
yeah me too\
i have no idea what they were thinking
This morning I was all ready to do a little messing around with LyX. My computer wouldn't start, so after running Startup Repair for 'several minutes', I finally started it up. I went to open LyX, and... gone. Thanks, Microsoft, for uninstalling programs without warning.
They weren't. I'm thinking it was thought up in a hash bar in Bangkok
wow...
:(
My virtual box holding my sql server 2008 r2 database blew up and after about 12 reboots all of sudden started working again. So I was getting it by MS AND ORACLE... feel a little sore in the backside
What's the hate with win 8?
14:11
IT IS HORRIBLE!
It's an ugly chick that no matter how much you drink you would never do
have you tried it lews?
oh, there isn't a start button anymore, you click on the lower left hand of the screen and a full screen tile window comes up, its so ugly, i don't remember all the things i hated about it because i haven't used it in a while
but i drove me crazy, not intuitive at all
14:16
^
No start button? There was in Dev preview.
intuitive and win 8 have nothing to do with each other
i used beta and you had to click the lower left corner of the screen
i think i remember reading an article which said something about getting taskbar in Windows 8
but they might have changed it since it was beta
14:17
Apple II's were more intuitive
I remember doing a HCI course and one of the things that came up was why do we need a start button?
I'm running Win8 RTM on the laptop next ot me. What do you want to know?
Windows 8 is great on a laptop
...with touch
yea
Win8 is great...with touch.
And if you're a power keyboard user like myself, you're screwed... sideways
14:18
lol
yeah
Dunno about that. I can get along well enough without using the touchpad, Grix.
you like it? to each their own i guess
I never said that.
I don't hardly use a mouse, only when I have to. In fact I'm still pissed they got rid of alt-f9 to minimize windows
14:20
Win+Down
DON'T CARE! THEY SHOULD HAVE LEFT ALT-F9 ALONE!!! MOAR RAGE!!!! :p
lol
i kind of want taco bell for breakfast, do you think they're open on labor day
not til 10 I think
Bad Steve. Bad!
14:22
That guy never did say if my answer(s) were correct. And I think they were....
@KendallFrey Now that was funny!
lol :p
here...i had to go through a few unread notes for u guys
how-to-get-the-classic-start-menu-back-in-windows-8
i did'nt got to use windows 8 yet...:/
oh
lolno.

Option 4: man up.
I'm going to use the I'm-not-going-to-install-win-8 option
14:25
It's not hard to use, it's just different. If you're going to cower every time the UI changes, you're welcome to reinstall win95.
i downloaded a mod that looked really nice for the start bar
i wish i remember what it was called
lol, i would have tried it myself...
if i could have....that is
@Grixxly
win 95? I'm still using 3.1 :P
my first computer was windows 3.1 ... i got it just so i could look at porn and it didn't have any image viewing software on it, i was sad to say the least
14:29
On multiple levels.
hey! i was 12, what 12 year old isn't a horn dog
I can't remember which I got first... a VIC 20, TRS 80 or C64
@Steve later bloomer huh? :P
lol
I was the only American with an Amega. I didn't really take to it. Eventually I got a win95 box.
First mainframe I ever touched was a HP 20 and my jeep probably has more processing power lol
14:32
hah
I read somewhere that today's watches have more processing power than the Apollo lander
That is a true fact of science.
Anyone else ever take a crap that afterwards you felt like you committed a crime against humanity? Or is that just me?
lmfao
14:47
nice
@E.LDunn 0/
hello there mr grix
I'm getting dangerous. I'm actually starting to feel like I know what I'm doing :)
Don't worry, that feeling will go away.
haha
14:55
I know :(
home time sweeet!
And @E.LDunn why do you always say "mr grix"? I'm not that old :P
You know COBOL. You are old.
lol... fair enough
I'm thinking of creating a COBOL chat room... wonder if all the people there could be walkons to the show the walking dead?
15:14
I was thinking the Nazis at the end of Indiana Jones.
15:26
Kyle does not comment his code. Shame on Kyle.
If you know english, you practically know COBOL.
Someone posted an image yesterday, I think, something like thousands of lines of code no comments, merry chrismas and happy bus accident
I'm about seven files into this, and I don't see a single "//"
@KyleTrauberman Comment your code!
Okay, now that I've taken a look at that, I guess I can work on my real job.
15:57
any1 :? heLLO ?
@Billdr Self Commenting Code is Self Commenting!
Yep, and if I knew exactly what you were doing every step of the way I'd write my own.
Fair enough.
I'll add green text
16:20
COBOL - Crap Old Bad Obsolete Language :-)
I need a uniform grid with headings
Because mine is the failz
<DockPanel>
    <UtilControls:Numbering Margin="0,25,0,0" StartNumber="{Binding ElementName=root, Path=StartDay}" EndNumber="{Binding ElementName=root, Path=EndDay}" Visibility="{Binding DisplayAxes, Converter={StaticResource BooleanToVisibilityConverter}, ElementName=root}" VerticalAlignment="Top" Height="{Binding Height, ElementName=timetableGrid}" />
    <UtilControls:Numbering DockPanel.Dock="Top" ControlOrientation="Horizontal" EndNumber="{Binding ElementName=root, Path=Periods}" StartNumber="1" NumberingMode="Numbers" Height="25"  Visibility="{Binding DisplayAxes, Converter={StaticRes
(see full text)
16:40
Woot, I'm not completely retarded!
I didn't realise that C# has preprocessor directives
17:00
hello everyone
why isn't my gravatar changing :S
also, Got my first Azure site working
GJ on the Azure site. The gravatar thing took ~3 hours for me. It says it can take 24/48.
@Billdr get latest on the leaderboard
added green text for you
Kyle, you're my favorite.
mostly in StarRequest.cs
the rest is mostly self-explanatory
but if you have a question, ping me
So I'm able to hook up to the tfs server with codeplex creds?
is that how it works?
17:04
yeah, you should be able to get read permissions
Alright, I'll have to make an account
im back
I'm about to go shower and get ready for holiday stuff.
17:10
oh man! we have a shared project?
where is the deployed site? I saw it long ago. I wanna see the progress
hasn't been updated in a few days
I need to make some changes to the scraping routine
oh it is an azure site :O nice
btw, do you know how to just upload an html page to azure?
my g/f wants me to make her a geocities-like site
ill just use webmatrix I guess
17:17
I wish there was one included in azure
@Billdr I tried twice and it didn't change :/
^ me and my son
got family photos done yesterday
daww
cute eyes :3
17:38
Should I jailbreak my Ipad?
@KyleTrauberman Wtf is wrong with your sons hair? My niece has almost 3 years old and has 10% of your sons hair..
So much hair..
he was born with 75% of that
hes 6 mo old
Born with 9 months ?
17:57
I mean... did your gf/wife had a 9month pregnancy? Because my niece was born with 8 months.
oh yeah, full term
she has horrible heart burn though
old wives tale says the more heart burn, the more hair
and boy was that true
18:30
my friend linked me to a mix video of 4 hours of dubstep drops
Oh god I love visual studio
Nowadays it started messing Dutch and English through eachother in warnings. i.imgur.com/nnIsy.png
:P
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