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2:00 PM
My personal choice would be to fix the schema, but because of the shear amount of undocumented code here, I have no idea that if I did that it wouldn't break an application somewhere
Anyways, all reasons for resigning lol
I'll have to dig up my last personal project, but it was written in PHP lol
the truly BEST language out there...
 
Is it crazy how saying sentences backwards creates backwards sentences saying how crazy it is?
 
What the fuck was I thinking doing it in PHP? lol
@Neil lmao
 
When I interviewed for my current job I did a demo porject in PHP
 
@CaptainObvious Im guessing it was successful then
What did you have to make?
 
Yes, but then I have worked soley in .net languages since
They sent a sample CSV which had sample order data and it have to be able to do various searches on it, but it had a few gotchas
 
2:03 PM
@CaptainObvious Same, never going back to PHP, especially now .NEt has gone cross platform
 
PHP could be a lot better, but joking aside, it's not that bad
still, not my preferred language by a large margin
 
This was over 5 years ago now
 
@Neil NAh it's ok, just I never found a decent IDE for it
 
When .net core wasn't even a (public) idea
 
lol same, stopped using it when I got this job
 
2:04 PM
If you like Rider (which means you're wrong) then there's a PhpStorm I think
Which is basically the same
 
never heard of it, Visual Studio COmmunity all the way
 
VS Proooo
 
before then I was using Notepad++
My boss wouldn't PAY for something you can have that's FREE, then he wonders why debugging and testing takes so long
 
mr5
@DAustin right. This reminds me of a guy from my previous job that structures his code very poorly. In one of our project, I have communicated with him most of the time, and every time I look on his PC or check his code, I always want to change something but I don't want to be rude. Maybe I did ask him to change ~30% of his code, he argue with me but decided to change it finally. He's very cool but I don't want to look like a douche.
 
2:06 PM
It's free... Unless you make mad dolla
 
@CaptainObvious :'( I envy you
Wait wha?
Pro is free?
 
@DAustin Oh I've been there..
 
no Community
 
We had this very elaborate very costly framework made that we were dependent on for years.. We found this very serious bug, but we were no longer paying the yearly fee to get support from them
 
mr5
I'm still not sure how would you weigh the code over friendship (I can't communicate properly so I limit my talking to avoid to offend him)
 
2:07 PM
oh yeah, dunno what number mad dolla is though so ill just pretend we're still under the threshold
 
Pro is relatively cheap thougha ctually
 
But I found a possible solution if we used a program to reverse engineer the code.. It cost 50 euros.... In light of the constant complaints of our clients, he still said no..
 
@Neil Jesus
 
I know right?
 
I like VSCode more the more I use it.
 
2:08 PM
his response was "Just do your job"
 
I mean i can understand the relucatnce to spend 5K on desktops, 10K on some servers + whatever the new software costs are, its a big decision, but 50 euroes, what a joke
 
I switched jobs not long after that..
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Haven't tried it, is it just for front end stuff?
 
@CaptainObvious Community is pretty much feature-equivalent to Pro, but licensed so that you can't use it in most professional settings.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Ah, they don't care about licensing here
 
2:09 PM
Which is basically why we have it
 
@DAustin I use it for low level network infrastructure in C++, so...
 
they do the bare minimum
 
Tbh the only feature I want but don't have is Xamarin profiling, which is (for some reason) limited to enterprise users only
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Fair enough, I though it's just a text editor type thing
 
@DAustin Unlike VS, the mindset is "have a fast, easy-to-use text editor as the core, and everything else is a plugin", which means you can use it as your main text editor (it loads fast) and another instance doing C++ debugging and it's all good.
 
mr5
2:11 PM
@CaptainObvious how about native IDEs' profiler counter part?
 
@CaptainObvious I interviewed at a place recently that did mobile app dev, asked if they used Xamarin but they said they'd switched from that to Android Studio, apparently Xamarin was pretty bad at optimising the compiled code
So they claimed anyways, I don't do mobile apps so im clueless
 
I quite like xamarin. It's just that my app has a memory leak(s) but I don't know where, and I can't profile it to find out where
 
Oh fun!
 
VSCode is very extensible and has language services for pretty much anything you might care to use it for. Microsoft provide 1st-party plugins for C#, C++, TypeScript and web stuff and a couple more. But I've used it for scala, python, c++ (with a custom plugin for language services and compiler, not the default MS plugins), editing CSVs and XML and JSON and whatnot.
 
So it's basically just to the point where it is restarted regularly
 
2:13 PM
@CaptainObvious A few of our automated services would need restarting every few days, eventually i tracked it down to SQL connections being opened but not closed, so after 3 days they'd saturate the SQL server lol
But I only spotted from the SQL server side through it's diagnostics, not Visual Studio
 
@CaptainObvious About 20 years ago I started a new job (technically, I was drafted for military service, but I served as as IT and then developer) and the first job they gave new recruits was to go over our server room and map out every mismatched piece of hardware lying on the shelves (we had good, solid rack-mounted servers, but not only them).
 
Hey I had that issue too
Except it needed restarting every 2 hours
 
@CaptainObvious Ouch.
 
We found an old 286 IBM PC-AT (original!) which was about 15 years old even then, connected to the network, without a monitor or keyboard, and no-one could tell what it was there for.
So we shut itdown.
 
Nukes then launched?
 
2:14 PM
uhoh
 
Turns out it ran a single scheduled service, every night, to kill a different service in a different machine that needed to be reset.
3
So yeah, restarting your mobile app every couple of hours isn't the end ofthe world :)
 
mr5
in Android, the memory leaks can be seen on logcat (native logger) sometimes. Also, the memory footprint can be viewed on AS (native IDE) even your app is built on different language as long as it is debuggable. While in Xamarin.iOS, you will have a hard time cuz XCode (native IDE) doesn't support attaching a debuggable app to debugger afaik and the only way to diagnose more is when it crashed.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Have a star for that, love it xD
Gotta love undocumented stuff, it's where the mad stuff is
Thanks for chatting guys, has lowered my stress levels quite a bit :)
 
These days my services are quite stable and can run for a long time
 
@DAustin Especially in a place like the army here, where most people are only there for 6 years (3 years of mandatory service, and those who get picked up for software developer training need to sign up for 3 more). When personnel are constantly in flux, a lot of knowledge gets lost.
 
2:18 PM
Just checked on one which currently has an uptime of
 
PHOTOSHOP! ;)
nicely done sire
Will be back in 10, just going on break
 
mr5
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I can imagine you doing some code inside a bunker while your fellow colleagues are outside firing their weapons and shouting (hey avni, is the code finish yet? we're dying here!)
 
Yeah, "military" sounds very different to people who haven't been. :)
90% of what the army does isn't actually in or around combat.
Especially badly managed armies like ours, where mandatory draft means that you get thousands of 18 years olds every year for 3 years and you have to give them something to do even if you don't really need them, but when salaries are practically free, you find something for them to do.
 
mr5
that's the hard part.
clean this whole room using toothbrush and your saliva
2
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Hadrian's wall afterall, right?
army was getting restless, so he just made them build a wall across england
 
2:26 PM
Or, more likely, "this is the administrative office for this unit. Recruit #1 - you're in charge of handling Form 12-G when someone needs to requisition non-essential equipment. Recruit #2 - you're in charge of handling Form 12-H for requisitioning essential equipment. Recruit #3 - you're in charge of form 12-Q for requesting clarification if a certain piece of equipment is essential or not".
@Neil And that's when he had career military who were there of their own free will and a decent salary.
 
that's true
You can thank Napoleon for all that military bureaucracy
it's hard to believe that something like that actually had to be created, but he did it
 
Is that Israel Avner?
I've seen the photos of the conscripted ladies in uniform, gets me a bit hot under the collar lol
 
@DAustin Yup.
 
Phew, thought id gotten it wrong then lol
Here's a screenie of some of the lovely code I have to maintain btw...
Fuck Strong typing eh?
Such a good job no one here knows about SQLi
 
2:46 PM
At least it's on http://intranet
 
True, thankfully the last guy to do the website used Paramterised Queries
It's still shit, but at least the SQLi doesn't work
I rebuilt the website on .net Core 2.2 about 2 years ago, still waiting for management to get back to me with the changes
After all, who needs a restful api when we have our own bespoke SOAP service
By all means, let's have an FTP server on the inside of the corporate network for customers to dial into and upload files to place orders, no way that could ever go wrong
 
That's sadly common (the FTP order files thing)
 
@DAustin Ouch.
 
@CaptainObvious If it isn't broken....
I have a template email for dealing with a common gotcha with our stock feed
the gotcha being that an item that's made inactive, at potentially any time, will no longer appear on the feed, so you need to tell your dev to use an ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE query
 
ps5 UI finally got unveiled
 
2:53 PM
because 99% of our feeders only run updates, they don't actually check if an entry is missing
 
@Freerey Does it suck just like PS4?
 
@Hozuki lol
 
More than likely
 
idk I just started the video
ps4 is just ps3 with more pictures
 
I'm skipping this gen of consoles
gone back to PC gaming
 
2:54 PM
oh god you're one of those people who consumes their news by video
 
LTT all the way xD
 
uh yeah cause it's the official channel
oookay so it's kind of reversed from ps4....below has some icons, as opposed to above the main tiles
oh sorry.... "cards"
 
It's just PS4 interface re-skinned, yeh.
 
I made the mistake of going XBox One last gen
 
well no wonder you're skipping next gen
 
2:55 PM
Exactly
 
So far in my life I've had a 3rd gen console and a 7th gen console, so my next one should, I guess, be a 11th gen, so... around 2035?
 
wow, 5 launch titles!
 
I also got xb1 last year, but I knew what I was getting into lol
 
but seeing as Sony seems to be releasing exclusives on steam after a while, i dont see the point in going PS5 either
 
good thing ps5 has backcompat
 
2:56 PM
I will get a PS5 eventually, when they release a black version. Fuck that white piece of shit. I'll wait.
 
just 3d-print those little panels into black
 
@DAustin They don't, their first party developers don't release onto other platforms.
 
As long as FIFA 22+ works on Xbox One for a while I'll be good
 
holy shit
the ps5 has a 350w popwer supply
 
But, what about Death Stranding etc?
 
2:57 PM
@DAustin Aren't annual sports releases just basically updated player/team data on the same basic engine?
 
lol ther's osme kind of "game help" option
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Yep, typical EA tactic
 
It's also possible to just get a PS5 controller and stream the games on PS Now...
Once PS Now has them.
 
but me and a couple of friends play a bit of Pro Clubs, and FIFA on the pc platform is like a ghost town
 
microphone in the controller == big brain game design
not
 
2:59 PM
I've seen some PS fanboys froth at the mouth about first-party Sony content on PCs as if it's the end of the world, and they forget that exclusives are a marketing tactic to force consumer lock-in, and in no sane world is it good for the customer.
 
Did you catch that article their Hozuki?
there*
 
But if the only reason you have a PS is for the exclusives, and not, you know, because it's a good gaming and entertainment system, isn't that pretty much admitting that it's not a competitive product, as far as software and hardware design go?
 
MS and Nintendo have said they're not competing with sony lol
 
Exclusives are pretty much the only reason to go with a console over a PC, that and cost of course
 
I like consoles because you can insert a disc and games work. As opposed to always tinkering with settings on PC.
Doesn't matter which console tbh, but I like PS controllers and their games, so that's what I got.
 
3:01 PM
But seeing as a title on console that costs 60 is usually around 45 on pc, you'll end up paying the same cost over a longer period in the end
 
lol wellll the new ones also are gonna have settings to tinker with
 
@Hozuki True, it's why I went with the 360 for my first console since the N64
But PC is just better, thinks like G-Sync etc make a big difference for me
 
I don't like upgrading PC parts. I'm lazy. Just want to buy a game and insert it to play. No fuss.
It's more expensive in the long run, maybe. I don't care though.
 
mr5
do you guys play fall guys in PC or in on console?
 
TBh the pc market gfx wise has stagnated, i managed to run Alyx on my 1060 with High details and 90Hz refresh
 
3:03 PM
@Hozuki Exactly. The PS has plenty of features and advantages to recommend it - insert-and-play, controllers (if you prefer them over the Xbox controllers), Blu-ray media and audio-casting features. It's a good product. Focusing on exclusives downplays that.
 
@mr5 I got it on steam, seeing as it wasnt available on the xbox
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Yep! This very much. I don't really use media features though, but I can see them being important for some.
 
@Hozuki Ah paying for stuff you don't want, classic console ;)
 
@DAustin No, no, I pay to be hassle-free.
 
I've never really gotten used to controllers (except for the original NES), and usually prefer mouse-and-keyboard.
 
3:05 PM
lol nvm
 
mr5
@DAustin so PC? is steam also available in on consoles?
 
right, so it looks like a smart TV interface
 
mr5
Never had a console my entire life.
 
Most gaming sessions with my brother (both on PC cuz he doesn't have consoles) tend to end not playing games because either of our machines has issues.
 
what you can do is Miracast from Xbox One to your PC with STeam and play from there
 
3:05 PM
Yeh i got it on my rig, and use Remote Play to play it on my laptop upstairs with the xbox controller, works a charm
 
there's also an app called Rainway which lets you do the same kind of thing, but it's not officially supported
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Had the same, but found that most RPGs and third-person games work better with controllers. FPS and strategy are better on mouse+KB though.
 
@Freerey I'm confused as to the advantage of doing that?
 
@Hozuki Which RPGs? I played Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition recently and the thought of doing inventory management with a controller sounds really terrible
 
Weirdest part of going back to PC after being console for so long was the Keyboard Mouse, took a few days to get my mouse accuracy up to scratch
 
3:07 PM
And Skyrim's controller-friendly menus were physically painful until I installed a mod to improve it for mouse and keyboard control.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan I don't know about DA2, but Inquisition is fine. I play all my RPGs on PS4 nowadays and even inventory management is totally fine.
 
@DAustin mr5 asked lol
plus the advantage is you can play PC on your couch
 
My reasons for buying a console: Ease of use, cheaper to buy (initially, we'll ignore subscriptions to play online for now), better anti-cheat (if crossplay disabled), and larger communities for some crossplatform titles (e.g. Fifa)
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Sorry was in a meeting than had to rush off to pick of the kids and only just got back
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Currently have played on PS4... Dark Souls 1-3, Sekiro, Bloodborne, Nioh 1-2, Code Vein, Last of Us 1-2, Tombraider, Spider-man, Ni No Kuni 1-2, Divinity Original Sin 2, DA Inquisition, Witcher 3, Horizon Zero Dawn, Days Gone, Atelier Sophie, Tales of Series, Diablo 3, Nier Automata, God of War, Plague Tale, Assassins creed odyssey
 
3:10 PM
you wouldn't believe the weird cult of sony under the ps4
 
Dropping the kids of at the pool ;)
 
No issues on any inventory management system whatsoever.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan This actually sounds like a great idea
 
Oh, forgot Blue Reflection and Genshin Impact I currently play
 
mr5
@DAustin I've heard diablo 3 community on consoles are full of cheaters and modders ^^
 
3:11 PM
Thanks for your input!
 
mr5
you're welcome!
 
@Squirrelintraining You're welcome.
 
@mr5 Probably, I didn't claim there were no cheaters ;) Its just harder to cheat on the consoles than PC
 
@DAustin I don't play multiplayer, so half of these don't really apply to me anyway. And I rarely play recently released games either, so I don't need to tweak settings for optimal FPS either :)
 
^ Same here.
 
3:13 PM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Same with the latest titles, normally way too expensive, might as well wait a few months
its how i avoided getting No Mans Sky adn Sea of Thieves
 
mr5
nevertheless (omg I'm using this word), I like the idea of playing on the couch (never had my own couch in my entire life). Seems relaxing and fun.
 
@mr5 Absolutely, better for casual play
 
@mr5 Get a couch first bruh
 
HOLY SHIT
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan What one could also always do is a [Route("{minimalAmountOfPropsNeeded}/{propsToAppend}") like Http.Get("host/people/1&props=FirstName,LastName,BirthDate") if that would even work that way 😂😂
 
3:14 PM
just got an email from the director about upgrading the systems xD
 
The /1/ is the id of that entity --> the minmum amount of props needed
 
The recent game I've been playing is Civ6 (released 2016), and before that Dragon Age 2(2011), DA:Inquisition (2014) and Mass Effect: Andromeda (2017)
 
the weird subset of gamers people are only starting to talk about are the people who play stuff only from the 2000s
 
Shame i've already signed this resignation letter
 
@DAustin congrats; you're being stalked
 
3:15 PM
lol
latest game I've binged on was another play of Rome 2
Love me a bit of Total War
 
@Freerey i only play AoE II & PAcman
 
mr5
@Hozuki couch is not portable. I can't bring it with every apartment I'll be transferring to lol.
 
@Squirrelintraining is "host" and "people" two properties of the same entity?
 
@Squirrelintraining PLease tell me you do that on a RPi
 
omg....the new Crash game has that 2017 whoa meme in it
 
3:17 PM
ups its calling the host i.e. https://localhost
With the people controller
 
Latest game I've bought, and might start playing soon, maybe once the kids are out of the house if schools reopen, is Star Control: Origins (2018). New!
 
@DAustin No
 
Not heard of that, RTS?
 
We got a pub around the corner
 
anyone gonna get Cyberpunk2077 fr, though?
 
3:18 PM
@Squirrelintraining So you do have a people controller, meaning you have a people entity?
 
@Squirrelintraining Aww, I love RPis
@Freerey I'd wait for a few months after release for CyberPunk
 
you worried it's gonna be a Bethesda-tier glitchfest? :P
 
It smells of unobtainable expectations
Nah, another No Man's Sky / Sea of Thieves diasaster
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan yes, although I'd call it person but essentially it's the same
 
to me it just looks like a modern-day SYstem Shock
 
3:19 PM
They seem to be promising and hyping it a lot
 
const in c# can be used only for primitive types (int, double, float, string, etc)?
 
@DAustin MY RPI is my NAS and DHCP and "firewall" 😂
 
The moment you got CYberPunk themed gfx cards (which are now last gen, and the game still isnt out) I was out
 
PiHoooooole
 
@Squirrelintraining PiHole is awesome, just remember to not log to the SD card xD
killed mine after 2 months thanks to MS Outlook for Android...
Bought one of those Seeed Studio Odyssey's when it launched, fantastic general SBC
 
3:21 PM
@Squirrelintraining so no reason for an overly-complicated route like [Route("{minimalAmountOfPropsNeeded}/{propsToAppend}"). It should be part of the query string, not the route.
 
runs our Minecraft Server lol
 
The route should describe an path to an entity, not the fields that should be returned.
 
@DAustin 😂
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Can you not just Bind to a DTO?
 
I'm sure the guys who did Witcher can make Cyberpunk into something good -- especially if they've been working on it for this damn long x-x
If it does suck, I hope the company tanks tbh lol
 
3:22 PM
If I may recommend a game I've been playing, it's Satisfactory
 
That's a good game
 
It's like Factorio and Subnautica made a baby
 
@Freerey That's the problem, how do you work on a game for this long and expect it to live up to the expectations that carries, Duke Nukem Forever lol
 
oh yeahh..the one buy the goat sim guys
 
I don't quite follow.
Isn't that the query string?
I mean you pass parameters via the Route attribute after all
 
3:24 PM
@Squirrelintraining the route template you specified defines a path parameters. (like host/controller{identifier}), not query parameters.
brb - shower time for the excited youngling.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan What are you trying to do?
 
Satisfactory is still in early access, but it's already worth the money they ask for it (which by my standards is the only reason I'd ever buy an early access game)
 
@Neil YEah I've been seeing a lot of that game on Youtube etc recently, usually a good sign
 
some of you should get it, we could have a C# chatroom game :P
 
But then again I got Fall Guys because of Youtube lol so its not always true
@Neil I'll check it out :D
 
3:26 PM
it'll probably cost more when it's released, so consider also that
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan gl and hf :D
 
definitely look into it if that's your thing :)
Here's a trailer for ya:
 
Soo I'm guessing query parameter is something following the `?`
Damn I guess I gotta do some reading :_D
 
right, I probably didn't get it cause it's early access but sweet
 
Ill check it later mate, Im supposed to be working atm xD
 
3:28 PM
gotcha :)
 
@Freerey Aye, Stopped buying Early Access after I got DayZ standalone...
Euph, this email is banging on about a Gap Analysis
fucks sake
i wrote it 6 months ago
dunno why i bother lol
 
@Squirrelintraining Yeah just make a DTO to protect yourself against over posting
Or use the [FromBody] / [FromForm] to create a whitelist of properties that can be bound
 
Also, max properties that can be bound is 1024 by default, so if you're processing an Enumerable watch out for that
Data Transfer Object
Hold on
 
3:31 PM
6 hours ago, by Squirrel in training
Baisically, letting the user (front end) decide which properties he whishes to fetch from the backend instead of defning a riged object where all properties have to be defined in.
So you know what i was gettzing at earlier DAustin, and what I asked roels and avnis oppinion on
 
Yeh i missed the start of that
here check out this question i asked and answered the other day for an example
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Q: MVC Post Request - Max no. of objects in IEnumerable<T> binding?

DAustinI have an Controller Action as follows for posting Form Data (Just testing binding atm, comments left in to give you an idea of things I've tried): [HttpPost] //[RequestFormLimits(BufferBodyLengthLimit = 2097152000)] //[RequestSizeLimit(209715200)] public async Task<IActionResult> ProcessF([FromF...

 
@DAustin Havn't I heard that before with entities?
Or was that POCO?
 
DTOs are just POCOS, basically just a bunch of properties you want public getters and setters on
no methods etc normally
just a holder for a bunch of properties
very useful in Entity Framework queries for reducing data sent over the wire
 
Voted up your answer
 
thanks
heres the DTO mentioned in that question
 
3:34 PM
Np
 
public class FrotcomBillingPostDTO
{
public FrotcomBillingPostDTO() { }
public int CustomerId { get; set; }
public int FComCustomerId { get; set; }
public int FComSubscriptionId { get; set; }
public bool Active { get; set; }
public int ItemId { get; set; }
public decimal Tariff { get; set; }
}
 
Which baisically is a POCO
 
Note the empty constructor at the top, not required for a DTO but for some reason required for Model Binding in the controller
 
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Q: Plain Old CLR Object vs Data Transfer Object

Patrick PetersPOCO = Plain Old CLR (or better: Class) Object DTO = Data Transfer Object In this post there is a difference, but frankly most of the blogs I read describe POCO in the way DTO is defined: DTOs are simple data containers used for moving data between the layers of an application. Are POCO and DT...

@DAustin ctrl + k format :D
 
Yeh sorry lol
 public class FrotcomBillingPostDTO
{
    public FrotcomBillingPostDTO() { }
    public int CustomerId { get; set; }
    public int FComCustomerId { get; set; }
    public int FComSubscriptionId { get; set; }
    public bool Active { get; set; }
    public int ItemId { get; set; }
    public decimal Tariff { get; set; }
}
Once you get the Controller to bind properly its a walk in the park
Oh wow I just earnt the VOte Down privelege, lmao thanks Squirrel
 
3:37 PM
😂
np
I'm afk from chat for now
gotta do some hustling
 
Good luck
 
I'm afk from work
tired is me
 
Im afk for another break, havent typed this much all day lol
 
seein you cap
 
in a bit boy n girls
 
3:38 PM
have a nice day of work lee
 
what no
 
Seeing you asutin
 
as in
I'm not workming now
Go home ion half an hour anyway
 
I know
have a nice day off work
also still gotta send u thta moneyz
doing that now
 
I chased up your peanut butter before
 
3:42 PM
@CaptainObvious pardon?
> I don't understand mate
 
What do you mean with "chaes uop your peanungbutter"
 
Oh
Finding what was happening with it because the tracking hasn't done anything for a while
Also I looked at how you typ[ed that and legit had to check it wasn't me that made those typos
 
Ah
> "chaes uop your peanungbutter"
What
the fuqq
did i smoke today?
 
3:47 PM
Clearly
 
@Squirrelintraining Yeah. The general REST conventions, derived from HTTP conventions, are that the path is, well, the path to the entity. In classic HTTP, it would be the physical path to the file, but for REST systems, it's a logical path to an entity. http://server/person/1 is the unique, canonical path to Person #1, and it should always point to Person #1. http://server/person, with no ID, should return the lost of all Persons. These should be fixed, unchanging paths that serve as identifiers.
Anything after the ? is query parameters, which are, as their name suggests, parameters for queries. So http://server/person?name=squirrel should return all Persons whose name is "squirrel". The precise meaning here (what field does "name" map to? is it a precise search? prefix? substring? case sensitive?) is up to your app, but that's the convention.
 
@skullpatrol The joke I make to my wife is that Italians are so incredibly supportive of Ireland, since you see so many Italian flags that have faded with time
 
But you can use query parameters with specific entities as well. http://server/person/1?fields=name, job, favoritePotato would be an idiomatic way to tell a REST app to return Person #1, but to specify that the fields to return are name, job and the ever-popular favoritePotato.
 
> favoritePotato
Cracked me up
 
@Neil A joke I've made is that Israel should be more supportive of Ireland because it serves as a buffer between Israel and Iran.
 
3:56 PM
I think you should ban anyone who's favoritePotato is SweetPotato
 
Alphabetically accurate
 
Anyway it's hometime, bye bois
 
@CaptainObvious G'night.
Also, the term "hometime" has entirely lost its meaning to me these last six months or so.
Six? Seven already.
 
@CaptainObvious #leeforpresident
 
favoritePotato would be a great password
 

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